BackupHDDVD (C# Port)

[ballenjr]

Emon,

Yes I tried to turn it off from the title menu, but this didn't work. Also used the button on the PDVD control panel but that just scrolls through all the different subtitles and doesn't allow me to turn them off.

I'm probably going to try 7.1 unless somebody else has a quick fix.

Thanks Emon

[jokin]

Emon,

Also used the button on the PDVD control panel but that just scrolls through all the different subtitles and doesn't allow me to turn them off.


Did you try clicking the subtitle that was currently turned on?

[Momotte]

I do not think we should modify the .XPL file (or at least you should make sure that you keep the original somewhere). If there are some problems in the players, they should be fixed with a patch sometime soon...

[Galileo2000]

Have you tried to turn off the subs from the Title Menu?


I've tried it w/ 7.1, and it works just fine, like in the original :D

[Exiton]

ballenjr: I've got the same sub problem with Swordfish where you can't turn them off. No title menu.

[ballenjr]

Did you try clicking the subtitle that was currently turned on?

Not quite sure how to do this, please explain.

I did press the U button on the keyboard to toggle around all of the different subs, but there was always some kind of sub being displayed.

Exiton: What software are you using?

[Founditalso]

Not quite sure how to do this, please explain.

I did press the U button on the keyboard to toggle around all of the different subs, but there was always some kind of sub being displayed.

Exiton: What software are you using?

I believe it is a problem with the PDVD player software itself (in some posts you will see other people mentioning this also). It has nothing to do with the Emon (or Zotty) application.
I have it also with the original disc (i.e. before making the Backup). Have you tried to play back with the disc and turn of the subtitles? With me it does not work for certain discs (like e.g. Jarhead).
I use PDVD 7.1.

[bhain333]

Emon, What all do you have to edit to add a movie to this software. I added it to KEYDB.cfg and it worked fine on the movie but the menu piece says there is no title key. Any thoughts?

This is what I added

AB921D3E065824B984F431324FC08A113A823205=Space Cowboys |V|07/26/06| B8BA69EEA2CF91C45132CED581D51FAA

[Loco Lobo]

@ Emon

great work you did on the latest version. For me it was the fastest one yet. Took me 55 min to back up M:I 3.
Using PDVD 6.5 I open HD-DVD from hard drive and the menu pops up where to select the languages. But selecting one language does not do anything. And I can`t get out of the menu. What am I doing wrong?
I changed the xml afterwards, deleted all I did not want and it worked fine.

Anyways, thanks for that great tool.:D

[Emon]

Working on a complete re-write. Everything in one single exe with IME fix, progress bar, new keydb format with frontend etc etc. :)

[ballenjr]

Working on a complete re-write. Everything in one single exe with IME fix, progress bar, new keydb format with frontend etc etc. :)

Fantastic...

BTW I got the the subtitles off of Casino upgrading to 7.1.

Now a new problem with The Matador. Just used your program and when I try to play through PDVD7.1 I get a message that the movie is unable to play due to parental settings.
I can't seem to find any parental settings in 7.1
Edit: The player won't even play the original disc, so it is definately not a problem with you program.

[bullet_ballet]

I used this program to decrypt Unforgiven. However, when I try and play certain EVOs in WinDVD8 or the entire folder in PDVD 6.5 all I get is a black screen for the feature movie and various special features. In PDVD I get audio during the blank screen. The .xpl looks good; no references to AACS or any thing of that nature. I didn't seen anything in any of the other threads I read through that might fix it, or else I just missed any pertinent information. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

[Loco Lobo]

I used this program to decrypt Unforgiven. However, when I try and play certain EVOs in WinDVD8 or the entire folder in PDVD 6.5 all I get is a black screen for the feature movie and various special features. In PDVD I get audio during the blank screen. The .xpl looks good; no references to AACS or any thing of that nature. I didn't seen anything in any of the other threads I read through that might fix it, or else I just missed any pertinent information. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Black screen during playback points to a bad decryption. That`s what was said somewhere in the original thread. Maybe you should start looking for the problem at this end.
I had the same issue the first time I did KK. But especially with EMON`s tool it works great. :)

cheers

[Oleg_Jdev]

2 Emon:
When I clicked the button "Reconstruct menu" in the process of decrypting, and after I closed program the decrypting proccess was not stopped and the process BackupHDDVD.exe left hanging in the memory.
Maybe disable button "Reconstruct Menu" during the decrypting ?

