VobBlanker 2.1.3.0 released (6th-May-2007)

[jsoto]

VobBlanker 2.1.3 starts here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=999819#post999819)


I have some time these days, so I've coded the multiple split feature
Still not really in beta stage (needs to be tested deeply and completed with more features), but here it is a new thread for the new development.


Added: Multiple splits per cell. Up to 32 split points can be defined per cell in the same VobBlanker session.
Added: GOP type and Cell elapsed time are shown in Preview
Improvement?: GOP type detection now accepts first video pack in a non standard position
Change: Open GOP warning completely removed
Change: Confusing message when ILV-ed cells are detected.
BugFix: When removing unreferenced cells and renumbering, VOB pointers fixing phase was working with the list including the cells to be deleted, so some cells were adjusted twice.
BugFix: Adding chapters when splitting cells could fail in some rare conditions
BugFix: VobBlanker was not launching the fixing pointer phase when a cell number mismatch was detected replacing cells/pgcs


jsoto

[blutach]

Change: Confusing message when pointers mismatch between C_ADT and PGC_Playback tables.@jsoto

What's changed here? This was a very informative message!

Regards

[jsoto]

Bah, it's a cosmetic change, and, sorry, the changelog was not describing the message corrected. I've reedited my post and changed the changelog ...

The message modified is
Before:
"There are at least one ILV Cell.
The VTSs containing these cells have been marked as SKIP.
You can process them, but playback problems can appear
in all PGCs originally containing ILV cells except the first one"

Now:
"There are at least one ILV Cell.
The VTSs containing these cells have been marked as SKIP.
You can process them, but playback problems (small pauses).
can appear in all PGCs originally containing ILV cells."

BTW, seems there is a typo... should be "There is at least.."

jsoto

EDIT: The message "before" was correct in VobBlanker 1.XX, when VobBlanker was processing the VOB files by PGCs, but not valid in VobBlanker 2.XX

[SYL]

Added: GOP type and Cell elapsed time are shown in Preview

jsoto

In the “CELL PREVIEW/ CUT MODE” you would put the elapsed Mega Bytes too, as the slider is running.

In this beta the elapsed time is showed only when the video is stopped.

Thank you for Vobblanker 2.1.2.0 and for the continuous improvement.

[jsoto]

In the “CELL PREVIEW/ CUT MODE” you would put the elapsed Mega Bytes too, as the slider is running.
I thought on it, but the elapsed amount of bytes (of the Cell) is just 2048*sector, so ...

In this beta the elapsed time is showed only when the video is stopped. Yes, this preview is oriented to editing, not to play a title. Modify these values (time and may be the slider) needs modifications in DVDPreview class, written by jeanl, and shared by (at least) three aplications. I think it has no too much sense.
Note the time shown is the "elaopsed time" of the cell, not the PGC one. It is oriented to do the splits in a time-controlled point

BTW, clicking on info, you can see the audio timestamp running when the video plays...

jsoto

[Drinken]

Is it possible to make to that the preview and info windows stay inside of the viewable area of the screen? As it is now the infowindow always open half way off screen here. Not a big deal, but it would be nice.

[jsoto]

Which resolution are you using? 800x600 maybe?

Preview window always pops-up at the left of main VobBlanker window, so, if your main window fits, preview should fit too.
Info window: I never took too much attention to this dialog..
I have to delete some fields there (done just now), but I really like its "floating" behaviour.

jsoto

[Drinken]

Sorry I was a bit unclear, the main preview window is ok, it's the info window that allways open half way off screen, at the bottom. The counter is just outside of view. I'm running 1152x864 so that shouldn't be a problem. :)

Oh, and I got the task bar at the top.

[r0lZ]

IIRC, if you move it somewhere else, it should remember the location, and opens at the same place the next time.

[TheShadowRunner]

I have some kind of a n00b question; sorry in advance.
I have a DVD9 is that i authored myself but unfortunately i cannot burn in on DVD-R DL because the layer break isn't positionned exactly where it should, as explained by the great folks over at the imgburn forum.
I know i need a DVD+R DL for the burn to be alright but i was wondering if this new version allowed to make a proper cut in order to burn on DVD-R DL?
Thanks for the info.
Later,

TSR

[Robotik]

Added: Multiple splits per cell. Up to 32 split points can be defined per cell in the same VobBlanker session.


GLORIA IN EXCELSIS!

Happy happy new year!

[Robotik]

@ TheShadowRunner,

i've never tried to burn dl, so, right now i'm just talking out of my ass, don't take it for granted, but, i guess you should split cells using VobBlanker, until they fit on one layer, and use PgcEdit to determine a layer break at the next cell.
anyone wiser than me, please correct me if i'm wrong

[jsoto]

@Drinken
I still do not understand exactly your problem. Could you post an image (www.imageshack.us) with how the dialogs pop up in your PC?

These are how they pop up in my PC (configured at 1024x768)
VobBlanker 2120
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3535/vb212aq6.th.jpg (http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vb212aq6.jpg)

VobBlanker 2130beta3 (not public, after removing some not valid fields in info dlg, and after changing the fonts to the same size than in other dialogs)
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1764/vb213cb1.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vb213cb1.jpg)

IIRC, if you move it somewhere else, it should remember the location, and opens at the same place the next time.Note this happens only with VobBlanker's main dialog.

EDIT: Preview and Info windows should open in a fixed position (as shown in figures) relative to VobBlanker's main dialog.

jsoto

[Robotik]

@ jsoto,

could you please get rid of the
'Filename has to be "*_01.VOB" if you want to split the output'
warning in case the extracted file < 1 GB and named otherwise?
or alternatively auto-deselect 'split output in multiple files' with small files?

thanks a lot

[jsoto]

I know i need a DVD+R DL for the burn to be alright but i was wondering if this new version allowed to make a proper cut in order to burn on DVD-R DL?I have few experience on DL, may be r0lZ can help...Yes, VobBlanker can cut some parts of the movie, but why do you need a DVD+R DL ?
jsoto

[jsoto]

GLORIA IN EXCELSIS!
Happy happy new year!Happy New Year to you too. I've just finished my short holidays yesterday... snif!

could you please get rid of the
'Filename has to be "*_01.VOB" if you want to split the output'
warning in case the extracted file < 1 GB and named otherwise?
or alternatively auto-deselect 'split output in multiple files' with small files?
I see..., I can change the default or accept the name in any case....
jsoto

[Susana]

I have some kind of a n00b question; sorry in advance.
I have a DVD9 is that i authored myself but unfortunately i cannot burn in on DVD-R DL because the layer break isn't positionned exactly where it should, as explained by the great folks over at the imgburn forum.
I know i need a DVD+R DL for the burn to be alright but i was wondering if this new version allowed to make a proper cut in order to burn on DVD-R DL?
Thanks for the info.
Later,

TSR

If you don't have any point that meets layer break requirements, you can uses PGCEdit (burning dl process) which tells you which cell you have to split. Then split that cell. Repeat this process till...

[TheShadowRunner]

Hi guys, thanks a lot for your answers; all very appreciated.
The problem is that the layer break on DVD-R DL appears to be fixed while it can be "moved" on DVD+R DL if i understood correctly.
(Many helping guys and LIGHTNING himself confirmed it on this thread http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=2928 )
Which means that either i reauthor all the DVD9 (which is impossible for me to do since i erased the source material ^^;), or I need to gab DVD+R DL.
Since i still have a few DVD-R DL, I wanted to make sure i can't do it with nowadays tools before i go with +R DL ;)

My main problem is that when a DVD-R DL is inserted in the drive, then PCGEdit reports that it cannot find a suitable cell that needs to be splitted so i'm lost as to which cell to split in VobBlanker..
Later,

TSR

[Susana]

On DVD-R (DL) both the last sector LBA on L0 and the first sector LBA on L1 are fixed. What PgcEdit does is a workaround by shifting the video content until the Layer Break matches the first sector on L1. But in every case the burner has to write the fully size of the two layers = 8.5 GB. For DVD+R (DL) last sector on L0 may be anyone.

But this is transparent to you. Doesn't PGCEdit tell you what cell you have to split ?

[Drinken]

I guess the problem I'm having is because I got the main window all the way down at the bottom of the screen. I didn't know that the preview window opened in a fixed position relative to the main window... can you change it so the info window is in line with the preview window?
Hmm wait, it looks like the non public beta already does that, thanks! :)

[TheShadowRunner]

Susana, no; i get the following error when trying to create an ISO from my DVD9 folder:
---------------------------
PgcEdit: Burn DL DVD
---------------------------
Can't find a suitable cell for the layer break!

Try to change the order of the titlesets with DVD -> Remap Titlesets, or remove some
unnecessary material.

Note for expert users:
Given the minimal ISO file size (4106770 sectors) and the capacity of your DL DVD+R,
the LB must be between absolute sectors 2020928 and 2085856 in the ISO.
The absolute starting sector of the VOB files of the Title domain of VTS 2 is 1382524.
The LB cell must begin between relative sectors 638404 and 703332 in that domain.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

Any ideas?
Thanks,

TSR

[r0lZ]

The message means that you have to split the main movie in VTS 2 between sectors 638404 and 703332. Normally PgcEdit gives you another info: the title and cell numbers that must be cut. Are you sure you are using the latest version?

Anyway, you can use VobBlanker to split your main movie at the right position. Here is how:

Load the DVD and select the line beginning with VTS_02_*.VOB. Then, double-click on the line in the lower pane. (If there are several lines in the lower pane, that's a little bit more complex. Post here again if it's the case.)

Now, you should see the cells window.
If there is only one cell in that window, it's easy: click on it.
If there are several cells, you have to locate the cell you need to cut. One sector is 2KB long, and VobBlanker gives you the length of the cells (in MB.) It should be easy, with a calculator, to find the right cell. Select it. (Or see the note below.)

Now, click on the "Split" button. Use the slider (in the upper left part of the window) and move it somewhere between LBAs 638404 and 703332 (if there is only one cell) or between those LBAs minus the length (in sectors) of the preceding cells.

Try to find a good point where you will not notice the little pause, but still in the valid range. Press Mark, untick Add Program and Chapter (unless you want to create a new chapter at that point) then OK your way to the main window, and process the domain. That's all.


Note: If you think it's too difficult to compute the starting sectors of the cells yourself, you can also note the starting VOBU of the cells with the PGC Editor of PgcEdit:
Double-click on the main title of VTS2 (a line beginning with VTST 2). The cell to split must have an Entry VOBU Sector less than 638404 and a Last VOBU Start greater than 703332. Remember the Entry VOBU Sector value. In VobBlanker, select the same cell, and split it between 638404-entry VOBU and 703332-entry VOBU.

[r0lZ]

BTW, there is also something else you can try. Since your main movie is in VTS 2, that means that you have also a VTS 1 (and perhaps also VTS 3 etc...)
You can try to modify the order of the VTSs. With some luck, that might be sufficiewnt to have a cell starting at the right position. However, if VTS 1 (and 3, 4...) are very short (for example if you have blanked them) it's probably useless.
To reorganize the VTSs, use PgcEdit -> DVD -> Remap Titlesets.

