BeLight 0.22 RC1 has been released

[Kurtnoise]

Heya,

Finally after more than one year without updates, I found some time to release a new build. :)

Changelog:
-Add AVI as input files support.
-Add new fresh encoders : AAC (ND & CT-Winamp), AC3 (Aften), FLAC (Flake) and Aud-X (mp3 Surround).
-Add new priority threads.
-Remove Nero Bundle dlls encoder.
-Update Lame & Vorbis librairies.
-Update some Presets.
-Fix a lot of bugs.

http://coreforge.org/projects/belight/

It seems that CoreForge.org has already some troubles, so I've made a mirror here (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/index.php?dir=BeLight/) (included package with all libs and tools).


Note: libvorbis in the package is optimised for SSE2. So, to avoid to multiply packages, you can change libvorbis.dll by ourself by grabbing the right one here (http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/) according to your machines.

Enjoy...

[guada2]

:thanks: Kurtnoise13

[LigH]

It seems that CoreForge.org has already some troubles, so I've made a mirror here (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/index.php?dir=BeLight/).

I fear yours isn't more reliable either:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

And for totally outdated CPUs without any useful SSE intructions (like my AMD Duron 800), I'd recommend to get libvorbis.dll from rarewares.org - as usual. ;)

[Taurus]

I fear yours isn't more reliable either:

Works like a charme here...:thanks:

[tebasuna51]

Thanks Kurtnoise13, but this version is less operative than previous one, now:

Options checked/BeSweet Command Line/applied options (in log file) don't match at all.

BTW, here is a new spanish.ini (http://www.mytempdir.com/1231334) version.

[Kurtnoise]

Options checked/BeSweet Command Line/applied options (in log file) don't match at all.
You mean that when you close the "Command Line" window, changes are not taken into account ?

If yes, try to click on "Run" directly or "Cancel" button then start the process...otherwise I don't understand what you said.

BTW, here is a new spanish.ini (http://www.mytempdir.com/1231334) version.
10x...

[tebasuna51]

a) BeSweet command line. I think the problem is:
After I see one time the BeSweet command line, next changes in GUI are igored, and only editing the line I can obtain differents jobs.
For instance:

1) Open Belight. See the BeSweet command line:
"D:\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "" -output "" -logfile "" )
And I need close Belight because I can do nothing.

2) Open Belight. Open B.ac3 file. Select mp3 output and parameters. 'Start Processing' and obtain a correct B.mp3.
Select aac output and parameters. 'Start Processing' and obtain a correct B.aac.
Now see the BeSweet command line.
Select ogg output and parameters. 'Start Processing' and obtain a correct B.aac forever.

b) Sometimes I obtain errors:
Error occurred...
Check your logfile for more infos.

And the output and log is OK.

c) With ac3 source some defaults are taken always:
LFE to LR Channels checked (not recommended by Dolby).
Dynamic Compression checked (loss quality). If is unchecked when click at 'Advanced Setting' or any output tab returns to checked.

[Spokje]

Can't seem to import FLAC files.. it just doens't show them when i select them.. anyone else got this problem ?

Edit: Ok thanks tebasuna51

[HeadBangeR77]

First of all - thanks very much for the new release! :)

Secondly I've just taken a quick look at the new version, running a few short transcoding jobs, and I must agree with tebasuna51, unfortunately. There's something obviously wrong with the commandline verse GUI-settings, as I once mentioned ...here... (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=956013#post956013)
I'm sorry, I ain't got enough time atm to test more thoroughly.

cheers,
HDBR77

PS. libvorbisaoTuVr1: 1 204 224 bytes (the one I had been using till the new release), libvorbisaoTuVb5: 192 512 bytes, Lancer's latest SSE: 300 032 bytes - is such a large difference in the file size connected with compiling method or have there been any major changes? :confused:

UPDATE: lame_enc.dll from the 15th Jan (3.98 alpha11) delivers larger files, of higher bitrate, than the previously used by me 3.97 final - 1X kbps and more (???). It seems it uses -q 0 by default instead of -q 3 (or -q 2 I always use for music). Could it be the cause for such a difference in the bitrate with the same files and the same settings?
Editing the commandline doesn't help, since the switch disappears after pressing "run" (press run, hold it for a while, the switch vanishes into thin air). The only thing I can do then is to copy the whole commandline to clipboard, manually edit it, and encode in CLI mode. After that I always get a stereo file, instead of joint stereo. What's going on?