Edit:
Another. Your program uses cfg format, while aca_decrypter - xml ? But it is not convenient.

IMHO.

[casio7131]

It's really annoying that people keep on posting stupid comments like this. Your decrypting time is going to be 95% based on the speed of the HD-DVD drive, so how efficient java vs C/C++/C# is makes absolutely no difference. And even if it did make any difference, if you do any actual benchmarks java is just as fast. All that really matters is how bug-free and easy to read the code is, which java is perfect for.

but we still continue to get the same comment for the umpteenth time:

remove the java version from this and the key.cfg, lets just keep c# and .xml.

[JeffAlso]

I used this program to decrypt Unforgiven. However, when I try and play certain EVOs in WinDVD8 or the entire folder in PDVD 6.5 all I get is a black screen for the feature movie and various special features. In PDVD I get audio during the blank screen. The .xpl looks good; no references to AACS or any thing of that nature. I didn't seen anything in any of the other threads I read through that might fix it, or else I just missed any pertinent information. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I have a similiar problem, although I suspect the reason is that I dont have a video card with an HDMI output on it. The following was observed on the King Kong disk that came with the XBox HD DVD drive:

WinDVD8 simply refuses to play the encrypted disk at all, so unfortunately I can't locate any keys myself. PDVD6.5 will play the disk for a few seconds, but then stop with the error "This content is protected and this system in not able to play back this content."

After ripping the disk with BackuoHDDVDGUI to the hard drive, PDVD6.5 will play the disk, but the feature is an entirely black screen. The Audio works fine.

However, playing the decrypted 'Feature_1.evo' using the Sonic HD Demuxer and Sonic Cinemaster Video Decoder 4.1 in Graphedit will play the video just fine, only theres no seeking (I recall something about the Sonic HD Demuxer not preserving timestamps or such). I havent tried the new Elecard demuxer filter yet.

I've read that PDVD6.5 should work on decrypted disks, but it does not. My assumption is that in order for me to play the decrypted movie, it either needs its HDMI flag removed during decryption, or it will need to be muxed into a different container that plays using filters that ignore the flag. Or I could buy a new video card, but I'm one of those guys with the older $3000 HDTV that only has component inputs...

Am I missing something here, or is this pretty much where I'm at??

[Emon]

2 Emon:
When I clicked the button "Reconstruct menu" in the process of decrypting, and after I closed program the decrypting proccess was not stopped and the process BackupHDDVD.exe left hanging in the memory.
Maybe disable button "Reconstruct Menu" during the decrypting ?

Edit:
Another. Your program uses cfg format, while aca_decrypter - xml ? But it is not convenient.

IMHO.

Good idea .. will disable the "Reconstruct Menu" during the decryption.

plain text cfg vs. xml cfg war .. I know I know .. I am working on that.

[t00ld00d]

I have a similiar problem, although I suspect the reason is that I dont have a video card with an HDMI output on it. The following was observed on the King Kong disk that came with the XBox HD DVD drive:

WinDVD8 simply refuses to play the encrypted disk at all, so unfortunately I can't locate any keys myself. PDVD6.5 will play the disk for a few seconds, but then stop with the error "This content is protected and this system in not able to play back this content."

After ripping the disk with BackuoHDDVDGUI to the hard drive, PDVD6.5 will play the disk, but the feature is an entirely black screen. The Audio works fine.

However, playing the decrypted 'Feature_1.evo' using the Sonic HD Demuxer and Sonic Cinemaster Video Decoder 4.1 in Graphedit will play the video just fine, only theres no seeking (I recall something about the Sonic HD Demuxer not preserving timestamps or such). I havent tried the new Elecard demuxer filter yet.

I've read that PDVD6.5 should work on decrypted disks, but it does not. My assumption is that in order for me to play the decrypted movie, it either needs its HDMI flag removed during decryption, or it will need to be muxed into a different container that plays using filters that ignore the flag. Or I could buy a new video card, but I'm one of those guys with the older $3000 HDTV that only has component inputs...

Am I missing something here, or is this pretty much where I'm at??


The HDCP restrictions should be removed during decryption. You may just need to update the drivers for your video card. PDVD 7.1 won't play anything back from my xb360 drive due to the HDCP thing. After ripping to HDD and playing it PDVD gave me a warning about video drivers. After upgrading the drivers it works great even though I'm only using a 6600GT (definitely not HDMI capable). If you have an Nvidia card try upgrading to 92.91 drivers. The 92.91 gave me some funky color issues so I found an even later beta version at guru3d that worked great.