[jsoto]

Could be interesting to show the absolute starting sector in Cell list?
EDIT: And in preview too, I think...

[r0lZ]

Yes, in cases like this one, it's undoubtly an useful information!

[Robotik]

hi, i'm using 2.1.2.0 final, i accidentally clicked on default settings, and it was saved automatically, so i had to redo the whole thing.
could it be like, it just sets everything to default, but the user have to save if he likes it that way, so no 'accidents' can happen?
thanks

[Robotik]

also, i have a question concerning smart gaps
in each vts vob files always get between ifo's and bup's, no matter if they are title or menu vobs, is that correct?

[Robotik]

another thing, i create the image file with shrink, and it says the 70 kB smart gap for the title menus (shown as unreferenced material) is only 10 kB. VIDEO_TS.VOB is 70 kB, i checked it, so why shrink's wrong?

[r0lZ]

also, i have a question concerning smart gaps
in each vts vob files always get between ifo's and bup's, no matter if they are title or menu vobs, is that correct?Yes, that's right.

[r0lZ]

another thing, i create the image file with shrink, and it says the 70 kB smart gap for the title menus (shown as unreferenced material) is only 10 kB. VIDEO_TS.VOB is 70 kB, i checked it, so why shrink's wrong?Probably because you have also some material that is referenced. VB adds only what is necessary for the smart gap.
Or, maybe Shring keeps only the real cell, and not the stuffing packs, which are disgarded anyway. (IIRC, VB creates a 10KB cell and fills the remaining sectors with stuffing packs.)
Anyway, do not use shrink after VB, or the smart gaps will be lost.

[Robotik]

yep, smart gaps got lost. thanks anyway.
what do you use for iso file creation? or is it ok to burn files directly with nero?
sorry for being off-topic

[r0lZ]

Do NOT use Nero to burn double-layer DVDs, espacially on DVD-Rs!

ImgBurn is far superior, free, and has a very good GUI to select the layer break position. It is also very good to burn single layer DVDs. I use it always, and haven't burned a coster yet!

Anyway, dual-layer DVD-Rs should be avoided, as the -R technology is very... let's say, "special". Use only good quality DL DVD+Rs.

[jsoto]

hi, i'm using 2.1.2.0 final, i accidentally clicked on default settings, and it was saved automatically, so i had to redo the whole thing.
could it be like, it just sets everything to default, but the user have to save if he likes it that way, so no 'accidents' can happen?
thanksI suposse you're talking about main menu. OK, I'll ask for confirmation.
In the more settings dialog you have to confirm with "Apply", so no "accidents" should happen.

jsoto

[jsoto]

yep, smart gaps got lost. thanks Remember you can re-create the gap sectors w/o running a VobBlanker session. Just open the DVD (before burning or creating the ISO image) it and, using main menu, do "Adjust sectors-> In input folder"

jsoto

[jsoto]

Yes, in cases like this one, it's undoubtly an useful information!I've added the absolute sector only in the preview dialog. Adding it in Cells list makes the list larger and with too many columns.. But you can open the preview dialog in a particular cell to locate its absolute sector.

jsoto

[r0lZ]

Perfect!

[Robotik]

thank you, and... thanks again
btw, can you name a nice iso creation tool? so far i've used Shrink for iso creation & ImgBurn for burning, but it seems i have to retire Shrink in the final phase if i want smart gaps

[Robotik]

i can't wait to try multiple split, it was the top of my wish list. the gui looks great, but nothing at hand right now that needs that kind of treatment. anyway, i'll report as soon as i try it.

[TheShadowRunner]

r0lZ, thank you VERY much for your detailed tutorial on post #22 of this thread.
I am indeed using the latest PgcEdit version, taken off your page.
Since there was only 1 Cell line in the Cell Window, it was extremely easy.
I splitted somewhere around LBA 650000 and am burning right now with IMGBurn, which now has auto-detected the layer break properly.
I will amend this post in about 20 minutes hopefully with a success report!
Thanks again very much for your help!
About reorganizing the VTS in PgcEdit, i dropped the idea because all my VTS (i had 3 of them) were sensibly the same sizes.
Regards,

TSR

[r0lZ]

Thanks for the feedback. :)

Note that you might try to reorganize the VTS anyway, as even if they are the same size, there might be more or less cells inside ecah VTS, and they are probably not the same size. But, of course, if all VTS are made of only one big cell, the trick cannot work.

[TheShadowRunner]

Ok, i'll keep that in mind (the re-organize VTS trick) for next time ;)
The DVD9 was burnt flawlessly and the layer break is almost seamless so everything is great!
Thanks again for your time ;)
Regards,

TSR

[SYL]

Remember you can re-create the gap sectors w/o running a VobBlanker session. Just open the DVD (before burning or creating the ISO image) it and, using main menu, do "Adjust sectors-> In input folder"

jsoto

That’s exactly what I would ask you, because sometimes I have to compress the DVD, even blanking some or all the extras due to the movie’s length or some extras I want to keep, and I need to use DVDShrink after VobBlanker.

As I want to start using VobBlanker’s Smart GAPs and read from our fellows that DVDShrink removes it, so in these cases, I can use VobBlanker’s "Adjust sectors-> In input folder" after DVDShrink compressing and before burn with Nero, to create the smart gaps, don’t having to waste more time processing with VobBlanker again.

Did I understand it right? Does DVDShrink always removes the Smart GAPS?
Thanks.

[blutach]

Not sure if it would. The files are there, even if unreferenced. DVD Shrink's GetVTSSectors routine is entirely standard and would not remove the Gaps. In fact, as I see it, there are no gaps in VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm)'s methodology - there are real files. SO, I think DVD Shrink would be fine (unless you did it in re-author mode).

Regards

[r0lZ]

I'm not so sure. VobBlanker's smart gaps contain stuffing packs. Since Shrink must, well, shrink the DVD, it is probable that it will remove the stuffing packs. Therefore, the VOB file will still be present, but not have the same length.
It is easy to test that, but in the meantime, IMO, it is safer to add the smart gaps just before burning.

[Robotik]

Shrink surely does remove stuffing packs, and doesn't even give you a choice
here's the latest dvd i've done.
this is the way it was before i ran VobBlanker, note that video_ts.vob doesn't exist:
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1438/1beforegapssu3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

this is the way it was after smart gaps were inserted:
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5207/2aftergapsiw2.gif (http://imageshack.us)

in Shrink you can see, that the 'title menus' in the unreferenced material section is blue, so it is changed in spite of the whole dvd's compression settings are set to 'no compression' and the only audio stream it has is set to be kept, Shrink is in 'full disc backup' mode, and the dvd is a way smaller than a DVD-5, anyway. also you can see 'title menus' size is shown to be 10 kB, even though the vob file is 70 kB:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3994/3inshrinkjw7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

after Shrink created the iso file and used ImgBurn to burn it on dvd, the end product looks like this:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8020/4aftershrinkwm9.gif (http://imageshack.us)

there is only a 10 kB vob file left, that's the blank cell without padding packs.

[blutach]

@Robotik - can't see your attachments.

But, I obviously stand corrected. Thanks to you and r0lZ for the info.

Regards

[Robotik]

@blutach

i've messed up something with attachments, never tried to include pictures in my posts. unfortunately i deleted the pictures from the computer, so i'll recreate them. not to be a smartass, just for later reference if someone needs it.

EDIT: now it's correct, i guess

[Robotik]

@jsoto

is it possible / wouldn't it be better to use only real files for GAPs, not file+padding? this way programs like Shrink (dunno if other progams do it like that) wouldn't mess up the great job VobBlanker does.

[jsoto]

I'm using padding packs becasue they allow me to adjust exactly the number of sectors. If not, I would need a lot of blank cells, of all the possible different sizes. Other posibility is to use audio packs coded with silences, but in the case of growing an existing menu, the same audio parameters (code, bitrate, # of channels, etc) should be used...too complex.

In any case, smart GAPs use unreferenced material. So, even if it wouldn't use padding packs, a program will be able to remove the whole unreferenced cell.

So, use VobBlanker "adjust sectors" just before burn if you want to have the smart GAPs.

jsoto

[jsoto]

I have fixed an important bug splitting cells reported by r0lZ (Thanks!) , and also some problems reading severely corrupted IFOs...
VobBlanker_2130 betas (http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/betas/)
: Please use beta 4, beta 3 has an internal pointer corrupted

Added: Absolute sector in preview
Changed: Elapsed and duration times: hours are represented in one digit
Changed: Info in preview uses normal fonts. Deleted non-valid fields.
Changed: Errors compacted when loading a DVD with multiple errors in menus
BugFix: Only 98 VTS were supported
BugFix: Negative (wrong) pointers in IFOs made VobBlanker crash
BugFix: Chapters table wrong when splitting cells
BugFix: Settings in main dialog were lost opening more settings dialog
BugFix: 32K smart GAP default setting was different in more settings dialog and main menu


jsoto

[Robotik]

I'm using padding packs becasue they allow me to adjust exactly the number of sectors. If not, I would need a lot of blank cells, of all the possible different sizes. Other posibility is to use audio packs coded with silences, but in the case of growing an existing menu, the same audio parameters (code, bitrate, # of channels, etc) should be used...too complex.


i've seen 1-frame blank cells without audio/subs up to 300 kB on commercial dvds, i don't know how they do it, but anyway, yeah, i don't think it's worth the effort to figure it out.

does ImgBurn accept dvd files for input? that way i can pass Shrink for iso creation. (i'm not at home right now, can't check it)

[r0lZ]

Yes, ImgBurn v2 has a Build mode to burn directly the DVD files to disc (or to create an ISO.) Very nicely done! Try it!

[Robotik]

thanks, it seems i'm going to change my habits

[jsoto]

Sorry
beta 3 has an internal pointer corrupted (TMAPTI). I think it wasn't dangerous, because TMAPTI is built from scratch, but you never know, so please use beta4.

jsoto

[blutach]

@jsoto

I am getting Runtime error 9 in DVD Rebuilder (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/) after using smart gaps in VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) Beta 4.

Was this not fixed somewhere?

Regards

[jsoto]

@jsoto
I am getting Runtime error 9 in DVD Rebuilder What does Runtime error 9 mean?. I'm not too familiar with DVD-RB... The DVD to be used as input in DVD-RB opens fine in shrink, doesn't it?

Was this not fixed somewhere?No, I do not remember that.

May be DVD-RB does not like padding packs... I'll do some tests this weekend.

jsoto

[blutach]

Hola Jesus!

Runtime 9 is some sort of error that DVDRB doesn't like the input. I'll follow up with jdobbs as to exactly what it is.

