Backup hddvd and IME

[guile]

First, want to say big thanks to Muslix for this. A GREAT way to protect my investment!

A few things. I understand that Backuphddvd has issues with IME. So far, I have backed up my copies of Training Day and Swordfish and there seem to be no issues whatsoever. No synch issues, no blocking nothing other then perfect playback.

I did, however run into a problem when I attempted to backup Batman Begins. Basically, it just crashes the player and won't even load. All special features load with no problem but the main feature won't work (both .evob's crash player, using Powerdvd 6.5). Another strange problem with Superman Returns. Although the first feautre .evob is perfect, when I start the 2nd .evob of the feature, I get a severe hissing sound in 5.1. I have to revert the player to 2.0 and all is well.

So far, I have successfully backed up my copies of

Superman
Superman 2
The Thing
Swordfish
Training Day

And they all work fine.

[blizc]

Yes they do work fine. I made a mistake the first time reporting it. Just wanted to set the record straight so there is no more confusion. As some posters suggested, IME would cause distortion in video and audio. NOT a completely black screen. Crashing players I haven't experienced. We need more feedback on this issue.

[bob0r]

check http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/ for IME or other possible "bad" features.

[guile]

I think it would probably be a good idea to list any and all bugs on a per title basis. As this does relate to decrypting (possibly, it may just be ime or something similar), I think it should be posted here.

Quite a few titles that with posted keys do in fact have IME. I think this info will help people decide whether they should waste their time decrypting a particular HD-DVD from their collection (example, if I would have known Batman Begins would NOT work, I wouldn't have attempted to decrypt it).

It would be helpful to post software and perhaps playback rig (which may also contribute to playback issues).

My setup
AMD Dual Core 5000+
Asus 6800GT
2 Gig Ram
Powerdvd 6.5

My results thus far;

Training Day (First .evo plays fine, no glitches no issues, however when I playback 2nd .evo file, 5.1 is not possible resulting in a very loud hissing sound)

Superman Returns (same as above)

Batman Begins (Main Feature crashes player, both .evo's are unplayable)

Superman The Movie (Haven't watched the entire film, but both .evo files do play in full 5.1)

Superman 2: Donner Cut (Same as above, I will report back after I watch entire film)

Swordfish (Perfect playback from beginning to end)

[jokin]

Superman Returns - Both EVOs play fine with 5.1 for me

[guile]

Superman Returns - Both EVOs play fine with 5.1 for me


I will assume then it is most likely the player as I am using Power DVD and I believe you are using Windvd. I would imagine the same for Training Day then. I have to get a copy of Windvd to play with it and report back. I also want to start my own key search for several titles in my collection.

[jokin]

Superman Returns - Both EVOs play fine with 5.1 for me

[evdberg]

Just wondering, but when you guys backup a HD-DVD to HDD, you also copy the rest of the files to HDD (and in the proper directory structure)? Because if you only copy EVO files, it's like having VOB files without the IFO files (comparing to DVD). And if you play an interleaved VOB file directly in PowerDVD, you also get a very weird effect. You need to play HD-DVD from HDD, and not the separate EVO files.

[2bigkings]

with powerdvd you can play only EVO files from HDD! it doesn't accept complete HD-DVDs. we have to wait for a software that accepts "play hd-dvd from hdd"

btw: i'm searching for a hd-dvd authoring software that works with virtual drives

[evdberg]

with powerdvd you can play only EVO files from HDD!


Strange ... you say that the option 'Play HD-DVD from HD' does not work? I really need to setup my test environment so I can test stuff myself properly !

[2bigkings]

you can put the other files like *.map.. also in your playlist in powerdvd but it doesn't change something (still no navigation menu in mi2 for me). it plays only the evo files.

that's why im searching a software for a virtual HD-DVD Drive, so i can put all files together and try to play it with powerdvd ultra

[blizc]

The second feature .evo for Training Day works perfectly for me. Why do we get differrent results. Hmm... Do you use PowerDVD 7.2 ? That's my evo player.

