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blutach
29th January 2008, 22:18
Lumgain will not affect anything. It seems you may have got some dropped frames. Look in your DVDRB log.
Also, try to encode that segment manually with HC. Download HC22 (http://www.bitburners.com/hc-encoder/) into its own folder somewhere and just do a prepare with HC and use the INI on HCGUI to encode the segment. See how it goes. If no good, you might wanna post the issue with Hank in the MPEG-2 Encoding sub-forum.
In any event, this doesn't appear to be a PgcEdit problem :)
BTW: The time map table from DVDRB is always consistent with PgcEdit, having the correct number of entries.
P.S. Consider using Imageshack to post images directly.
Regards
AlienX69
1st February 2008, 09:30
r0lZ,
When Tracing with the box checked that allows individual cell(s) blanking in the preview window. Would it be possible to have it come up in Default with the "Blank this Cell" checked ON ? And in addition have the Close Preview button auto highlighted so all that is required is an "Enter" keystroke. Then the "Kill Playback of this PGC?" dialog pops up, another "Enter". This way the cursor never leaves the "Next PB" button on the main app window.
So for instance you have a few cells, ie the FBI Warnings in a few languages, and variations of that sort, etc in the same VTST. And if it happens to jump to another VTST that needs a few blanked cells. I do find this quite often in some titles.
It makes it very convenient with a just few "Enter" keystrokes without ever taking the pointer off the "Next PB" button.
Or could you add it in the preferences so the user could define ?
Just a thought !!!
PS: Hope that is as clear as mud ... :)
As always, FANTASTIC Tool, DVD editing would really suck without it !!
Regards
AX
r0lZ
1st February 2008, 09:56
When Tracing with the box checked that allows individual cell(s) blanking in the preview window. Would it be possible to have it come up in Default with the "Blank this Cell" checked ON ?No, sorry. This is too dangerous. Furthermore, this flag shows the current state of the cell. If the cell has been blanked, when you trace again, you will see it on. This is important, as the same cell might be reused elsewhere, and understanding that it has already been blanked is important.
But I can ask Jeanl to add a shortcut key to turn this flag on.
You can close the preview with the Escape key. The subsequent yes/no or ok/cancel dialogs can be operated with Enter or Esc. (BTW, almost all dialogs can be closed that way, except the command editor that needs Control-Enter or Esc.)
Note also that you can use the TAB key in the main PgcEdit window to select any button, and use the Space key to activate it. If you select the "Next PB" button, when you leave the preview, it will be sufficient to hit Space to continue the trace.
AlienX69
1st February 2008, 16:50
Yes I forgot about it showing the status of an already blanked cell......
I did already know about 'Esc', 'Tab', 'Space'......
Plus what started me on this suggestion was the subsequent dialog:
"The subsequent yes/no or ok/cancel dialogs can be operated with Enter or Esc."It only requires an 'Enter' ....
Was just a thought, NOT that important, it would just save ME a few mouse clicks/keystrokes
As for the 'preview window' when I Tab, it has 3 focus objects, 'Info' (text), Preview Slider, 'Blank this Cell' (text) ..... I cant get it to focus on the 'Yes/No' box for the 'Blank this Cell' for it to add a check mark (normally a SpaceBar ?). I looked at the Shortcuts JeanL has on the 'modal Dialog window' (top left dropdown Preview window).
PS: I do know most keystroke commands/shortcuts, I use a MS Access Movie dB (i built), on my Main input form I use no mouse, all keystrokes/ctrl/F-keys, Shift-Tab, etc .... yes as you can see I'm a keyboard geek .... started on a Apple II clone a Franklin 1000 (LOL) days before even DOS or when Gates was developing DOS for release.....
BTW: While we on shortcuts any possibility of one for 'Delete Uncalled TitleSets (Fast)'
Sorry anything I left out had to run .....
Regards,
AX
r0lZ
1st February 2008, 17:15
Usually, Delete Uncalled TitleSets is used only once per DVD, and only if the DVD has many titlesets, with many PGCs. I think I have used this function only 2 or 3 times (without the tests when I have developed that function.) Do you really need a shortcut for it? I prefer to keep them for more frequently used functions.
