new_gordian_knot

[gizmo27]

Hello,

Some years ago, I discovered Gordian Knot. It's a very usefull program. And I think it's the best for Divx encoding, because it's the most manual of all.
I just ask if Gordian Knot apps updates in the package wouldn't be possible :
=> AviSynth update, for example, in order to accept the latest filters for re-encoding
=> to allow GK to open video files formats like *.mpg, *.wmv, etc... for re-encoding (I know that AutoGK does it)
=> for the MKV container : the AAC overhead calculation (in the menu 'calculate frame overhead', onglet 'bitrate') is missing (it's present in MeGUI)
=> to update : DGIndex, and why not Virtualdubmod (based on the latest Virtualdub and Virtualdub-MPEG2)
=> to introduce in the package some filters like tivct, tdeint, blockbuster, TBilateral, DeGrainMedian, Masktools for re-encoding

Apart from that, nothing to change, it's a perfect freeware.
You can see my discusion in the subject "Nouveau Gordian Knot", in the emulefrance forum.

Thank you.
Friendly, Matt.

[HeadBangeR77]

Some years ago, I discovered Gordian Knot. It's a very usefull program. And I think it's the best for Divx encoding, because it's the most manual of all.
Hello. We might not agree on the codec's choice, but we perfectly agree on the reasons of using GK still. Since I don't do dozens of encodes a day, I really like to play a bit with all the settings, and don't consider it wasted time, because it's a hobby for me. ;)

I just ask if Gordian Knot apps updates in the package wouldn't be possible :
It isn't developed any more, I'm sure, unfortunately.

AviSynth update, for example, in order to accept the latest filters for re-encoding
Deinstall the old one, install 2.5.7 - I've been using GK with different AviSynth versions, including the latest stable official and haven't encountered any problems.

to allow GK to open video files formats like *.mpg, *.wmv, etc... for re-encoding (I know that AutoGK does it)
No development, no support.

for the MKV container : the AAC overhead calculation (in the menu 'calculate frame overhead', onglet 'bitrate') is missing (it's present in MeGUI)
You can always encode your audio separately, e.g. with Kurtnoise13's BeLight, and make sure you've got the latest libraries for LAME, Vorbis, AAC (eg. Winamp CT) or whatever you're using for your audio tracks recently. An overhead is so small I wouldn't bother anyway, and with XviD leaving it checked causes undersize.

to update : DGIndex
Currently using the latest 1.4.9 beta 14 - manual update always possible. Project files are not backwards compatible, so older d2v won't work (just a friendly warning). :)

and why not Virtualdubmod (based on the latest Virtualdub and Virtualdub-MPEG2)
VDubMod supports at least AVI & MKV containers, while the official latest VDub (1.7.1) doesn't (just 2.0 AVIs). It also doesn't support VBR MP3 audio, so VDubMod is a must from universality reasons, at least for final muxing. Btw. there was an update in February 2006 - look for the newer .exe file.

to introduce in the package some filters like tivct, tdeint, blockbuster, TBilateral, DeGrainMedian, Masktools for re-encoding
You can make any possible AVS script and feed it to GK instead of an automatically generated one. I've been doing it for a long time. Just paste and save. ;)

Hope I've helped a bit - good night.
HDBR77

[gizmo27]

I use Xvid for encoding.
If you don't plan to do something, could I have some help if I want to touch the source code in order to do the modifications ?
Is it Delphi, Pascal ? Is there developpers in the place ?

[Brother John]

Gordian Knot is written in Delphi/Object Pascal. Delphi 7 iirc, but I can't remember serious problems loading the project with Delphi 2005. You can grab the sources from Sourceforge's CVS at any time.

Len0x (http://forum.doom9.org/member.php?u=30815) is the former GK developer and sf project admin. So he'd be the one to get in touch with if you wanted to get seriously involved with GK.

[guada2]

new_gordian_knot

It would be great an update of GK + DGAVCindex, or another like Megui...etc..

[HeadBangeR77]

I use Xvid for encoding.
If you don't plan to do something, could I have some help if I want to touch the source code in order to do the modifications ?
Is it Delphi, Pascal ? Is there developpers in the place ?
Well, Brother John explained the things pretty well (ta, mate ;)). I'm no programmer, only did some basic Turbo Pascal in my secondary school with my old 486 DX-33 (these were good times :D).
I've just come on an idea it wouldn't be hard to update just the installer with the most recent version of AviSynth and DGIndex /DGDecode, and ask Doom9 if he could host it instead the 2-year old version.

[gizmo27]

Why not ! I gonna see what I can do.

[HeadBangeR77]

And BeSweet + its GUI could be substituted with BeSweet/BeLight, and the latest audio encoding libraries, as I wrote somewhere above. The mentioned updates could be good for starters, if you're planning to work on GK.

good luck!

[gizmo27]

Is DgIndex 1.4.8 *.d2v files compatible with GK ?

[HeadBangeR77]

Is DgIndex 1.4.8 *.d2v files compatible with GK ?
I've tested 1.4.8, 1.4.9 beta7 and 1.4.9 beta 14 (the most recent one) - all have worked flawlessly. Currently using the latest beta 14.
Btw. I can't see any reason why other version wouldn't work. GK is only a front-end, so it launches DGIndex, which work separately, and then uses its project file to create AVS script etc.

cheers,
HDBR77

[prOnorama]

GK is only a front-end, so it launches DGIndex, which work separately, and then uses its project file to create AVS script etc.

That's right you can update other apps which GK uses as well: like I upgraded to Lame 3.97 (put new lame_enc.dll in the BeSweet folder, overwriting the old one) :)

[Selur]

remember if you change the dgindex.exe, you also have to switch the dgdecode.dll ;)

[Brother John]

GK is only a front-end, so it launches DGIndex, which work separately
GK also uses dgdecode.dll directly to load and display D2V indexed video. So changes in dgdecode's interface might break GK. But that hasn't happened once so far, and I'd say updating DGMPGDec is perfectly safe.

remember if you change the dgindex.exe, you also have to switch the dgdecode.dll ;)
Apart from that, depending on what changed in DGMPGDec, older D2V files might not work with a newer version.

[gizmo27]

The new DGIndex beta version is not stable ?

[HeadBangeR77]

The new DGIndex beta version is not stable ?
It's the 14th beta of 1.4.9 already - I haven't found any bugs yet, though I don't encode much recently. It's been there for quite some time, and there aren't any new releases (probably because Neuron is busy with his new AVC Decoder atm). If you asked me, I consider it stable enough.

@ Brother John:
GK also uses dgdecode.dll directly to load and display D2V indexed video.
Did you mean the normal/initial preview window (it's rather obvious, but it won't harm to ask ;)), when the project is created, or the GK's main preview window (used by cropping, resizing, and before saving an AVS), or both perhaps?

[Brother John]

I'm talking about the normal preview window. The one with the "Save & encode" button. That's the only window with video display in GK that I know.

[somebodeez]

I would absolutely LOVE to see Gordian Knot revived! :)
Thank you so much for checking into it.

[ricardo.santos]

StaxRip seems like a good replacement! you can play with all the settings like in GK

[gizmo27]

I don't know this one. Can you configure Xvid parameters before encoding ?

[prOnorama]

StaxRip seems like a good replacement! you can play with all the settings like in GK

Yeah but it needs MS .NET framework to run, I don't like to use that

[gizmo27]

Is the GK 0.35.0_setup2 install file (nsi) avaible somewhere ?
I've found one at sourceforge.net, but it's the 0.28.5 version.

[HeadBangeR77]

Is the GK 0.35.0_setup2 install file (nsi) avaible somewhere ?
I've found one at sourceforge.net, but it's the 0.28.5 version.

Yeah, in many places in the web, among others ...

...here... (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Gordian_Knot_Rip_Pack.htm)

cheers,
HDBR77

[gizmo27]

Sorry for my explaination, but I'd like to know how to get the GK install *.nsi file : not the final setup, but the script file (the source) ready to compile (which gives, after compilation, the final setup file).
At sourceforge, they give only the 0.28.5 version. And I need the 0.35.0 one.

Ok, I've tried to encode using the d2v file created by DGIndex 1.4.8, and using avisynth 2.5.7.
When I open Virtualdubmod log, it appears :

=> Dub : I/O thread has not cycled for ten seconds -- possible livelock.
(Thread location: 7C91EB94)
=> Dub : Processing thread has not cycled for ten seconds -- possible livelock.
(Thread location: 7C91EB94)

Is it a problem ?

[gizmo27]

Ok.
I'm working with the old script.
I would just to know exactly which dll files are set in the directory C:\WINDOWS\System32 (I mean msvcr, etc...).

[gizmo27]

As for the install, I early finished.
I managed to create a new install file "Gk Setup3" with the following changes :

=> Avisynth update to 2.5.7
=> DGIndex update to 1.4.8
=> Add Belight in combinaison with Besweet
=> add filters : tdeint, tivtc, blockbuster, tbilateral, degrainmedian

Sure, It's not important changes, but I'd like to submit it to sourceforge, and maybe they would correct the errors.

Perhaps some files (dll, ax, etc...) are missing. For example, dll which go to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 directory, I don't know.

I've got Tortoise CVS but I don't know how does it work.
Can someone help me please ? Thanks.

[somebodeez]

I wish I could help you, Gizmo27 but since I have no knowledge of this sort of thing , I can't.

I just wanted to post this note of encouragement and appreciation to you for your time and efforts in updating this wonderful tool!

[gizmo27]

It's ok.
I found the email adress for the submission.

[HeadBangeR77]

I'm no programmer - I wish I was, so that I could help you. Just like somebodeez I would like to tell you that your work is much appreciated. :)

As to BeLight & BeSweet plz make sure all necessary dll's are included in the package in their up-to-date versions. Most of them come with the latest installer package of BeLight, but not all, AFAIR.

Good luck, mate!

[len0x]

@gizmo27

Is that you who is trying to take over GK project at sourceforge? If yes, then its just not cool. If you are just trying to rebuild package then its the wrong way to go especially because no-one seen what kind of installer you have built (any links?). Also I'd be worried if a person who is asking "The new DGIndex beta version is not stable ?" tries to rebuild an installer for thousands to download (nothing personal here).

P.S. I will check in the latest NSI file into CVS as soon as I have rebuilt my PC to help you guys play around with it.

