ESS Compatibility and resolution

[Happygolucky]

I have a Philips DVP642 standalone player which uses the ESS chipset to play standard DiVX and Xvid AVI files. For the most part the AVIs I have work well. However, some that I have are captures from HD sources and the resolution of the original AVI is frequently in the 960x5xx range. The player refuses to load these, saying the resolution is not supported. So I run AutoGK (2.40) to re-encode the AVI, but even though I have ESS standalone support enabled, AutoGK will default to re-encoding with the same unsupported resolution. I go to the advanced settings to set the maximum width to 720, but shouldn't the ESS compatibility setting automatically trigger that?

I know it is a "nitpicky" question, but with more and more people discovering how convenient these players are to play their AVI files, it could be an issue.

And yes, I read the FAQs and the guides and performed a search here.

[BigDid]

... I go to the advanced settings to set the maximum width to 720, but shouldn't the ESS compatibility setting automatically trigger that?
Hi

The ESS option was made in "prehistoric" time (about 3 years ago :D ) There was no HD resolution input at that time; AGK had to be updated to accept higher input thant 720*xxx

And yes, I read the FAQs and the guides and performed a search here.
You may have not seen the player buyers guide sticky and thread, very helpful and you may need to read it if you plan to encode at higher resolutions than 720 width cause only recent SAP will play these files.

Did

[SeeMoreDigital]

....However, some that I have are captures from HD sources and the resolution of the original AVI is frequently in the 960x5xx range. The player refuses to load these, saying the resolution is not supported.Hmmm....

Captured these at 960x5xx yourself have you?

[Happygolucky]

Hmmm....

Captured these at 960x5xx yourself have you?

:stupid:

Is that even relevant to my question? Whether I did or not is not of your concern. I asked a question about the software for which this forum is dedicated, not a snide off-topic remark.

[Happygolucky]

Hi

The ESS option was made in "prehistoric" time (about 3 years ago :D ) There was no HD resolution input at that time; AGK had to be updated to accept higher input thant 720*xxx

That's logical. I can always set the "maximum width" param should I have a higher resolution source.

You may have not seen the player buyers guide sticky and thread, very helpful and you may need to read it if you plan to encode at higher resolutions than 720 width cause only recent SAP will play these files.

Did
I did check the player guide, however it seems there are very limited options where I live. The Philips player is the only one I've found locally. It is advertised as "You have it, we play it" but obviously that does have some limitations. I could find no parameters on resolution in the manual so I will assume it is set for 720 width.

Thank you for answering my question, I appreciate that.

[BigDid]

Is that even relevant to my question? Whether I did or not is not of your concern...
Hemm

Yes it is of our concern regarding rule6: offering advices on illegally obtained copyrighted content.

I did check the player guide
So you may have missed this post from SeeMoreDigital: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=902631#post902631

Did

[Happygolucky]

Hemm

Yes it is of our concern regarding rule6: offering advices on illegally obtained copyrighted content.


But automatically assuming someone is doing something illegal is not very friendly, especially then accusing me of violating a rule. I did not mention anything about the source for my files because that was immaterial to the question being asked. The sources are legal, by the way.

I apologize for asking a simple question, I didn't realize it would be met with insulting accusations not based on any factual evidence. I had done several searches but the number of responses was overwhelming to sift through.

Thank you again for the information for which I originally requested.

[Happygolucky]

BTW, the captures in question were sent to me by a friend, an artist who works in digital media. He is incorporating some stills and video clips of my dying 18 year old cat into a piece that he wanted me to see to get my opinion. He output in HD resolutions not realizing that my player would not accept them. To prevent him from having to re-encode/upload, I thought I could just re-encode the ones I already have to a lower resolution.

I did not consider that I had to explain all that just to get an answer to a simple question. My fault.

[celtic_druid]

So your friend made a HD video of your dying cat, then captured it and re-encoded instead of just working with the file??

You can see why people would think it more likely that you downloaded a HR.HDTV rip of some TV show since they are 960x544 or so.

[Freakazoidalmaniac]

Sigh, you guys really need to chill out, perhaps before you all go on a witch hunt please feel free to do the following:

1. Answer with insightful information to help him.

2. Quote the rules and then add nothing else.

Please feel free to STFU if you're here NOT to help, but think you're being humorous by adding your witty sarcastic comments.

Either help or don't.

[jggimi]

Possible Rule 6 issue prompt questions, primarily because Rule 6 bans assistance.

Please make note of it.

[Happygolucky]

So your friend made a HD video of your dying cat, then captured it and re-encoded instead of just working with the file??

You can see why people would think it more likely that you downloaded a HR.HDTV rip of some TV show since they are 960x544 or so.He used still pictures and video that I sent him in an artistic compilation which combined them with his own works. The output was in HD format. Are you not familiar with digital artistry or how they work? They are not simply capturing and re-encoding stuff.

BTW, I successfully used AutoGK to re-encode the files using the Maximum Width parameter. Someone on another forum kindly pointed me in that direction.

[celtic_druid]

So we go from:
captures from HD sources
to
The output was in HD format
are not simply capturing and re-encoding stuff

Rule 4:
Profanity and insults will not be tolerated.

Does an insult to peoples intelligence not count as an insult?

We also go from multiple HD captures, most of which are 960x??? To just one source.

[Happygolucky]

So we go from:
captures from HD sources
to
The output was in HD format
are not simply capturing and re-encoding stuff

Rule 4:
Profanity and insults will not be tolerated.

Does an insult to peoples intelligence not count as an insult?

We also go from multiple HD captures, most of which are 960x??? To just one source.

I used the term "capture" incorrectly in the first posting, perhaps that is what caused the confusion. I'm not a professional nor well-versed in the world of digital video, so different terms can be confusing. I do not possess the ability to "capture" video nor would I know where to look for anything like a "captured" television show. I leave the recording of TV programs to my TiVO. There were multiple sources as I have several files from the artist which needed to be converted.

Where did I insult anyone's intelligence? I still fail to understand that accusation here.

I think some people read far more into a post than is really intended. I am a novice when it comes to video and I may use terms incorrectly that professionals or hobbyists may take in a way that is different from my intent. I've used programs like DVD2SVCD successfully for quite a while but don't really know much about the underlying programs or settings, and just now getting around to using something like AutoGK, which is also confusing at times.

[SeeMoreDigital]

I think some people read far more into a post than is really intended.Perhaps it would be better if this thread was closed. And you started your request again - After a little more thought!

[Happygolucky]

Perhaps it would be better if this thread was closed. And you started your request again - After a little more thought!

I have no problem with this thread being closed, I found the information I needed elsewhere, without the accusations.

[Freakazoidalmaniac]

Is there not a rule for making unproven accusations? Is your avatar an ass or a horse?

Congratulations to Celtic and SeeMore for being totally unhelpful but otherwise very talented in quoting rules. Good job on bringing zero help to this thread!

So we go from:
captures from HD sources
to
The output was in HD format
are not simply capturing and re-encoding stuff

Rule 4:
Profanity and insults will not be tolerated.

Does an insult to peoples intelligence not count as an insult?

We also go from multiple HD captures, most of which are 960x??? To just one source.

[jggimi]

That's it.

Thread closed.