AlienX69
1st February 2008, 18:35
Again just a thought, as you mentioned I only use it once as well per DVD..... not necessary.
A little more on the preview window though.
I can't see a way get the check mark in the 'Blank this Cell' using keystrokes.
Sorry for being so anal, it's just that I do use this a lot ~
FYI: On the pull-down 'About PgcEditPreview' I notice d that the link/button JeanL has to 'PgcEdit home page' is still point to tiscali.be instead of scarlet.be and the links on the scarlet page still don't get you to your Home Page.
AX
jeanl
1st February 2008, 18:40
As for the 'preview window' when I Tab, it has 3 focus objects, 'Info' (text), Preview Slider, 'Blank this Cell' (text) ..... I cant get it to focus on the 'Yes/No' box for the 'Blank this Cell' for it to add a check mark (normally a SpaceBar ?).
mmm, I can tab between "Info" and "Blank", but unfortunately, the normal "TAB" shortcut to toggle a checkbox does not work because it's used for start/stop...
In any case, I've added a short cut for blank (b) and blank-and-exit (shift-b) so you should be all set.
There's also a new shortcut for exist and stop trace (x)... r0lZ will distribute the new version when the time's up!
Jeanl
AlienX69
1st February 2008, 18:44
THX JeanL .... greatly appreciated !!!
EDIT: Ur 'MenuShrink' link in ur sig seems not to work
EDIT2: Went to your 'Other Tools' on Home Page seems MenuShrink link is out there as well.
AX
r0lZ
1st February 2008, 19:02
FYI: On the pull-down 'About PgcEditPreview' I notice d that the link/button JeanL has to 'PgcEdit home page' is still point to tiscali.be instead of scarlet.be and the links on the scarlet page still don't get you to your Home Page.The Tiscali and Scarlet URLs are not valid any more. The official homepage is at VideoHelp: http://download.videohelp.com/r0lZ/pgcedit/
Currently, there is a mirror in Belgium here: http://home.tele2allin.be/vt6328799/pgcedit/index.html
And an unofficial mirror, that I don't maintain myself, in Poland, but it is currently down. I don't know why.
jeanl
1st February 2008, 19:06
THX JeanL .... greatly appreciated !!!
EDIT: Ur 'MenuShrink' link in ur sig seems not to work
EDIT2: Went to your 'Other Tools' on Home Page seems MenuShrink link is out there as well.
AX
Yes, that's correct. I haven't fixed these since the demise of RipIt4Me and other softwares caught in the tempest :(. I have removed the link from my signature...
Jeanl
AlienX69
1st February 2008, 20:33
@r0lz
I was just letting you know about the links, OH I know where your home page is one of my TOP links ..... LOL .... Luv PgcEdit .. be lost without it !!
@Jeanl
I didn't realize MenuS fell victim, and that's ashame. I thought RI4M and FVTS were the only victims .... :(:(:(
EDIT: THX to you both for such GREAT tools ....;)
[Tobi]
3rd February 2008, 11:00
A question to Replace VTST Titles...
If I replace two titles which contain BOVs, I miss always the Cell Still Times and the Streams assignments.
Also if the number of cells of the new PGC matches with the number of cells of the original PGC.
It's a problem if the titles contain BOVs or do I misunderstand the function?
r0lZ
3rd February 2008, 11:40
The Cell Still Times are either preserved or copied from the imported title, depending of the option to keep the original structure.
The stream attributes are always imported, as you could have changed them.
The presence of BOVs should not modify this behaviour, but I don't remember if I have verified this function in this precise case. I will do it right now...
Wombler
9th February 2008, 11:37
@r0lZ
Unusually for me I missed the update to v8.6 and only downloaded the latest version yesterday.
Everything runs fine until the program tries to save changes when it crashes and displays the standard XP send error report to Microsoft prompt.
This happens when I manually select save or when the program activates it automatically during certain functions.
I'm running on XP SP2 with a single core AMD Athlon 64 4000+ processor.
All previous versions still work fine and in the meantime I've gone back to v8.5.
Any ideas?
