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El Enmascarado
18th January 2007, 09:18
I heard a good way of doing a passthrough tbc is using a dvd recorder such as DMR-ES10... would that be better then using a specifically DATAVIDEO TBC1000 device?... how about using my AG-1980 which has weared heads but can be used as another passthrough alternative... you tell me! and I know there are differences in different TBCs machine but what would be the best of all 3... know that I'm gonna be using my SLV-r1000 as the source as it seems it has better playback quality then my AG but without TBC it doesn't do as great... I hope to have the best of both worlds soon... my SLV + TBC = god who knows...

chipzoller
18th January 2007, 17:03
If you have the AG-1980 then you should replace the heads as that is Panasonic's top of the line S-VHS and is all you should need.

No TBC device will perform as good as one built into a VHS, this is assuming you're going to be capturing from the machine's output. I don't think TBC on that model is applied when used as a passthrough device.

El Enmascarado
21st January 2007, 00:07
If you have the AG-1980 then you should replace the heads as that is Panasonic's top of the line S-VHS and is all you should need.

No TBC device will perform as good as one built into a VHS, this is assuming you're going to be capturing from the machine's output. I don't think TBC on that model is applied when used as a passthrough device.

Is this TBC on the AG full frame?...
a guy from videohelp named lordsmurf said the AG doesn't have full frame only lines!! that scare me what do you say :rolleyes:
UPDATE:
I read here AG-1980 only has horizontal TBC!
http://www.videotoasternt.com/forums/read.cgi?1261
And on the manual is says vertical skews should TBC be turned off!! then is true!

chipzoller
21st January 2007, 04:11
Then this is somewhat contradictory to what I've heard and experienced, because chances are if you're going to be capturing a source that's really shaky, then the on-chip TBC will most likely take care of it and full-frame won't be necessary. At any rate, in-line or external TBC devices, even if they are full-frame, will not be as successful as on-chip.

El Enmascarado
21st January 2007, 04:44
Then this is somewhat contradictory to what I've heard and experienced, because chances are if you're going to be capturing a source that's really shaky, then the on-chip TBC will most likely take care of it and full-frame won't be necessary. At any rate, in-line or external TBC devices, even if they are full-frame, will not be as successful as on-chip.

Then why is full frame needed... when the TBC is external only?
They also say the TBC on the AG is crap in other words... compared to an DPS TBC-IV at least.