I think it would probably be a good idea to list any and all bugs on a per title basis. As this does relate to decrypting (possibly, it may just be ime or something similar), I think it should be posted here.

Quite a few titles that with posted keys do in fact have IME. I think this info will help people decide whether they should waste their time decrypting a particular HD-DVD from their collection (example, if I would have known Batman Begins would NOT work, I wouldn't have attempted to decrypt it).

It would be helpful to post software and perhaps playback rig (which may also contribute to playback issues).

My setup
AMD Dual Core 5000+
Asus 6800GT
2 Gig Ram
Powerdvd 6.5

My results thus far;

Training Day (First .evo plays fine, no glitches no issues, however when I playback 2nd .evo file, 5.1 is not possible resulting in a very loud hissing sound)

Superman Returns (same as above)

Batman Begins (Main Feature crashes player, both .evo's are unplayable)

Superman The Movie (Haven't watched the entire film, but both .evo files do play in full 5.1)

Superman 2: Donner Cut (Same as above, I will report back after I watch entire film)

Swordfish (Perfect playback from beginning to end)

[evdberg]

Instead of choosing the playlist, you should choose 'Play HD-DVD from HD' mode ... well, I won't repeat myself anymore ...

[2bigkings]

The second feature .evo for Training Day works perfectly for me. Why do we get differrent results. Hmm... Do you use PowerDVD 7.2 ? That's my evo player.

he's using powerdvd 6.5 (look at his setup)
perhaps thats the problem

[blizc]

Yep looks like it.

[2bigkings]

there is no option for "play hd-dvd from hd" sorry

[evdberg]

I am not going into that discussion ... it's there.

[2bigkings]

i got only a option "play DVD files from HD", perhaps you using powerdvd 6.5? i use powerdvd ultra

[evdberg]

Yes, I use V6.5, because V7.2 is bitching that my video driver is not OK. It wants the ATI Catalyst driver, but that doesn't work on an iMac ...

[2bigkings]

7.2 works fine for me, but now i try the whole thing with 6.5 thanks. but i think i can't install 2 powerdvd versions or?
i tell you more later, perhaps it works..

[guile]

The second feature .evo for Training Day works perfectly for me. Why do we get differrent results. Hmm... Do you use PowerDVD 7.2 ? That's my evo player.

Judging by some other responses, I'm sure that is it. I just tried to install 7.2 Ultra but it reverted to Blu Ray ONLY. I will give it another shot and see what's up.

Btw, speaking of Powerdvd, is that the player most are using for their .evo files?...or is it Windvd??

[guile]

Instead of choosing the playlist, you should choose 'Play HD-DVD from HD' mode ... well, I won't repeat myself anymore ...

Eventhough the option is there (at least in 6.5) it does NOT work. I have moved all other files into the directory with the .evo files and nothing, nada zilch, won't work.

[evdberg]

Eventhough the option is there (at least in 6.5) it does NOT work. I have moved all other files into the directory with the .evo files and nothing, nada zilch, won't work.
You have to keep the filestructure the same as on the original disk, but maybe because the encryption is removed, some other files have to be changed as well. I will try it myself as soon as I can ...

And by the way, how do you know that the option does not work if you even do not know whether the option is there?

[guile]

You have to keep the filestructure the same as on the original disk, but maybe because the encryption is removed, some other files have to be changed as well. I will try it myself as soon as I can ...

I thought exactly the same thing. Since it (.evo files) have been decrypted, the structure is now changed.

[Omnius]

In 6.5, it is two separate options for DVD and HD-DVD, and HD-DVD never worked for me no matter what I tried (only tried decrypted files). In 7.2 Ultra only one option shows up, I forget the exact wording (at work at the moment), but I got the impression it was one option that would work for both DVD and HD-DVD. I was also never able to get it to work on a decrypted HD-DVD, I do not know about encrypted discs copied to the drive.