Wombler
r0lZ
9th February 2008, 12:40
Well, I haven't received similar bug reports yet. The method used to save the settings has not changed, therefore I guess it's something related to your system.
Can you confirm that the program doesn't crash when you quit it when Options -> Save Settings on Exit is not ticked, and that it crashes when you save the settings manually with Options -> Save Settings Now?
Maybe a setting file is corrupt. They are stored in your "Application Data" folder, usually C:\Documents and Settings\<your user name>\Application Data\PgcEdit. Try to remove completely (or rename) that folder. (Note that Application Data is an hidden folder, so you might have to modify your folder options to access it.)
Also, try to turn the option User Interface -> Play Sounds... off.
V8.6 is the first version that uses freeWrap v6.3. If I can't locate the problem, I will send you a version compiled with freeWrap 6.2, 6.3.1 or 6.4. Please let me know if you need it...
Wombler
9th February 2008, 13:01
Well, I haven't received similar bug reports yet. The method used to save the settings has not changed, therefore I guess it's something related to your system.
Can you confirm that the program doesn't crash when you quit it when Options -> Save Settings on Exit is not ticked, and that it crashes when you save the settings manually with Options -> Save Settings Now?
Maybe a setting file is corrupt. They are stored in your "Application Data" folder, usually C:\Documents and Settings\<your user name>\Application Data\PgcEdit. Try to remove completely (or rename) that folder. (Note that Application Data is an hidden folder, so you might have to modify your folder options to access it.)
Also, try to turn the option User Interface -> Play Sounds... off.
V8.6 is the first version that uses freeWrap v6.3. If I can't locate the problem, I will send you a version compiled with freeWrap 6.2, 6.3.1 or 6.4. Please let me know if you need it...
Thanks for the amazingly quick response r0lZ.
I'll try this out and report back.
BTW I'd already tried the "User Interface -> Play Sounds... off" trick (without success) as it's reported elsewhere in this thread.
Wombler
Wombler
9th February 2008, 13:28
Well, I haven't received similar bug reports yet. The method used to save the settings has not changed, therefore I guess it's something related to your system.
Can you confirm that the program doesn't crash when you quit it when Options -> Save Settings on Exit is not ticked, and that it crashes when you save the settings manually with Options -> Save Settings Now?
Maybe a setting file is corrupt. They are stored in your "Application Data" folder, usually C:\Documents and Settings\<your user name>\Application Data\PgcEdit. Try to remove completely (or rename) that folder. (Note that Application Data is an hidden folder, so you might have to modify your folder options to access it.)
Also, try to turn the option User Interface -> Play Sounds... off.
V8.6 is the first version that uses freeWrap v6.3. If I can't locate the problem, I will send you a version compiled with freeWrap 6.2, 6.3.1 or 6.4. Please let me know if you need it...
r0lZ Apologies if I've inadvertently confused things but I've just realised what you're referring to and we may be misunderstanding each other.
It's not the saving of the interface settings that's causing it to crash it's saving of any changes made to the DVD that creates the problem.
The program doesn't crash on exiting under any circumstances but obviously I never get the chance to exit if I've altered the DVD and choose to save those alterations.
Have you any further advice in those circumstances?
TIA
Wombler
r0lZ
9th February 2008, 13:54
Have you any further advice in those circumstances?No! Even less!
Are you sure that you have write permissions on all DVD files and folders?
Have you edited the menu buttons or BOVs?
Does it happen with all DVDs, or just one? (There might be something odd in your DVD.)
Are there some warnings when you load the DVD?
Does it crash even if you load the DVD and save it immediately, without having made any modification?
Please try this: Open PgcEdit, but do not load any DVD. Select File -> New DVD, and create a DVD somewhere on your HDD. It will be saved immediately. Does PgcEdit crash during this operation?
Anyway, try to remove the settings files, as explained previously. Also, please download again the latest version (in zipped form) from my site, and try that version.
Wombler
9th February 2008, 14:43
No! Even less!