[gizmo27]

Dear Lenox and dear Gordian Knot community,

It seems we have a little misunderstanding about the "take over" on GK. So I cancelled the APT process.
I'm really sorry about what's happened, especially about not to keep you aware of my intentions to update GK. I should have wait for your agreement before starting the APT process. I precipitated myself too much.
I didn't intend to takeover the project and be the new chief. I don't have any knowledge in programming, and less in digital video. I'm not a programmer, just an amateur.
I did this update only in the aim to keep GK alive, freeware I like a lot and to pay tribute to its developers.
I hope you'll understand.
Again I apologize and I'm very embarrassed.
The install script (*.nsi) and the beta install I've done will be soon at your disposal.

Regards,
Gizmo

[somebodeez]

I'm a little confused. :confused:

Isn't Gordian Knot open source?
If so, isn't anyone who is interested and has the ability allowed to work on it ?
And len0x said he would help...

I'm so very disappointed. I had such high hopes.

[gizmo27]

Ok. My request to cancel the APT process was rejected by Sourceforge.
I gonna try a second time and will tell you when I will have received an answer.

[len0x]

I have cancelled takeover from my side, so you don't have to worry about that anymore.

@somebodeez

Anybody is free to work on GK and request developer access if they want to modify stuff (and can prove they actually can do it). Its just gizmo27 submitted request to take control of the project as admin from me and theWEF which is obviously not the right thing to do especially if its just a matter of installer rebuilt.

[somebodeez]

Oh, I see, thank you.
There is so much I don't know about those things.
It's always interesting though!

[HeadBangeR77]

Hello, I haven't visited the forum for a week or two, so I've got a really huge amount of threads and posts to read (if I manage ;)). Hope the problem has been cleared already? If gizmo27 is granted an access as a developer, he will able to update the installer, at least I hope so.

The following changes:

=> Avisynth update to 2.5.7
=> DGIndex update to 1.4.8
=> Add Belight in combinaison with Besweet
=> add filters : tdeint, tivtc, blockbuster, tbilateral, degrainmedian

look very reasonable, and concern the the stuff that should be updated first. As already said, I'm not a programmer, I'm not some kind of guru, but I would update the DGIndex /DGDecode to the latest beta. If someone asked me ;), it's really stable enough in its current state.

Thanks very much for the input! :)
cheers,
HDBR77

[Kurtnoise]

why adding a GUI into a GUI ?

and about regarding Avisynth, DGindex, filters updates : all this stuff can be done directly by users themself.

[gizmo27]

@Kurtnoise13

Because it was said to me in the forum that Belight was good in audio encoding.
So I decided to add it : but it's a test and soon you'll have the file and the script and you 'll can test and say if Belight is justified in the GK package

And I must notify to you that the new beta version exe file, after the extract in the GK package, when you launch it, there's a bug : more than the half of the writings disappear : the icons stay but not the writings. For NSIS 2.16, I have choosen /SOLID lzma compression. Ever if I choose bzip2 one, the problem is always present. With the lastest stable version present in the package, the bug disappears.

[somebodeez]

and about regarding Avisynth, DGindex, filters updates : all this stuff can be done directly by users themself.

Oh! I didn't know that.

Will the new version also work better w/DivX 6?

[Kurtnoise]

Because it was said to me in the forum that Belight was good in audio encoding.
So I decided to add it : but it's a test and soon you'll have the file and the script and you 'll can test and say if Belight is justified in the GK package
I'm quite sure that include this in a GK package is useless...

In my opinion, audio encoding part in GK should be revisited. Maybe dropping BeSweet and using avs scripts with SoundOut() plugin could be great. At least, we can have more audio formats as input with it.

If I find some free time this summer, I could try to tweak GK... Shouldn't be too hard.


Will the new version also work better w/DivX 6?
Better of what ? DivX 6 works fine with GK...as usual.

[somebodeez]

Better of what ? DivX 6 works fine with GK...as usual.

I thought there was a small issue of bitrate input...

[gizmo27]

using avs scripts with SoundOut()
I must improve my knowledge in this domain.
I don't know this plugin. Is there any French doc about it ?

[buzzqw]

SoundOut http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=120025
no french doc... afaik

you can "taste" it by using automkv.

in automkv is used as main audio processor for lame (outputting mp3) and as piping for oggenc/neroenc/cct aac
But could be produce directly mp3/ogg/mp2/wav/flacc.. and with aften ac3

very useful plugin... just to tame!

BHH

[Kurtnoise]

I must improve my knowledge in this domain.
I don't know this plugin. Is there any French doc about it ?
No French doc as buzzqw said but you can find some examples here (http://www.unite-video.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?highlight=soundout&t=8260)with some french comments...:)

[Chints]

It would be graet, if woks finw with divx 6.
In between i do not find any reason why such a great tool has been discontinued?

[gizmo27]

Ok, the GK setup3 beta is avaible now !
Before I give you the url, I recommend you very strongly to take a look to the "Important.txt" file which will give to you some informations about the tests.
The url for the GK package test is the following : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EZT9C1OW
or here :http://gordianknot.free.fr/ => login : gordianknot ; password : srcfrg

For any problem, suggestion, idea or comment, notify it here.
Good tests everybody !

[somebodeez]

WooHoo! I'm going to give this a try. :D

[Kurtnoise]

For any problem, suggestion, idea or comment, notify it here.
Good tests everybody !
About "un grand merci.txt file" : mdr...

[somebodeez]

I just tried the new beta :)

My PC is Intel Core 2 Duo
2.66 GHz
2GB RAM
Running Windows XP, SP1

I used DivX 5.0.5 on a full length NTSC 16:9 movie, AC3 audio
Force Film

In the document named "Important" you wrote:
=> verify there's no bug between the new DGIndex 1.4.8 and the GK auto-crop

=> verify too the possible existence of bugs with Avisynth 2.5.7 during encoding : take a look at the Vdubmod Status Window tab "log"

=> test Belight

=> new Avisynth filters to test too : tdeint, tivtc, blockbuster, tbilateral, degrainmedian


The filters tdeint, tivtc, tbilateral and degrainmedian are in the plugin folder however, they did not show up in the "choose a filter" list.
Blockbuster did show up in the list and so I used that one.
I haven't tried "Belight" yet but it looks handy and I'm sure I will in the future.

Here is the AVS GK made:
# Created with Gordian Knot
#
# http://gknot.doom9.org

# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\decomb.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\KernelDeInt.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\dgbob.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\TomsMoComp.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\VSFilter.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\SimpleResize.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Blockbuster.dll")

# SOURCE
mpeg2source("G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.d2v", idct=7)

# TRIM
#trim(startframe,endframe)

# IVTC
#Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()
# or use
#IVTC(44,11,95)
#GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)

# DEINTERLACING (1)
#FieldDeinterlace()
#FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
#TomsMoComp(1,5,1)

# DEINTERLACING (2)
#KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true)
# or maybe
#DGBob(order=1,mode=1)

# DEINTERLACING (3) - special requests
#GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
#Telecide()
#SeparateFields()

# CROPPING
crop(6,58,708,360)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)

# RESIZING
LanczosResize(608,256)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
Blockbuster("sharpen",8,1,10,0,25)

# BORDERS
#AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)

# COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK
# !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!
#SelectRangeEvery(280,14)

# FOOL CCEnc
#ResampleAudio(44100)

Here is the GK log:
4/21/2007 7:40:58 PM: Job " 1 - Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avi" started.

o DivX5-First Pass: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avs
o DivX5 - Pass 2: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avs
o Mux Audio.
End of Job 1 ( 1 - Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avi).
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Gordian Knot
Encoding Job Data:

Type: EncD5_All
Container: Audio-Video Interleave (AVI)
Number: 1
Name: 1 - Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avi
Platform: WinXP (5.1.2600).2

Files:
VirtualDubModExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VirtualDubMod\VirtualDubMod.exe
NandubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\Nandub.exe
AviFinal: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avi
AviMovie: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition_Movie.avi
AviCredits: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition_Credits.avi
MovieFS: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avs
CreditsFS:
Log : G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.log
Stats: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.stats
Ecf : G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.ecf

Options:
Quality/DRF: 0
CreditsStart: 0
UseEcf: 1
CreditsIVTC: 0
CreditsAppend: 0
DeleteInterm.: 0
EnforceBitrate: 0
AntiShit: 0

Calculator:
VideoSize: 1014115 kbyte.
Audio1Size: 406978 kbyte.
Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
Overhead: 8410 kbyte.
AviSize: 1429504 kbyte (1396 mbyte).
FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
TotalSize: 1429504 kbyte (1396 mbyte).
Interleaving: ac3
Bitrate: 1116 k(=1000)Bits/s
Frames: 178428
FPS: 23.976
Duration: 24:2
Quality: 0.299 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck3: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck5: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
Resolution: 608 x 256

Audio 1:
Mode: Just Mux Source File.
SourceFile: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
WavFile: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.wav
Mp3File: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
OggFile: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ogg
OggQuality: 0.200
OggLanguage: English
Azid:
Lame:
Delay: 0
Interval: 1
Preload: 500
Mux: 1
Recalc: 1
DeleteWav: 1

Audio 2:
none.

7:40:58 PM: Audio 1, determined: 406978 kb
7:40:58 PM: Audio 1, calc: 406978 kb
7:40:58 PM: New Bitrate for Movie = 1116 k(=1000)Bits/s

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX5 First Pass"
// $input "G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avs"
// $output "G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("G:\\Jaws\\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("G:\\Jaws\\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

7:40:58 PM: Started DivX5-First Pass: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avs
8:08:48 PM: Finished DivX5-First Pass: Duration: 27 minutes, 49 seconds.
8:08:48 PM: Trying to open Log-file.
8:08:48 PM: Success: Log-file open.
8:08:48 PM: Encoded: 178428 Frames.
8:08:48 PM: Speed: 106.872 Frames per Second.

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX5 Second Pass"
// $input "G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avs"
// $output "G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("G:\\Jaws\\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("G:\\Jaws\\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

8:08:48 PM: Started DivX5 - Pass: 2: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avs
8:35:27 PM: Finished DivX5 - Pass: 2: Duration: 26 minutes, 38 seconds.
8:35:27 PM: Speed: 111.618 Frames per Second.

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX5 Append"
// $input "G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition_Movie.avi"
// $output "G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("G:\\Jaws\\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition_Movie.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("G:\\Jaws\\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3",0x00000203,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("G:\\Jaws\\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

8:35:27 PM: Started Muxing Audio.: G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition_Movie.avi
8:36:39 PM: Finished Muxing Audio.: Duration: 1 minute, 12 seconds.