[tebasuna51]

Can't seem to import FLAC files.. it just doens't show them when i select them.. anyone else got this problem ?
BeSweet don't support all audio formats, only mpa, mp2, mp3, ogg, ac3 and wav (without WAVE_FORMAT_EXTENSIBLE header, less than 2 GB for int 16, ...).

Aac (mp4, m4a) is also supported like output but not for input.

[vlada]

Hi,

thank you very much for the new version. I just have 2 comments: On the official page, there is only ZIP version and not the installer. Why?

Also on my computer some texts are cropped:

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3731/belightcv3.png

[sillKotscha]

Also on my computer some texts are cropped

either change your font size or think about changing your font completely ...

[vlada]

either change your font size or think about changing your font completely ...

I think this is not a good solution. I chose the size and fonts which suit my needs and preferences. I don't want to change them. All other programs look O.K., so I think the problem isn't at my side :-)

But it is just a cosmetic issue. There's no need to fix it if it would be difficult.

[Kurtnoise]

Secondly I've just taken a quick look at the new version, running a few short transcoding jobs, and I must agree with tebasuna51, unfortunately. There's something obviously wrong with the commandline verse GUI-settings, as I once mentioned
Yes confirmed. Sorry...I'll see what can I do but not before this weekend.

PS. libvorbisaoTuVr1: 1 204 224 bytes (the one I had been using till the new release), libvorbisaoTuVb5: 192 512 bytes, Lancer's latest SSE: 300 032 bytes - is such a large difference in the file size connected with compiling method or have there been any major changes? :confused:
Why did you care about filesize ? Yes, compilers are mainly part of this.

UPDATE: lame_enc.dll from the 15th Jan (3.98 alpha11) delivers larger files, of higher bitrate, than the previously used by me 3.97 final - 1X kbps and more (???). It seems it uses -q 0 by default instead of -q 3 (or -q 2 I always use for music). Could it be the cause for such a difference in the bitrate with the same files and the same settings?
Editing the commandline doesn't help, since the switch disappears after pressing "run" (press run, hold it for a while, the switch vanishes into thin air). The only thing I can do then is to copy the whole commandline to clipboard, manually edit it, and encode in CLI mode. After that I always get a stereo file, instead of joint stereo. What's going on?
No problem with higher bitrates here but I should stay with 3.97 version. Yes, it's because I've made some tests with the last alpha and I forgot to switch back.

[Kurtnoise]

But it is just a cosmetic issue. There's no need to fix it if it would be difficult.
The culprid is probably your windows theme...I can't do something on my side for this.

edit: installer is hosted on my own webpage coz I can't upload anymore some extras packages on CoreForge. I'll retry later to do this. BetaBoy told me that all seems to be fixed now.

[HeadBangeR77]

Yes confirmed. Sorry...I'll see what can I do but not before this weekend.
Thanks very much anyway. I can live with those issues till the next release /update. ;)

Why did you care about filesize ? Yes, compilers are mainly part of this.
Just my noobish curiosity - seeing 3 versions, not so distant in terms of development's stage, of the same library with such a difference in the size made me wonder. That's all. ;)

No problem with higher bitrates here but I should stay with 3.97 version. Yes, it's because I've made some tests with the last alpha and I forgot to switch back.
If you can't reproduce it, it is most probably on my side then (could be -q 0 ?) - gotta check it with EAC and my audio CDs soon.

cheers,
HDBR77

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi Kurt,

Very nice version. They just keep getting better :)

One thing.... I'm unable to work out how to generate FLAC encodes. I can't find the options!

Am I dumb or what?

[HeadBangeR77]

@ SMD:
There used to be a separate tab "Lossless" (e.g. in 0.2.2 beta9 20061002 which I'm still using atm), but I can't see it in the latest RC-1 build. There is always a possibility we're both dumb. :D ;)

@ Kurtnoise13:
The uninstaller just uninstalls the uninstaller itself (+ desktop icon) and nothing more. Both the group in Program Files and the application's folder are intact. Checked 3 times on my PC (WinXP Pro SP2) and notebook (WinXP Home SP2), so I think it must be some kind of bug.

cheers,
HDBR77

[SeeMoreDigital]

@ SMD:
There used to be a separate tab "Lossless" (e.g. in 0.2.2 beta9 20061002 which I'm still using atm).... Really.... Where? I can't find this option?

Can you take a "screen grab" please?


Cheers

[HeadBangeR77]

Really.... Where? I can't find this option?
Can you take a "screen grab" please?