1. Are you sure that you have write permissions on all DVD files and folders?
2. Have you edited the menu buttons or BOVs?
3. Does it happen with all DVDs, or just one? (There might be something odd in your DVD.)
4. Are there some warnings when you load the DVD?
5. Does it crash even if you load the DVD and save it immediately, without having made any modification?
6. Please try this: Open PgcEdit, but do not load any DVD. Select File -> New DVD, and create a DVD somewhere on your HDD. It will be saved immediately. Does PgcEdit crash during this operation?
Anyway, try to remove the settings files, as explained previously. Also, please download again the latest version (in zipped form) from my site, and try that version.
r0lZ I've completely removed the program including the hidden directory you referred to, redownloaded and reinstalled. I've numbered your questions and the following answers are what happens even after I've done all the above.
1. There are no restrictions on write permissions and 8.5 works perfectly.
2. Haven't changed any menu buttons or BOVs all I was doing was killing playback of a few forced trailers and tidying up the disc by removing uncalled PGCs but see 4. below anyway.
3. Happens with all DVDs not just one.
4. No there are no warnings and no specific errors either when it crashes which is a bit of a hinderance.
5. I hadn't actually tried this but it saves the files, comes up with the 'DVD Saved OK' prompt and then it crashes even without any modifications.
6. That works fine and it creates the files. As before though if I subsequently click on the save button it bombs out.
Wombler
blutach
9th February 2008, 15:07
Is there any abnormal log entries? View --> Show Log.
Although, it sounds like a conflicting driver.
Regards
Wombler
9th February 2008, 15:49
Is there any abnormal log entries? View --> Show Log.
Although, it sounds like a conflicting driver.
Regards
Not that I'm aware of but your expert eye would be appreciated.
Here's a simple example of a movie only copy I did the other day although I don't even have to load a disc to get it to crash as I discovered during r0lZ's tests (see No.6 above).
I've never had any problem with previous versions, 8.5 works perfectly on the same setup (as does 8.4 which I've just tested out of curiosity) and there are apparently no informative error codes that I'm aware of so it's likely to be difficult to track this one down.
These days I've pretty much got all I need installed on my machine so my configuration is pretty constant and other than updates to existing programs I haven't added any entirely new software in quite some time.
I haven't updated any drivers in at least the last six months either and there are no problems showing in the device manager even with the hidden ones made visible.
Bit of a mystery really.
Wombler
Reading DVD "D:/DVD Rip Folder/Originals/THE_BOURNE_ULTIMATUM/VIDEO_TS"
>>> Reading VMG IFO.
Reading VMG IFO.
Reading "D:/DVD Rip Folder/Originals/THE_BOURNE_ULTIMATUM/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO" (translation: binary, seek: 0)
Computing start and end addresses of the VMG tables.
Extracting VMGM_MAT.
Extracting VMG_TT_SRPT.
Extracting VMGM_PGCI_UT.
Extracting VMG_PTL_MAIT.
Extracting VMG_VTS_ATRT.
Extracting VMG_TXTDT_MG.
Extracting VMGM_C_ADT.
Extracting VMGM_VOBU_ADMAP.
Parsing VMG IFO.
Found 1 VTSs
Parsing FP-PGC.
Found 1 pre, 0 post and 0 cell commands.
Parsing PGCI_UT (VTS 0).
Reading VTS 1 IFO.
>>> Reading VTS 1 IFO.
Reading "D:/DVD Rip Folder/Originals/THE_BOURNE_ULTIMATUM/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO" (translation: binary, seek: 0)
Computing start and end addresses of the tables.
Extracting VTSI_MAT.
Extracting VTS_PTT_SRPT.
Extracting VTS_PGCI.
Extracting VTSM_PGCI_UT.
Extracting VTS_TMAPTI.
Extracting VTSM_C_ADT.
Extracting VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP.
Extracting VTS_C_ADT.
Extracting VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
Parsing VTS 1 IFO.
Parsing VTS_PGCI.
Parsing PGC 1
Found 1 pre, 0 post and 0 cell commands.
Found 21 cells in Cell playback table.
Found 21 cells in Cell position table
Parsing VTS_PTT_SRPT (VTS 1)
Processing TTU 1.
Parsing PGCI_UT (VTS 1).
Parsing VMG_TT_SRPT table.
Found 1 Titles.
Reading menu button informations in VOBs...