8:36:39 PM: Done.
8:36:39 PM: Movie = G:\Jaws\Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avi
Total Encoding Time: 55 minutes, 40 seconds.
4/21/2007 8:36:39 PM: Job " 1 - Jaws-30th.Anniversary.Edition.avi" finished.

I had a small concern when I chose "NTSC" for the "Input Pixel Aspect Ratio" and I noticed it still said "PAL" but my file appears to have turned out ok. :)

I hope this helps!



_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

[somebodeez]

Just as a follow up (I'm doing another encode):

The Auto crop button is there when setting up my files but it disappears when I go back to that tab after the job starts.
I guess it's not really important though, since the job has already started and I won't need it until I start a new job.
Likewise for the NTSC/PAL "Input Pixel Aspect Ratio" -
I choose NTSC and it changes to PAL after the job has started.

[gizmo27]

I choose NTSC and it changes to PAL after the job has started.
The most important I think is when you take a look at the "yourtitle_GKnot.log", if the fps (25 or 29 = PAL or NTSC) is good. After if GK re-put PAL, not a problem.
And as for your question about the filters, at this time, I think you may include them manually in the AVS file.

[somebodeez]

I agree - I don't think it's a problem either but since I was testing, I tried to pay extra attention to everything so I could report back on what I found.

Thank you for letting me try it! :)

[b9AcE]

Just want to say that I am very happy to see GKnot get a revival.
I have always been keeping my components up to (stable) date locally but this is becoming a bigger and bigger update as time moves on and GKnot doesn't.
As of right now I use GKnot to get the cropping/resizing and "Bits/(Pixel*Frame)"-calculation (yes, I do find it useful for estimating bitrate usage).
Then I save an avs-file and integrate the values I got from GKnot into MeGUI so that I can encode using x264's CLI.
I just find the cropping/resizing in GKnot a lot more comfortable to use than any of the other tools'.

Would be neat to integrate AAC support into it all too.
Currentl I have to do audio encoding first in MeGUI so that I will be able to roughly calculate final filesize using "Size" in the audio-section.
Might sound unnecessary, but since the MeGUI-people didn't want to put "Bits/(Pixel*Frame)"-calculation in their tool, this was the choise left to me...

Since VDubMod's matroska-support is now so old it's even complaining about it itself, maybe it's time to switch the matroska muxer to mkvmerge (from MKVToolnix)?

Also, if someone would actually be doing a proper update of GKnot, maybe it's about time someone did an updated GKnot codec pack?
Not one of those mega-packs of course, just updating the codecs to current (stable) versions and possibly replacing ancient ones with the new generation...

[medp7060]

I am very glad to see that GK development is about to come back. it was a really useful tool. I used it a lot.

[hajj_3]

download links for this new beta are dead, please can someone post a mirror. thanks!

[gizmo27]

The Free url re-works now !

[somebodeez]

Gizmo - have you considered posting about your beta in other video forums?
That would give it a lot more exposure and more people a chance to try it.

Just a suggestion. :)

I would've posted about it myself at videohelp but I don't know if that would be proper or not...

Thank you again for all of your time and work on reviving this fantastic tool!!!!

[gizmo27]

WARNING = about the url http://gordianknot.free.fr
= possible not to access all the time because the server is in maintenance
Have a deep reflexion about that, day after day sure...

[max24]

=> added filters : tdeint, tivtc, blockbuster, tbilateral, degrainmedian

I can not find tdeint and degrainmedian in the attitudes!


http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8639/gk1zq9.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6232/gk2kn8.jpg

[max24]

o.k edit script with avsp and add filters :)

[gizmo27]

Yes I think you must add filter manually in the avs file.
But maybe there's another method...

[gizmo27]

Here (http://lion4free.free.fr) is avaible a GKmod version by Kurtnoise.
modified : the audio part, the use of x264 cli version and the AAC calculation in the "calculate frame overhead", tab "bitrate".
Good try

[Kurtnoise]

/!\ This is only for testing /!\. It's not finished yet and features might be changed. :rolleyes:

[max24]

Good work

The feature is missing unfortunately still can you it still insert?

Bitrate =>

Mode
Calculate Average Bitrate and Calculate Avi File Size

And that is opened the VirtualDubMod with the encoden, so which one can see with which FPS number is encodet. And the Progress encodings is as far.

Text is translated with Babel Fish

[gizmo27]

at sourceforge I've seen there was an app called virtualdubmod bugfix/cvs...
What is it exactly ? A more recent vdubmod version ? Can I replace in the package the old exe by the virtualdubmod bugfix/cvs new one without problem ?

[gizmo27]

I'm about to update the package with the GKMod and new apps always for testing.
I'm looking for people who would be able to translate GK (the new interface changes, not very long), in all the previous GK version languages (overall russian), except french and spanish. Thanks.
Some people, please ?

[somebodeez]

I'm looking for people who would be able to traduce GK

Oh boy - another new version! :D
I would be happy to help where I can.

Just let me know what "traduce" means and I'll let you know if I can do it ;)

[gizmo27]

sorry : traduce is the wrong word, translate is better;)

[somebodeez]

I wish I could help but I only know english.
Have you asked around at other forums too? This project would get more exposure that way...

[gizmo27]

Has anybody got some contact with the GK translators ?

[SphinXXL]

GKmod version by Kurtnoise

Audio 1, determined: 224218 kb
Audio 1, calc: 224218 kb
Started x264 - First Pass
EXCEPTION: List index out of bounds (3)
EXCEPTION: Encoder Thread Terminated.
Total Encoding Time: 0 seconds.
17.06.2007 18:09:41: Job " 1 - 1.avi" finished.

;-(

[gizmo27]

try with virtualdubmod bugfix/cvs (febuary 2006)

[SphinXXL]

try with virtualdubmod bugfix/cvs (febuary 2006)

No result :) Some mistakes in GK code... x.264 CLI don't need VD for encoding! :) I'm tried to rip with one AC3 track. I rip very much of cartoon :) and was configuring GK like usually. GK with vfw working - GKMod not working :devil:

I very like GK and using ONLY GK. So.... I'l be waiting GKMod!!!
:thanks:


HA-ha-ha... after using GKMod old GK NOT working!!!

22:50:15: Audio 1, determined: 224218 kb
22:50:15: Audio 1, calc: 224218 kb
22:50:15: New Bitrate for Movie = 2202 k(=1000)Bits/s
22:50:15: *************************************
22:50:15: EXCEPTION: Bad file format. Missing REGEDIT4 in first line.
22:50:15: EXCEPTION: Encoder Thread Terminated.
22:50:15: *************************************
Total Encoding Time: 0 seconds.
17.06.2007 22:50:15: Job " 1 - 1.avi" finished.

[SphinXXL]

avaible a GKmod version by Kurtnoise.
modified : the audio part, the use of x264 cli version and the AAC calculation in the "calculate frame overhead", tab "bitrate".
Good try

Is anybody testing this? It's a good idea GK+ x.264 CLI. :)

[gizmo27]

you can't create a *.avi file with the x264 CLI version.
(but it's possible to create one with the x264 vfw version)

[smok3]

i was always missing:
- disable any resizing &
- ouput PAR window (could be the same/similar as input i guess)
in gknot GUI.

[SphinXXL]

So.... Gizmo, do you have any news? :-)

[gizmo27]

any news ? mmm... It was a good day today. I went back home at nearly 20h. What else ?:)
you can find x264 vfw version on this site but it's not developed anymore.

[SphinXXL]

So... Gizmo... please explain how to use GK with x264 CLI. I use vfw.
But... when I’m trying to use GKmod I see the error mentioned above! What’s wrong. SOS!!! :-)

virtualdubmod updated ;-)

[gizmo27]

I've eard to say that it's possible to make an avi with x264 cli : downloading and using avctoavi.
after that, how does it works, I don't know : I use Xvid to make avi.
but I'm sure you'll find tutorial easily (probably on this site)
good tries and see you soon

[SphinXXL]

Gizmo27, you don't understand me. I know how to use GK. :-) One thing that I want... Did you encoded anything with x264 CLI using GKMod. I don't care the container - only one thing.... do you have at least one successful encoding attempt :-)

I'm asking you because you shared the GKMod ;-)
How to encode MPEG-2 to any container with x264 CLI using GKMod? How? I have the trouble ;-) I configure GKMod like GK and try to encode.... but see the error. Way to x264.exe is pointed..

[gizmo27]

sorry. I haven't tried the x264 cli yet. But I'll tell you if I've got some results. Have you tried with virtualdubmod bugfix/cvs (http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=65889&use_mirror=dfn&filename=VirtualDubMod_1_5_10_2_b2542.zip&25920176) ?
some news about your problem ?

[SphinXXL]

some news about your problem ?

No problem... using GK :)
Yesterday tested MeGUI - erased it again.... :devil:

[gizmo27]

Yesterday tested MeGUI - erased it again....
why ? I've eard a lot of good things on MeGui.
and be carreful : you are on the dadys's Megui site. they'll throw rocks to you;)
so you mean that with virtualdubmod bugfix/cvs no problem ? it's good to know...

[gizmo27]

Have you found the Einstein enigma ?

[gizmo27]

have a nice holidays (for those whose are in hollidays) !

[gizmo27]

I'd like to introduce new filters in avisynthplugins : to add mt_masktools and removegrain 1.0
Can I ?
And if possible I'd like to know if the new mt_masktools.dll filter has the same parmameter than the previous masktools.dll ? what are the new params ?
paramameters = binarize, combmask, dedgemask, etc... (you can see them in "filters" option in GK)
Thinking about the avs script, is it the same writing ?

[gizmo27]

I'd like to add some filters like masktools, limitedsharpen2, awarpsharp and asharp. I'd like to know which one are usefull in scripts.
some advices ?

[gizmo27]

test_GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.3b2 (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/)

[SphinXXL]

test_GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.3b2 (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/)

:)

I'm still using it...

[gizmo27]

ok. about mt_masktools : some missings in the xml file... fixing soon...

[kwanbis]

gizmo, do you speak spanish or french or both?

[gizmo27]

Why this question ? It's an English forum, so let's speak English. No ?

[kwanbis]

cause you requested help with translation in all but french/spanish.

