Codec Pack - Nimo no good:(

[big_green_jelly_bean]

Ive used Nimo for as long as I can remember. But now I got this "Xvid" file that has a .MP4 on the end of it. I tried Nimo, All-in-one and a Xvid codec of some sort.

Is there a good, newer, working Codec pack out there that would open this file?

I know this question must be asked a million times, so I am sorry.... I have been looking for a suggestion.

Allot of you guys are doing things way over my head. Im still learning. Im happy that I got DVD Rebuilder with CCE working.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

ffdshow filter is all you need. no need for any so-called "codec pack" !!!
My recommendation is: Remove all "codec packs" and get ffdshow :)

Get ffdshow here please, official site is completely outdated:
http://www.ffdshow.info/

Maybe you will need a *splitter* for MP4 container:
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/MatroskaSplitter.exe

// EDIT

Maybe you like to try MPlayer, which is the ultimate "all-in-one" solution.
It won't need any Codecs/Splitter/Plugins or whatever!

http://mplayer.de.gg/

[check]

I recommend the CCCP:
1. uninstall all other codecs/filters
2. install CCCP
3. :)

[kurt]

huh, don't you know codecpacks like Nimo could screw up your system?

seriously, uninstall this bs.

FFdshow instead should playback your file without any problem.


edit: sorry, too late :D

[big_green_jelly_bean]

I dont want to use any specific player. I got a HTPC and a Work Center, and I use about 4 players already... I like my selection for what and when I need it...

Ill try CCCP...

FDShow, doesnt let me play the MP4 file... it will just play audio in Windows Media Player or Win AMP

Mike

BTW, I know enough on how to use NIMO... even Beta 9... never screwed me yet...

[LoRd_MuldeR]

I dont want to use any specific player. I got a HTPC and a Work Center, and I use about 4 players already... I like my selection for what and when I need it...

Ill try CCCP...

Mike

Then use ffdshow. It is not a Player nor a "Codec Pack".

It's simply one Filter that can be used by all DirectShow based players, which means almost all players available for Windows. Ffdshow is able to decode 99% of all video/audio formats out there, including MPEG-2, MPEG-4 (DivX/XviD), H.264 (x264, Nero Digital) and so on... So there's absoloutely no need for any "codec packs". But you'll still need a *splitter* for MP4 container, if you don't have installed one yet! Splitters are different from Decoders (Codecs), so don't mix that up please! A splitter is needed to read the streams from the input file, while Decoders (Codecs) decode/uncompress the single streams. Ffdshow is able to decode the Video/Audio stored in the MP4 container, but it needs a suitable Splitter to work with!

The recommended splitter for MP4 is Haali's:
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/MatroskaSplitter.exe

[kurt]

your mp4 file contains a xvid video stream? sure? Did you enable XviD support during installation of ffdshow? Which splitter and Player do you use? Like L. Moulder said, Haali Splitter is recommended or the build_in mp4 splitter (gabest) in mpc.

BTW, I know enough on how to use NIMO... even Beta 9... never screwed me yet...
hehe, let's hope this will never change ;)

[big_green_jelly_bean]

CCCP wont let me play it in WinAmp however it is working in Media Player...may need a restart for winamp or something...

It works with CCCP... FDShow allone didnt work...

[LoRd_MuldeR]

CCCP wont let me play it in WinAmp however it is working in Media Player...may need a restart for winamp or something...

It works with CCCP... FDShow allone didnt work...

Read my above post please :sly:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=931542#post931542

[big_green_jelly_bean]

there is no doubt that you know what your doing.... but I have NO clue what FDShow is or what an Audio Splitter is... or any of this...

I want to learn, but before I can learn I want my stupid file to play.

I got this going, so now, what the hell is all these things...

Playing files should be easy... I dont mind the bit of work, I aint no rooky, but I often get lost around here...

I got MPEG2 down (CCE, AVISynth, VOBBlanker, MenuShrink, AKA)... Im happy with that so far:)

Edit: With the CCCP the Audio is out of sin:( Probably a Media Encoding issue

Edit2: Yay to the new version of VOBBlanker

[LoRd_MuldeR]

there is no doubt that you know what your doing.... but I have NO clue what FDShow is or what an Audio Splitter is... or any of this...

I want to learn, but before I can learn I want my stupid file to play.

I got this going, so now, what the hell is all these things...

Playing files should be easy... I dont mind the bit of work, I aint no rooky, but I often get lost around here...

I got MPEG2 down (CCE, AVISynth, VOBBlanker, MenuShrink, AKA)... Im happy with that so far:)

Edit: With the CCCP the Audio is out of sin:( Probably a Media Encoding issue

I'll try to explain better: At first you have to separate between DirectShow-based Players (Windows Media Player, Media Player Classic, Zoom Player, etc) and "self-contained" players (like MPlayer, VLC Player).

DirectShow based players - no matter which one you use - will load installed DirectShow Filters to playback a file. To playback a file you basically need 3 Filters: A suitable splitter, which reads the streams form the input file, a suitable Audio Decoder and a suitable Video Decoder. Ffdshow is a Decoder Filter for DirectShow. So what it can do is: Decode the Audio and Video streams - in all Players! But: What ffdshow does not do, is splitting the input file! For AVI, for example, no splitter is needed, because Windows has one installed by default. That's different for MP4 or MKV files. You'll need Haali's Splitter for that (or a similar one).

Hope that makes things clear ;)


In short what you need is:

FFdshow + Haali Splitter (sometimes) + Player of your choose
-or-
MPlayer on it's own
-or
VLC Media Player on it's own

But again: No need for a "codec pack" :D

// EDIT

Also have a look at this screenshot to understand how DirectShow plays a MP4 file:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9226/graphaj9.gif

Remember: The graph looks 100% the same, no matter what player you use!

[kurt]

I want to learn, but before I can learn I want my stupid file to play.

Playing files should be easy... I dont mind the bit of work, I aint no rooky, but I often get lost around here...
Then try vlc. This player, which comes with its own codecs, reads most of the videofiles, probably your file too. And if it is out of sync you can set a delay in the player (or in the audio decoder like ffshow ;))

[check]

Are you talking about a DVD or an mpeg2 stream? If you are using windows MCE, you will need to use a 'certified' MPEG2 decoder, such as any of the major commercial ones (cyberlink, powerdvd, purevideo, etc). You can use the free decoder included with the CCCP (gabest's), but that requires some hackery to get it to work in WMP.

If the above doesn't apply, it probably means either:
o your video card has a broken overlay, or
o there is some conflict with a previous codec on your system (ie two ffdshows or similar). Can you please download the CCCP Insurgent (from the cccp website frontpage) and post a test render on the offending file? Be aware this test render will show the full filename & path of the file, you might want to obfustucate it.

[sl3ooo]

i still need codecs for the DirectShow based players, right?
or can i uninstall everything but the
"FFdshow + Haali Splitter (sometimes) + Player of your choose"?
:o

[kurt]

ffdshow + haali splitter + mpc/zoomplayer/... is enough in most cases :)

[<><]

what exactly does haali splitter do? I have ffdshow installed w/ MPC but not using haali splitter....

thanks

[kurt]

haali splitter is a media splitter. It splits your videos (mp4, mkv, avi..) in a video and audio part and sent them forward to the registered decoders.

mpc has its own build_in splitter (by gabest), which is also recommended. Haali has some more features (tray icon, instant language switching, shell extension for mkv/avi...)
look here for more info: http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/