I have done some more tests. It croaked on a VOB of 10k the first one inserted by smart gaps - I thought this was a strange size because it wouldn't get a 32k gap in total). Other VOBs with padding packs were accepted. Perhaps the frame was incomplete, though this is unlikely. I removed all small VOBs inserted by VB with FixVTS and ran Adjust Sectors again. This time DVDRB is happy, including the padding packs.

May be input error on my part. In any event, it's silly for me to adjust sectors with smart gaps before Rebuilder.

I wouldn't worry for now.

Thanks for looking into it for me.

Regards

[jsoto]

It croaked on a VOB of 10k the first one inserted by smart gaps - I thought this was a strange size because it wouldn't get a 32k gap in total).
It can happen in the case of a small title VOB. If the VOB is too small, VobBlanker creates a menu VOB to shift the BUP up to 1/2 turn, and the result can be any size (minimum 10K, which is the blank cell itself).

I wouldn't worry for now.OK, but if I find some time I'll do some tests..

jsoto

[jsoto]

Seems I've broken the "split when cutting inside" feature in latests betas... Don't worry, you'll notice if you try to use it, because VobBlanker stops with an error.
jsoto

[jinjin_jp]

I tested to creat small gap.
At first I prepared DVD-Video by DVDShrink Re-Author mode.
It arranged altenatively 13 VTSs that odd number is 8KB and even number is about 600-1000MB.
The result (newly created VTS) are
VIDEO_TS.VOB：66KB(*1)
VTS_01_0.VOB：60KB(*2)
VTS_03_0.VOB：82KB
VTS_05_0.VOB：96KB
VTS_07_0.VOB：112KB
VTS_09_0.VOB：126KB
VTS_11_0.VOB：138KB
VTS_13_0.VOB：34KB(*3)

(*1) I thought that innner file is 32KB.
(*2)I thought that more outer file is bigger. Should I see adding VTS_01_1.VOB(8KB)? It is 68KB and bigger than VIDEO_TS.VOB.
(*3)I thought that more outer file is bigger.
The result was not what I thought. Is there my misunderstanding?

Regards.

[jsoto]

Here is a complete description of the algorithm
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=902262#post902262

In the VMG , more or less 72KB are required (you have to substract the IFO size). This means 1.5 turns, becasue 0.5 turns is not enough to guarantee 32KB
The same for the first VTS...

And, in the last VTS it can be 34KB.., because there is more room per turn

jsoto

[jinjin_jp]

Here is a complete description of the algorithm
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...262#post902262
Thanks for the explanation. I read through,(It serves as a reference to me though I can't understand so much.)
But I can't from the link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HRUNZWRN). It isn't possible to see any longer?

In the VMG , more or less 72KB are required (you have to substract the IFO size). This means 1.5 turns, becasue 0.5 turns is not enough to guarantee 32KB
The same for the first VTS...
Quote from your another post(#89) in the thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=904047#post904047).
If VIDEO_TS.IFO final size is 16 KB after the processing...
The optimum size of the gap is 29KB -16KB = 13KB, so the starting point of both files (IFO & BUP) will be separated by 29KB (1/2 turn), but adding one turn to be larger than 32 KB
13KB+59KB= 72KB.
(1)VIDEO_TS.IFO final size is 20 KB after the processing.
.....the optimum size of the gap is 29KB -20KB = 9KB.
.....one turn to be larger than 32 KB, 9KB+59KB= 68KB.
----->created VIDEO_TS.VOB = 66kB.
(2)VTS_01_0.IFO final size is 18 KB after the processing, and VTS_01_1.VOB = 8KB.
.....the optimum size of the gap is 29KB -18KB -8KB = 3KB.
.....one turn to be larger than 32 KB, 3KB+59KB= 62KB.
----->created VTS_01_0.VOB = 60kB.
The result is almost same as you say, but each seem to be short by 2KB. Where did I miscalculete?

And, in the last VTS it can be 34KB.., because there is more room per turn
This means like below?
(3)VTS_13_0.IFO final size is 18 KB after the processing, and VTS_13_1.VOB = 8KB.
.....the optimum size of the gap is 60KB(this is my assumption) -18KB -8KB = 34KB.
.....no need to one turn to be larger than 32 KB.
----->created VTS_13_0.VOB = 34kB.

Regards.

[Sir Didymus]

Hi jinjin_jp !

Regarding the link, sorry for the trouble...
It depends I don't have a personal permanent area where to leave the document...
Well, it seems it was not a good idea to use Megaupload... Let's see if Sendspace is better...

here is the new link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0bjnur

I edited the broken link also in the original discussion.

Concerning the difficulties to understand the content, please consider that in the following page of the same discussion, a sample of "C like" code was also presented, as a reference...

Finally, since English is not my mothertongue, I admit the lack of synthesis and the very bad description in the referenced thread is entirely due to my faults. I am sure you understand what I mean... ;-)

In case you need further clarifications on the algorithm, please feel free to get in touch with me via PM...

Cheers,
SD

[jinjin_jp]

@Sir Didymus
Thanks for the new link. I almost understood about calculation except for several. May I ask question?
I couldn't understand
(1)the meaning of "Recording size(bit)" = "User Data Size(bit)" *1024/512.
and what I wanted to most know is
(2)how to calculate 59KB(29KB) and 142KB(58KB) of
--> 59 KB of data is the track lenght in the inner radius (24 mm of radius from the disc center); the storage of half track is 29 KB
--> 142 KB of data is the track lenght in the outern radius (58 mm); half track takes 71 KB
from xsl sheets.

Regards.

Edit(add)
I tried to calculate with using sheet ....
(1)in the inner radius:
INPUT User Data Size(MB) = 0.059 (=59KB)
if R1 = 24.8mm (I think R1 correcpond to area of files before smart gap.)
Nr of tracks corresponding to User Data Size =0
Angular remainder (in radiants) = 6.28 (I think 1 turn is pi x2).
(2)in the outer radius:
INPUT User Data Size(MB) = 0.142 (=142KB)
if R1 = 59.7mm (I think R1 correcpond to area of files before smart gap.)
Nr of tracks corresponding to User Data Size =0
Angular remainder (in radiants) = 6.28 (I think 1 turn is pi x2).

[jsoto]

The result is almost same as you say, but each seem to be short by 2KB. Where did I miscalculete?
2 KB is one pack. The error can be due a rounding or something like this. I'm not going to investigate it... it's only one pack

jsoto

[jsoto]

This means like below?
(3)VTS_13_0.IFO final size is 18 KB after the processing, and VTS_13_1.VOB = 8KB.
.....the optimum size of the gap is 60KB(this is my assumption) -18KB -8KB = 34KB.
.....no need to one turn to be larger than 32 KB.
----->created VTS_13_0.VOB = 34kB.

Exactly.

[Sir Didymus]

Hi Jinjin_jp

As Jsoto say, errors within the minimum allocation unit for DVD (which is 2K) are not meaningful; playing a little bit with the xls you can notice that 2K of data correspond to 5 mm...

The test I did so far show that smart gaps in VobBlanker are working OK...

If you want some specific clarifications on the function and usage of the xls, please PM me. There is no need to jeopardise this thread with a long discussion on a minor feature of VobBlanker.

Let me just add few notes since it seems the original discussion was not clear enough about the steps performed in the xls, that are as follow:

User Data Size (MB) <-- Input to the xls
User Data size (bit) <-- User Data Size (MB) * 1024 * 1024 * 8
Recording Size (bit) <-- User Data size (bit) * 1209 / 512
Linear Size (mm) <-- Recording Size (bit) * Channel bit lenght

Some constants are used in the calculations; e.g.
R1 --> minimum radius of the data area, 24 mm.
Track pitch --> 74 micrometers.
Channel bit length --> 0,1333 micrometers for SL discs

Since:
Linear Size = Teta * R1 + (Teta*Teta*Track Pitch / (4 * pi)), it is possible to calculate the value Teta (angular position) as a function of the linear Size.

In order to use the xls sheet, no values should be changed, other than the input one, in green, (User Data Size in MB).

It's really easier to use it than to explain...

By playing with the xls, you can see that filling in the value 0,0571 MB, the angular remainder (in radiants) is 6,2819 and the Nr of tracks corresponding to the User Data is 0;
You can see that filling in the value 0,0572 MB, the angular remainder (in radiants) is 0,0097 and the Nr of tracks corresponding to the User Data is now 1;

It means that at the inner radius, in order to complete a whole revolution, to pass from track #0 to track #1, you have to fill in 0,0572 MB of data, corresponding to 58,57 KB

At the outern radius,

You can see that filling in the value 4482,3784 MB, the angular remainder (in radiants) is 0,0021 and the Nr of tracks corresponding to the User Data is 45944;

You can see that filling in the value 4482,5164 MB, the angular remainder (in radiants) is 0,0015 and the Nr of tracks corresponding to the User Data is now 45945;

The difference 4482,5164 - 4482,3784 is 0,138 MB of data, corresponding to 141,31 KB

The position:
Recording Size (bit) <-- User Data size (bit) * 1209 / 512 takes into account both the 8/16 EFMPlus modulation and the error correction scheme, based on:

Sector size (user data) --> 2048 bytes
Logical Sector Size (data unit 1) --> 2064 bytes (2048 + 12 header + 4 EDC)
Recording Sector Size (data unit 2) --> 2366 bytes (2064 + 302 ECC)
Unmodulated physical sector (data unit 3) --> 2418 bytes (2366 + 52 synch)
Physical sector size --> 4836 bytes (2418 x 2 modulation)

I hope everything is clear...

The way to apply the algorithm to generate smart gaps is showed in the following picture:

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6711/explainationsmartgapkt8.th.gif (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=explainationsmartgapkt8.gif)

[jinjin_jp]

@jsoto
Thanks for the reply. I understood.(I will not worry about a trifling thing(2KB) according to your advice.)

@Sir Didymus
Thanks for the explanation.
I understood "how to calculate 59KB and 142KB".
And I can know the process of calculetion i.e, "Recording size(bit)" = "User Data Size(bit)" *1024/512, but it is difficult and understandable for me.
I'll use PM as you say when asking more question. Please help me if I ask.

Regards.

[Surf]

Senor Soto.

Two leetle requests:

1.) Can you make it optional that whenever I extract a cell it is in one file instead of being in two? Example, 1st is 1gig and the second is 300mb. I had to use Decrypter to circumvent the need. BTW it is a 1.3gig cell which represents a tv episode.

2.) I made a boo-boo once and the speaker was set out...all of a sudden VOBblanker bursted out with OOOH SSSH*T !!! The house went into a commotion...

[jsoto]

Two leetle requests:
1.) Can you make it optional that whenever I extract a cell it is in one file instead of being in two? Example, 1st is 1gig and the second is 300mb. I had to use Decrypter to circumvent the need. BTW it is a 1.3gig cell which represents a tv episodeIt is already an option. In Save file dialog you'll find an option at the bottom. It has been included in VobBlanker 2.1.2.