[gizmo27]

ok sorry. I'didn't understand. About the French, I think I can.
The problem is overall for Russian, Chinese, Greek, Hebrew, etc... In fact, all the others languages excepted French (cause it's my native language)
I had the idea to go to other foreign forums in order to ask for some GKMod translations...
Do you know some people who would be interested by translating GkMod ?

[kwanbis]

what is needed to do? I can help with spanish. I'm also a borland delphi developer. Maybe i can help with that. I have used AutoGK a lot, but video is not my main area of expertise. I always like to use the most automated tools.

[gizmo27]

It would be great if you could bring some help :cool:
I think it would better if we wait a finished GKMod version be available.
But it's good to talk about now ;)

[kwanbis]

i havent followed AGK and GK that close, but i understand that AGK was discontinued? Or was it GK? GKMod is a continuation of GK right? So what are you doing is a continuation of AGK?

[buzzqw]

AGK is a closed source application, so no new development could be made by community, only Len0x can update autogk

BUT gordianKnot is freeware and opensource and so some volunterous guy is trying to update the software

BHH

[Jerry_Sm@rt]

ok sorry. I'didn't understand. About the French, I think I can.
The problem is overall for Russian, Chinese, Greek, Hebrew, etc... In fact, all the others languages excepted French (cause it's my native language)
I had the idea to go to other foreign forums in order to ask for some GKMod translations...
Do you know some people who would be interested by translating GkMod ?
I can do the Chinese translation,the old one was done by me.I doubt GKMod really works,audio encoding is ok,but the x264 encoding seems to be broken

[gizmo27]

ok. You can see this with Kurtnoise as he made the GKMod

[Redin]

Has anybody got some contact with the GK translators ?

Sorry. Only today i had contact with this. I am a GK Portuguese translator and translating now your GKMod.

Wait for a few days more.

Regards.

Redin

[gizmo27]

Ok, thank you a lot

[Redin]

Has anybody got some contact with the GK translators ?

Some kind of tabs it is not possible to modify the text for translation in especific section.

Tab Ripping:
All sections "Rip Vob's"
Prepare the Vobs
Subltitles

Program Paths:
All section and all 3 tabs.

For now i have 90% translated. Only this problem to make 100% done.

Regards.

Redin (Portuguese trasnlator)

[gizmo27]

I think you should ask the source code to Kurtnoise13;)
Regards

[onlym3]

Hi, would it be possible to change gk so it can run several instances at the same time? I got a quadcore and one xvid encode doesnt use more than 30% CPU power so i could easily run 3 encodes at the same time if i could run gk 3 times.

[Stormshadow]

Will there be a full stable rel at the end??? with updated versions of all the software in the pack just like the GordianKnot RipPack 0.35.0 Setup 2 exe, cause i can't get anything in the new version to work atm. (so i un-installed it again)

[gizmo27]

are you talking about the GKMod ?
a new version should be released. but I don't know when.
x264 cli seems not to work, isn't it ?

[len0x]

where is the source code for the mod?

[Redin]

I think you should ask the source code to Kurtnoise13

Greetings

Redin

[gizmo27]

Could adding avidemux in the package be usefull ?

[gizmo27]

Is there any freeware which is usefull to cut vob, I mean to extract one part without re-encoding ?
something with enought precision which permits you to jump at one frame or a time, something like virtualdub/vdubmod ?

[buzzqw]

avidemux could be used by command line to cut/encode...

BHH

[gizmo27]

I'd like to update Besweet. But there's a problem : in the most recent besweet there's not "azidts.exe" : is it very useful for a besweet good working ? where can I find an azidts.exe updated version ?

[buzzqw]

what about replacing besweet with wavi + soundout + nicaudio/bassaudio ?

less application and no need of .Net

BHH

[gizmo27]

It seems to be a good idea but in a first time I'd like to update besweet.
Is "azidts.exe" necessary ?

[buzzqw]

afaik only to process dts audio

you can look to autogk folder.. for dtsdec.exe

BHH

[gizmo27]

I'm not sure to understand : dtsdec.exe=azidts.exe ? That's it ?

[buzzqw]

dtsdec will produce wav file

BHH

[gizmo27]

is usefull to put it with besweet + besweetGUI ?
you can produce a wav file with besweetgui too, no ?

waiting an answer, this is test_GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.3b2.exe (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/test_GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.3b2.exe)
: here no modification excepted Besweet update (to 1.5b31) and Belight remove
have fun !

[avdw]

Do any of these tools work with latest Xvid ?

[gizmo27]

yes of course
no problem

[gizmo27]

I'm praying that the Father Christmas bring us a very very biautiful (GK 2008:rolleyes:) present !
Let's go guys ! Pray with me !

[gizmo27]

Do you use the soundout plugin (avisynth) for audio encoding ?

[buzzqw]

i use soundout for automkv (mp3/ac3/wav)
oggenc for ogg
nero/cct aac for aac audio

BHH

[gizmo27]

Do you think it would be usefull to include soundout into the Gordian Knot package ?

[buzzqw]

only if used...

but this will change the way gordian know will handle audio...

soundout is powerfull and stable, can be used (with nicaudio) to achieve fast conversion, and all sound fuction from avisynth are avaiable.

don't know... besweet is more "friendly" on stand-alone usage

BHH

[SimonM]

Is it also possible to post feature requests for the new gordian knot in this place?

If yes I had some Ideas.

[medp7060]

You may not know that the development of GK has stopped for a long time. Any feature requests will end up with nothing. Instaed, put your request to AutoGK, you may have achance get it if LenOx,the author is willing to.

[gizmo27]

@Lenox

Have you finally decided to continue the GK "developpement" ?
(I principaly think about the x264 cli support and the add of the AAC overhead calculation (tab "bitrate"))

[gizmo27]

Merry Christmas !

[gizmo27]

Happy new year 2008 !

[gizmo27]

@Jerry_Sm@rt & Redin

Have you managed to traduce all the GKMod, I mean the part which caused to you some matters ?

[Jerry_Sm@rt]

I can not get gkmod working , it seems to be buggy,

not able to encode with x264cli(still GKMod_20070510.zip，

no fix or update） .

I would like to translate GKMOD when it really works.

[gizmo27]

Hi

I'm searching for some voluntary good souls to continue the GKMod project.

It would be cool for this one to see the daylight. I think overall to the x264 cli support ;)

You can find The GKMod source code here ==thanks Kurtnoise13:)==:

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/index.php?dir=misc/&file=GKMod_src.zip (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/index.php?dir=misc/&file=GKMod_src.zip)

Thanks a lot in advance.

[gizmo27]

Persons who have tested GKMod, can you report the bugs here please ?

For example, when you say that GKMod doesn't work with x264 cli, can you report with precision what happens exactly ?

Thanks a lot in advance.

PS : These are some firsts bugs reports :
GKmod version by Kurtnoise

Audio 1, determined: 224218 kb
Audio 1, calc: 224218 kb
Started x264 - First Pass
EXCEPTION: List index out of bounds (3)
EXCEPTION: Encoder Thread Terminated.
Total Encoding Time: 0 seconds.
17.06.2007 18:09:41: Job " 1 - 1.avi" finished.

;-(
No result :) Some mistakes in GK code... x.264 CLI don't need VD for encoding! :) I'm tried to rip with one AC3 track. I rip very much of cartoon :) and was configuring GK like usually. GK with vfw working - GKMod not working :devil:

I very like GK and using ONLY GK. So.... I'l be waiting GKMod!!!
:thanks:


HA-ha-ha... after using GKMod old GK NOT working!!!

22:50:15: Audio 1, determined: 224218 kb
22:50:15: Audio 1, calc: 224218 kb
22:50:15: New Bitrate for Movie = 2202 k(=1000)Bits/s
22:50:15: *************************************
22:50:15: EXCEPTION: Bad file format. Missing REGEDIT4 in first line.
22:50:15: EXCEPTION: Encoder Thread Terminated.
22:50:15: *************************************
Total Encoding Time: 0 seconds.
17.06.2007 22:50:15: Job " 1 - 1.avi" finished.
Is there anothers ?
If yes, please report them here

Thanks.

[gizmo27]

I've tried GK with x264 vfw and if I stop the first pass before the end, this error message appears :
http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/x264vfw_error.gif

When I try x264 cli with GKMod, the "encoding process" is 1 second longer and it doesn't give any mkv :confused:
Using GKMod, this is the log :
05/03/2008 18:15:30: Job " 1 - VTS_02_1_1.mkv" started.

o x264 - First Pass VTS_02_1.avs
o x264 - Second Pass VTS_02_1.avs
x Mixer Audio (désactivé).
Fin du job 1 ( 1 - VTS_02_1_1.mkv).
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Gordian Knot
Encoding Job Data:

Type: EncX264_All
Container: Matroska File (MKV)
Number: 1
Name: 1 - VTS_02_1_1.mkv
Platform: Windows XP

Files:
VirtualDubModExe:
NandubExe:
AviFinal: F:\NIAGARA_MASTER_SERIES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1_1.mkv
AviMovie: F:\NIAGARA_MASTER_SERIES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1_1_Movie.mkv
AviCredits: F:\NIAGARA_MASTER_SERIES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1_1_Credits.mkv
MovieFS: F:\NIAGARA_MASTER_SERIES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.avs
CreditsFS:
Log : F:\NIAGARA_MASTER_SERIES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1_1.log
Stats: F:\NIAGARA_MASTER_SERIES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1_1.stats

Options:
Quality/DRF: 0
CreditsStart: 0
UseEcf: 1
CreditsIVTC: 0
CreditsAppend: 0
DeleteInterm.: 0
EnforceBitrate: 0
AntiShit: 0

Calculator:
VideoSize: 30344 kbyte.
Audio1Size: 0 kbyte.
Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
Overhead: 376 kbyte.
AviSize: 30720 kbyte (30 mbyte).
FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
TotalSize: 30720 kbyte (30 mbyte).
Interleaving:
Bitrate: 1030 k(=1000)Bits/s
Frames: 6030
FPS: 25.000
Duration: 04:1
Quality: 0.298 bits/(pixel*image).
CompCheck3: 0.000 bits/(pixel*image).
CompCheck5: 0.000 bits/(pixel*image).
Resolution: 432 x 320

Audio:
none.


Started x264 - First Pass
EXCEPTION: List index out of bounds (3)
EXCEPTION: Encoder Thread Terminated.
Total Encoding Time: 0 Secondes.
05/03/2008 18:15:30: Job " 1 - VTS_02_1_1.mkv" finished.