[DJN8B]

Judging by some other responses, I'm sure that is it. I just tried to install 7.2 Ultra but it reverted to Blu Ray ONLY. I will give it another shot and see what's up.
Try reinstalling PDVD 7.2 Ultra. Before you do, rename the PDVDBD folder to PDVDBD.old then rename PDVDHD folder to PDVDBD. This will force the HD-DVD installation instead of the default BluRay.

Btw, speaking of Powerdvd, is that the player most are using for their .evo files?...or is it Windvd??

There are only three that can be obtained so far:

PowerDVD 6.5 HD-DVD
PowerDVD 7.1 or 7.2 Ultra
WinDVD Platinum version 8 (Japan Release only)

[DJN8B]

7.2 works fine for me, but now i try the whole thing with 6.5 thanks. but i think i can't install 2 powerdvd versions or?
i tell you more later, perhaps it works..

You cannot have both PDVD's installed at once. Perhaps try installing to different partitions?

[guile]

Try reinstalling PDVD 7.2 Ultra. Before you do, rename the PDVDBD folder to PDVDBD.old then rename PDVDHD folder to PDVDBD. This will force the HD-DVD installation instead of the default BluRay.


Thanks for that. I did move the PDVDBD folder to another location hoping it would just pick up the HD-DVD folder but no go. Your method worked like a charm.

[kolak]

"Try reinstalling PDVD 7.2 Ultra. Before you do, rename the PDVDBD folder to PDVDBD.old then rename PDVDHD folder to PDVDBD. This will force the HD-DVD installation instead of the default BluRay."

:) funny, because I found exactly the same way. I wanted post it, but it's already done.

Wit Powerdvd ULtra you can play HD DVD from disk, but with PowerDVD 6.5 not (if I remeber corectly).

[guile]

"Try reinstalling PDVD 7.2 Ultra. Before you do, rename the PDVDBD folder to PDVDBD.old then rename PDVDHD folder to PDVDBD. This will force the HD-DVD installation instead of the default BluRay."

:) funny, because I found exactly the same way. I wanted post it, but it's already done.

Wit Powerdvd ULtra you can play HD DVD from disk, but with PowerDVD 6.5 not (if I remeber corectly).

Well, I guess it's back to 6.5 for me. After installing 7.2 Ultra, at first, it was playing .evo files (but zoomed in with horrible color) then it stopped and is saying my rig is NOT compatible. I don't have a hdcp TV. That is another reason I think backuphddvd is great!

[2themax]

There is a playback solution for movies with IME and U-Control. Run the movie through BackupHDDVD to your hard drive as normal. Once the movie is done decrypting, go to the folder where the .EVO files were decrypted. Create 2 new folders; ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS. Copy the main movie, usually will have FEATURE or PEVOB in the name, into the HVDVD_TS folder. There may be more than one .EVO file to copy. Once that is done, go back to the original disc and browse to the HVDVD_TS folder. Copy over the corresponding .MAP files; i.e. if the .EVO file is FEATURE.EVO, copy over FEATURE.MAP, to the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. From the same directory, copy the .VTI file. It should look something like HVA00001.VTI. Place both MAP and .VTI files in the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. Now go back to the disc and browser to the ADV_OBJ folder. From that folder, copy the DISCID.DAT file and the VPLST000.XPL file to the ADJ_OBJ folder you just created on your hard drive. Once that is done, open the VPLST000.XPL in either an XML editor or plain-text editor. At the top, there may be some AACS info and null characters. They can be erased. There may also be some at the end of the file. In that file, focus on the info between the opening and closing TitleSet tags. The following parts can be customized. Since only the main movie was copied over to the HVDVD_TS folder, the rest of the information needs to be deleted. Start by deleting the FirstPlayTitle info. Next, find the main movie. If there are any Titles before it, delete them also. If doing this, make sure to change the titleNumber attribute of the main movie to 1. Now delete all titles after the main movie. There may be quite a few to delete. After all the titles, there is a section called PlaylistApplication. Delete that too. There should now only be one title left, the main movie. Within that title, there may be references to ApplicationSegment and ScheduledConrtolList. Delete either or both if they exist. What you are left with is the Playlist for the main movie. It contains the needed references to the main and sub video along with the main audio, sub audio, and subtitles. Since PowerDVD does not handle subtitles right, I choose to delete all references to them in the Playlist. To do so, remove references to them in the PrimaryAudioVideoClip and also in TrackNavigationList. I also removed the references to SubVideo and SubAudio to insure smooth playback. This may not be necessary though. Once all that is done, from PowerDVD, point to the folder containing the ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS folders on your hard drive and hit play. If everything was done right, you should be watching the movie. So far I have gotten King Kong and Batman Begins to play using this method. Give it a shot!

[jokin]

Nice work. I will try this when I get home.

[blizc]

If this works then we are another step closer. Pretty big step I'd say. Thanks for posting this.

There is a playback solution for movies with IME and U-Control. Run the movie through BackupHDDVD to your hard drive as normal. Once the movie is done decrypting, go to the folder where the .EVO files were decrypted. Create 2 new folders; ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS. Copy the main movie, usually will have FEATURE or PEVOB in the name, into the HVDVD_TS folder. There may be more than one .EVO file to copy. Once that is done, go back to the original disc and browse to the HVDVD_TS folder. Copy over the corresponding .MAP files; i.e. if the .EVO file is FEATURE.EVO, copy over FEATURE.MAP, to the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. From the same directory, copy the .VTI file. It should look something like HVA00001.VTI. Place both MAP and .VTI files in the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. Now go back to the disc and browser to the ADV_OBJ folder. From that folder, copy the DISCID.DAT file and the VPLST000.XPL file to the ADJ_OBJ folder you just created on your hard drive. Once that is done, open the VPLST000.XPL in either an XML editor or plain-text editor. At the top, there may be some AACS info and null characters. They can be erased. There may also be some at the end of the file. In that file, focus on the info between the opening and closing TitleSet tags. The following parts can be customized. Since only the main movie was copied over to the HVDVD_TS folder, the rest of the information needs to be deleted. Start by deleting the FirstPlayTitle info. Next, find the main movie. If there are any Titles before it, delete them also. If doing this, make sure to change the titleNumber attribute of the main movie to 1. Now delete all titles after the main movie. There may be quite a few to delete. After all the titles, there is a section called PlaylistApplication. Delete that too. There should now only be one title left, the main movie. Within that title, there may be references to ApplicationSegment and ScheduledConrtolList. Delete either or both if they exist. What you are left with is the Playlist for the main movie. It contains the needed references to the main and sub video along with the main audio, sub audio, and subtitles. Since PowerDVD does not handle subtitles right, I choose to delete all references to them in the Playlist. To do so, remove references to them in the PrimaryAudioVideoClip and also in TrackNavigationList. I also removed the references to SubVideo and SubAudio to insure smooth playback. This may not be necessary though. Once all that is done, from PowerDVD, point to the folder containing the ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS folders on your hard drive and hit play. If everything was done right, you should be watching the movie. So far I have gotten King Kong and Batman Begins to play using this method. Give it a shot!

[2bigkings]