[He-Man]

The HDMI restrictions should be removed during decryption. You may just need to update the drivers for your video card. PDVD 7.1 won't play anything back from my xb360 drive due to the HDMI thing. After ripping to HDD and playing it PDVD gave me a warning about video drivers. After upgrading the drivers it works great even though I'm only using a 6600GT (definitely not HDMI capable). If you have an Nvidia card try upgrading to 92.91 drivers. The 92.91 gave me some funky color issues so I found an even later beta version at guru3d that worked great.
You must mean HDCP where you wrote HDMI. HDMI is an interface standard like DVI, while HDCP is content protection primarly used toghter with HDMI interfaces.
It doesn´t really matter if you use an HDMI socket or DVI socket, what matters with content protected video is if the output you use is HDCP capable or not and if the monitor/TV supports HDCP too.

[t00ld00d]

Doh! You're right, strike HDMI and insert HDCP. Editing now.

[ROBSCIX]

Is there a backup procedure written down anywhere? I am reading through all the info but theres alot to read. Thx for the help. Nice app BTW.

[bullet_ballet]

Is there a backup procedure written down anywhere? I am reading through all the info but theres alot to read. Thx for the help. Nice app BTW.

It's super easy. After downloading the app make sure you have MS .Net 2 (or maybe 3?). Then just run the C# exe and choose your HD-DVD drive and the folder you want to backup to (can't miss those two fields). Next, click on the Database tab and select your movie from the list. Once that is done, return to the Backup tab and click "Start Backup". When that is completed (Unforgiven took me an hour) click on "Reconstruct Menu". Once that finishes your backup is complete.

Now, if your movie isn't in the current database you'll have to look online for the Volume Key of the disc and the SHA1 hash. Worst case you try and run the disc in WinDVD8 or PDVD. Unless you have some expensive gear it'll probably fail, but so long as it even tries to play a frame you should be able to use "hddvd_vukeyfinder" afterwards to get the Volume Key. I'm not sure how to get the SHA1 hash, though. Provided you get those two you can enter them in and then backup the disc as noted above.

EDIT
I should note that the vukeyfinder can be obtained from this thread with instructions:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=938244#post938244

[Emon]

I'm not sure how to get the SHA1 hash, though.

Just try to backup a disc even if it's not in the database. You will see the disc hash displayed in the status window.

[guile]

While I LOVE this program, I am having some mixed results and am wondering if it is the player. So far, the ONLY working HD-DVD with menus I have made is Harry Potter. This works from intro to movie to end. I have made several other's that refuse to work. (Goodfellas, Corpse Bride and V for Vendetta).

As Vendetta is the only one out of those 3 with IME, I thought it would work as the "fix" was implemented into 0.5, no such luck. It would play the whvlogo and then the player would just stop. This also happens on Corpse and Goodfellas.

Any ideas? I'm using Powerdvd 6.5 btw.

[Emon]

While I LOVE this program, I am having some mixed results and am wondering if it is the player. So far, the ONLY working HD-DVD with menus I have made is Harry Potter. This works from intro to movie to end. I have made several other's that refuse to work. (Goodfellas, Corpse Bride and V for Vendetta).

As Vendetta is the only one out of those 3 with IME, I thought it would work as the "fix" was implemented into 0.5, no such luck. It would play the whvlogo and then the player would just stop. This also happens on Corpse and Goodfellas.

Any ideas? I'm using Powerdvd 6.5 btw.

its so far kind of hit or miss. I have same problem with Lady in the Water and couldn't figure out why the menu didn't work for this movie. The Movie did play from the HD once I removed the "PlaylistApplication" tag from the .XPL file. This tag is basically the menu so once I removed it the movie just played fine without a menu.

So my recommendation would be to remove that tag if you just want to play the movie. We just have to wait until someone (maybe it would be me :D) figures out whats the issue with these menus.

[Galileo2000]

While I LOVE this program, I am having some mixed results and am wondering if it is the player. So far, the ONLY working HD-DVD with menus I have made is Harry Potter. This works from intro to movie to end. I have made several other's that refuse to work. (Goodfellas, Corpse Bride and V for Vendetta).

As Vendetta is the only one out of those 3 with IME, I thought it would work as the "fix" was implemented into 0.5, no such luck. It would play the whvlogo and then the player would just stop. This also happens on Corpse and Goodfellas.

Any ideas? I'm using Powerdvd 6.5 btw.