[gizmo27]

a question too : when a topic goes over the 2nd page, does it disappears, does it die ?

[somebodeez]

Hello All,
I was wondering if there will be any more modifications?

[gizmo27]

Yes I hope.

The fact that a GKMod has been released means that it means

Please, can some body call David Coperfield ?

[gizmo27]

This is a new GKMod (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod18072008.zip)
version working with x264 cli avaible for testing

Good luck everybody !

Regards,
Gizmo.

[gizmo27]

Have you got any difficulties with GKMod ?

[somebodeez]

Thank you!

Is there a change log?
I don't use x264. Maybe some day when stand alone players become compatible with it...

[gizmo27]

@Somebodeez

Ever if you don't use x264, can you test x264 please ?
I'd like to know what's wrong

Thanks a lot in advance.

[somebodeez]

I have an appointment to go to today but when I get back, I'll try that.
It's nice to know that when (if?) set top players catch up, GKMod will be ready.:)

[somebodeez]

There are some problems with this mod's GUI:

*.d2v *.avi button is blank

In the Resolution tab, "Input Pixel Aspect Ratio" is blank.
(normally see 16:9 or 4:3 option)

In the Bitrate tab, for Audio 1 and 2, AC3 is not available as an option.

Trying to encode x264 - I really don't know anything about using this codec and I wasn't sure what to pick as far as a container goes so I picked mp4 just to see what would happen.

Couldn't preview at the "Save AVS" screen.
Error message said "Ran out of memory". (I have 2 GBs RAM)

Nothing happened as far as I could see when the job was to start encoding.

Log:

7/30/2008 6:07:47 PM: Job " 1 - Test_1.mp4" started.

Test T03 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
o x264 - First Pass Test.avs
o x264 - Second Pass Test.avs


_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Gordian Knot
Encoding Job Data:

Type: EncX264_All
Container: MPEG-4 File (MP4)
Number: 1
Name: 1 - Test_1.mp4
Platform: Windows XP (5.1.2600).2

Files:
VirtualDubModExe:
NandubExe:
AviFinal: G:\TEST\Test_1.mp4
AviMovie: G:\TEST\Test_1_Movie.mp4
AviCredits: G:\TEST\Test_1_Credits.mp4
MovieFS: G:\TEST\Test.avs
CreditsFS:
Log : G:\TEST\Test_1.log
Stats: G:\TEST\Test_1.stats

Options:
Quality/DRF: 0
CreditsStart: 0
UseEcf: 1
CreditsIVTC: 1
CreditsAppend: 0
DeleteInterm.: 0
EnforceBitrate: 0
AntiShit: 0

Calculator:
VideoSize: 81131 kbyte.
Audio1Size: 6625 kbyte.
Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
Overhead: 307 kbyte.
AviSize: 88064 kbyte (86 mbyte).
FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
TotalSize: 88064 kbyte (86 mbyte).
Interleaving:
Bitrate: 1566 k(=1000)Bits/s
Frames: 12720
FPS: 29.970
Duration: 07:4
Quality: 0.192

Here is what GSpot says about the mp4 file:
File is empty. Its length is zero bytes.
It is blank, barren and bare - vacant, vacuous, and void.
It is a degenerate case.

[gizmo27]

ok I've forgotten to tell you that I'd like you to tests mkv container

and about the x264 cli : it works until the r649 one : over nothing happens... bizarre...

Sure it doesn't work at 200% but I really would like the developpers to correct the bug : just a last time.

I don't have enought knowledge in delphi but I'd like to see a new GK a last time : after I won't say nothing

I'm asking to you GK's fathers : please do something : GKMod can't be let at this status.

I you want the source code, ask it : I'll give to you

Thanks to have the patience to read my post.

[gizmo27]

GKMod will be ready.:) Don't loose any hope

[talen9]

and about the x264 cli : it works until the r649 one : over nothing happens... bizarre...


It's not bizarre: starting from r655 (May 2, 2007), x264 CLI behaviour changed: you have to specify a ratecontrol method (e.g. with "--bitrate XXXX" or "--crf XX.YY", see docs), it doesn't default to "--qp 26" anymore.

[somebodeez]

I'm asking to you GK's fathers : please do something : GKMod can't be let at this status.


Yes, please!
I've looked into other encoding methods but I find myself always returning to GK because IMHO, none other can compare with it.

[gizmo27]

For the last x264 cli version, is this command line is correct ?
--progress --thread-input -B 1378 -p 1 --stats "statsfile.pass" -A "p8x8,b8x8" -b 2 --direct auto --subme 5 --me "hex"

[talen9]

Well, it's missing both output (via "-o" option) and input file, but the rate control method is correctly specified, if that's what you were asking for :)

If, as in this case, you're doing the first pass, you can use the word NUL as the output file.


It's easier if you download a recent build (via x264.nl) and try it yourself, though (and have a look at the internal help. using "x264 --long-help") :)

[gizmo27]

yes but the recent x264 doesn't want to encode

is the syntax correct ?

[talen9]

Yes, I tried it just now and it works:

c:\Program Files\megui\tools\x264\x264.exe --progress --thread-input -B 1378
-p 1 --stats "statsfile.pass" -A "p8x8,b8x8" -b 2 --direct auto --subme 5
--me "hex" -o NUL 1.avs

avis [info]: 656x352 @ 25.00 fps (138175 frames)
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64
x264 [info]: slice I:2 Avg QP:15.20 size: 10426 PSNR Mean Y:73.60 U:73.24
V:73.33 Avg:73.49 Global:49.99
x264 [info]: slice P:119 Avg QP:17.55 size: 11635 PSNR Mean Y:50.39 U:50.07
V:49.96 Avg:50.25 Global:45.74
x264 [info]: slice B:186 Avg QP:19.65 size: 4221 PSNR Mean Y:50.05 U:49.85
V:49.82 Avg:49.96 Global:44.84
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 61.1% 0.0% 38.9%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 15.0% 0.0% 0.0% P16..4: 28.6% 32.5% 12.6% 0.0% 0
.0% skip:11.2%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 3.3% 0.0% 0.0% B16..8: 41.8% 4.8% 5.7% direct:
16.7% skip:27.7%
x264 [info]: final ratefactor: 16.05
x264 [info]: direct mvs spatial:88.2% temporal:11.8%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9890234
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:50.336 U:50.090 V:50.028 Avg:50.226 Global:45.187 kb/s:
1427.09

aborted at input frame 307
encoded 307 frames, 37.57 fps, 1427.55 kb/s



As you see, I had (obviously) to add the name of the output file ("NUL", as this is for the first pass) and the name of the input file ("1.avs").

[gizmo27]

Can you give me your complete avs script please ?

[talen9]

It won't do you any good, it's nothing more than a mpeg2source("file.d2v") to load a DVD source followed by a resizer .... mind that x264 expects an input file in YV12 format.

If you're not sure about the avs file you're generating and/or working on, just load it into VirtualDub and check if it works as you expect ... if you instead have any problems with x264, go to the MPEG4/AVC forum (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=77) ;)

[gizmo27]

No it's not that.

I mean what are your plugin lines ?

Ex : loadplugin(...................
loadplugin(...................

I don't know but maybe it's missing some plugins for x264 to work

[talen9]

I don't know but maybe it's missing some plugins for x264 to work

Erm ... definitely not, AviSynth processing is completely separated from x264.

x264 only wants in input a YV12 stream; AviSynth processing is only the preferred way to create said stream.


I repeat myself (again): try loading the same .avs file (which you're passing to x264) into VirtualDub / VDubMod ... if it loads correctly, then there are only two possibilities:
1) the resulting clip is not in YV12
2) your final x264 command line (which *should* be the one you posted before, plus the "-o" option and the input avs file) is not correct.

[gizmo27]

Ok thanks a lot.

I'm happy to tell you that GKMod now works with the last x264 cli version (patched or not) !

You can download it here (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod18082008.zip)

And this is the source code (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod18082008_src.zip)

I hope this time that somebody will be interested by this...

[gizmo27]

I've tried but I don't manage to make GKMod working with x264 cli in single pass mode. I need some help, please.

It show this message in the log : EXCEPTION: Zugriffsverletzung bei Adresse 00404A11 in Modul 'GordianKnot.exe'. Lesen von Adresse 656C691E

In multipass mode, evrything is ok.

This is my new updated source :
GKMod23082008_src.zip (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod23082008_src.zip)

I know GK isn't you first priority but if you can take a look... Thanks.

[Stormshadow]

Mannn i'm looking forward to a full stable version... trying to get it to work with finding all the programs myself isn't goin to well.. hehe. to much a n00b at this.

[gizmo27]

Hi

I managed to make GKMod working fully with x264 cli :

The exe : GKMod31082008.zip (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod31082008.zip)

The source code :
GKMod31082008_src.zip (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod31082008_src.zip)

[Stormshadow]

Isn't there gonna be a full install file like the "GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.2"???

for some reason i've never been able to get it to work with just the files you post.

[gizmo27]

Yes it can have a full package but I prefer that GKMod to be "more finished".

GKmod works : download the setup3b2 and replace the file "gordianknot.exe" by the new one (GKMod).
For the missing apps go to the GKMod Program path tablet and download the prog : you need overall mkvmerge (mkvtoolnix) (http://www.commentcamarche.net/telecharger/telecharger-34055072-mkvtoolnix-mkvmerge) and mp4box (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/mp4box)

Sure there's not all the apps yet but be patient and hopefull.

And thanks for you interest about GK :)

[Stormshadow]

Oki.. well i don't mind the wait as long as there it gonna be a final install file...

Reason why i want it is because with the old install file i have alot of dvd's that GK makes in all kinda weird sizes but under and oversized so i'm thinking that some of the old software isn't working proberly in vista. try'd installing your file and downloaded updated versions of all the software but it won't even start ripping anything else then the audio no matter what i do.

[Stormshadow]

I finally got it encoding but now i get a different error... it encodes both audio and movie as it should but when it goes to join audio to movie it stop and gives me the following error:

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7755/gkjp7.th.jpg (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gkjp7.jpg)

the only things i've changed is copy/past the new GK into the old gk folder and updated DGindex...

[gizmo27]

Try to use virtualdubmod instead of the last virtual dub.

And try to only replace GK by GKMod. No need to update the apps...