2.) I made a boo-boo once and the speaker was set out...all of a sudden VOBblanker bursted out with OOOH SSSH*T !!! The house went into a commotion...That's an easy one. Turn off your speaker :D
or rename/delete/substitute the wav file DoneKO.wav. Don't worry, if the file is not there, VobBlanker won't complain, it just won't play anything.

jsoto

[Robotik]

it's beta 6 (http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/betas/VobBlanker_2130b6_exe.zip) already! did i miss something?

btw, know it's yesterday's news but i have just tried the multiple split feature. it works like a charm! i'm really impressed, thanks a lot for it!

for anyone else as offset as i am here's a copy of the changelog from the Readme file:

Vers 2.1.3.0 beta 2
BugFix: Changing Cell number in preview was not updating Time and GOP type
BugFix: Special case where GOP type was not detected (was being marked as unknown)
BugFix: PGC unit table was being created empty in smart GAPs

Vers 2.1.3.0 beta 3
Added: Absolute sector in preview
Changed: Elapsed and duration times: hours are represented in one digit
Changed: Info in preview uses normal fonts. Deleted non-valid fields.
Changed: Errors compacted when loading a DVD with multiple errors in menus
BugFix: Only 98 VTS were supported
BugFix: Negative (wrong) pointers in IFOs made VobBlanker crash
BugFix: chapters table wrong when splitting cells
BugFix: Settings in main dialog were lost opening more settings dialog
BugFix: 32K smart GAP default was not always the same value

Vers 2.1.3.0 beta 4
BugFix: TMAPTI internal pointer corrupted. Bug introduced in beta 3

Vers 2.1.3.0 beta 5
Added: New key in Registry to activate log details when fixing packs
BugFix: "Cut inside" splitting was broken

Vers 2.1.3.0 beta 6
Added: Check the maixmum size of the output (menus and titles)
BugFix: In the case of 9 files in a VTS, the fixing packs procedure hanged

[jsoto]

it's beta 6 (http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/betas/VobBlanker_2130b6_exe.zip) already! did i miss something?
No, simply I had forgotten to announce it...
BTW, there is still a stupid bug in "cut inside" (Cut+Split) feature...VobBlanker stops with error if the cell is not the first one in the VOB file. Will be fixed in beta7.

jsoto

[jsoto]

VobBlanker_2130 beta7 (http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/betas/)

BugFix: "Cut inside" splitting still was broken in some cases

jsoto

[blutach]

Thanks jsoto!

Regards

[outsiders71]

jsoto:

A feature request if possible...

I love the cut feature with vobblanker, I can easily edit out scenes I do not want in my re-authored DVD. However sometimes there are multiple scenes in one cell that I want to cut. This means I will have to cut and process that cell X times. Is it possible that you could allow each cell to be marked and cut at multiple points instead of just one?

Thanks

[jsoto]

It could be done..., but if you're doing more than one "cut inside" I recomend you the following procedure (in only two runs)
1st run: Split the cell in as many parts as you need, better splitting in the end or beginning of the parts you want to cut. You don't need to add programs/chapters
2nd run: Cut the parts you do not want. There should be only one part to cut per cell
In this way, you won't have any problems of audio/video synchronization

jsoto

[outsiders71]

It could be done..., but if you're doing more than one "cut inside" I recomend you the following procedure (in only two runs)
1st run: Split the cell in as many parts as you need, better splitting in the end or beginning of the parts you want to cut. You don't need to add programs/chapters
2nd run: Cut the parts you do not want. There should be only one part to cut per cell
In this way, you won't have any problems of audio/video synchronization

jsoto

This would work if you're cutting out a whole scene or section, but for example in saw 3 with the naked woman in the chiller, there was a lot of cutting to do.

[jsoto]

Hmm.
May be, in your case, the best option would be to blank video in the VOBU, and keep the audio as it is to avoid synch problems.
But blanking VOBUs is not supported....

Regards

[blutach]

in saw 3 with the naked woman in the chiller, there was a lot of cutting to do.This was not a pun, was it outsiders71? Cutting/sawing/slicing/dicing - I am sure there was lots!!!! :D

Regards

[DuyNghia.Net]

VobBlanker 2.1.3.0 Beta 8 has been released on March 4 2007

http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/betas/VobBlanker_2130b8_exe.zip

[goonix]

Hi jsoto!

I use VobBlanker every day for cutting, splitting or replacing parts of a DVD with great success. But now I miss an important function.

If I want to replace a menu with a seamless muxed intro cell, I have to replace both cells at once.

In the title domain, VobBlanker can replace on PGC and on cell level.
In the menu domain VobBlanker can replace only at cell level.

For that reason, I have to replace the menu in two runs and the transition from one cell to the next cell isn't seamless. Even if I set the seamless flag with PgcEdit, I can see a short flickering and hear a short hiccup in sound. Some players get confused when setting the seamless flag on a non-seamless transition (e.g. playing in slowmotion up from now or something else).

So my feature request:

Is it possible to add a replace function in the menu domain on PGC level to replace 2 or more seamless cells at one time?

goonix

[r0lZ]

I second that request.
And is it possible to enable the Split cell function in the menu domains?

[jsoto]

In the menu domain VobBlanker can replace only at cell level.
For that reason, I have to replace the menu in two runs and the transition from one cell to the next cell isn't seamless. Even if I set the seamless flag with PgcEdit, I can see a short flickering and hear a short hiccup in sound.
That does not make sense to me... If you have a replacing PGC made with two cells seamless joined, you can extract the cells to two different VOB files (with VobBlanker , i.e.) and replace both cells in only one run. The result will be a seamless join, although the flags won't be correctly set. Changing them with pgcEdit should be enough and your new menu should be fully seamless..
Where is the problem you have? I cannot see it..

In any case, I can take a look...I'm very busy these days but I'm going to have some hollidays in the coming days.

jsoto

[jsoto]

I second that request.
And is it possible to enable the Split cell function in the menu domains?
It's possible, but it will take a lot of work....
And, in the case of several LUs, well, you should split the same cell on all of them to keep them aligned (although this can be an user resposibility)

One single split point should be enough?

jsoto

[r0lZ]

Argh! I haven't thought at the LU problem! I think also that there might be problems with the highlights of the menu buttons...

Of course, a single split point is sufficient in most cases, and "better than nothing".

[goonix]

Hi jsoto!
If you have a replacing PGC made with two cells seamless joined, you can extract the cells to two different VOB files (with VobBlanker , i.e.) and replace both cells in only one run.

Thanks for this information. I never thought about the possibility to extract all seamless cells with VobBlanker before.
I have muxed them separately up to now and this leads to a non-seamless joint of course.

But now it works perfectly!

Since only one additional step is necessary, you can set this feature request to low priority. ;)

Many thanks again for this great tool.

goonix

[Robotik]

hi jsoto,

if it's request season again, may i ask you to remove two annoying popup messages?
one of them is the message you get when you export a cell, and the 'Split output in multiple files' is checked. could you please remove the 'Filename has to be "*_1.VOB"...' message when the file is <= than 1GB? and when it isn't, could it return to the 'Select Output File' dialog with the filename i tried to use still in the filename bar, and selected? that would save us some retyping.
the other one is the 'Do you really want to quit?' popup. i mean it is really useful, if i worked a lot with setting up everything for processing, and accidentally clicked on Quit, but no point using it in cases when no alterations done (e.g. just exporting some cells).

thanks a lot,
robotik

(i hope you don't take it as nagging, i'm really satisfied with VobBlanker, and use it daily, and am really greatful for you to make it available to all of us! :)

[jsoto]

hi jsoto,
one of them is the message you get when you export a cell, and the 'Split output in multiple files' is checked. could you please remove the 'Filename has to be "*_1.VOB"...' message when the file is <= than 1GB? and when it isn't, could it return to the 'Select Output File' dialog with the filename i tried to use still in the filename bar, and selected? that would save us some retyping.
I'll take a look...



the other one is the 'Do you really want to quit?' popup. i mean it is really useful, if i worked a lot with setting up everything for processing, and accidentally clicked on Quit, but no point using it in cases when no alterations done (e.g. just exporting some cells).
When clicking on Quit button it does not ask for confirmation....It asks if you click on X button in right top angle of the window or in the case of ALT+F4...
I think I'm not going to change this...

jsoto

[Robotik]

When clicking on Quit button it does not ask for confirmation...
you're right, i meant File -> Quit

thanks for looking into the other request.

[poolshark2014]

I just downloaded 2.1.3.0. beta 8 and for some reason everytime I preview a part of the movie which I want to blank VobBlanker always freezes. Is there any way to fix this annoying problem?

I am currently using 2.1.2.0 and have never had any problems except for those Sony movies that add like 90+ files to a movie disc.That is when I fire up Beta 8 but it will always freeze when I preview a part of any file.

[jsoto]

I just downloaded 2.1.3.0. beta 8 and for some reason everytime I preview a part of the movie which I want to blank VobBlanker always freezes. Is there any way to fix this annoying problem?
I suposse you're loosing the cells dialog (it closes and it shouldn't because it is a modal one, so the main dialog is disabled). If this is your case, try the popup menu (right clicking in the mouse) instead of the buttons on the right part of the dialog. Please let me know if this is your problem and if the workaround also works for you.
I'm completely lost with this bug. It has no sense at all (FYI, the pop-up menus calls the button method) Seems related with mfc42.dll and/or something strange in preview code...

jsoto

[blutach]

I am glad it isn't just me Jesùs! :) But, I am not happy for you.

Regards

[poolshark2014]

Well JSOTO it worked the way you told me but is it always going to have to be like that for me or is there going to be a fix?

[jsoto]

Well JSOTO it worked the way you told me but is it always going to have to be like that for me or is there going to be a fix?
As I said, I'm completely lost in this bug. I'll try to fix it, but I do not know how to do any advance on it..
jsoto

[SamuriHL]

jsoto,

I have an unusual question and possible request, however, I know right off that it's probably extremely difficult and a real pain to implement. Therefore consider this a wishlist item at best...I simply wanted to throw it out there and see what you think.

My question and possible request is this...is it possible to analyze the titlesets on a DVD so that when the green "preview" frame is found that VobBlanker could label that particular titleset as a preview? I know, this is a pretty exotic request and I completely understand if you outright say no to it, but, if it could be done, it might be useful to a lot of people. Auto labelling, and possibly having an option to auto skip, the known previews would certainly save people time.

Anyway, I just thought I'd throw the idea out there and see if it gets any traction. :) I know you're a busy guy, so, I don't expect miracles on this. I'm just simply curious if you're interested in the idea. Thanks!!

[jsoto]

It's possible, but requires MPEG decoding and to analyze the result. It also will take many CPU time...
So the answer is no, I'm not going to work on that

What VobBlanker can actually do is to mark all the PGCs except the main movie to be blanked, based in a duration analysis

jsoto

[SamuriHL]

Thanks for the reply! I fully understand the reluctance to work on that. I had a feeling it was going to be a little more than you'd want to take on. Not a problem at all.

Hmmm, I wasn't aware it could do that. I'll have to look into that one. Thanks for the tip!