Scanning menu VOB of VTS 0...
Note: No Subpic stream in IFO
No Cells in menu domain
Scanning menu VOB of VTS 1...
Note: No Subpic stream in IFO
No Cells in menu domain
>>> Found a total of 0 menu buttons in menu domain.
DVD loaded OK.
>>> DVD Opened OK. 1 VTS loaded.
Scanning Title VOBs of VTS 1 for BOVs...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_1.VOB for BOVs: cell 1 (V/CID: 1/1, starting LBA: 0)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_1.VOB for BOVs: cell 2 (V/CID: 1/2, starting LBA: 79891)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_1.VOB for BOVs: cell 3 (V/CID: 1/3, starting LBA: 186809)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_1.VOB for BOVs: cell 4 (V/CID: 1/4, starting LBA: 272040)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_1.VOB for BOVs: cell 5 (V/CID: 1/5, starting LBA: 411771)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_2.VOB for BOVs: cell 6 (V/CID: 1/6, starting LBA: 553121)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_2.VOB for BOVs: cell 7 (V/CID: 1/7, starting LBA: 631033)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_2.VOB for BOVs: cell 8 (V/CID: 1/8, starting LBA: 779379)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_2.VOB for BOVs: cell 9 (V/CID: 1/9, starting LBA: 886144)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_2.VOB for BOVs: cell 10 (V/CID: 1/10, starting LBA: 1005352)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_3.VOB for BOVs: cell 11 (V/CID: 1/11, starting LBA: 1168395)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_3.VOB for BOVs: cell 12 (V/CID: 1/12, starting LBA: 1324354)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_3.VOB for BOVs: cell 13 (V/CID: 1/13, starting LBA: 1434625)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_3.VOB for BOVs: cell 14 (V/CID: 1/14, starting LBA: 1537541)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_4.VOB for BOVs: cell 15 (V/CID: 1/15, starting LBA: 1597586)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_4.VOB for BOVs: cell 16 (V/CID: 1/16, starting LBA: 1631074)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_4.VOB for BOVs: cell 17 (V/CID: 1/17, starting LBA: 1728370)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_4.VOB for BOVs: cell 18 (V/CID: 1/18, starting LBA: 1865097)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_4.VOB for BOVs: cell 19 (V/CID: 1/19, starting LBA: 1956229)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_4.VOB for BOVs: cell 20 (V/CID: 1/20, starting LBA: 2082535)...
>>> Scanning VTS_01_5.VOB for BOVs: cell 21 (V/CID: 1/21, starting LBA: 2172873)...
>>> DVD Opened OK. 1 VTS loaded. Found a total of 0 BOVs.
Reading "C:/Documents and Settings/Wombler/Application Data/PgcEdit/mru.cfg" (translation: auto, seek: 0)
Saving data to "C:/Documents and Settings/Wombler/Application Data/PgcEdit/mru.cfg" (mode: write).
Reading "C:/Documents and Settings/Wombler/Application Data/PgcEdit/mru.cfg" (translation: auto, seek: 0)
r0lZ
9th February 2008, 16:25
As I can see in step 5, the DVD is saved correctly, but PgcEdit crashes just after. Very strange, as the job is done, and it has only to refresh the interface.
Can you repeat the 5th test, but this time, use the Save option from the File menu. Don't use the toolbar. Is it an error message? Try also "Save IFOs as". Same thing?
Wombler
9th February 2008, 17:46
As I can see in step 5, the DVD is saved correctly, but PgcEdit crashes just after. Very strange, as the job is done, and it has only to refresh the interface.
Can you repeat the 5th test, but this time, use the Save option from the File menu. Don't use the toolbar. Is it an error message? Try also "Save IFOs as". Same thing?
Same result with save option from file menu.
Save IFOs option produces "IFOs saved OK" prompt and crashes in the same way as before.
Is the Windows crash report info any use in tracing this?
It says:-
AppName: pgcedit.exe AppVer: 8.6.0.1000 ModName: tcl1bb.tmp
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 00004c70
The detailed info is longer but I can extract that too if it would assist.