Can you try please with mkv and mp4 container ?

I thank you in advance.

[Stormshadow]

that IS with the existin virtualdubmod... Like i said only thing i changed was the gk itself and dgindex (witch shouldn't effect the encoding).. yeah i'll look into mkw once i get xvid encoding to work witch is what i'm mainly gonna use....

[gizmo27]

The problem you have appears when you encode with xvid ?

[Stormshadow]

The problem was with mp3... When i try ac3 it won't even start encoding..

EDIT:

Not gettin MLW to encode either...

[gizmo27]

Ok, GKMod can now mux mkv/mp4 audio-video using MKVMerge and MP4box.

The exe : GKMod17092008.zip (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod17092008.zip)

The source code : GKMod17092008_src.zip (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod17092008_src.zip)

and here's the changelog :Test GKMod_17092008 :
Changes since the last 31082008 version :

=> muxing audio-video with MKVMerge and MP4Box in multipass mode is OK

===========================================================================================================================

Test GKMod_31082008 :

=> GKMod can now encode video with the last x264 cli

===========================================================================================================================

At this time there yet a little matter to fix : the fact that Virtualdubmod doesn't mux anymore when encoding with Xvid.

I don't know from where it comes from.

[Stormshadow]

Is there a chance that you could make virtualdubmod visable in the bottom line again when encoding... kinda like that you always know how far along it is by just looking at that.

[gizmo27]

I think the most important is to fix the muxing audio-video bug ;):)

[Stormshadow]

Of course it is... ment at the end (when theres no more problems and you have the time :)

[Barough]

Wonder how i could have missed this one. A modded GK :cool:

Been 'ages' since i played around with GK.

Hope that A/V Mux issue will be solved soon. Any plans on adding support for using decrypted DVD files from the harddrive.

Also hope to see a Full installer when it's possible.

Putting together a GKMod folder with all necessary files manually after getting the 'needed' GK files/folders from a m8 ;)

[turbojet]

nice to see my favorite encoding GUI being worked on again.

I did find some bugs however:
- Resolution page, Width and Height seem stuck at 1920x1080
- Some OK\cancel popups have cancel in french(?) example: options > update .ini
- Haali media splitter process keeps running after video is closed, only when you exit gknot does it end
-x264 compressibility check throws a non english error about some b_max
- cant access x264 codec settings under compressibility check
- x264 first pass always match second pass and vice versa
- avisource doesn't work for m2ts inputted avs's, directshowsource works
- Im getting EXCEPTION: bad file format. missing REGEDIT4 in first line when it tries to open x264 on each pass, it aborts.

Also some suggestions I have:
- Add tivtc to save avs windows, using tfm's d2v option if input is d2v
- Add tdeint to save avs windows
- Add lancos4resize, spline36resize to save avs windows
- Setting for default resizer in options
- Add 720p and 1080p native resolutions to save avs windows, like SVCD and VCD using addborders
- Replace undot with RemoveGrain(mode=1) and an option to turn this on\off in options page, can remove un
- Allow opening m2ts, ts, 264, vc1 extension files, directshow filters should support it, if not give an error message saying you need haali's splitter and ffdshow
- Add common BD\HDDVD bitrates to bitrate page: 640 AC3, 736 kbps DTS, 1509 kbps DTS
- Some sort of update system, whether thats path\structure of the latest in the rar, an installer, or an integrated update system. Currently tivtc, tdeint, lame_enc, dgmpgdec, plus probably some other avisynth plugins could use updates.
- Add eac3to support and files for encoding AC3 and DTS
- Integrate TSMuxer for BD output, adding overhead for this as well
- Don't resize if output is the same resolution as input
- Don't crop if its disabled in resolution page
- avs comments on\off setting in options
- allow more bitrate in the slider of x264, maybe max 20 MB\s
- extra command line option in x264 configure
- --threads auto ability and set as default in x264
- process priority setting for x264

I'll continue testing and trying to find bugfixes or think of more suggestions. Thanks for the work so far to those who contributed.

[Stormshadow]

Why didn't i think of that...

Yes most defently would be nice with blu-ray/HD-DVD support.

[gizmo27]

@ The GK developpers

I've early finished what you began.

As you can see : the interest in GK is always "on"

If nobody is interested I say "ok" and I go home but there...

Don't you think ?

I've an idea : why don't put an AutoGK link in the GK interface, for the beginners ?

It's just an idea

[the_provider]

@ The GK developpers

...
As you can see : the interest in GK is always "on"
...

Yeap, IT IS ON! :thanks:
I tried several encoders but for DVD ripping I always use GK so I can only be pleasantly surprised to see that somebody is still keeping it updated.

Keep up the good work.
Best regards.

[medp7060]

here are my two cents. While there is no "active" development on GK, MeGUI could be a choice. It is nearly as good as the old GK, even beter. I myself used to use GK, now I use MeGUI instead.

[Barough]

Would be really nice to see the Development of GK getting active.

The interest of GK is for sure 'On' :)

[prOnorama]

here are my two cents. While there is no "active" development on GK, MeGUI could be a choice. It is nearly as good as the old GK, even beter. I myself used to use GK, now I use MeGUI instead.

Yes I agree , MeGui is a good alternative.

The only things I miss from GK are the "Resolution" settings, especially the slider and the fact AR errors are listed. Also Megui has no compressibility test, I miss that as well. Furthermore the bitrate calculator could be a bit better IMO.

On the other hand the auto-update feature in Megui is really nice and it has newer filters (the feature to detect the source is handy as well)

GK is a good program but it hasn't been actively supported since ages. I think it's time to move on.

[gizmo27]

As for me I don't think so ;) :)

GK is not over yet

I nearly finished what Kurtnoise began : just this muxing problem : the matter is I don't find the bug and I don't find nobody to fix that

Ever if it's not totally finished, I'd like to make a new package including GKMod and components like MKVMerge just for testing and to tell it to downloading sites to put it online : but I won't forget to tell them it's just for testing and nothing official for the moment.

Can I do that ? No problem ?

[Stormshadow]

I try'd MeGui yesterday and i'm MOST DEFENTLY wanting a new GK... MeGui is no way near as good so u just keep up the good work gizmo27. :)

[somebodeez]

I haven't been able to find anything that can compare with GK!

[gizmo27]

Yes guys yes guys ! Keep on keep on ! It's good it's good !

There's an echo today day day... I don't know why know why know why...

[Laffer]

Although I do not like it (for many reasons) I have just started using MeGUI. As soon as GK can encode in x264 reliably - I will switch back to it.

Please keep up the great work.

Laffer.

[sjakke]

I miss good old GK. The best program imho, but outdated...sadly. Hope it gets revived. I don't know any comp. language, so I can't help out, sorry. Good luck gizmo27, love what you are trying to accomplish:)

[gizmo27]

@worfdata : :):):)

You're welcome.

In case of ;) :

The exe : GKMod17092008.zip (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod17092008.zip)

The source code : GKMod17092008_src.zip (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod17092008_src.zip)

[oMikR0n]

Am getting the same error! Please fix it. It looks so good. Keep up the good work mate :D

[worfdata]

I have spend a few hours to compile and debug gizmo27s version of gknot.

A few hours to install all needed units in the right version which I need to compile, and one hour to look at the bug. I think/hope I have found the reason for the bug. But it is gizmo27s job to verify and remove the bug.

Further information in my thread :
My compiled GKnot for DIVX6 inside (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1215947#post1215947)

Hope this will help!

Worf

[gizmo27]

It's too cool that you give me a solution to resolve the matter

I'll try it as soon as possible :):):):):):)

[gizmo27]

GKMod is now compatible with Divx 6 and the mux audio-video problem is solved !!!!

I'm happy to tell you that a new packaged beta version of GKMod is out : the GKMod.RipPack.0.35.1_beta2 !!!!

Here they are :

=> GKMod.RipPack.0.35.1_beta2.Setup.exe (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod.RipPack.0.35.1_beta2.Setup.exe)

=> and the GKMod source code : GKMod0.35.1b2_01122008_src.zip (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod0.35.1b2_01122008_src.zip)

Changelog :

GKMod.RipPack.0.35.1_beta2 :
Changes since the last 17092008 version :

About GKmod :

=> GKMod is now Divx 6 compatible
=> mux audio-video is solved

About the full package :

=> freewares added : mkvtoolnix, MP4Box and SubRip

===========================================================================================================================

Test GKMod_17092008 :
Changes since the last 31082008 version :

=> muxing audio-video with MKVMerge and MP4Box in multipass mode is OK

===========================================================================================================================

Test GKMod_31082008 :

=> GKMod can now encode video with the last x264 cli

===========================================================================================================================

test_GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.3b2

WARNING : this is a Gordian Knot package beta install for testing !

Changelog from the 0.35.0_setup3b1 version :

=> replaced DGIndex v 1.4.8 by the 1.4.9 one
=> replaced Virtualdubmod 1.5.10.2 buid 2540 by Virtualdubmod bugfix/cvs 1.5.10.2 build 2542
=> avisynthplugins : replaced removegrain v0.9 by v1.0, added : asharp, awarpsharp, autocrop, masktools, mt_masktools
(included the xml file)
=> updated Besweet to 1.5b31 version

===========================================================================================================================

Changelog from the 0.35.0_setup2 version :

=> Avisynth updated to v2.5.7
=> DGIndex updated to v1.4.8
=> Added Belight in combinaison with Besweet
=> added filters : tdeint, tivtc, blockbuster, tbilateral, degrainmedian
=> Xvid defaults settings present now

Thanks a lot worfdata for your help and your contribution for GKMod !!!! I've added your code into the GKMod one. Truely I don't know how to thank you. I'm so glad

You can take a look at my "Big Thank You" file :Un_grand_merci.txt (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/Un_grand_merci.txt)

Thanks a lot again and take pleasure with the new GK !!!!

PS : I'd like to make the new GK more well-know and I'd like to ask to you if it's possible to put GKMod in the main doom9 download location ? Writin it's for testing ? If it's possible, it could be great.

And maybe to put the new beta version and the GKMod source code on Sourceforge.net ?

Thanks a lot again.

[somebodeez]

This is very exciting :D

I just tried to use GKMod.RipPack.0.35.1_beta2 with DivX 6.8.5.11.

I keep getting this error message:

"Avisynth open failure:
Script Error: There is no function named "mpeg2source" and the job fails to start.