There is a playback solution for movies with IME and U-Control. Run the movie through BackupHDDVD to your hard drive as normal. Once the movie is done decrypting, go to the folder where the .EVO files were decrypted. Create 2 new folders; ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS. Copy the main movie, usually will have FEATURE or PEVOB in the name, into the HVDVD_TS folder. There may be more than one .EVO file to copy. Once that is done, go back to the original disc and browse to the HVDVD_TS folder. Copy over the corresponding .MAP files; i.e. if the .EVO file is FEATURE.EVO, copy over FEATURE.MAP, to the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. From the same directory, copy the .VTI file. It should look something like HVA00001.VTI. Place both MAP and .VTI files in the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. Now go back to the disc and browser to the ADV_OBJ folder. From that folder, copy the DISCID.DAT file and the VPLST000.XPL file to the ADJ_OBJ folder you just created on your hard drive. Once that is done, open the VPLST000.XPL in either an XML editor or plain-text editor. At the top, there may be some AACS info and null characters. They can be erased. There may also be some at the end of the file. In that file, focus on the info between the opening and closing TitleSet tags. The following parts can be customized. Since only the main movie was copied over to the HVDVD_TS folder, the rest of the information needs to be deleted. Start by deleting the FirstPlayTitle info. Next, find the main movie. If there are any Titles before it, delete them also. If doing this, make sure to change the titleNumber attribute of the main movie to 1. Now delete all titles after the main movie. There may be quite a few to delete. After all the titles, there is a section called PlaylistApplication. Delete that too. There should now only be one title left, the main movie. Within that title, there may be references to ApplicationSegment and ScheduledConrtolList. Delete either or both if they exist. What you are left with is the Playlist for the main movie. It contains the needed references to the main and sub video along with the main audio, sub audio, and subtitles. Since PowerDVD does not handle subtitles right, I choose to delete all references to them in the Playlist. To do so, remove references to them in the PrimaryAudioVideoClip and also in TrackNavigationList. I also removed the references to SubVideo and SubAudio to insure smooth playback. This may not be necessary though. Once all that is done, from PowerDVD, point to the folder containing the ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS folders on your hard drive and hit play. If everything was done right, you should be watching the movie. So far I have gotten King Kong and Batman Begins to play using this method. Give it a shot!



i will try this later, perhaps it works!

[guile]

There is a playback solution for movies with IME and U-Control. Run the movie through BackupHDDVD to your hard drive as normal. Once the movie is done decrypting, go to the folder where the .EVO files were decrypted. Create 2 new folders; ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS. Copy the main movie, usually will have FEATURE or PEVOB in the name, into the HVDVD_TS folder. There may be more than one .EVO file to copy. Once that is done, go back to the original disc and browse to the HVDVD_TS folder. Copy over the corresponding .MAP files; i.e. if the .EVO file is FEATURE.EVO, copy over FEATURE.MAP, to the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. From the same directory, copy the .VTI file. It should look something like HVA00001.VTI. Place both MAP and .VTI files in the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. Now go back to the disc and browser to the ADV_OBJ folder. From that folder, copy the DISCID.DAT file and the VPLST000.XPL file to the ADJ_OBJ folder you just created on your hard drive. Once that is done, open the VPLST000.XPL in either an XML editor or plain-text editor. At the top, there may be some AACS info and null characters. They can be erased. There may also be some at the end of the file. In that file, focus on the info between the opening and closing TitleSet tags. The following parts can be customized. Since only the main movie was copied over to the HVDVD_TS folder, the rest of the information needs to be deleted. Start by deleting the FirstPlayTitle info. Next, find the main movie. If there are any Titles before it, delete them also. If doing this, make sure to change the titleNumber attribute of the main movie to 1. Now delete all titles after the main movie. There may be quite a few to delete. After all the titles, there is a section called PlaylistApplication. Delete that too. There should now only be one title left, the main movie. Within that title, there may be references to ApplicationSegment and ScheduledConrtolList. Delete either or both if they exist. What you are left with is the Playlist for the main movie. It contains the needed references to the main and sub video along with the main audio, sub audio, and subtitles. Since PowerDVD does not handle subtitles right, I choose to delete all references to them in the Playlist. To do so, remove references to them in the PrimaryAudioVideoClip and also in TrackNavigationList. I also removed the references to SubVideo and SubAudio to insure smooth playback. This may not be necessary though. Once all that is done, from PowerDVD, point to the folder containing the ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS folders on your hard drive and hit play. If everything was done right, you should be watching the movie. So far I have gotten King Kong and Batman Begins to play using this method. Give it a shot!

You rock!!! Works great. I really think you found a big peice to the puzzle here. First, this is the ONLY title that I was able to scan through from beginning to end! Obviously, when you play it this way (rather then single .evo files) you are probably going to get the best playback the player can afford. This actually may solve more problems then just ime or u-control because I am thinking this is (at least for now, until muliplexer) will allow seemless playback of designated .evo's. I will do this with other titles I have had issues with and see what happens but I think this is a big step forward and I thank you for this.