Wombler
jeanl
9th February 2008, 17:56
@Jeanl
I didn't realize MenuS fell victim, and that's ashame. I thought RI4M and FVTS were the only victims .... :(:(:(
EDIT: THX to you both for such GREAT tools ....;)
Thanks for the thanks! (you're welcome). Yes, they didn't show much discernment, but what do you expect....
Jean
picree
15th February 2008, 05:10
I'm having the same problems with crashing on close. Going back to 8.5. Win XP SP2. DVDShrink and PSL2plugins.
The preview pane is also behaving badly. In the left pane I mouse over a VTSM and right click on it. Recently in 8.5 and now in 8.6 in addition to the drop down menu I instantly get the DVD preview window coming up. I can't find any setting that would set this back to the way it was... where the preview only comes up when I click Preview.
No matter in 8.5. I would select "Menu Buttons". The Menu Button window would come up as the Preview window closed, I would edit the menu and move on. However, in both 8.5 and 8.6 after editing the Menu Buttons, I close the Menu Button window and behind the PGCEdit main window I find another Preview window hiding back behind there still opened.
Thinking it might be related to the crashes I tried editing a DVD without the Preview enabled but it still crashed.
blutach
15th February 2008, 07:26
If the preview is coming up on a trace, untick the preview box in the trace window.
Regards
r0lZ
15th February 2008, 12:19
You have the automatic preview enabled. Untick the box between the "PGC" button and the Play arrow, in the upper left corner of the main window, below the toolbar.
There are indeed two bugs in automatic preview mode. The preview should be closed when you open the menu viewer, and not opened at all when you right click on a PGC to call the popup menu. I'll fix that problems.
I am currently working on the crash bug during the save DVD operation, but it's not easy! And I can't promise that I will be able to fix it...
picree
15th February 2008, 13:07
THANK YOU!:):):)
I NEVER would have found that...eventhough it was staring right at me! I know it has a fly-over but that wasn't obvious to me...duh.
r0lZ
15th February 2008, 13:33
Sorry, there are many not obvious features in PgcEdit. I don't like that, but I try to implement all user requests, and PgcEdit is becoming more and more complex.
r0lZ
15th February 2008, 16:43
OK, with the help of Wombler, I have been able to locate the bug that causes PgcEdit to crash when the DVD is saved. It is (again!) due to bugs in the audio library of Tcl/Tk. When the DVD is saved, a dialog is normally shown (unless you have disabled it) to show the status of the save operation. This dialog produces a sound, and that sound causes the crash on some systems.
I might remove completely the sounds, but I'm still not sure, as they work correctly on most systems. Anyway, in the meantime, just select Options -> User Interface -> Play Sounds with Yes/No/Cancel Dialog Boxes -> No Sound (or Default Bell. The bell doesn't use the same library and works fine.)
That should fix the problem. If that doesn't work, please let me know.
Wombler
15th February 2008, 18:11
For what it's worth, I'd just like to publicly say a big thank you to r0lZ for his tireless efforts.
There's been a constant stream of PMs going backwards and forwards since this problem was first reported and this level of dedication deserves public recognition.
Thanks r0lZ! :cool::cool::cool:
Wombler
frank
15th February 2008, 19:16
@rOlZ
Please make the colour of progess bar on the bottom (Rebuild time map, backup ...) somewhat darker - maybe green.
It's hard to see on a LCD. Because this operations slow down the performance of PgcEdit its very important to see it.
r0lZ
15th February 2008, 19:38
OK, I've changed the color to pure yellow instead of light yellow. Is it OK for you?
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9617/progressbarim2.png (http://imageshack.us?s=1)
blutach
16th February 2008, 00:23
We should have an option on the colour!!!! (J/K)
Regards
frank
18th February 2008, 10:28
OK, I've changed the color to pure yellow instead of light yellow. Is it OK for you?
Yea, thanks! I can live with it.
ron spencer
22nd February 2008, 04:51
thanks for your work rolz....I always love seeing your updates.....superb.
Dunno what other features you could add though
thanks!!!
ron spencer
22nd February 2008, 15:40
the errors mentioned a few posts up....they don't affect the general operation of pgcedit do they?
r0lZ
22nd February 2008, 17:08
The automatic preview bugs are only annoyances for the user, but nothing else.