[blutach]

I think its called autoblanking SamuriHL :)

Regards

[SamuriHL]

I think its called autoblanking SamuriHL :)

Regards

Helps to look through the menus, doesn't it? :D Yea, I found it earlier after jsoto mentioned it. I felt like an idiot after that. :) VERY sweet option though!! The other thing you can do is if you want to keep just a few extras is automatically blank everything and then unblank the stuff you want to keep. Awesome! I love VobBlanker...by far one of my favorite utilities!

[Surf]

Senor Soto,

How about nagging Jeanl to "program" a new preview thingy with sound? Helps in cutting...

BTW, I removed the "ohh sh*t" wav file :D

[poolshark2014]

[QUOTE=Surf;978572]Senor Soto,

How about nagging Jeanl to "program" a new preview thingy with sound? Helps in cutting...

Yeah that would be a great add on.It is better to hear and see what you might or might not want to blank out.I second the notion of adding sound to the preview window.

[sockeye]

[QUOTE=Surf;978572]Senor Soto,

How about nagging Jeanl to "program" a new preview thingy with sound? Helps in cutting...

Yeah that would be a great add on.It is better to hear and see what you might or might not want to blank out.I second the notion of adding sound to the preview window.

I think adding sound might be difficult due to licencing agreements.

[blutach]

sockeye might be right. In the event he is, surf, you might care to try DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php).

Regards

[jsoto]

VobBlanker_2130 beta10 (http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/betas/)



Added: Split feature in MENUs. Up to 32 split points.
Added: "Cut inside" splitting the cell in two parts in MENUs domain.
Added: Check PTSs discontinuities when extending cells (replacing cells/titles).
Improvement: Double click on a cell row in cell list now goes to split/still/replace or preview/cut dialogs, depending on action
Improvement: Message "Filename has to be *_1.VOB" removed if filesize < 1000MB
Change: Return to file save dialog in case of error (extracting cells)
Change: "Save project as" opens the file save dialog with the current project filename (if exists) instead of the default filename
BugFix: Delete all title VOB files in output folder before processing the titles domain of a titleset


Already included in beta 8 or 9

BugFix: Bug in DVDPreview was crashing VobBlanker loading a PAL/NTSC mixed DVD
Added: Automatically disable overlay if needed in VISTA
Changed: 50% more space for ifos growing.
Changed: Menu VOB or last title VOB files in a VTS are allowed to be larger than 1 GB (a warning is issued)
BugFix: sizes of GB were reported as MB in dialogs


jsoto

[SamuriHL]

Awesome, jsoto, thanks!!!

[Robotik]

yeah, thanks a lot!

[sockeye]

Very nice jsoto. :thanks:

[Jessehu]

Is possible add Video_TS folder for output dir, Since latest version of powerdvd couldn't play if without video_ts folder.

Thanks

Jesse

[President]

Thank's Jsoto!

A parts of log:

Version 2.1.3.0 beta10. Starting new process:
......
VTS 01: (CB) Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/30 --> 02/34
WARNING: Packs unsynchronized. Skipping packs...
A total of 17 packs have been skipped
VTS 01: (CB) Keeping Cell VID/CID: 03/01 --> 03/01
......
Finished. No Errors, 0 Warnings, 0 Notes

Why Warnings = 0?
======================================
...Since latest version of powerdvd couldn't play if without video_ts folder.
If you want to see your DVDs from hard drive you can associate an IFO files with PowerDVD.
1. Launch PowerDVD.
2. Call the Configuration menu (Ctrl+C on keyboard).
3. Click "Advanced" button on the "Player" tab.
4. Check a checkbox as shown.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9744/321xv6.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9744/321xv6.jpg)
5. Now you can starts your DVDs from any folder on your HD just double clicking on VIDEO_TS.IFO.

[jsoto]

Why Warnings = 0?
Uups. I'm not counting as warnings these cases...Will fix it.

BTW, there is another stupid bug in the Title of the CELLs dialog...

jsoto

[mkjnovak]

Hi all,

First post here, first ever VobBlanker problem

I'm a long-time user with no problems til now, so I don't think I made any bonehead mistakes.

I was just trying to do chapter splits on a DVD.

At 88% I get the following errors:
Caught exception trying to allocate AudioInfo # 454001
click OK
Out of memory
click OK

FYI this DVD was only unusual in that the audio was over one gig worth of wav. I don't know if that might matter.

I did get what I needed by de- and re-muxing with VobEdit and Muxman, but I still thought I should report the problem.

Thanks for your time,
Mike

[jsoto]

This is a true error, not your fault.

VobBlanker is storing in memory a small information (PTS, CellID, LBA..) per Nav/audio and sub pack, while writting the VOB
This info is used afterwards to adjust the internal pointers if needed, to reconstruct the IFO, etc.
The problem is the very large number of audio packs in the case of a large DVD with one (or even two) PCM track/s.

I could change the way VobBlanker works, and do the pointer adjustments cell by cell, and not all of them at the end, just to save memory... but it is easier for me if you increase your memory. Try in other PC with more memory or (may be) increasing the windows virtual memory.

jsoto

[jsoto]

VobBlanker_2130 RC1 (http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/betas/)

Changelog (versus beta 10)

Added: Control of minimum window size (in resizing windows)
Added: Resizing grip indication (in the lower left corner)
Added: Refuses to run if AnyDVD or DVD43 are detected
BugFix: Not fixed, but workarounded. Dissapearing cells dialog when hitting "split button"


jsoto

[SamuriHL]

You rock, jsoto! Thank you!!!

[jsoto]

Not too much this time... the only interesting thing is a workaround.
jsoto

[blutach]

I confirm the workaround works and the Split button does not kill the Cells Dialogue screen any more.

Thanks jsoto!

Regards

[jsoto]

Thanks to you too, my friend

[SamuriHL]

Not too much this time... the only interesting thing is a workaround.
jsoto

I don't know about that...I do understand (and agree with) some of the changes added. ;) This is a very nice release.

[dialysis1]

Added: Refuses to run if AnyDVD or DVD43 are detected

Great idea!

[President]

Thank's Jsoto! :thanks:

[Robotik]

Added: Refuses to run if AnyDVD or DVD43 are detected


i don't have any of them, so i don't get it
anyway, thank you for the new release!

[coodbe]

i don't have any of them, so i don't get it
anyway, thank you for the new release!

I used to have AnyDvd active while using VobBlanker to remove unwanted titlesets during the rip of a protected DVD9 to the hard drive. I backed up my purchased DVDs for my own use. Now this can't be done.

Is there a worry that VobBlanker may be the next to be banned if it is used in this fashion. Is that why it will refuse to run with AnyDvd?

[blutach]

@coodbe

jsoto has said before he does not want VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) to be used as a ripper.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=990840#post990840

It seems he has simply put this into action.

Slysoft will have to stop relying on third party tools, which in the process might endanger them.

Regards

[Robotik]

Slysoft will have to stop relying on third party tools, which in the process might endanger them.

very true, especially since they get paid for their software, while using freeware to do the hard job!

[SamuriHL]

Slysoft will have to stop relying on third party tools, which in the process might endanger them.

Regards

Don't bet on it. ;) There are 2 things in the works at Slysoft that will hopefully fix their problem with DVD Shrink once and for all. I also agree that jsoto was very wise to implement this. It was the right thing to do.

EDIT: Oh I misread what you said...you meant endanger the third party tools. yes, I agree with that.

[SamuriHL]

very true, especially since they get paid for their software, while using freeware to do the hard job!

Um, ok. I don't know where the Slysoft bashing is coming from, but, they only recommended VobBlanker to those DVD Shrink users who didn't wish to buy CloneDVD...which has NO problems working with AnyDVD on any title. They are working on fixing the problem with AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter but wanted their customers to have a free solution in the meantime.

[dirio49]

Thanks for the new version jsoto . :)

[Robotik]

I don't know where the Slysoft bashing is coming from, but, they only recommended VobBlanker to those DVD Shrink users who didn't wish to buy CloneDVD
i made a judgement without any knowledge on the matter and i apologize. i just don't want to see my favorite piece of software jeopardized. i guess jsoto had a good reason to limit the use of his software and has every right to do it, and he should be asked why he did so.

[SamuriHL]

i made a judgement without any knowledge on the matter and i apologize. i just don't want to see my favorite piece of software jeopardized. i guess jsoto had a good reason to limit the use of his software and has every right to do it, and he should be asked why he did so.

It's no problem. jsoto did what he HAD to do and I have no issue with it what so ever. No one wants to see jsoto's masterpiece compromised.

[jsoto]

VobBlanker_2130 RC2 (http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/betas/)

Changelog (versus RC1)

Added: Refuses to run also if DVDRegionFree is detected
Change: Defaults: Do not use overlay defaults to true, and NextPGC and PrevPGC pointers modification defaults to false BugFix: Info window in preview was broken since beta 9



jsoto

[SamuriHL]

Thanks, jsoto!

[jsoto]

Don't give me thanks... nothing new in RC2.

[Guest]

Hey, thanks for being a developer and giving your time and energies to the community. :p

[SamuriHL]

Don't give me thanks... nothing new in RC2.

I agree with Neuron2 on this. You deserve thanks because you've released such an incredible program to the community and you continue to update it and fix bugs. And you ask for nothing in return. So, thanks is the least we can do! Your work is very much appreciated.

[jsoto]

What about you, neuron2 ? You're one of the gurus here...
Thanks, for helping and thanks for your tools and your time.
jsoto

[jsoto]

You deserve thanks because you've released such an incredible program to the community and you continue to update it and fix bugs. I was talking about these two last updates. Just trying to keep the tool in the safe side.
jsoto

[SamuriHL]

I was talking about these two last updates. Just trying to keep the tool in the safe side.
jsoto

I know...and as I said, that's appreciated and fully understood. It would be a very big loss if anything happened to you or VobBlanker.

[blutach]

Thanks jsoto.

Regards

[ceje]

I'd like to thank you too jsoto. I've been using version 2.1.1.0, and it's simply amazing.

I'm to cheap to buy Dual Layer media so I have to do some cutting to reduce the size of the dvd as much as possible before compressing it so I can have the highest quality possible, and your software does it better, faster, easier than anything, and quite intuitively.

Say, would you all say RC2 is stable enough for use by someone that's not a real techy?

[SamuriHL]

I've been using it since beta and haven't had any problems. The RC's seem quite stable to me. You should give it a shot...just keep your old version "just in case". :) If you do have problems, make sure to let jsoto know as the feedback will definitely help him out.

[ceje]

I've been using it since beta and haven't had any problems. The RC's seem quite stable to me. You should give it a shot...just keep your old version "just in case". :) If you do have problems, make sure to let jsoto know as the feedback will definitely help him out.

Thanks, I'll give it a go. :)

[jsoto]

The only thing to be done is to update the help file. After that I'm going to do a full release.

jsoto

[linx05]

Thank you for the update! :D

[Wheelie4]

Gotta question. Be aware I'm not use to VobBlanker and PGCEdit looks like egyptian hyroglyphics to me.