Thanks Batman Begins is one of my favorites of the last few years.

[bass4040]

I get a format not supported message. Can someone post what the xpl file should look like after all the deletions?

[2themax]

This method will also work with any disc you have backed up. I did so with Hulk and playback was fine.

Here's what my version of the Batman Begins XPL file looks like.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Playlist xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.dvdforum.org/2005/HDDVDVideo/Playlist file:/F:/Program%20Files/Oxygen%207.0/current_schemas/Playlist.xsd"
xmlns="http://www.dvdforum.org/2005/HDDVDVideo/Playlist"
displayName="Batman Begins HD DVD"
minorVersion="0"
majorVersion="1">

<Configuration>
<StreamingBuffer size="0"/>
<Aperture size="1920x1080"/>
<MainVideoDefaultColor color="108080"/>
</Configuration>

<MediaAttributeList>
<VideoAttributeItem codec="VC-1" index="1"/>
<VideoAttributeItem codec="MPEG-2" index="2"/>
<AudioAttributeItem codec="DD+" index="1" channels="6"/>
<AudioAttributeItem codec="MLP" index="2" channels="6"/>
<AudioAttributeItem codec="DD+" index="3" channels="2"/>
<SubpictureAttributeItem codec="8bitRLC" index="1"/>
</MediaAttributeList>

<TitleSet tickBase="60fps" timeBase="60fps" defaultLanguage="en">


<Title displayName="Feature Presentation" id="feature" titleNumber="1" titleDuration="02:20:17:39" tickBaseDivisor="4" onEnd="feature">
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:19:45:30" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_1.MAP" dataSource="Disc">
<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English MLP" streamNumber="2"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="3" description="French 5.1" streamNumber="3"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="4" description="Spanish 5.1" streamNumber="4"/>
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="01:19:45:30" titleTimeEnd="02:19:54:25" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_2.MAP" seamless="true" dataSource="Disc">
<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English MLP" streamNumber="2"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="3" description="French 5.1" streamNumber="3"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="4" description="Spanish 5.1" streamNumber="4"/>
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="02:19:54:25" titleTimeEnd="02:20:17:39" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/Interpol.MAP" dataSource="Disc" description="Interpol Warning">
<Video track="1" mediaAttr="1"/>
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<ChapterList>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 1" titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 2" titleTimeBegin="00:03:39:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 3" titleTimeBegin="00:07:30:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 4" titleTimeBegin="00:11:33:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 5" titleTimeBegin="00:16:14:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 6" titleTimeBegin="00:19:43:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 7" titleTimeBegin="00:24:17:50"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 8" titleTimeBegin="00:28:23:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 9" titleTimeBegin="00:31:23:30"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 10" titleTimeBegin="00:35:51:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 11" titleTimeBegin="00:38:22:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 12" titleTimeBegin="00:41:12:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 13" titleTimeBegin="00:43:05:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 14" titleTimeBegin="00:46:55:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 15" titleTimeBegin="00:49:41:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 16" titleTimeBegin="00:53:23:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 17" titleTimeBegin="00:55:51:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 18" titleTimeBegin="00:57:58:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 19" titleTimeBegin="01:03:28:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 20" titleTimeBegin="01:05:49:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 21" titleTimeBegin="01:08:34:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 22" titleTimeBegin="01:11:21:30"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 23" titleTimeBegin="01:13:15:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 24" titleTimeBegin="01:16:11:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 25" titleTimeBegin="01:19:45:30"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 26" titleTimeBegin="01:23:49:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 27" titleTimeBegin="01:28:57:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 28" titleTimeBegin="01:32:31:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 29" titleTimeBegin="01:37:43:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 30" titleTimeBegin="01:40:27:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 31" titleTimeBegin="01:45:02:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 32" titleTimeBegin="01:49:25:30"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 33" titleTimeBegin="01:51:22:30"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 34" titleTimeBegin="01:54:42:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 35" titleTimeBegin="01:58:04:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 36" titleTimeBegin="02:01:47:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 37" titleTimeBegin="02:04:53:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 38" titleTimeBegin="02:05:59:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 39" titleTimeBegin="02:09:10:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 40" titleTimeBegin="02:10:49:10"/>
</ChapterList>
<TrackNavigationList>
<AudioTrack track="1" langcode="en:01"/>
<AudioTrack track="2" langcode="en:01"/>
<AudioTrack track="3" langcode="fr:01"/>
<AudioTrack track="4" langcode="es:01"/>
</TrackNavigationList>
</Title>