[den78]

This is very exciting :D

I just tried to use GKMod.RipPack.0.35.1_beta2 with DivX 6.8.5.11.

I keep getting this error message:

"Avisynth open failure:
Script Error: There is no function named "mpeg2source" and the job fails to start.

i haven't tried this version yet, but try to disable "advance saveavs window"
& 10x gizmo27 4 the new version :)

[somebodeez]

i haven't tried this version yet, but try to disable "advance saveavs window"
& 10x gizmo27 4 the new version :)

Thanks but if I do that, how can I load up my custom filter ini file?

[len0x]

gizmo, can you sum up what are all the changes and provide a proper diff files from the latest official sources please? I might be able to review them and commit if necesarry...

[den78]

Thanks but if I do that, how can I load up my custom filter ini file?
don't know dude, i use gk defaults...never bothered with the custom stuff.
btw, is the described error fixed?

[somebodeez]

don't know dude, i use gk defaults...never bothered with the custom stuff.
btw, is the described error fixed?

I'm a "dudette" ;)

I haven't tried your suggestion since it wouldn't do me much good if I couldn't use the custom stuff. ( For me, this is a big part of what makes GK so wonderful!!)

gizmo, can you sum up what are all the changes and provide a proper diff files from the latest official sources please? I might be able to review them and commit if necesarry...

I know the words "might" and "if necessary" doesn't mean "definitely" ;) but that would be soooo cool if you could! :D

[den78]

I'm a "dudette" ;)
my bad :D

[gizmo27]

@Lenox

Yes of course.

Do you want a source code like that : I add the line "gizmo27 add begin"..."gizmo27 add end" for example ?

It's nice for you to take a look to what we've done :)
Thanks a lot.

Thanks but if I do that, how can I load up my custom filter ini file?
Put "DGDecode.dll" in the directory "plugins" of your Avisynth program and your problem will probably disappear ;)

[len0x]

Do you want a source code like that : I add the line "gizmo27 add begin"..."gizmo27 add end" for example ?


I was more hoping for a proper *.diff file. When you checked out sources from CVS (I assume you did that) and modified them locally you will probably have an option in your CVS client to generate the diff from current CVS files.

Having said that - did you modify anything significant in the GUI (like graphics etc)? Because if yes then binary files might have been modified and then diff would be more problematic.

[gizmo27]

I was more hoping for a proper *.diff file. When you checked out sources from CVS (I assume you did that) and modified them locally you will probably have an option in your CVS client to generate the diff from current CVS files.
Not really : I used the GKMod source files provided by Kurtnoise.
I haven't used any CVS for that. I don't know how does it works.

Kurtnoise began to add some code in the source and after I continue

But I never used CVS

I don't know how to make a diff file but I'll search how to

[somebodeez]

Put "DGDecode.dll" in the directory "plugins" of your Avisynth program and your problem will probably disappear ;)

Ok I did that and now I get a new error and the job will not start.

The error now says:

"Avisynth Open Failure:
MPEG2Source: Couldn't open source file or obsolete D2V file."

Edit
My mistake! I copied over the old DGDecode.dll file from my plugins back up folder, not the one from the current installation.
Once I copied the current DGDecode.dll file, I didn't get the error.

I clicked for it to start the job (BTW, the confirmation for starting the job says something like "Ja" and "Nein" - not a big deal for me but thought I'd mention it since this is the English version)
. The Encoder panel says the first pass has started however, VDubMod didn't pop up like it always use to.
I have no idea if it's really working or not since I can't see that. If this is a new feature, I'd really prefer to be able to see VDubMod while it's working. I always like to see what FPS I'm getting ;).
Is there an option for this?

One other little thing - I'd prefer to have the old way of choosing audio options. It's much easier for me and more precise to be able to type in the audio bitrate that I want, rather than the slider.

Thank you so much for letting me try this! :D

[gizmo27]

I have made this diff file (not a proper one as you said) with my changes and the worfdata ones
I know Kurtnoise had created the "Ux264Form.pas" for the x264 cli but after I don't know completly what he add or modified : I can forgot some things so I don't want to tell.
Maybe if you ask him...

I don't know if it can help you but :

GKMod_0.35.1_b2_src.diff.zip (http://gordianknot.free.fr/gordian_knot_tests/GKMod_0.35.1_b2_src.diff.zip)

And this my info_gizmo27.txt :
For all my modifications (mod) and add : I've writed "// gizmo27 add" or "// gizmo27 add begin (...) // gizmo27 add end"
or "gizmo27 mod"

File Ux264Form.pas :

=> What Kurtnoise did is to make a *.setting file containing the command line for x264 (variable string named x264CLIenc)
The matter was GK didn't want to start because the file didn't start with the line "REGEDIT4, etc..."
To make GK encode I've created procedures that go into the file and rewrite the contain with the old structure

So when you click on the button btaddx264 (procedure btaddx264clic, procedure EncodeX264), it runs my procedures and rewrite
the contain/inside of the file : I know what you'll say it's not professionnal at all : but I'm not a programmer and I try to
find by myself what was the matter On this side, sure, the code can be improved ;)

But I did that cause I wanted to see GK again ever if I'm not a professionnal developper

=> I stock the value of X264CLIEnc into a variable (cmdencfirstpass, cmdencsecondpass) for the multipass : firstpass and
second

File Encode.pas :

=> I call the procedures which rewrite the *.settings file : I call them in the procedure "EncodeX264"

File EncoderThreads.pas :

=> following the case of encoding type (mkv, mp4, single or multipass) : I've created procedure which open MS-DOS command line
and give the command line into and encode

File VNandubJobFile.pas :

=> To fix the bug with muxing audio-video with vdubmod I modified in the procedure TJobScript.AddAudioVMod this line :
"List.Add(VModStream + 'SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,' + IntToStr(EncAData.delay) + ');');" (put "1,500,1,0,........." by default
... (I'don't know if it's a good way but it works)

Regards,
Gizmo.

I hope I'll can make and provide a true diff file soon

[somebodeez]

Encoder log says it started 2nd pass now so I guess it's working :D (I'm doing a full length movie)
Still no sign of VDubMod.

[somebodeez]

Full length movie using DivX 6.8.5.11, AC3 audio
Windows XP, SP2

Final results:
File size is correct and the audio is in sync :)

Something is still screwy with the audio however. When the file is played back using Media Player Classic (v 6.4.91) I see a flickering square in the video. When viewing the list of audio filters during playback, MPC shows a list of 12.

I manually added the audio to the test_movie.avi. The flickering square is gone and viewing the list of audio filters during playback, MPC now shows a list of 6.
(screen shots)

[somebodeez]

Log:

12/4/2008 8:35:13 AM: Job " 1 - Test.avi" started.

o Transcode AC3 -> AC3
o DivX5-First Pass: Test.avs
o DivX5 - Pass 2: Test.avs
o Mux Audio.
End of Job 1 ( 1 - Test.avi).
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Gordian Knot
Encoding Job Data:

Type: EncD6_All
Container: Audio-Video Interleave (AVI)
Number: 1
Name: 1 - Test.avi
Platform: Windows XP (5.1.2600).2

Files:
VirtualDubModExe: C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\VirtualDubMod\VirtualDubMod.exe
NandubExe: C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\Nandub\Nandub.exe
AviFinal: G:\test movie and subs\Test.avi
AviMovie: G:\test movie and subs\Test_Movie.avi
AviCredits: G:\test movie and subs\Test_Credits.avi
MovieFS: G:\test movie and subs\Test.avs
CreditsFS:
Log : G:\test movie and subs\Test.log
Stats: G:\test movie and subs\Test.stats

Options:
Quality/DRF: 0
CreditsStart: 0
UseEcf: 1
CreditsIVTC: 0
CreditsAppend: 0
DeleteInterm.: 0
EnforceBitrate: 0
AntiShit: 0

Calculator:
VideoSize: 991278 kbyte.
Audio1Size: 427909 kbyte.
Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
Overhead: 10315 kbyte.
AviSize: 1429504 kbyte (1396 mbyte).
FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
TotalSize: 1429504 kbyte (1396 mbyte).
Interleaving:
Bitrate: 890 k(=1000)Bits/s
Frames: 218871
FPS: 23.976
Duration: 232:9
Quality: 0.227 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck3: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck5: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
Resolution: 640 x 256

Audio:
Mode: Just Mux Source File.
SourceFile: G:\test movie and subs\Test T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY -47ms.ac3
Ac3File: G:\test movie and subs\Test T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY -47ms.ac3
Bitrate:
Azid: -c normal
Delay: -47 ms
Interval: 0
Preload: 0
Mux: Yes
Recalc: Yes


Audio 1, determined: 427909 kb
Audio 1, calc: 427909 kb

Adding this script to C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX6 First Pass"
// $input "G:\test movie and subs\Test.avs"
// $output "G:\test movie and subs\Test_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("G:\\test movie and subs\\Test.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("G:\\test movie and subs\\Test_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

Started DivX5-First Pass
Finished DivX5-First Pass - Duration: 55 minutes, 19 seconds.
Trying to open Log-file.Success: Log-file open.
Speed: 65.926 Frames per Second.

Adding this script to C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX6 Second Pass"
// $input "G:\test movie and subs\Test.avs"
// $output "G:\test movie and subs\Test_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("G:\\test movie and subs\\Test.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("G:\\test movie and subs\\Test_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

Started DivX5 - Pass: 2
Finished DivX5 - Pass: 2 - Duration: 53 minutes, 29 seconds.
Speed: 68.198 Frames per Second.

Adding this script to C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX6 Append"
// $input "G:\test movie and subs\Test_Movie.avi"
// $output "G:\test movie and subs\Test.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("G:\\test movie and subs\\Test_Movie.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("G:\\test movie and subs\\Test T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY -47ms.ac3",0x00000203,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("G:\\test movie and subs\\Test.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

Started Muxing Audio.
Finished Muxing Audio. - Duration: 1 minute, 3 seconds.

Done....Movie = G:\test movie and subs\Test.avi
Total Encoding Time: 1 hour, 49 minutes, 53 seconds.
12/4/2008 10:25:07 AM: Job " 1 - Test.avi" finished.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

[somebodeez]

Test AVI GSpot Results:

I hope this helps.

[gizmo27]

It's bizarre, I don't have enought knowledge about that but I think muxing audio-video doesn't influe on the video quality.

It's so curious

[somebodeez]

It's bizarre, I don't have enought knowledge about that but I think muxing audio-video doesn't influe on the video quality.