The audio bug, if it happens on your PC, happens whenever a Yes/No/Cancel dialog is shown and the audio is played. That could have some effects, especially if it happens when you save the DVD, but in the case reported above, it happens after the DVD is successfully saved (although maybe the user comments and GPRM labels are lost, I don't know.) Anyway, if you have not noticed that bug yet, it should never happen on your PC.
Nothing to worry about.
I will probably release a new version soon, with the fixes, and some nice improvements...
ron spencer
22nd February 2008, 22:40
ok thanks!!!
roux
5th March 2008, 23:54
Quick question what does the yellow seamless joint flag mean?
The tooltip says "should probably be clear after a gap between cells".
r0lZ
6th March 2008, 00:04
When two cells are not contiguous, the player needs some time to go from the first cell to the next one. The seamless flag should be clear to allow this little pause in the playback. However, if the gap is short enough and the muxing appropriate, the seamless flag can be set. Hence the yellow color, meaning warning.
(BTW, the next version of PgcEdit will also highlight the seamless box in yellow in the opposite case : when there is no gaps between the cells, but the flag is not set. This is normal at the layer break position, but can be an error elsewhere.)
selyb
7th March 2008, 06:24
Request:
I would like it if CallSS could be converted to JumpSS when copying/pasting between domains and vice/versa
e.g. When I copy CallSS-VMGM-pgc from a title and paste to a menu, it is now an illegal command and highlights in red
then I change it to JumpSS-VMGM-pgc and I dont have to change the pgc number because it is already in the right place
I guess what I'm asking is for a check to be done to make sure the CallSS is set to resume cell 1 and if pasting to a menu then change it to JumpSS
Also, if pasting a JumpSS to a title domain then convert it to CallSS with resume cell 1
I suppose if this is really low priority, I could figure it out myself and post the code changes/additions
There should probably be an option to turn this on/off next to the Highlight Errors option
Request: Move options for Trace Mode and Preview to Options Menu instead of being under their respective menus
Request: change option text "Hide toolbars in Trace Mode?" to "Hide toolbars/statusbar in Trace Mode?"
Request: change behavior of option "Start in Trace Mode (when a DVD is opened at startup)" to start in trace mode when a DVD is opened
IIRC, I once ran into some bug where I lost some functionality or buttons or something like that when I opened PGCEdit and later opened the DVD and I had this option checked... It's hard to say now and I can't reproduce the bug...
Anyway, I think it would be more fitting if PGCEdit can be in trace mode without a DVD open or if it goes to trace mode when a DVD is opened instead of only checking when PGCEdit is opened
blutach
7th March 2008, 09:56
You are reading r0lZ's mind selyb - the CallSS/JumpSS swap will be implemented in the next version.
Regards
r0lZ
7th March 2008, 09:58
Request:
I would like it if CallSS could be converted to JumpSS when copying/pasting between domains and vice/versa
Funny, I just did it... yesterday!
However, I force the resume cell to 1 only when a JumpSS is converted to CallSS, but I don't change it when a CallSS is simply pasted.
IMO, there is no need for an option to turn this off, as, indeed, it doesn't make sense to use a Call when a Jump is needed, and vice versa.
Request: Move options for Trace Mode and Preview to Options Menu instead of being under their respective menusHum, maybe. Not sure I'll do it. Currently, the option menu contains all global parameters, and the parameters of the functions that do not have their own menu or config dialog. I think it is easier to have the setup next to the function itself when it's possible.
Request: change option text "Hide toolbars in Trace Mode?" to "Hide toolbars/statusbar in Trace Mode?" OK.
Request: change behavior of option "Start in Trace Mode (when a DVD is opened at startup)" to start in trace mode when a DVD is opened
IIRC, I once ran into some bug where I lost some functionality or buttons or something like that when I opened PGCEdit and later opened the DVD and I had this option checked... It's hard to say now and I can't reproduce the bug...
