Oh Where, Oh Where Have My Subtitles Gone...

[iMaverick]

Just installed DVD2SVCD 1.0.5b3, now with the elimination of I-Author, my standalone Apex AD-600A doesn't recognize the subtitles in the motion picture. I've tried using the options for SVCD subtitles as well as CVD option with no luck. Never had any problems when I-Author created them. Any suggestions? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[boundone]

Hi,

just wanted to add that I have the same problem with my Grundig GDV 130 (this is a SCAN 2000 clone). Any pointer is appreciated!

boundone

[dvd2svcd]

Yeah, there's a bug in build 3 :( A release is comming up.

[boundone]

great news! thanks for your excellent work!
dvd2svcd is an amazing piece of software, every time
I watch a movie converted with that tool I can't believe
that this is not DVD: subtitles, 2 audio tracks ...

Great, your work is greatly appreciated!

boundone
PS: sorry, I just had to say this one more time!

[iMaverick]

I have to agree, boundone, DVD2SVCD rocks, and 1.0.5b3 is the best yet... It seems to be more efficient and quicker without my computer acting like it has alzheimer's disease, :D I'm sure that the subtitle bug is a minor glitch...More power to ya' DVD2SVCD! Any other software to yours is comparing apples to oranges. I can still imagine what it would take if I was to try to do every step manually to produce the quality SVCDs that your program incorporates! This is definitely something to be thankful for!

[CrazyPortuguese]

Yeah its really great :) Its a pety that there aren't 1.3 GB cd-rom's since the only negative aspect is to have to change cd's :)

[iMaverick]

Well, that's where the new DVD-Rs come in records up to 4.7 gigs, still pretty costly and requires the use of DVD recorders, but we just won't go there just yet...but who knows what the future has to hold :D :D :D

[CrazyPortuguese]

:) Yeah the problem is the cost of the dvd-rw for now they are more expensive tham a dvd movie :) and have half the size :( :) Don't know why they make them so expensive :( anything above 5USD is way too expensive and just not no mention the cost of the recorders.

[Mozart]

does anybody here remembers how expensive were cd-r media and recorders 5 years ago(question - my question key is broken:D )

Nowadays they are cheap just because there are millions of guys using it. Surely, when one of those two specs of recordable dvd (dvd-r and dvd+r) win, there will be much more people using recordable dvd and, thus, they will be realy cheap.

btw: I almost forgot it: the decrease of prices will need the colaboration of chinese market, also.

[Mozart]

@dvd2svcd

it seems that build 2 have no bug in subtitles muxing. However, if we paste the command line, the message "error muxing bla bla, skiping bla bla" is showed in the command prompt. But, when I copy submux.exe into the folder of work - movie folder - and use command line to this copied programm, it works fine.

edit: forget about it. I just read the "subs blue" thread.

[CrazyPortuguese]

Yes I remember here in Portugal 5 years ago, about the same time I boght my cd-r ( a 2x JVC ) I found them at 3-4 USD of course there were people selling them at 7 USD but that was the maximum that I found and it was from TDK right now the dvd-r that I found cost about 20 USD wich is way more expensive when compared to the 3-4 USD or even the 7USD. And you must remember that a cd-rom is 444 biger tham a floppy disk , when a dvd is only 6 times biger tham a 650 MB cd-rom and that a cd-r.

[iMaverick]

At this point and time, I would only find use for DVD RE-recordables (that is, if I did own a DVD-RW drive) to store DVD2SVCD files created, say for unfinished projects rather than to clutter hard drive space which in addition fragments your hard drive. I'm sure I'm not the only one who takes great measures to try and keep their PCs efficient and clutter free since we need all that space to rip vob files to our hard drives ;). An added benefit which still amazes me is that this is removable media which is the next step away from our dependence to our hard drives to store massive amounts of data. Though hard drives are considerably cheaper now and still has faster data exchange and retrieval compared to the DVD-RW drive (I know, duh! :rolleyes: ), anyone owning a DVD-RW drive still ends up ahead in the sense that you can own a whole shelf full of DVD re-recordable discs which is like keeping a "server" full of data heaped on one corner of your bookshelf! :D :D Guess what I wish I had for Christmas this year??? Hoping that these babies will slash itself in half by next Christmas. DVD standalones were rather quick to do this. I'm not so sure that DVD-rw drives will happen this way since it'll take a lot of business out of hard drives. But who knows in this world of wacky commerce!

[Mozart]

Originally posted by CrazyPortuguese
Yes I remember here in Portugal 5 years ago, about the same time I bought my cd-r ( a 2x JVC ) I found them at 3-4 USD (...) right now the dvd-r that I found cost about 20 USD (...) a dvd is only 6 times bigger than a 650 MB cd-rom (...)