Cheers
I've already done, just wait a sec, uploading at 8KB/s. :D
Gonna update this post with a link soon.

Here it is:
http://xasonline.info/headbanger/BeLight-4SMD.png

Btw. I've got some old FLAC 1.1.2a installed, if it matters (just marked there's a new 1.1.4 version).

You can call me an idiot - it was Flake. :stupid:
My face is as red as the letters above, sorry.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Here it is:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4135/belight4smdadq4.pngThanks for the confirmation.

I too have version 0.2.2.0 Beta 9 @ 2006-10-02 installed.... But I don't have access to that tab.... Very odd.

I feel rather embarrassed too. I asked Kurt for FLAC support a couple of times. He implemented it... And I missed it :o


Sorry mate....

[sillKotscha]

But I don't have access to that tab.... Very odd.

what about: options -> view -> tabs ;)

[SeeMoreDigital]

what about: options -> view -> tabs ;)Oh Jeez...

Now I feel like a complete "dumb-ass"... It's all there... and it works too!

Thanks sillKotscha.... and thank-you Kurt.

No, where is that rock a can crawl under?

[Taurus]

This is what I get when adding files via: File/Add Directory

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2662/delightwo8.png (http://imageshack.us)

The files show up in the queue, "start processing" gets me this error.:confused:
Manually putting files in the queue work.:)

[Kurtnoise]

"Add Directory" feature is not debugged yet but thanks to remind me the trick...Should be ok in the next release.

[Taurus]

"Add Directory" feature is not debugged yet but thanks to remind me the trick...Should be ok in the next release.
It's always a pleasure...and many thanks for continuing developing this nice GUI.

Cheers

Taurus

[SeeMoreDigital]

Okay another dumb question/observation....

Using 2Ch WAV sources as my input. I am trying to generate Lame MP3 streams at 128Kbps in "stereo" mode. However, they seem to come out in "joint stereo" mode!

Here's the log: -BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (14/1/2007), Engine 3.98 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 03/04/07 , 15:04:50.

C:\Program Files\BeLight\BeSweet.exe -core( -input T:\2Ch WAV Source.wav -output T:\2Ch WAV Source.mp3 -logfile T:\2Ch WAV Source.log ) -lame( -b 128 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : T:\2Ch WAV Source.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: T:\2Ch WAV Source.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 bitrate : 128
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Joint Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:03:02:998] Conversion Completed !
[00:03:02:998] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 128kbps
[00:00:13:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 03/04/07 , 15:05:03.

How can I configure BeLight to output MP3 at 128Kbps in "stereo"?

[Kurtnoise]

JS is stereo...What's the problem ?

This is what I get when adding files via: File/Add Directory

The files show up in the queue, "start processing" gets me this error.:confused:

Fixed...

[SeeMoreDigital]

JS is stereo...What's the problem ?If possible I would like to test the difference between "Joint Stereo" and "Stereo".... Is this possible with Lame?

[Taurus]

Fixed...

Thank you.

[Kurtnoise]

If possible I would like to test the difference between "Joint Stereo" and "Stereo".... Is this possible with Lame?
Yes of course....http://lame.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/lame/lame/doc/html/switchs.html#m

Add -m s manually. :D

[HeadBangeR77]

Any news on the line between GUI and GUI's CLI? ;)

@ SMD:
LAME automatically chooses joint stereo for the most of possible modes (it saves significant bitrate). AFAIR it picks up stereo only for very high bitrate CBR encoding /transcoding. Joint stereo used by LAME is safe - there is sth' on the topic in the enclosed documentation.

[Kurtnoise]

Any news on the line between GUI and GUI's CLI? ;)
I'm working on it (only the weekend though).

[PV]

Hi

I am a real newbie at this and would appreciate your help & patience.

I am trying to rip some audio from my dvds. I have installed BeSweet, Belight 0.21 and VOBinput.dll in one folder. Once I open Belight & press "start" to convert VOB to MP3, a DOS windown opens & shuts. Thats all that happens. I tried reading the old thread but couldnt understand a lot of it. So could someone please tell me what I am doing wrong & how to correct it.

Appreciate the help.

Thx
PV

[LigH]

Welcome to the doom9 board.

In general, always a useful hint: :logfile:

BeLight is a GUI which does not convert on its own, but instead calls the BeSweet.exe - which is a CLI (command line interface) application, and runs in a DOS window.

If the window closes immediately, the generated command line must be quite wrong, so BeSweet fails executing the commands. But it should create a log file (BeSweet.log) and report why it failed.