Anyway, I think it would be more fitting if PGCEdit can be in trace mode without a DVD open or if it goes to trace mode when a DVD is opened instead of only checking when PGCEdit is openedWell, I will not do that. I have accepted to add this option to start in trace mode, but I should have refused. Due to its nature, trace mode is constantly monitoring some things, just like a real player, and that causes many conflicts with the other functions of PgcEdit. I have finally something that works, but it is very dangerous to modify it again. Sorry. Anyway, the trace mode requires a complete and valid DVD structure loaded in memory to work, so I cannot open it when there is no DVD loaded yet.
roux
8th March 2008, 15:05
When two cells are not contiguous, the player needs some time to go from the first cell to the next one. The seamless flag should be clear to allow this little pause in the playback. However, if the gap is short enough and the muxing appropriate, the seamless flag can be set. Hence the yellow color, meaning warning.
(BTW, the next version of PgcEdit will also highlight the seamless box in yellow in the opposite case : when there is no gaps between the cells, but the flag is not set. This is normal at the layer break position, but can be an error elsewhere.)
Does that also mean those cells don't have the same VOBID? From what i've seen each time two cells are not contiguous they have different VOBID's. I always mark those cells as "10" in PgcEdit, seamless and STC discontinuity.
For example i'm processing American Gangster R2 and this disc has both the theatrical and unrated versions. The disc is constructed like most seamless branching titles;
VTS1 PGC1 = unrated version
VTS2 PGC2 = theatrical version
I've hid all cells from PGC2 with DvdReMake and exported the disc. Looking at PGC1 then with PgcEdit shows the following figure:
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6305/77925012am7.jpg
DRM marks all cells with different VOBID's as a "10". PgcEdit gives a warning about several cells, but it does not warn about cells with an ascending VOBID, e.g. cell 5 and 6.
My dvd player pauses for about half a second on the cells were PgcEdit warns about. So i was wondering if i'm (DRM output) correct at setting the cell flags like this or is the gap between cells just too big like you explained in your post?
r0lZ
8th March 2008, 17:50
Well, difficult to be sure, as the muxing itself has to be seamless. But, since the original DVD uses seamless branching, I suppose the cells are seamless. So, IMO, you can safely set the seamless flag. Anyway, most players are OK with that flag set (including at the layer break position), even if the flag should be clear.
Not sure why your player pauses, but, to get rid of the cells of PGC 2, it is better to remove them completely, instead of replacing them with blank cells. This way, the remaining cells will be contiguous, the seamless flag can almost certainly be set, and the player should really play the cells seamlessly. However, that might be difficult to do if there are chapters containing only removed cells, as you will be forced to shift the chapter points.
BTW, PgcEdit sets the warning when there are gaps, not when the VOB ID changes. A change in VOB ID doesn't mean that the cells are not seamless.
The STC discontinuity flag must be set when the VOB ID changes, that's correct. So, IMO, using 10 (seamless + STC discontinuity) is a good choice, but the presence of the blanked cells ruins the advantage of the seamless joints.
blutach
9th March 2008, 00:54
I don't see how any of those cells can be seamless except 5-6. It is correct to have STC discont set on each of them, though.
Regards
r0lZ
9th March 2008, 06:51
The gaps between the cells are so small that the jump could be seamless, but I think it is not because the replacing cells are not muxed seamlessly.
AlienX69
18th March 2008, 03:26
Hello to ALL,
r0lZ,
When selecting "Clear jump to void PGC's", I get the following on the Bee Movie (R1):
#########################################
list index out of range
list index out of range
while executing
"lset cmds [expr [lindex $src 5]-1] {00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00}"
("pgcs" arm line 3)
invoked from within
"switch [lindex $src 0] {
"menus" {
set cmds [get_type_cmds [lindex $src 4] ::menus([lindex $src 1],[lindex $src 2],[lindex $src 3])]
..."
(procedure "::utils::clear_jumps_to_void_pgcs" line 43)
invoked from within
"::utils::clear_jumps_to_void_pgcs"
(menu invoke)
##########################################
I did make a successful backup, no worries, I just ignored.
Just thought I would post this, I will send you the orig and modified IFO's (didn't modify much on this one). If you don't need them just toss in the virtual garbage !!!
AX
r0lZ
18th March 2008, 08:57
Thanks! I'll have a look.
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