Actually a DVD-R has 4482.27 MB, being 6.90 times bigger than a 650 MB CD-R. If its price is USD 20.00 - you can find it by USD 5.00 in USA - this means almost 20.00/6.90 = USD 2.90 per CD size. Thus, today a DVD-R is cheaper than a CD-R was 5 years ago.:cool:

I guess Philips format (DVD+R(W)) will win, and in 2004 everybody will buy DVD+RW writers instead of CD-R writers.

[CrazyPortuguese]

Well you comparing prices in Portugal of the cd-r and prices in the usa of the DVD-R. Here in Portugal, and I think most parts of Europe the prices are like that. Just like in dvd movies, here in Portugal the average price of dvd movie is between 20-25 USD, is this what made the european Uninion start and investigation on the dvd regions protection has a way to prevent people from buing cheaper in other parts of the world, wich is ilegal and could lead to economic sanctions to major companys. With this I'm not saying that dvd-r won't win. What I say is that it's taking too long for prices to drop and that companys set prices for Europe a lot higher tham to USA.

[Mozart]

Err... I guess you misuderstood me...

Originally posted by Mozart


Actually a DVD-R has 4482.27 MB, being 6.90 times bigger than a 650 MB CD-R. If its price is USD 20.00 (...), this means almost 20.00/6.90 = USD 2.90 per CD size. Thus, today a DVD-R is cheaper than a CD-R was 5 years ago.:cool:


As you can see, I'm not comparing prices of European CD's with American DVD's. I'm comparing "price per file size" of DVD-R (today) and CD-R (5 years ago), both of the same place (Portugal).

When I said this,
(...)- you can find it by USD 5.00 in USA -(...) it was just to remember you that it can be cheaper than it is in Europe. This price was not used in my comparison.

[CrazyPortuguese]

Right now the cheapest 80 minut cd-r I can get costs 0,17USD while the 4482.27 MB dvd-r costs 17 dolars( found a cheaper one) wich is 100 times more.
well since the sise if the dvd is 4482.27 MB and the 80 mintus cd 700mB this means, has you have told, that (4482,27:700) a dvd-r is about 6.4 biger (using a 700 MB cd) , now lets check the cost per 700 MB of the dvd-r 17/6,4=2,65 USD and now lets see how this compares to a cd-r price
2,65:0,17=15,625
Wich means that the costs per 700 MB is 15,625 biger in a dvd-r tham a cd-r don't you think its a big diference ?

Now lets make the same when compared to floppy disk 5 years ago
I buyed a cd-r for about 5 USD a floppy disk I don't remember very well but it was about 50cents, a 650 MB cd-r is about 451 times biger ( 650:1,44 )tham a floppy disk, now lets check the price per 1,44 MB, 5USD/451=0,0110USD, now take you conclusions a floppy disk, even in the begining of the cd-r, was a lot more expensive per 1.44 tham the cd-r, when with the dvd is the other way arround. My objective with this is to compared the price of the cd-r with the previouse storage device and the same with dvd-r.

[Mozart]

Sorry guys... I guess my english is very poor to be understandable by another Portuguese speaker... , because of this, I will rewrite my statements in Portuguese:D

Para Português louco,

Minha comparação entre preços atuais de DVDr e preços de CDr de cinco anos atrás chama a atenção para os seguintes aspectos:

a) é inadequado comparar os preços de uma mídia óptica nova e ainda muito pouco popular - como é o caso do DVDr - com outra mais antiga e muitíssimo utilizada em todo o planeta - que é o caso do CD-r. Esta última é então beneficiada pela grande concorrência entre fabricantes de todo o mundo, aqui incluídas as Chinas Insular e Continental, o que faz com que seus preços se submetam à bendita lei de oferta do mercado;

b) considerando o exposto em (a), seria mais justo comparar seus preços submetendo ambas às mesmas condições de mercado. Isto se dá por meio da comparação dos custos do DVDr nos dias de hoje com os do CDr de 5 anos atrás. Naquela época, os CDr eram tão pouco populares quanto os DVDr o são hoje em dia;

Baseando-se no exposto acima, pode-se concluir que o DVDr para uso popular, quando comparado ao CDr, já nasceu mais barato. O resto é apenas uma questão de tempo.

A propósito: os disquetes (floppy discs) não são mídia óptica. Seu processo de fabricação e os materiais utilizados são muitíssimo diferentes quando comparados ao CDr. Sendo assim, em minha opinião não se justifica os utilizar na nossa análise. Fui claro?

[barbas]

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Que discussão tão parva!

Barbas

[m3taPT]

Barbas is right... cut the .pt here

[CrazyPortuguese]

Bem tanto ppl a falar em Português :)

[m3taPT]

.pt takeover :)