It's so curious

This isn't like the little pixelly squares you could get on a lousy encode. The video quality is fine :)
This is one big flickering square that is visible on the finished AVI file. When I manually add the audio to the video, it's fine and MPC doesn't use twice the amount of filters playing back the audio.

[somebodeez]

Oh - just a couple of more things - some how GKnot lost the ability to retain my resolution and audio settings. I'd like to see that back because this is most helpful when lining up batch encodes, especially for things like TV series.

And a problem with the "Audio 1" and "Audio 2" options in the Bitrate tab.
It wants to set itself to "No Audio" for Audio1 and "AC3" for Audio 2.

[den78]

And a problem with the "Audio 1" and "Audio 2" options in the Bitrate tab.
It wants to set itself to "No Audio" for Audio1 and "AC3" for Audio 2.
yep, those settings can't be saved :(
And one more thing (not a big deal), can't setup x264 when it's not selected.
anywayz, good work man :)

[gizmo27]

I know that men but it's the max I can do with that

Can somebody explain to me how to do a proper diff file please ?

[gizmo27]

@Lenox

I don't know if it's what you search but Kurtnoise has made a patch for GK : gknot_patch_20081203.zip (http://www.unite-video.com/phpbb/download.php?id=2321)

Hoping it could help you

[len0x]

Yes, that patch was was produces off CVS diff. If you don't want to go that route here is the diff utility: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/diffutils.htm

[oMikR0n]

Good job pals. Continue the good work... I was waiting for this for years :thanks:

[eugenio]

Hi.
I would like to know what else is needed to work with thi version updated with the lastest changes,
can you put please a version all include, please.
Im in a new fresh windows install.

[gizmo27]

Hi.
I would like to know what else is needed to work with thi version updated
You must specify all the program paths, after you need :

=> x264.exe (http://mirror01.x264.nl/x264/?dir=./revision1047)

=> DVD Decrypter (http://www.infos-du-net.com/telecharger/DVD-Decrypter,0301-631.html) or DVDFabDecrypter (http://www.homemedia.fr/logiciels/133-telecharger-DVDFab-Decrypter.html) (most recent that DVD Decrypter)

@Lenox

Do you still need a diff file ? Does this file includes too my changes and worfdata ones ?

[gizmo27]

Can I provide GKMod 0.35.1 beta 2 on downloading sites like Digital Digest and others, telling it's for testing ?

[eugenio]

It only let me to encode in xvid, one problem i cant see the resolution what i need to choose, but i can edit in avs so no problem there but is annoying, this was my fisrt impression, more to come.

[gizmo27]

This is some tests results from a man which can be very useful :

In the x264 encoder configuration on GK, "Mixed Ref Frames" never can be selected, usually it's possible with a max of 2 Reference Frames.

Missing to some options for the x264 which improve the video quality :

-In the "Partition Decision" menu, x264 offers now 'RDO on all frames' option (like Megui but there it must be '--subme'), 'RD refinement on I/P frames', and 'RD refinement on all frames'

-In 'Method Search', there's 'SATD Exhaustive' method (more low but why not ?)

(In the 'MB & B Frames' tab, '4x4 Intra Search' isn't activated whereas 'All' is activated by default. It's activated if we choose else than "all" and re-select 'All' after (just a detail but...))

-Finally, missing (maybe to add in the 'H.264' tab) the slides (with numerical values with commas) : 'Psy-RD Strength' (1,0 by default) and 'Psy-Trellis Strengh' (0,0 by default).
And in the 'More...' tab the remaining : 'Adaptive Quantizers' containing a pop-up list (containing the value by default 'Variance AQ (default mask)' and 'Disabled'), and a slide (numerical value with comma)
'Strengh' (with the value 1,0 by default).

And now there are the screensshots which illustrate what it was said before :
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9971/meguiadvancedx264configdd2.png
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2370/meguircmex264configeq6.png

[gizmo27]

A thing too : you must put dgdecode.dll into the following directory : \Program Files\Avisynth 2.5\plugins

If you don't do that, encoding doesn't works !

[JeanneAllen]

I just wanna say that when I saw this thread, I thought of Alexander the Great cutting the Gordian knot. Why is this called Gordian knot anyway?

[OH_NO_ITS_FRODO]

n00bie question guys, I'm getting this popup on install "where is aviutil located?" (or something similar) what program is that 'aviutil' a part of? thanks for info and a NEW release wooohhooooooooo!!!!

[gizmo27]

I just wanna say that when I saw this thread, I thought of Alexander the Great cutting the Gordian knot. Why is this called Gordian knot anyway?
I don't know really but I found this wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot) which explains the legend

I don't really asked me but perhaps "Gordian Knot" is the solution for "not-solvable" divx problems... ;)
I don't know

@frodo

Can you say with more precision when it occures ? Doing what ?

[gizmo27]

Happy new year everybody !

[Barough]

Happy new year everybody !

Happy New Year to u also gizmo27 :)


Are you getting close to putting together a complete installer for the 'new' GK or?

[gizmo27]

At this time I don't know.

Lenox said he may look at the source but I don't know what he project to do.

But I'm still hoping something new for GK :)

[gizmo27]

@Lenox

Do you plan to commit into the GKMod source (if you have the time of course) ?

[somebodeez]

Fingers crossed!
I STILL haven't found anything that can compare to it. :)

[Spiderm@n]

I currently need just one thing. To be able to use VirtualDub and not VDubMod. VirtualDubMod is no longer updated, unlike VirtualDub. Or probably I need a little time, to write some kind of bridge program, that transfers GordianKnot VDubMod commands to VirtualDub, and uses VirtualDub only when needed (MKV/VBR MP3), and from what I've seen VBR MP3 is supported in the new VirtualDub 1.8.8.

//Edit
Ok, few things. I can't see VirtualDubMod, so I don't know if things are working well. And I can't choose the bitrate for a movie, well I can, if I edit GortianKnot.ini and change "cbHideTabs_Checked" to "True", some of the fields are moved there, but it's not very comfortable to use.
And how do I apply "gknot.patch"?

[OH_NO_ITS_FRODO]

@frodo
Can you say with more precision when it occures ? Doing what ?

Hey guys, sorry for the delay in response..

it happens when autogk gets to the VobSub 2.23 install part..."select dir where AviUtil is placed at" (i'm installing the autogk 2.53.beta right now) it happened the last time on autogk2.50.alpha also.

I've searched my HDD for it and i can't see it anywhere.

thanks for any info

EDIT: I just saw this link: http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-101864.html

is this program needed? is it archaic at this stage? sorry for the n00bie questions.

[Spiderm@n]

There's an option not to install it, so just don't, remove the tick befor the AviUtil option and you're good to go :):):).

[gizmo27]

@spiderman

Thanks a lot if you can bring something from you in GKMod

It's so cool to see someone in more who's interested by GKMod

Regards,
Gizmo.

[gizmo27]

@spiderman

I think the best should be to give the choice to the users : to use VDubMod for those who'd like to use it again and to use VDub for those who'd like to use VDub

No ?

[Spiderm@n]

Actually, I was just thinking about a bridge app. Where it asks for VirtualDubMod, you put the bridge and instead of VDubMod it starts Vdub, choosing the right parameters. It's some keys that GKnot uses to call VDubMod, and are not presented in VDub, that's why you can't choose whitch one to use freely. Anyway, it'll be a bit harder, because I'm using Vista x64, and I'm still using something as old as Borland C++ 3.1 (a pretty old DOS IDE), and programs written in it don't work in x64 OS. I'll see what I can do, may be it's time to learn something new :):):).

[OH_NO_ITS_FRODO]

There's an option not to install it, so just don't, remove the tick befor the AviUtil option and you're good to go :):):).

Thanks Spidey, but i still get errors on that second part even when its unchecked. argh! also get some problems where it trys to overwrite a file/s in the system32 directory.

[gizmo27]

@spiderman

Thanks to try to do that man.

What do you mean by "bridge" ? Like a plugin to add or not ?

I just asked if instead of using VDub GKMod couldn't use mencoder like MeGui ?

Just an idea...

[Spiderm@n]

Imagine, that VDubMod has "-a" parameter, and VDub doesnt have it, but has "-b" and some other, that work, so the bridge takes "-a" and uses it as "-b", so Vdub works with the data :):):).

[gizmo27]

aow yes sorry

those 2 softs don't work with the same script... so you may make a transcripter.............................................................

No I joke :)

[Spiderm@n]

Let's see if I can make anything first, and then will think what it is :):):).

[gizmo27]

Hoping you could do something

I'm not a programmer so I spend my free time asking to developping forum how to... I spent a lot of time to understand a few how the GKMod source worked... I spent hours and hours... Sometimes nearly to become crazy...

Sure you can't understand if you aren't instead of me... But I tell you it wasn't easy

But it bringed me some knowledge and improved my little Delphi knowlegde : always little.

I have tons of hopes someone take a look and improve the source code

Sure my code is not professional at all I know that

But I wouldn't made that if I wasn't interested by this...

For me GK will always stay the best of all the encoders

That's all.

See you soon.

[gizmo27]

Any news about GKMod ? Spiderman ?

[Spiderm@n]

Unfortunately, no.

[gizmo27]

:( I don't want to think GKMod is out

I can't think such a thing like that

After all those things I did

[somebodeez]

Still haven't found a program that can beat it so I'm still using it!

[gizmo27]

<gizmo27 joking man>
Still haven't found a program that can beat it so I'm still using it!

If you look at the words in red :

Still haven't found (what I'm looking for) = U2 :cool:
Beat it = Mickael Jackson :cool:
Coolies 1980's...

What have I winned ?

(don't pay attention : it's loud :) ;))
</gizmo27 joking man>

More seriously
As you can see we still camp in the place : in our positions ;)

[somebodeez]

Well I just gave the latest AutoGK a try.
Still don't seem to be able to use custom filters in it and that just won't do.
Back to GK I go!

[oMikR0n]

I tried MeGUI and i am happy with it so far

[gizmo27]

@Lenox

A day you came into the topic and said you were interested by the GKMod source and asked to us to give you the modifs of the source.

And after nothing. Why ?

I think it would be sympathic for you to tell us where are you about this project and why you decided to abandon if it's the case.

I'm sure that more than 1 person should be interested about that.

Thanks in advance.

[medp7060]

Wish I were a programmer!