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Bosko
12th February 2007, 01:45
I just attempted to do an Xvid backup of an episode of Animaniacs from my dvds. I used RipIt4Me to rip the dvd and AutoGK to convert to Xvid.

I have some questions about the process and my results:

1. Each time I tried to convert to Divx, AutoGK ended up converting all five episodes that were ripped from the DVD together into one file. The first time I selected some IFO and it then gave me the option of picking one of five 22 minute files. So I picked the first one. Then when I let the program do it's thing, it took four hours and I ended up with a file containing all five episodes in very tiny resolution. So the next time I picked the first VOB that I knew was the first episode and did it that way, and it did the same thing. So finally, I removed everything from the folder except for the VOB for the first episode, chose that file in AutoGK, and that did the trick.

So can there only be one VOB in the folder when you choose what to convert in AutoGK? Or is there a different/better way to do this with episodic dvds?

2. So I completed the conversion and did so with three different methods all with the target size of 180MB. One using Cartoon Mode and Auto Width, which resulted in a file that was 512x384. I also did one the same, but without cartoon mode. Then I did one with the width set to 640. I was told that the best result would be the 512x384 w/cartoon mode. So here's the log for that one:

[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Job started.
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Input file: C:\DVD Rips\ANIMANIACS_VOLUME_1_DISC_1\VTS_01_1.VOB
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Output file: C:\DVD Rips\ANIMANIACS_VOLUME_1_DISC_1\VTS_01_1.avi
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Output codec: XviD
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Audio 1: Audio Stream 1 AC3
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Subtitles: none
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Format: AVI
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Target size: 180Mb
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Started encoding.
[2/10/2007 11:32:39 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[2/10/2007 11:33:41 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\ANIMANIACS_VOLUME_1_DISC_1\VTS_01_1.VOB
[2/10/2007 11:33:41 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[2/10/2007 11:33:41 PM] Found NTSC source.
[2/10/2007 11:33:41 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[2/10/2007 11:33:41 PM] Color correction enabled.
[2/10/2007 11:33:41 PM] Analyzing source.
[2/10/2007 11:34:40 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 24.89
[2/10/2007 11:34:40 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 69.54
[2/10/2007 11:34:40 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 30.46
[2/10/2007 11:34:40 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[2/10/2007 11:34:40 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[2/10/2007 11:34:40 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[2/10/2007 11:34:50 PM] Found threshold of: 1.95
[2/10/2007 11:34:50 PM] Output will contain 31907 frames
[2/10/2007 11:34:50 PM] Decoding audio.
[2/10/2007 11:35:22 PM] Normalizing audio.
[2/10/2007 11:35:38 PM] Encoding audio.
[2/10/2007 11:38:02 PM] Using cartoon mode.
[2/10/2007 11:38:02 PM] Audio1 size: 19,139,208 bytes (18.25 Mb)
[2/10/2007 11:38:02 PM] Overhead: 1,276,288 bytes (1.22 Mb)
[2/10/2007 11:38:02 PM] Video size: 168,328,184 bytes (160.53 Mb)
[2/10/2007 11:38:02 PM] Running compressibility test.
[2/10/2007 11:38:02 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\ANIMANIACS_VOLUME_1_DISC_1\agk_tmp\VTS_01_1_comptest.avs
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LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\ANIMANIACS_VOLUME_1_DISC_1\agk_tmp\VTS_01_1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.95)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
SelectRangeEvery(214,15)
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[2/10/2007 11:40:50 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 48 seconds
[2/10/2007 11:40:50 PM] Speed was: 13.28 fps.
[2/10/2007 11:40:51 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 37.30
[2/10/2007 11:40:51 PM] Chosen resolution is: 512x384 ( AR: 1.33 )
[2/10/2007 11:40:51 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 58.29%
[2/10/2007 11:40:51 PM] Running first pass.
[2/10/2007 11:40:51 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\ANIMANIACS_VOLUME_1_DISC_1\agk_tmp\VTS_01_1_movie.avs
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LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\ANIMANIACS_VOLUME_1_DISC_1\agk_tmp\VTS_01_1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.95)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
===========================================================
[2/10/2007 11:58:24 PM] Duration was: 17 minutes 33 seconds
[2/10/2007 11:58:24 PM] Speed was: 30.28 fps.
[2/10/2007 11:58:24 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 51.06%
[2/10/2007 11:58:24 PM] Running second pass.
[2/11/2007 12:20:43 AM] Duration was: 22 minutes 17 seconds
[2/11/2007 12:20:43 AM] Speed was: 23.85 fps.
[2/11/2007 12:20:43 AM] Job finished. Total time: 48 minutes 3 seconds

I burned all three tests to a cd (figuring no sense wasting a dvd) and watched them. All three versions ended up looking about the same (though I'd say this one above was probably the best). However, all three versions have the same problem:

The image quality itself, while decent, looks weird when there's motion. It's kind of "stuttery" -- like there's a frame here or there missing or something (not saying that's the case, that's just the only way I can think to describe it). It's not super-stuttery (like a packed bitstreams thing), but it definitely looks "off".

(I don't know if converting them with the MediaTek setting instead of the ESS would make any difference with that...? I tried playing all three files back on both an ESS player and a MediaTek player, and they all looked the same.)

So what is causing this? And what settings can I change to get rid of the problem? Do I need a higher file size? Any help is appreciated -- thanks!
CWR03
12th February 2007, 06:17
You will need to first rip the individual episodes with DVD Decrypter in IFO mode, then encode them separately. AutoGK does not separate individual PGC's. The "stuttery" problem could mean the content is hybrid, with some scenes needing a different framerate than others. There's no way to tell without a sample of the source.

Make sure to wrap "code" tags around your log so it's not necessary to scroll left and right to read the post. You can easily edit your original post by highlighting the log portion and clicking the "#" button.
Bosko
12th February 2007, 09:14
You will need to first rip the individual episodes with DVD Decrypter in IFO mode, then encode them separately. AutoGK does not separate individual PGC's. The "stuttery" problem could mean the content is hybrid, with some scenes needing a different framerate than others. There's no way to tell without a sample of the source.

1. What is happening is that when I rip them in IFO like you said, it's ripping the entire VOB (all five episodes together), even though I'm selecting just one episode to rip. So that's why AutoGK keeps going back to the beginning no matter what, it's because the VOB is all five together. How do I rip the episodes separately so that the VOB that's ripped is ONLY for that paticular episode?

EDIT: OKAY, I'M DUMB -- THAT WAS THE VOB FOR ONLY THE FIRST EPISODE. THE IFO IN AUTOGK JUST LETS YOU CHOOSE ANY OF THE FIVE, BUT THE VOB IS ONLY FOR THE FIRST ONE. GOT IT...

2. I chose the Force IVTC in the Hidden Options and converted the episode, and when I played it back on my laptop, it looked to me like the stuttery-effect was gone (I'll have to burn it to cd and play it on my dvd player to confirm -- but there's another problem I need to ask you about first).

3. What is the force interlace option for hybrid files (or somethink like that), that's right under the Force IVTC that I used? Would this also help or is it something completely different?

Thanks!