I have movie on my HDD. Open it in VobBlanker. I hilite the main title in Titleset window. I hilite the PGC of my choice and click the Cell button. Now, I see 40 cells. I want to blank cell #40 (that I can do) but what I can't figure out is with cell #39, I want to keep the first half of cell #39 and completely disregard (throw away) the last half of cell #39. Can I do that in VobBlanker? A guide anwhere? I tried the split/cut option but it made cell #39 into two cells making a total of 41 cells then had to process a second time to blank the new cell (formelly the last half of cell #39). I also tried prev/cut to mark the beginning to middle of cell #39 (set to keep) but after processing the whole cell was still intact (uncut).

I can do it easy in DRMpro but if I can do it in VobBlanker it can make my import and process times quicker.

[laserfan]

The only thing to be done is to update the help file.Thanks for your hard work, jsoto!

BTW your homepage lists 02-March as release date for RC2! I didn't know it was that old! ;)

[blutach]

@Wheelie04

Just blank the bits out of cell 39.

Guide on the VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) site. But for cell blanking, you need to also select Prev/Cut in the Cells in Title dialogue. You then Mark the start and end of your cut (ensuring Action between marks is correct) and click OK. Click Apply after that (perhaps you clicked Close the first time, which closes and discards changes) and Process in the main window.

Regards

[Robotik]

I also tried prev/cut to mark the beginning to middle of cell #39 (set to keep) but after processing the whole cell was still intact (uncut).
well of course it didn't work. you have to set the end mark to the middle of the cell! (set the slider to where you want to cut it and press the 'Mark' button in the 'End Mark' panel. then OK, Apply, and Process.)
i've just tried it and it does exactly what you want.

EDIT: it seems blutach was faster :)

[Wheelie4]

Thx guys. Much appreciated.

well of course it didn't work. you have to set the end mark to the middle of the cell! (set the slider to where you want to cut it and press the 'Mark' button in the 'End Mark' panel. then OK, Apply, and Process.)
i've just tried it and it does exactly what you want.

EDIT: it seems blutach was faster :)

Thats what I said I did. Just bad wording. Sorry I wasn't clearer. Correction below. :)
I also tried prev/cut to mark the beginning to middle of cell #39 (set to keep)I was saying I mark from the beginning and marked to the middle of cell #39 set to keep.


But, I got it to work now and think I figured out why it wasn't before. Before I set which cells to blank and set my marks to cut. Then after that I went in the Strip pane to set which audio to strip. I noticed if I do that then go back and look at the Cells in title pane, their all reset to keep. If I choose my cells to blank and cut and not choose to strip any audio the blanking and cutting works. For some reason I can't blank/cut and also strip audio all in one process. I must be missing something somewhere. I have vobblankers setting at default.

Also, If I try choosing the audio to strip first then go to try and prev/cut button to cut a cell the mark buttons are greyed out (unclickable).

[jsoto]

For some reason I can't blank/cut and also strip audio all in one process.
There is a good reason: It is not supported. You need to do two VobBlanekr sessions. (BTW, do not forget to reload the DVD between the two sessions)
jaoto

[Wheelie4]

There is a good reason: It is not supported. You need to do two VobBlanekr sessions. (BTW, do not forget to reload the DVD between the two sessions)
jaoto
Ahhh, ok gotcha. Then it wasn't me doing something wrong. Thx alot guys. I've got it going right then. ;)

[techreactor]

The only thing to be done is to update the help file. After that I'm going to do a full release.

jsoto

When is the full release expected ???

[jsoto]

When is the full release expected ???

I hope in a few days... (may be this weekend if I find some free time)

jsoto

[Wheelie4]

In the prev/cut window, should the slider move along as the preview plays or only when manually slid?

[jsoto]

In the tiny preview, the slider moves during the playback, but in the main preview/cut dialog, the slider only moves to the final position when the playback stops (also, the sector/elapsed time are updated when stops) .

jsoto

[jsoto]

Finally, the full release version is on-line. Almost no changes versus RC2 (only one cosmetic bug)

Changelog versus 2.1.2

Added: Control of minimum window size (in resizing windows)
Added: Resizing grip indication (in the lower left corner)
Added: Refuse to run if AnyDVD/DVD43 or DVDRegionFree (lite & std) are detected.
Added: Split feature in MENUs. Up to 32 split points.
Added: "Cut inside" splitting the cell in two parts in MENUs domain.
Added: Check PTSs discontinuities when extending cells (replacing cells/titles).
Added: Multiple splits pre cell. Up to 32 split points can be defined per cell in the same VobBlanker session.
Added: GOP type and Cell elapsed time are shown in Preview
Added: Absolute sector in preview
Added: Check the maxmum size of the output (menus and titles)
Added: Automatically disable overlay if needed in VISTA
Improvement: Tooltips are visible when the controls are disabled
Improvement: Double click on a cell row in cell list now goes to split/still/replace or preview/cut dialogs, depending on the selected action
Improvement: Message "Filename has to be *_1.VOB" removed if filesize < 1000MB
Improvement?: GOP type detection now accepts first video pack in a non standard position
Change: Defaults: Do not use overlay defaults to true, and NextPGC and PrevPGC pointers modification defaults to false
Change: Return to file save dialog in case of error (extracting cells)
Change: "Save project as" opens the file save dialog with the current project filename (if exists) instead of the default filename
Change: Elapsed and duration times: hours are represented in one digit
Change: Info in preview uses normal fonts. Deleted non-valid fields.
Change: Errors compacted when loading a DVD with multiple errors in menus
Change: 50% more space for ifos growing.
Change: Menu VOB or last title VOB files in a VTS are allowed to be larger than 1 GB (a warning is issued)
Change: Open GOP warning completely removed
Change: Confusing message when ILV-ed cells are detected.
BugFix: Not fixed, but workarounded. Dissapearing dells dialog when hitting "split button"
BugFix: Delete all title VOB files in output folder before processing the titles domain of a titleset
BugFix: Bug in DVDPreview was crashing VobBlanker loading a PAL/NTSC mixed DVD
BugFix: Sizes of GB were reported as MB in dialogs
BugFix: "Cut inside" splitting still was broken in some cases
BugFix: In the case of 9 files in a VTS, the fixing packs procedure hanged
BugFix: Only 98 VTS were supported
BugFix: Negative (wrong) pointers in IFOs made VobBlanker crash
BugFix: chapters table wrong when splitting cells
BugFix: Settings in main dialog were lost opening more settings dialog
BugFix: 32K smart GAP default was not always the same value
BugFix: Changing Cell number in preview was not updating Time and GOP type
BugFix: Special case where GOP type was not detected (was being marked as unknown)
BugFix: PGC unit table was being created empty in smart GAPs
BugFix: When removing unreferenced cells and renumbering, VOB pointers fixing phase was working with the list including the cells to be deleted, so some cells were adjusted twice.
BugFix: Adding chapters when splitting cells could fail in some rare conditions
BugFix: VobBlanker was not launching the fixing pointer phase when a cell number mismatch was detected replacing cells/pgcs


jsoto

[laserfan]

Great work jsoto! Many, many thanks to you! :thanks:

[SamuriHL]

Congrats on the final release, jsoto! Now hopefully you can rest up. :)

[FredThompson]

Preview, help file and lgpl are missing from the release. Must have been forgotten in the excitement?

[blutach]

Thanks jsoto!

@FredThompson - I don't think there's been changes to LGPL or Preview.

Regards

[FredThompson]

A full release would have all the files. Imagine you were a new user, downloading VobBlanker for the first time. What happens when you want to preview?

I'm just pointing out that some of the files are missing from the full release.

[r0lZ]

Thanks, jsoto!

@ FredThompson: VobBlanker has no external exe for the preview.

[jsoto]

Preview, help file and lgpl are missing from the release. Must have been forgotten in the excitement?
VobBlanker does not use an external app for preview (as r0lZ said)
help file was already included: VobBlanker.chm
lgpl file: Here you're right. I forgot to include it and I have to. I've just changed the zip files on my sites to include it. BTW, it is not the first time I forgot to include lgpl.txt in the exe zip...

I'm assuming you're not using the last beta http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/betas/
(which does not include any additional file)

but the official release
http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/vobblanker.htm
http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm


jsoto

[FredThompson]

I typically get each beta and decompress it on top of the previous builds. I grabbed the full 2.1.3.0 and did the same which is when I noticed those files weren't in the release.

Am I correct in believing vobblanker.hlp, preview.exe and preview.ini are no longer needed?

[jsoto]

Am I correct in believing vobblanker.hlp, preview.exe and preview.ini are no longer needed?

From the changelog (in the help file, BTW):
Vers 2.0.0.2 (09-05-2005)
Changed: Help file and help integration using htmlhelp instead of winhelp
Means VobBlanker.chm (html style) instead of VobBlanker.hlp (old style)

Vers 1.6.0.1 (08-12-2004)
Added: New integrated preview using jeanl DVDPreview class

Are you really keeping preview.exe in your HDD since 2004? :D

jsoto

[FredThompson]

Yup, I've got lots of old stuff. I know, I know, 2004 is like pre-historic to the AACS kids...

[Rippraff]

Thanks jsoto for the new release. :)
Are you really keeping preview.exe in your HDD since 2004? :D
Yup, I've got lots of old stuff. I know, I know, 2004 is like pre-historic to the AACS kids...
http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/froehlich/e010.gif Same here. :p

Are there other files which are no longer needed? :D

Cu Rippraff

[Wheelie4]

In the tiny preview, the slider moves during the playback, but in the main preview/cut dialog, the slider only moves to the final position when the playback stops (also, the sector/elapsed time are updated when stops) .

jsoto
Ok, was just checking. Thanks alot. :)

[techreactor]

I hope in a few days... (may be this weekend if I find some free time)

jsoto

Thanks for the new release.

[President]

VobBlanker 2.1.3 released
Many thank's, Jsoto. :thanks:

[jsoto]

Are there other files which are no longer needed? :D
Cu Rippraff
Yep, you have a lot of old stuff...
All the required files are in the exe zip package.
So:
To run VobBlanker:
VobBlanker.exe is enough. No moer files are needed
Help file:
VobBlanker.chm. No more files. Old style (winhelp) was using the files
VobBlanker.hlp, VobBlanker.cnt and VobBlanker.GID
del_angles
del_angles.exe is enough.
You can also do this work with pgcEdit and forget this exe..
changelogs in txt format (info, not needed to run)
ReadmeVobBlanker.txt
Readmedel_angles.txt
sound files
You can delete them (VobBlanker won't complain) if you don't like them, or change by other wav files. Just keep the name and VobBlanler will use them
DoneKO.wav
DoneOK.wav
Cleaning stuff
Remove_VobBlanker_settings.reg
Remove_VobBlanker_WindowCoordinates.reg
To be used (manually) to clean the registry. The second one is interesting. VB stores its main Window coordinates in the registry when exits to recover the same position and size when starts. But, if the window coordinates stored in the Registry are corrupted for any reason, VB starts but you're not able to see the dialog, because it is out of the screen. This issue happens rarely, but it happens (I've also seen it in other progs, like IFOedit)

No more files.

jsoto

EDIT:
mfc42 is statically linked in VobBlanker.exe You do not need any "additional" mfc42.dll

[r0lZ]

You forgot lgpl.txt ! ;)

[Rippraff]

@jsoto
I was just kidding and wanted to show, that there are others who keep your files for a long time. ;)

Thanks anyway for the explanations! :)

Cu Rippraff

[tom942]

@Ripraff

Maybe the O.S.? :D

@jsoto

:thanks:

[jsoto]

You forgot lgpl.txt ! ;) OOPS, once more...

