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jml_90
22nd February 2007, 04:34
Hi, i've already posted the problem that i'm having enconding my DVDs with MeGUI x264 for my iPod Video. I get a lot of blocking and in the dark scenes are fully of noisy blocks. Lamentably i still have the same problem, i tried everything, but i can't eliminate that blocks. Again I tried to encode with other programs that converts to H.264 compatible with iPod, but the quality is disappointing. I know that Nero has the best AVC Codec at the moment, and i see that has a spectacular quality. But Nero doesn't have a profile for AVC compatible with iPod with resolution larger than 320x240.
So for only waste my time, i started to encode with different options in Nero Recode included in Nero Premium 7.5.7.0, and i discovered that Nero can encode AVC Videos of 640x480 compatible with iPod 5.5G or 5G with the 1.2 firmware. Well, i don't know if i'm the first of discovering this, so if nobody know how to do this i tell you here what i did:
1 - Open Nero Recode, Open Your DVD, select the audio (only one) then do the extras things like cropping, selecting the part of the video that you want, etc.
2 - Select "Nero Digital AVC" in Nero Digital Category and "Standard - AVC" in Nero Digital Profile (it also work with "Cinema - AVC")
3 - In Video -> Resize, select "Custom Resize" and disable "Letterboxing" in the width put a value not larger than 640 and in the height not larger than 480.
4 - In "Audio" select Stereo then click in Settings and select Custom Profile, then put the profile to "LC(Low Complexity)" and select the bitrate not bigger than 160 and the frequenzy not bigger than 48Hz.
5 - Select the Video Bitrate. Apple says that the bitrate can't to be more than 1,5 Mbps but isn't true, iPod support a higher bitrate like 3 Mbps or more.
6 - Click Next, select a hard disk folder to save the video, then open "Nero Digital Settings", activate "Expert" and change the follow things:

In Rate Control:
Choose High quality encoding (2pass) (for best quality, it works with 1 pass too)
In General Settings:

Dessicion Quality->High Quality (for best quality, works with all the levels).
Maximum Vector Range: Select the most appropiate
Maximum Reference Frames: 1
Maximum GOP Sizes: 250
Maximum B Frames: 0

Enconding tools:
Disable all options except "Macroblock Partition" and "Deblocking" where you have to put a value between -6 to 6.

Visual Enhancements:
Select All the options
7 - Finally click on Burn
8 - When the process finish you have to separate the AAC Audio (in a MP4 or AAC file) and the Video (in a MP4 file) with MP4Box.
9 - Then you have to unite the extracted Video with the Audio in a MP4 compatible with iTunes 7 for that you have to download this special MP4Box http://nic.dnsalias.com/NicMP4Box.zip
10- Finally you have a 100% compatible AVC Video with your iPod and now you can't import the file by iTunes.

Well, i imagine that finally i wouldn't get the blocks with Nero, but i'm wrong, i have the same problems with the blocks.This time i'm enconding the original DVD of Pirates of The Caribbean. I don't know what i have to do, to eliminate that damn blocks. Please someone help me, i'm driving crazy. Thanks. Bye.

DeathTheSheep
22nd February 2007, 05:07
Post the commandline(s) you used with x264 to produce the problem.

Steps to combat dark scene blocking and globular motion (in order of usefulness):
1. ENABLE deblocker/inloop at --filter 0,0 (default) or --filter 1,1
2. Use: --no-fast-pskip
3. Use: --aq-strength 0.33, up to --aq-strength 0.5 (requires sharktooth build).
4. Tweak --deadzone settings (because the blocks are appearing in the "deadzone")
5. Use higher quality general options like --subme 7, --me-umh, etc
6. In your AVS, try filtering, smoothing, and deblocking the original (or even running it through ffdshow using fast SPP!).
7. Crank up the bitrate.

Have you tried watching the files on your computer? Sometimes there are faulty decoders in hardware devices. If all codecs produce the same problem, maybe it's your iPod's fault. :o Either way, a screenshot or two to help diagnose the problem would be much appreciated.

jml_90
22nd February 2007, 14:04
DeathTheShip i've already do all those things, i've posted the same problems a week ago, http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=122090. There are screenshots. I don't think it's a iPod fault because i've download video podcast from iTunes and looks greatin iPod and doesn't have blocking, and in the computer are very visible too. Well, thanks anyway. Bye.