I just made a backup for V and Serenity without any problems, menus are there.

I have subtitles in Serenity being on by default after decrypting, just like in KK, but there are two ways to deal with this.

Other than that, everything is just perfect, thank you again Emon.

Waiting for three more titles to arrive.

I am using 7.1 now.

[guile]

its so far kind of hit or miss. I have same problem with Lady in the Water and couldn't figure out why the menu didn't work for this movie. The Movie did play from the HD once I removed the "PlaylistApplication" tag from the .XPL file. This tag is basically the menu so once I removed it the movie just played fine without a menu.

So my recommendation would be to remove that tag if you just want to play the movie. We just have to wait until someone (maybe it would be me :D) figures out whats the issue with these menus.

Ok, at least it's not me:D

I did edit the xpl file and could get it working. I did a reconstruct on the menu, and deleted "PlaylistApplication" tag from the xpl and it also works.

[guile]

I just made a backup for V and Serenity without any problems, menus are there.

I have subtitles in Serenity being on by default after decrypting, just like in KK, but there are two ways to deal with this.

Other than that, everything is just perfect, thank you again Emon.

Waiting for three more titles to arrive.

I am using 7.1 now.

I tried 7.1 and got the fullscreen problem attributed to Nvidia 90.xx drivers. I will just stick with 6.5 for the moment.

[bhain333]

Good piece of software. Are ou going to make any more releases?

[Emon]

Good piece of software. Are ou going to make any more releases?

Sure .. why not. Working on few ideas. It will be out when its ready.

[Exiton]

Keep up the good work Emon!

[hd1080p]

On the other thread on Processing and Media Key being found.
I wonder whether you can use the new information to make your program work better. Please comment on the significance of the new findings.
Keep up the good work.:thanks:
Sure .. why not. Working on few ideas. It will be out when its ready.

[applejackaz]

Great program, was working until V For Vendetta. Program crashes after "Now decrypting aca menu - ***Starting logfile***
At that point Vista shuts it down. Movie seems to work just fine anyway.

[Electrox3d]

Is this GUI for vista only? I opened the exe in my XP machine and it immidiately crashes. Do I have to have a HD-DVD drive for it to even open?

[melakai]

Is this GUI for vista only? I opened the exe in my XP machine and it immidiately crashes. Do I have to have a HD-DVD drive for it to even open?

I used version 3 on XP32 just fine.

[FoxDisc]

On the other thread on Processing and Media Key being found.I wonder whether you can use the new information to make your program work better. Please comment on the significance of the new findings.

The Processing Key from the other thread should allow a program like this to decrypt the Title Key/Volume Unique Key on the disc without refernce to the key database. It could then compare that key to the key in the key database and:

if they are the same, use it,

if they are different, tell the user and let him try either one. This probably means the database is wrong, but might mean the processing key does not work for every disc as currently believed or that the MKBs on the discs have been changed to break the processing key, and

if there is no key in the key database, upload the key or tell the user and let him upload it.

[sjchmura]

Quick and easy....

Unless you have an HDCP compliant graphics card, one should use PowerDVD 6.5 and NOT 7.2 for playback of EVO rips - correct?

Second, purchasing 7.2 or their MCE plugin pack will NOT allow MCE to see the rips and play them - correct?

[Emon]

The Processing Key from the other thread should allow a program like this to decrypt the Title Key/Volume Unique Key on the disc without refernce to the key database. It could then compare that key to the key in the key database and:

if they are the same, use it,

if they are different, tell the user and let him try either one. This probably means the database is wrong, but might mean the processing key does not work for every disc as currently believed or that the MKBs on the discs have been changed to break the processing key, and

if there is no key in the key database, upload the key or tell the user and let him upload it.

Thats a very good idea. I think it has been answered before and also it should be in the spec. but I am going to ask here anyway .. what is the function to calculate the vuk if you have the processing key and the MKB?

[Emon]

Is this GUI for vista only? I opened the exe in my XP machine and it immidiately crashes. Do I have to have a HD-DVD drive for it to even open?

It probably crashed because you do not have .NET 2.0 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en) installed.

[Emon]

Quick and easy....

Unless you have an HDCP compliant graphics card, one should use PowerDVD 6.5 and NOT 7.2 for playback of EVO rips - correct?

Second, purchasing 7.2 or their MCE plugin pack will NOT allow MCE to see the rips and play them - correct?

I couldn't get PDVD 7.1/7.2 to work in Vista also in XP MCE. In both OS it complained about my gfx card driver. So I can only test the playback in PDVD 6.5.