@Ripraff & FredThompson
I'm glad and proud to see your fidelity on my tool...

Cheers

[Robinud]

thanks jsoto for this new release

[alxtorrentazos]

Hi everyone, I supouse it is NOT a VB bug, but I just wonder if maybe someone could help me with a strange thing that it´s happening to my NERO RECODE 2 movies.
I opened a post which explains my problem in detail
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=124383
but nobody answer to my specific problem and recently I´ve made a new discover.......It´s related to VB.
If I make the FULL dvd with NR2, no problems appears, all the things that I set in the movie´s menues shows OK when I see the film, but, if for any reason I have to "edit" the dvd using VB (removing trailers,etc) and later do a transcoding with NR2 using this "edited" version of the movie, problems appears as described.
I tested so far Spiderman 1 and 2, Thank You For Smoking, Casino Royale, The Prestige (all original Zone 4 dvd´s) with VB 2.1.3.0 with it´s default settings, and used NR2 latest version (the one that cames in the latest Nero 7850 package)
As I said, I think it is NOT a VB bug...I think it´s a NR2 bug which reads bad info of the "edited" dvd, but I don´t have any clue. The strange thing it´s if I use DvdShrink on the same "edited" movie, all goes perfect....
I hope someone could give me some help.
Thanks
Alx

[StephenChow]

Hello,

I need an comprehensive explaination of every options/features in VobBlanker.
Who can help me?

Thank you

[blutach]

You can! Press F1 from within VobBlanker.

Regards

[jsoto]

@StephenChow
I hope my English does not look too bad...
If you have any additional question or something is not clear enough, please ask.

jsoto

[alxtorrentazos]

sorry, but now one can confirm or deny my problem with vobblanked movies and Nero Recode 2?
thanks.
alx

[setarip_old]

@alxtorrentazos

Hi!

As an experiment, try performing your "editing" with a different program than VOBBlanker - and see if you still have the same problem after using NERO Recode 2...

[Wheelie4]

I'm already paralyzed from the neck down so please, nobody shoot me for what I'm about to say because that would put a serious crimp I'm my day. ;) I'm tired of Windows (and MS, and WinOS's futures look bleek) so next month I'm planning on getting a Macbook {Wheelie4 shields himself with his Dell}. I know OS X may not be any better than WinOS's (never used a Mac) but doubt it could be any worse. :) jsoto, ever contemplated a version of Vobblanker for mac OS X?

[SamuriHL]

I'm already paralyzed from the neck down so please, nobody shoot me for what I'm about to say because that would put a serious crimp I'm my day. ;) I'm tired of Windows (and MS and WinOS's futures look bleek) so next month I'm planning on getting a Macbook {Wheelie4 shields himself with his Dell}. :) jsoto, ever contemplated a version of Vobblanker for mac OS X?

Install Parallels for Mac, install XP in that, and run all your favorite Windows apps that way. :)

[Wheelie4]

Install Parallels for Mac, install XP in that, and run all your favorite Windows apps that way. :)
I considered that option but my WinXP+SP1 disc is the disc that came with my Dell and not an original WinXP disc. If I understand correctly you can't use an OEM disc.

[SamuriHL]

Yup, you understand correctly. That bites. I've got a Dell Inspiron 9300 running Vista Ultimate right now and my next laptop will very likely be a Mac. I'm not abandoning Windows...I'll likely put Vista on it, but, I'd like to be able to run OS X, as well. Of course, my req's for functionality in a new laptop won't be met this year by any company, so, I'll be waiting a while. :)

[alxtorrentazos]

@alxtorrentazos

Hi!

As an experiment, try performing your "editing" with a different program than VOBBlanker - and see if you still have the same problem after using NERO Recode 2...

Hi there! :)
Will try to edit movies with DVDRemake and try again later.
Thanks for your answer.
Alx

PS. Can anyone do test about what I´m saying to confirm or denied my problems with NR2 and VB edited movies??? Jsoto, R U reading? he he he ;)
PS2. (Nice console) I´ve tried latest NR2 2.5.4.0 which cames in latest Nero package 7.6.9.0 and NR2 2.5.2.0 in Nero Package 7.5.8.0

[jsoto]

Jsoto, R U reading? he he he ;)Yes, just reading...;)
sorry, I do not have Nero Recode and also I have no time at all these days
jsoto

[alxtorrentazos]

Yes, just reading...;)
sorry, I do not have Nero Recode and also I have no time at all these days
jsoto

:scared::thanks:

[msi1000]

Hi jsoto, i need to convert a disk from PAL to NTSC. Im trying to patch the dvd changing the video attrib. All is working ok in all the vobs except the video attrib of the file VIDEO_TS.VOB. After i process the dvd , all the files are patched except the video_ts.vob.
So my dvd player still recognizes the dvd like a PAL.

Sometimes i use ifoedit to change the remaining traces of the PAL dvd but not always work. Can you add an option to patch all the vobs in the dvd?

Bye

[alxtorrentazos]

Hi there! :)
Will try to edit movies with DVDRemake and try again later.
Thanks for your answer.
Alx

OK, after a couple of weeks I´ve made some free time and space in my hdd and I´ve made a new test, this time with DvdRemake Pro and latest NR2 (and of course with latest VB too) on the movie PURSUIT_OF_HAPPYNESS region 4.
Unfortunally the results were as I expected....movie made with DVDRemake Pro and NR2 works perfect in the languaje and subs selection, and the movie made with VB and NR2 results were wrong again.
It´s a shame that jsoto can´t test this. I really love using VB+NR2, because it´s faster than any other couple of programs.

[blutach]

I wonder if this is a problem due to logical remapping of enabled streams? When a stream is removed from the middle, a gap is left in the VTSI_MAT table. Perhaps NR2 closes these gaps and therefore make the stream selection menu go awry. Try unsetting this feature or using it only when PgcEdit's DVD Shrink plugin tells you it is safe to do so.

Please also read the VobBlanker help file. Search for "More settings" and read the bit about "clear audio/subs status when blanking". Unticking this setting might help you.

Regards

[alxtorrentazos]

First I want to say "THANK YOU blutach" for taking the time an effort to answer my problem. Second, I want to remmeber you I´m not a profesional in using this tools......in fact, I lost a couple of days learning how to delete a couple of trailers from a dvd with DVDREMAKE, so, when you say "Try unsetting this feature or using it only when PgcEdit's DVD Shrink plugin tells you it is safe to do so." I don´t have a clue about what are you talking about....I´m not using pgedit or any plugin....I only tried DVDSHRINK 3.15, NR2 latest version and now DVDREMAKE to make this tests. I use all these programs with it´s defaults settings.....I will certanly try unticking "clear audio/subs status when blanking" box and try again. The only problem that I have it´s time and "power machine"...I´m on an Athlon 2100+ with 512mb of ram and each test it´s a pain in the a$$ :(
The only thing that I really would appreciate is someone could verify my problem.......because no one deny or verify this (specially jsoto), and, as far as I know, the problem appears in a 100% of the movies that I tried.....it´s not an isolated case. It´s something that happens every time I want to encode a movie using VB and NR2 and it´s a very nasty bug.
Again, thanks for your time and answer blutach :)
alx

PS. Jsoto, don´t take this comment in a bad way, but it´s really frustrating that no one, with a powerful Q2D machine and 4gb. of ram, and a 8800GTX graphics card like you, do a test in your holidays :P JK

[blutach]

PS. Jsoto, don´t take this comment in a bad way, but it´s really frustrating that no one, with a powerful Q2D machine and 4gb. of ram, and a 8800GTX graphics card like you, do a test in your holidays :P JKYou are perhaps not to know, but far from being on holidays, jsoto is extremely busy these days and has little or no time for DVD stuff. Furthermore, it is not incumbent on him to purchase a commercial product like NR2 - he does, after all, provide his program free of charge; it is not even "donationware".

As for looking at streams, there are lots of guides and posts around to learn from. The DVD Shrink plugin for PgcEdit is downloadable from the PgcEdit site and you simply choose "Check streams remapping safety" and note the results. Most times, it will come up negative.

I am reasonably sure if you did not enable remapping of streams (not sure in NR2 even has this option), then you would not have an issue.

Regards

[alxtorrentazos]

You are perhaps not to know, but far from being on holidays, jsoto is extremely busy these days and has little or no time for DVD stuff. Furthermore, it is not incumbent on him to purchase a commercial product like NR2 - he does, after all, provide his program free of charge; it is not even "donationware".

As for looking at streams, there are lots of guides and posts around to learn from. The DVD Shrink plugin for PgcEdit is downloadable from the PgcEdit site and you simply choose "Check streams remapping safety" and note the results. Most times, it will come up negative.

I am reasonably sure if you did not enable remapping of streams (not sure in NR2 even has this option), then you would not have an issue.

Regards

Hi again blutach :)
If I may ask, why download and install a dvdshrink plugin for pgcedit if I have NO problems with DVDSHRINK??? could you please explain what do you want me to test with it??......and, BTW, I want to use VB over pgcedit because it´s the fastest and easiest program for me to "clean" a dvd (delete a few trailers, remove some special "stupid" features, etc)...
I´m just pointing a (not say a bug) "feature" in VB or in NR2.....maybe an incompatibility between this two programs, nothing else.
BTW, I´ve tried unticking "clear audio/subs status when blanking" with the same results :(
Thanks again

[wmansir]

Let me start by saying I have a love/hate relationship with one function of VobBlanker. I lover that fact that I can replace menus with custom stills, but now I'm so obsessive about it that I probably spend twice as much time in Photoshop than in VobBlanker when processing a disc. :)

Now I have a problem that I've encountered a few times. I have a main movie with IlVu that has the menu in the same VTS. I would like to process the menu but not the movie, but I don't think that is currently possible.

Am I missing a way to do this with VobBlanker? If not is there an alternative method, preferably something short of reauthoring the menu in Scenarist.

Also, if I'm not mistaken about this, is the limitation due to a technical problem or just due to the UI of VobBlanker?

[Video Dude]

Am I missing a way to do this with VobBlanker?

By default it will say Skip when you open the files. Change it to process.