You should open this file in a text editor, and paste its content into a "CODE" tag in your reply. http://forum.doom9.org/images/editor/code.gif

A usual mistake is: BeSweet was not at all installed - or there is only the Beta package (1.5b31), which is incomplete without a previously existing and therewith updated stable version (1.4).

[PV]

If the window closes immediately, the generated command line must be quite wrong, so BeSweet fails executing the commands. But it should create a log file (BeSweet.log) and report why it failed.

You should open this file in a text editor, and paste its content into a "CODE" tag in your reply. http://forum.doom9.org/images/editor/code.gif



LigH

Where do I find the BeSweet.log & how do I do a "code" tag?

Thanks for the help

PV

[LigH]

1) If you don't see it with your eyes, let the PC search the file -- which is named like the input file (and located in the same folder), just with the extension ".log".

Make sure that BeLight will create a log file:

http://www.ligh.de/pics/BeLight_Main.png http://www.ligh.de/pics/BeLight_Adv.png
__

2) Well - this is "basic bulletin board usage"! Two possible options:

2a) Type it in your quick-reply text box: paste here

2b) Click the little button I already showed you in my previous answer:

http://forum.doom9.org/images/buttons/reply.gif

http://www.ligh.de/pics/vBulletin_Code.png

[miztadux]

Thanks Kurtnoise, Great Work !!

PS: i don't know if it's intentional, but Chinese.ini and Czech.ini are not in the installer package....You also have a "Thumbs.db" left "Partial_doc" in the zip package. (i know...i should take a vacation)

[Taurus]

I am a real newbie at this and would appreciate your help & patience.
@PV
1.:This Thread is about Belight 0.22 RC1
You wrote you are using Belight 0.21 Stable.
You need a mp3 codec (Lame 3.9*) and other codecs in Belight folder.
Belight/Besweet does not rip the vobs from your media: DVD/CD.
You have to copy the vobs to your harddrive first.
Or use a DVDRipper in case the Vobs are encrypted.
Just tested with Belight 0.21 and Lame.exe and it works :)

[LigH]

Well ... BeSweet could read audio from VOBs. If you install the plugin "VOBInput.dll", create a list file containing the filename of all contiguous VOBs, and know the substream number of the audio stream...

Definitely no "newbie" task. Yet possible. ;)
__

@ Taurus:

Thanks for your oversight. I have a habit of debating details regardless of the circumstances...

[PV]

@PV
1.:This Thread is about Belight 0.22 RC1
You wrote you are using Belight 0.21 Stable.
You need a mp3 codec (Lame 3.9*) and other codecs in Belight folder.
Belight/Besweet does not rip the vobs from your media: DVD/CD.
You have to copy the vobs to your harddrive first.
Or use a DVDRipper in case the Vobs are encrypted.
Just tested with Belight 0.21 and Lame.exe and it works :)


Taurus

Thx for the help. I had downloaded lame 3.9 but it didnt work My mistake was that I was trying to directly rip for my dvd. Once I copied the dvd to my hard-disk it worked like a charm

Thanks all

[BiO-HaZaRd]

I'm unable to open an ac3 file in rc1 version, u know why is that?

[Kurtnoise]

Upload a short sample of your ac3 file please...

[BiO-HaZaRd]

How much time??

[Kurtnoise]

~ 1 min...

[Mtz]

I see that BeLight uses a lot of exe and dll files. Can somebody upload for example at www.sendspace.com all BeLight directory including all tools (updated) for all encodes from the gui? For a new user is hard to find all tools just reading the log file. :(

enjoy,
Mtz

[Kurtnoise]

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/BeLight/BeLight-0.22_RC1.exe

[Mtz]

Thank you!
Besplit and sox still missing but I don't know if I'll use them. For testing I was trying to make an ogg and BeLight gave me an error. I don't use ogg; i just reported.

enjoy,
Mtz

[vlada]

Mtz
Please post more details. What error did you get? And also please paste here your LOG file.

[Mtz]

This is the log:

BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using hip.dll v1.19 by Myers Carpenter <myers@users.sf.net>
Using libVorbis.dll v1.0 ( 0061110](SSE2) (based on aoTuV b5)
) by John33 (www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00).

Logging start : 05/20/07 , 00:38:59.

C:\Program Files\BeLight\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\test.mp3 -output C:\test.ogg -logfile C:\test.log ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -ogg( -q 0.200 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\test.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: C:\test.ogg
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 0.97

enjoy,
Mtz