</TitleSet>

</Playlist>

[2themax]

In the code I just posted, remove

<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="02:19:54:25" titleTimeEnd="02:20:17:39" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/Interpol.MAP" dataSource="Disc" description="Interpol Warning">
<Video track="1" mediaAttr="1"/>
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>

Otherwise you will have issues at the end of the movie.

[Eeknay]

I just tested with V For Vendetta and it worked. Thanks.

[Metro]

Worked for me with King Kong (US). That's really great work, 2themax, thanks!

Incidentally it works fine if you leave all the rest of the HVDVD_TS and ADV_OBJ files in their directories on the harddrive, they just get ignored, but if you've copied the AACS directories over, it seems to break PowerDVD 7.2 - I've been unsuccessfully messing with the XML for several days now.

In a broader sense having editable XML is a big step forward - for the format, as well as for playing IME/UControl. Once we understand the structure it should be possible to customize the discs in any way we want. It will be good to strip those pesky FBI warnings and enforced trailers while preserving the good bits. Some script wizards should be able to write automation for this, and it's easier to understand than some of the cryptic navigation stuff in conventional DVD.

A functional breakdown of 2thmax's modified XML template looks like this:

<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
<Playlist (Some stuff)
<Configuration>
(Some stuff)
</Configuration>
<MediaAttributeList>
(Some stuff)
</MediaAttributeList>

<TitleSet timebase... (Some stuff)

<Title titleNumber="1" ...(Some stuff)
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
(Some stuff)
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip> .... If there's more than one feature EVO
(Some stuff)
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<ChapterList>
(Some stuff)
</ChapterList>
<TrackNavigationList>
(Some stuff)
</TrackNavigationList>
</Title>
</Titleset>
</Playlist>

- and that's all we need for the main feature. Great work!

[2bigkings]

it work's fine!!! now i can change the language in european HD-DVDs!! thank you!

[honai]

Once we understand the structure it should be possible to customize the discs in any way we want. It will be good to strip those pesky FBI warnings and enforced trailers while preserving the good bits. Some script wizards should be able to write automation for this, and it's easier to understand than some of the cryptic navigation stuff in conventional DVD.

I'm working on a command-line version of this, first version should be out this weekend.

[guile]

I'm working on a command-line version of this, first version should be out this weekend.

Cool, I would like to play with that. Btw, are most of you guys using Power DVD 6.5? If so, on certain titles, are you seeing an occasional "tearing" type effect? I'm wondering if it is player related or due to improper decryption. Since I haven't messed with jap windvd 8, I can't really say. So far, I have noticed it on several titles. Nothing too distracting but it's there.

[noclip]

Which file are you supposed to play? Nothing works for me.

[guile]

Which file are you supposed to play? Nothing works for me.

Using Powerdvd 6.5, you would select "Open HD-DVD file from hard disk" and just go to the directory of the stored backup. If you did this, and you couldn't click "OK" to play it, then most likely you did something wrong in the .xmp file.

[noclip]

That's the way I was doing it, it shows a black screen for a second and then stops playback.

What's wrong with my playlist?