Then at the top, under the Output Folder path box, check "Process Menus" and uncheck "Process Titles". Have it output to some other folder.

Then just copy the files from that output folder to your main folder.

The IlVu movie vobs will not be touched, just the menu.

[wmansir]

Thank you Video Dude. Now it seems so obvious.

[blutach]

You can also use DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php), as you know. :)

Regards

[spyhawk]

You can also use DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php), as you know. :)Yep, Export modified files. :)

[jsoto]

By default it will say Skip when you open the files. Change it to process.

Then at the top, under the Output Folder path box, check "Process Menus" and uncheck "Process Titles". Have it output to some other folder.

Then just copy the files from that output folder to your main folder.

The IlVu movie vobs will not be touched, just the menu.

Instead of send the output to other folder, you also can "Use input folder" and VobBlanker will save in backup folder the old menus..

jsoto

[jsoto]

PS. Jsoto, don´t take this comment in a bad way, but it´s really frustrating that no one, with a powerful Q2D machine and 4gb. of ram, and a 8800GTX graphics card like you, do a test in your holidays :P JK
I have a P4 single-core mono-thread 1 GB RAM (I'm doubling your capacity!! ;) ) and an ATI 7000 series very old graphics card...
But for testing you always can do some tricks. In example, try blanking all cells except one or two in the main movie to create a very small DVD. After that you can use this small DVD to do the tests much more quickly

jsoto
And yes, these days I have no time at all...working all the day even the weekend...

[alxtorrentazos]

jsoto
And yes, these days I have no time at all...working all the day even the weekend...

Some guys has all the luck :P :devil:

[jinjin_jp]

I have a request about split, if possible.
It is ;
(1)process split and blank one of cell at the same time.
(2)process split and stll one of cell at the same time.

Because ;
A certain DVD seems to be wrong.
It can't be compressed by DVDShrink with error.
It is in the same point for everyone in Japan.
It seems to be caused by 1 bad VOBU (25/30 second) from examination.

The method of resolve is :
(a)split the cell in pre and post of the problematic part. =>blank the splitted problematic tiny cell. =>compress.
=>replace the blanked cell by extracted original cell.
(=> need to edit cell type to seamless from non-seamles which changed by blank.)
(b)split the cell in pre and post of the problematic part. =>still the splitted problematic tiny cell. =>compress.
(c)cut the problematic part from the cell and split =>compress.

(c) is processed once with VobBlanker.
(a) and (b) need to be processed 2 or 3 times with VobBlanker.
I think it is convinient if possible to process split and blank, split and still at one time.

Regards.

[jsoto]

@jinjin_jp
Too much work... for not too many applications.
And I'm still overloaded at work. No free time here..

However, why donot use method (c)?. It should work fine

jsoto

[jinjin_jp]

@jsoto
Sorry to request what need much work.
Current feature is enough for me. And I found splitted files must be saved once in the purpose of extracting the cell which is replaced later.

I don't like method (c) because it remove a part though tiny.

Regards.

[blutach]

I know this is the VB. thread and jsoto knows how much I support his product, but jinjin_jp, I think DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php) can do what you are asking.

Regards

[jinjin_jp]

jinjin_jp, I think DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php) can do what you are asking.
Thanks for the info.
Yes, DRM can do it.

Regards.

[Geekman]

Using VobBlanker (one of my favorite tools!) 2.1.3.0 I've noticed this:
- Select "Use Input Folder" first.
- Select VIDEO_TS.IFO of the DVD to be processed.
- All VTS's are marked as "Skip" thereafter.
- Happens with different DVDs (no ILV's present).
- If "Use Input Folder" is selected after DVD is initially parsed, then VTS's are marked "Process".

Is this a feature?

Thanks,
Geekman

[jsoto]

Using VobBlanker (one of my favorite tools!) 2.1.3.0 I've noticed this:
- Select "Use Input Folder" first.
- Select VIDEO_TS.IFO of the DVD to be processed.
- All VTS's are marked as "Skip" thereafter.
- Happens with different DVDs (no ILV's present).
- If "Use Input Folder" is selected after DVD is initially parsed, then VTS's are marked "Process".

Is this a feature?

Thanks,
Geekman
More or less....just to save some clicks
When you open a DVD with "Use input folder" selected, VB undestands you're going to process the minimum number of titles/menus, so all of them are (by default) marked as skip and you have to manually mark as process the ones you want to process. All the rest are not touched by the program

But if you open the DVD w/o "Use input folder" selected, the only way to get a legit DVD (with all the contents) is to process all the VTS (note even in keep mode it is something more than a simple copy), so all the VTS are marked (by default) as process.

However, if you change the "Use input folder" setting after loading the DVD, VB does not modify the current selections, to avoid any modification on the selections you could have already done.

jsoto

[blueboyec]

Just got a new PC and it has windows vista. I can not get the preview window to work. It only shows a single pic? Do i have to install something else for the preview window to work? Love this program!

[frank]

Disable Direct Draw Overlays in Preview.

[blueboyec]

Disable Direct Draw Overlays in Preview.



Thanks

[linx05]

I have a request. Not sure how easy this is to accomplish. Could you please add an option in VobBlanker to do an 'in place' process like FixVTS? I don't want VobBlanker to create new DVD files therefore using 2x the space on my hard drive.

Thank you for your work!

[blutach]

Tick use input folder and delete the backup folder afterwards.

Regards

[linx05]

Sometimes I do not have enough space for the doubling up of files. Which is why this feature would come in very handy.

[blutach]

As I am sure you are aware, VobBlanker stores its working files in the backup folder, then swaps them to the input folder. No files are destroyed, nor should they be. I don't know of too many apps which overwrites their source before they are finished processing the files. As you say, maybe FixVTS, but this results in danger if you abort.

So, the answer is to get a bigger hard drive, I am sad to say.

Regards

[r0lZ]

Or process one domain at a time. Of course, you must have enough disc space if you want to process the main movie VTS, but usually, the stuff that needs to be blanked is in another VTS.

[linx05]

Thanks for the replies. Even if I had more space on my hard drive I would still prefer the FixVTS way of things.

I would like to hear what jsoto has to say on it. But he seems to be very busy at the moment so we will just have to wait and see.

[mikenadia]

Can someone outline me the "Can Do and cannot Do" with movies containing ILVUs.
I would like to do some cell blanking ( I know how to do it in non_ILVUs DVDs).
I should change the Action from Skip to Process.
Then I have a PGC with ILV="Yes" and inside that Title, I have some cells with ILV="Yes", others with "ILV"="No".
Can I do cellblanking as usual , regardless of ILV value?
Do I have to rebuild timemaps?
Thx

[blutach]

VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) wont work with domains that are interleaved. If you wish to blank other titles on the DVD, just process those normally and leave the domain with the ILVUs as "skip".

Regards

[mikenadia]

THx , blutach, for a clear and concise answer.

[Meez]

i've been using vobblanker alot lately to create chapters by splitting cells using the guide on the vobblanker's homepage. it works great.! the thing is, when i play the movie in powerdvd afterwards, the on-screen display reads the chapters as, "1/1". or if i go to other chapters, it has the "/1" at the end. "13/1". this affects the chapter jump using the numpad on your remote using a hardware dvd player, as it does not work.

only after i process the title through pgcedit the chapter numbers show up properly.

sometimes, if i create many chapters, vobblanker just quits on me during the reading/creating of the new ifo files towards the end of the process. luckily, i can use ifoedit to create the ifo's from the vob's in the vobblanker_backup folder.

is there a reason why VB quits/closes during the ifo creating process?

thanks!

[President]

...when i play the movie in powerdvd afterwards, the on-screen display reads the chapters as, "1/1".
Run IfoEdit. Open your new VIDEO_TS.IFO. Click on the VMG_PTT_SRPT in the top window. In the bottom window find appropriate Title and it's "Number of chapters (PTT)" line. Fix a wrong number of chapters. Save IFO. Close IfoEdit. Check your DVD in the PowerDVD. All must be Ok.

[RickDangerous]

Hi guys! :)

First, thanks for your work on VobBlanker!

Unfortunately I'm having a problem...
I've posted it on the SubtitleCreator thread here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1211933#post1211933), as it occurs while using the DVD Authoring Wizard of SubtitleCreator, but it's a VobBlanker error
so I followed manusse's suggestion to post about it here and hopefully get some help

On the DVD Authoring Wizard of SubtitleCreator I hit start, demultiplexing finishes ok, so does multiplexing of the new dvd.
Then Vobblanker starts (at about 65-66% of the total process) and after just a few seconds I get the following message by VobBlanker:
Error: Unable to stat 0.IFO
and the process stops at that point (around 66% of the total process), no new DVD is created...
I did a small search and found that this error has been reported again here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1098211#post1098211), but I didn't find any solution for this

I'd really appreciate any help!
thanks!! :)

[blutach]

Are you remultiplexing within VobBlanker? This is useful for replacing menu backgrounds but I've not seen it done with a title. Or with SubtitleCreator?

Remux with muxman as a standalone (if the mux is not good, the log will say so) and then replace the old title with VobBlanker.

Regards

[RickDangerous]

hi blutach, thanks for the reply :)

I am remultiplexing with SubtitleCreator.
Well the whole process is being handled by SubtitleCreator, through it's DVD Authoring Wizard.
First the demuxing with pgcdemux, then the remuxing with muxman and then vobblanker. All three instances are controlled by SubtitleCreator.
I tried manusse's suggestion, unselecting the "Retain the menu..." box in SubtitleCreator, which skips the vobblanker step and ended up with a working dvd
(which could indicate that the remuxing step with muxman is ok?)

to be honest I'm not very comfortable using muxman and vobblanker as standalone (one of the reasons I went for SubtitleCreator), but I will try it and post my results

thanks!

[RickDangerous]

UPDATE:
I remuxed with muxman as standalone (mux was ok) and then replaced the old title with vobblanker
the process finished with no problem, the only thing is the subtitle track I added isn't selectable in the final DVD... :confused:

any ideas?
as for the original problem, what does "Error: Unable to stat 0.IFO" refer to anyway?

thanks!!

[blutach]

You didn't mux the subbie track in properly. Muxman would have highlighted in red if the selected modes weren't chosen correctly. If they weren't, they may not have got muxed at all. Check your muxman log.

As for the stat error, I don't have the foggiest. I have not seen it in VobBlanker.

Regards

[RickDangerous]

thanks for the reply blutach :)
I figured the problem with the sub track not being selectable
I had to update the ifo file with the subtitle information, I did that with pgcedit
now it works fine :)

as for the original error, I suppose SubtitleCreator sometimes doesn't work as it should, maybe it was this particular dvd

in any case, thanks for your help :)

[blutach]

Perhaps you'd also like to reply in the SC thread, so they can possibly track down what is happening.

Anyway, glad you got it sorted out.

Regards

[RickDangerous]

Perhaps you'd also like to reply in the SC thread, so they can possibly track down what is happening.

I've posted in the SC thread too, thanks for your advice mate :)