Playing MOV files with MPC and ffdshow

[Waleska]

Can someone tell me how to do it?, I can't seem to.

:thanks:

[foxyshadis]

In MPC's options, look in internal filters, and make sure MP4/MOV is checked. (Alternately, install haali's filter, then just rename all the movs to mp4s. Bond hates this, but it usually works.) Then just make sure all the applicable ffdshow decoders are set - mpeg4 generic, AVC/h.264, h.263, cinepak, svq1, svq3, 8bps, qtrle, qrpza, DV, Indeo 2 & 3, and whatever else you feel like. That about covers most quicktime codecs. You'll need ffdshow tryouts for some of these.

[Waleska]

They were already enabled since I had "set all stable formats to libavcodec" on, but thanks anyways.

This is the video I'm trying to watch: http://www.shynola.com/movies/j_s/moveyourfeet.mov

Sound plays fine, but no image.

[HeadBangeR77]

Renaming the extension from 'mov' to 'mp4' should reduce your cpu usage, at least in my case it has been so (could help with HD clips): from 100% (QuickTime Alternative and quicktime's own decoding) down to 50-70% (ffdshow's H264 decoding) for 720i HD stuff.

Before I forget: Athlon XP-M @ 11x220, 2x512MB Mushkin PC3200 L.II V2 etc.

EDIT : Plays fine by me, it's just a simple mov - funny stuff :D

[Waleska]

Well, I can't even see the image so the CPU usage is still as low as it can be ;)

[HeadBangeR77]

General #0
Complete name : D:\TEMP\moveyourfeet.mov
Format : QuickTime
Format/Info : Original Apple specifications
Format/Family : MPEG-4
File size : 5.16 MiB
PlayTime : 3mn 26s
Bit rate : 210 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2002-07-25 12:03:06
Tagged date : UTC 2002-07-25 03:07:00

Video #0
Codec : png
PlayTime : 3mn 26s
Bit rate : 183 Kbps
Width : 90 pixels
Height : 72 pixels
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
StreamSize : 4.49 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2002-07-25 03:03:06
Tagged date : UTC 2002-07-25 03:07:00

Audio #0
Codec : Qdesign 2
PlayTime : 3mn 25s
Bit rate : 353 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 44 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 8.66 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2002-07-25 03:03:06
Tagged date : UTC 2002-07-25 03:07:00

PNG??? :eek:

[Waleska]

What ffdshow and MPC builds are you using?, got the latest ones from http://ffdshow.faireal.net/ . And just for the record, the video plays best in fullscreen + nearest neighbor resizer, for obvious reasons :)

[HeadBangeR77]

Well, I just wanted to give a tip on mov => mp4 renaming, and didn't know the clip was so simple ;) It seems to me that QuickTime Alternative is at work here, instead of ffdshow. Could it be the video format is just a set of *.png pictures? :o

In case it might help somehow:
ffdshow_rev735_20070102_xxl (from sourceforge.net)
MPC - the latest (December 2006), compiled by Celtic Druid

good luck!

[foxyshadis]

You'll want to make sure that PNG (called CorePNG in ffdshow) is enabled, that should allow it to decode properly.

[dumbuser]

Ya! CoreAVC, QT and Mplayer play it, but the timing is screwed. Picture is late.

[Waleska]

You'll want to make sure that PNG (called CorePNG in ffdshow) is enabled, that should allow it to decode properly.

It is, but doesn't work :(

Can you see the video?.

[clsid]

Gabest's splitter doesn't recognize the video track.

[Waleska]

Can this be fixed/implemented for a future build?

[HeadBangeR77]

Only MPC + QuickTime Alternative wok fine for me atm ...
Strange thing to use loosless video format for such a small clip.

To be honest: QTA - over 50MB after installation and slow decoding speed vs. ffdshow - the answer is obvious ;)

[Waleska]

Strange thing to use loosless video format for such a small clip

Actually it is not. The video is pure lowres pixel art and you can't add compression artifacts without making it look like trash ;)

[HeadBangeR77]

Just an idea - if Gabest's splitter doesn't recognize the video track, as stated above, just try M$ default AVI splitter (I use it instead of Gabest, behaves much better by seeking in large files, at least by me).

I obviously should sleep more (AVI and MOV, gosh) :p
I've tried ffdshow png support and it seems to work with Gabest splitter disabled in the filter config of PC.

As to the video source - I get it now, thanks (always learning, always learning ;) )

[Waleska]

Well, I have Quicktime installed so I can simply tell MPC to use it instead of DirectShow if I feel like watching the vid, but I'd prefer not having to rely on Quicktime for doing so.

[Gew]

Yet another late night bump from my side of town. Sorry for any inconvenience, but it would be dandy to mark this issue as fine. As I recall it, I've been able to play .MOV files containing MJPEG and PCM (produced by a DSC) in eg. Windoze 2K/XP in earlier days. I mean in Windows Player more or less out of the box. I don't think I've ever had the official Quicktime package installed. I always have ffdshow installed though, and my preferred media player is MPC. Well, now, having installed Windows 7 and I get "Cannot render the file". I've checked MJPEG for 'libavcodec' both under "rundll32 ff_vfw.dll,configureVFW" and "rundll32 %programfiles%\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax,configure". But perhaps these filter settings only apply to files with the .AVI extension? I'm no expert so :^ Also, I can open the .MOV with Avidemux and play it with eg. VLC without problems. I also tried a simple "ffmpeg -i PICT123.MOV -vcodec copy -acodec copy footesting.avi", and guess what? I could open the same contant in MPC now, when wrapped in an AVI? So, guys, what's your best suggestion for me to be able to pop .MOV in MPC (or WMP) without having to install Apple Quicktime (or QuickTime Alternative)..?

Ty in adv~
Regards~

[Chikuzen]

I think that your problem is not decoder issue but demuxer issue.
Try installing LAV Splitter.

[Gew]

LAV splitter as in LAV Filters (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1485648)?
Haven't given that one a try. I finally installed QT-Alternative Lite.
It works now, but another option would be naughty nice.

:thanks: