WaveLab 5 - Stereo to 6.1 (V.ISuite)

[Elektra999]

Hello to all

This guide, It is of Steve Thomson, But I, I have managed to do the 6.1 with WaveLab 5

01. To install ASIO4ALL, V.I Suite, Clasic Master Limiter or Pick Master, WaveLab 5.

WAVELAB 5

02. Menu / Options / Preferences / Audio Card, to select ASIO4ALL, Click OK.

03. Menu / Open WAV

04. Menu / Edit / Audio Properties, to select 32bits float

06. Click Ctrl+A, Menu / Process / Eliminate DC Offset

07. Menu / Edit / Create Audio Montage from Wave, to select Wholen Range, click Ok.

08. In the window that appears, to select Edit / Mode / 8 channels (non DVD-Audio configuration)

08. In the left part of the track , click Button 1 y to select Clone Track

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09. In the second track that appears, click Button 2 y to select Clone Track. To do the same with tracks audio 3 and 4.

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10. Click button no fx of the 1 audio track and to select to Add effect slot…
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Click Effects and to look for plug-in FL FR (V.I Suite)
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Click again button fx and as second effect we put, Classic Limiter Masters to 0dB.
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11. Click button no fx of the 2 audio track and to select to Add effect slot…
Click Effects and to look for plug-in CLFE (V.I Suite)
Click again button fx and as second effect we put, Classic Limiter Masters to 0dB.

12. Click button no fx of the 3 audio track and to select to Add effect slot…
Click Effects and to look for plug-in SL SR (V.I Suite)
Click again button fx and as second effect we put, Classic Limiter Masters to 0dB.
The channels are mixed SL SR and we will obtain channel SC (center back)

13. Click button no fx of the 4 audio track and to select to Add effect slot…
Click Effects and to look for plug-in SL SR (V.I Suite)
Click again button fx and as second effect we put, Classic Limiter Masters to 0dB.

14. 1 audio track, click 1-2

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To select 1 - 2 (image)

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15. 2 audio track, click 1-2 To select 3 - 4

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16. 3 audio track, click 1-2 To select 5 - 5 (center back)

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17. 4 audio track, click 1-2 To select 6 - 7

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18. Click Render

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WAV 1 - CHANNEL FL
WAV 2 - CHANNEL FR
WAV 3 - CHANNEL CENTER
WAV 4 - CHANNEL LFE
WAV 5 - CHANNEL CENTER SURROUND
WAV 6 - CHANNEL SL
WAV 7 - CHANNEL SR
WAV 8 - DELETE[/B]

[ursamtl]

Interesting guide, Elektra. Thanks, I'll add it to the guide list.

[Elektra999]

Thanks Steve
She is his guide, the only thing that I added a channel but 6.1
I am very contented, to work with you :)

Frank

[Elektra999]

I want to add something more to the guide: it is possible to do a Downsampling. Of, 24/48000, 24/96000... to 16/44100 and, to apply the Dithering UV22HR, like 3 effect, to the 4 tracks of audio stereo.
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Greetings
Frank

[ursamtl]

Good point, Frank. Just remember folks, the target sample rate you choose should match your intended playback format. For surround CDs, it should be 16-bit/44.1kHz. For DVD's, the sample rate needs to be 48kHz or 96 kHz. If you happen to be doing DVD-Audio it can be any of these plus 88.2kHz (higher sampling rates on DVD-Audio are supported by 2-channel stereo but are out of spec for surround).

[Elektra999]

Hello
I have realized, that, the SurroundPann of Steinberg Nuendo, accepts WaveLab v5. I have thought and proven, that, for audio of "Movies" 5.1/6.1, it is very well.


01. The first track audio stereo:

- First effect, I add, FL FR V.I Suite (Preset - At the Movies)
- Second effect, I add, SurroundPan (Steinberg Nuendo)

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- Third effect, now I add, PickMaster.

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02. Second stereo audio track:

- First effect, I add, CLFE V.I Suite (Preset - AT the Movies)
- Second effect, I add, SurroundPan (Steinberg Nuendo)

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- Third effect, now I add, PickMaster.


03. Third stereo audio track:

- First effect, I add, SL SR. V.I Suite (Preset - AT the Movies)
- Second effect, I add, SurroundPan (Steinberg Nuendo)

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- Third effect, now I add, PickMaster.


04. Fourth stereo audio track:

- First effect, I add, SL SR. V.I Suite (Preset - AT the Movies)
- Second effect, I add, SurroundPan (Steinberg Nuendo)

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- Third effect, now I add, PickMaster.



Note: If the Encoder (Dolby Surround EX 6.1) of Sony Vegas 7d is used, the SurroundPanner of Nuendo, I do not advise, because it can distort. Sony Vegas 7d already takes SurroundPanner and is sufficient.

Greetings
Frank DTS Ultra ;) :D

[ursamtl]

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the info. This is an interesting discovery!

[Elektra999]

Thanks Steve.
It is always a pleasure, to share knowledge. It is of wise people ;)

[zorat2000]

Hi there,

I have a slight problem with sound just wondering if you could help. I have an emu 1616 sound card. I am following your instructions: Menu / Options / Preferences / Audio Card, to select ASIO4ALL, Click OK but i am not getting any sound when i have imported the wav file am I doing somthing wrong?

thanks

[ursamtl]

I'd recommend using E-MU's native ASIO driver instead of ASIO4ALL. Their driver will be real ASIO instead of an emulation and much better. I have an E-MU 1212M, which is a 2-channel version of the 1616 and the ASIO driver works extremely well. I still use my Audigy 2 ZS for surround work but I plan to upgrade to a 1616 in a few months. These E-MU cards are extraordinary in terms of stability and sound quality!

[Rck60s]

If I am not using 6.1 but rather 5.1 do I only clone 3 sets of files instead of 4?..I like the fact that the V.I. suite is compatable with this as well....Is there a normalization setting here like in audition?

[ursamtl]

Yes, only three sets are required. Wavelab has a normalization function but I believe it's standard peak normalization instead of the Group Waveform Normalize function in Cool Edit and Audition. Perhaps someone more familiar with Wavelab could comment. I've used it in the past but now I use Cool Edit (which became Audition).

[Rck60s]

Thanks...i used Wavelab last night and the normalization function in audition and got very good results...I tried the settings you suggested....

[ursamtl]

Great! I'm glad you got some good results. Keep practicing and you'll be an expert in no time! Continue to share your results with us as doing so helps other newcomers.

Regards,
Steve.

[Elektra999]

WaveLab works very well.
I, already I do not work with Wavelab, now, I am working with Cubase 4, have problems with some plug-ins, but I can do the conversion of stereo to Surround 5.1, otherwise My card of sound is a Creative X-FI, and my another card, to do recordings of analogical to digital, is the Interface 410 of M-Audio, this, really it works very well, a good enough sound.

V.I/VI.I, has a quality (preserving the Range dynamic) EXCELLENT.
Few plug-ins work so well, and it is Free:)

[Elektra999]

I am trying to study, a new method 5.1 with Cubase 4 (with delays), but, the results are not good. It is very complicated for my, but, I will try to improve.

[Jenyok]

Elektra999
.
Could you discribe this algorithm in text and pictures ?
For example...
C(central) = L(left) + R(right)
and so on.
.
Thanks.
.