<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
<Playlist xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.dvdforum.org/2005/HDDVDVideo/Playlist
file:/X:/RND/current_schemas/Playlist.xsd"
xmlns="http://www.dvdforum.org/2005/HDDVDVideo/Playlist" displayName="V for Vendetta HD DVD"
minorVersion="0" majorVersion="1">
<Configuration>
<StreamingBuffer size="0"/>
<Aperture size="1920x1080"/>
<MainVideoDefaultColor color="108080"/>
</Configuration>
<MediaAttributeList>
<VideoAttributeItem codec="VC-1" index="1"/>
<VideoAttributeItem codec="MPEG-2" index="2"/>
<AudioAttributeItem codec="DD+" index="1" channels="6"/>
<AudioAttributeItem codec="MLP" index="2" channels="6"/>
<AudioAttributeItem codec="DD+" index="3" channels="2"/>
<SubpictureAttributeItem codec="8bitRLC" index="1"/>
</MediaAttributeList>
<TitleSet tickBase="60fps" timeBase="60fps" defaultLanguage="en">
<Title displayName="Feature Presentation" id="feature" titleNumber="1" titleDuration="02:12:47:38" tickBaseDivisor="4" onEnd="feature">
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_1.MAP" titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:08:11:40" dataSource="Disc">
<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English TrueHD" streamNumber="2"/>
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_2.MAP" titleTimeBegin="01:08:11:40" titleTimeEnd="02:12:24:24" dataSource="Disc" seamless="true">
<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English TrueHD" streamNumber="2"/>
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<ChapterList>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 1" titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 2" titleTimeBegin="00:02:24:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 3" titleTimeBegin="00:09:07:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 4" titleTimeBegin="00:10:59:44"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 5" titleTimeBegin="00:16:26:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 6" titleTimeBegin="00:21:55:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 7" titleTimeBegin="00:25:00:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 8" titleTimeBegin="00:30:08:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 9" titleTimeBegin="00:35:35:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 10" titleTimeBegin="00:40:35:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 11" titleTimeBegin="00:43:11:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 12" titleTimeBegin="00:47:59:50"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 13" titleTimeBegin="00:49:38:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 14" titleTimeBegin="00:54:07:50"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 15" titleTimeBegin="00:56:36:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 16" titleTimeBegin="01:00:27:40"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 17" titleTimeBegin="01:04:43:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 18" titleTimeBegin="01:09:37:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 19" titleTimeBegin="01:12:03:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 20" titleTimeBegin="01:18:45:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 21" titleTimeBegin="01:21:08:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 22" titleTimeBegin="01:25:56:30"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 23" titleTimeBegin="01:29:15:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 24" titleTimeBegin="01:32:02:50"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 25" titleTimeBegin="01:36:15:30"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 26" titleTimeBegin="01:39:22:30"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 27" titleTimeBegin="01:44:11:20"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 28" titleTimeBegin="01:48:43:50"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 29" titleTimeBegin="01:51:57:00"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 30" titleTimeBegin="01:53:50:50"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 31" titleTimeBegin="01:57:44:30"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 32" titleTimeBegin="01:59:28:10"/>
<Chapter displayName="Chapter 33" titleTimeBegin="02:04:31:00"/>
</ChapterList>
<TrackNavigationList>
<AudioTrack track="1" langcode="en:01" description="English 5.1"/>
<AudioTrack track="2" langcode="en:01" description="English TrueHD"/>
</TrackNavigationList>
</Title>
</TitleSet>
</Playlist>

[guile]

Playlist looks ok. Did you remember to move the .vti file to the HVDVD_TS folder?

[noclip]

Playlist looks ok. Did you remember to move the .vti file to the HVDVD_TS folder?

Yeah. Are you supposed to edit the VTI file too?

[guile]

Yeah. Are you supposed to edit the VTI file too?

No, just the xmp. Stupid question. You did also move the feature .map's to the HVDVD_TS folder? I know somebody reported they did V for Vendetta and it worked.

[noclip]

No, just the xmp. Stupid question. You did also move the feature .map's to the HVDVD_TS folder? I know somebody reported they did V for Vendetta and it worked.

Why is that a stupid question? The VTI file contains references to the other EVOBs.

I did everything according to the post on page 2 and double checked it. I even tried copying all the decrypted EVOBs and their MAPs to the HDDVD_TS directory and using the original playlist with AACS crap deleted.