[FoxDisc]

Thats a very good idea. I think it has been answered before and also it should be in the spec. but I am going to ask here anyway .. what is the function to calculate the vuk if you have the processing key and the MKB?

I'll start you off:
Section 3.2.4 of Introduction and Common Cryptographic Elements:

Once the device has the correct Device Key D, it calculates a Processing Key K using AES-G3 as described
above. Using that Processing Key K and the appropriate 16 bytes of encrypted key data C, the device calculates
the 128-bit Media Key Km as follows:
Km = AES-128D(K, C) ⊕ (00000000000000000000000016 || uv)
The appropriate encrypted key data C is found in the Media Key Data Record in the Media Key Block.

That gets you to the Media Key. It's in the specs how to get from there via the Volume ID to the Volume Unique Key and the Title Key.

[Emon]

0.6 is out .. http://www.sendspace.com/file/lmjh19

Uses a XML keydb format
Option to convert keydb.cfg to keydb.xml
Incorporated cwm9's UnACA to reconstruct menus (sorry Zotty :) )
Removed java engine.

[Oleg_Jdev]

2 Emon:
Why did you remove Zotty's Aca_decrypter ?
Did it contain errors ?

[hajj_3]

i know its minor, but please can you remove the dialog box asking you if you want to close the program.

cheers.

p.s the program looks very nice. how come there is a non-gui .exe file, shouldnt that be removed now?

[Galileo2000]

Excellent job Emon!! :D

Couple of suggestions from the UI prospective:

- progress indicated as %% somewhere, preferably on top of the app;
- After backup is done, dialog box "Do you want to reconstruct menus now?" with "OK" & "Cancel" or "Yes" & "No" would be nice to have.

Why do I need AnyDVD when I have this little wonder? :D

[Emon]

2 Emon:
Why did you remove Zotty's Aca_decrypter ?
Did it contain errors ?

No errors. cwm9's UnACA is in C#. So it was easy enough for me to incorporate his work into my app.

i know its minor, but please can you remove the dialog box asking you if you want to close the program.

cheers.

p.s the program looks very nice. how come there is a non-gui .exe file, shouldn't that be removed now?

Yea sure .. I can remove that. And about that command line version of BackUpHDDVD .. eventually everything will be in one .exe.
I am working on a version like that but there are some weird bugs in it and I can't really release it before fixing those.

Excellent job Emon!! :D

Couple of suggestions from the UI prospective:

- progress indicated as %% somewhere, preferably on top of the app;
- After backup is done, dialog box "Do you want to reconstruct menus now?" with "OK" & "Cancel" or "Yes" & "No" would be nice to have.

Why do I need AnyDVD when I have this little wonder? :D

Yep .. progress bar will be there. See my above reply. one of those issues is with progress bar. Working on it.

[hajj_3]

sounds good, take your time and try and release the next version with ALL the changes in your post above.

[Emon]

So I decided to change the name of the app to just "BackupHDDVD (C# Port)" .. well because I finally removed the CLI version and everything is in one .exe file now.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9c0eor


Removed the dialog box asking if you want to close the program.
Added a dialog box "Do you want to reconstruct menus now?" after the backup is finished.
No progressbar as of yet but it will now print the % done in the status window.
The "Stop Backup" had this strange bug .. I workedaround the issue by basically restarting the app. If you don't like this behavior then let me know .. I will try to fix this bug.

[hajj_3]

wow emon, just wow:)!

i guess the ONLY thing left to do is to integrate the code from acacreator.exe into the backuphddvd.exe.

for now this is perfect for 1.0 release imo, then you guys need to figure out how to use the special key that was found a few days ago and volume key that a program was released for on here to scan for it.

amazing work emon!

[Galileo2000]

So I decided to change the name of the app to just "BackupHDDVD (C# Port)" .. well because I finally removed the CLI version and everything is in one .exe file now.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9c0eor


Removed the dialog box asking if you want to close the program.
Added a dialog box "Do you want to reconstruct menus now?" after the backup is finished.
No progressbar as of yet but it will now print the % done in the status window.
The "Stop Backup" had this strange bug .. I workedaround the issue by basically restarting the app. If you don't like this behavior then let me know .. I will try to fix this bug.



Emon,

Marvelous! Spectacular!

Thank you so much for your hard work!

Can't wait to get home to try it.

Well, I don't want to stop backup once it started, so I don't care much about this bug.