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Voodoochild
16th December 2006, 21:49
Just thought to share with u, the only movie I can't seem to compress with decent quality. "Terminator 2 ultimate edition"
If I keep the DTS audio and the special edition version it's 50% compression even after compressing the "end credits" all the way and the menu to... this film need so match bitrate, so 2800... Is clearly not enough.
Yes I can take out the DTS audio and the 16 minutes extra scenes... but then it's not ultimate any more :sly: , just wanted to know if any one tried this ultimate version b4.

Elad

dialysis1
16th December 2006, 23:50
I have that disc R1 but it doesn't have DTS audio. However the numbers that you got are correct. I then copied movie only (extended version) to another drive and ran it through RB keeping only the 5.1 AC3 audio and the compression is:
[17:36:56] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.20.4
- AVISYNTH 2.5.6.0
- HC encoder selected
- Source: TERMINATOR_2_EXTREME_DISC1
- VTS_01: 2,959,188 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 196,525 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 79.7%
- Overall Bitrate : 4,980/3,984Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,986,386KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 5,826/1,178/3,984 Kbs
[17:44:44] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 8 minutes.

Boulder
16th December 2006, 23:50
What do you mean by compressing the menu all the way? MenuShrink will make the menu a very tiny one if it's huge.

One option to increase compressibility is to filter the video to death:p If the DTS track is a full-bitrate (1536kbps) one, there's really not much you can do apart from not using it.

Voodoochild
17th December 2006, 07:19
What do you mean by compressing the menu all the way?

I meant in those times I do want to keep the menu, without shrink it.. :-)

zacoz
17th December 2006, 14:25
It's always going to be a matter of compromise if you want to fit a DVD-9 to DVD-5. If you don't want to dump the DTS or the menu's/extras and not happy with the compression you therefore get on the feature then the only other choice you have is to back up onto a Dual Layer disc.

Voodoochild
17th December 2006, 17:16
It's always going to be a matter of compromise if you want to fit a DVD-9 to DVD-5. If you don't want to dump the DTS or the menu's/extras and not happy with the compression you therefore get on the feature then the only other choice you have is to back up onto a Dual Layer disc.

Correct and that what I'll do :thanks:

some movies should deserve the full pack DTS and the uncut movie, if you see terminator 2 ultimate edition you'll know what I'm talking about the DTS EX is so loud, the subwoofer in my house almost blew me away.. :-)

LakersFan
23rd December 2006, 04:40
Sometimes I've found that just buying some blank DVD-9's to use for movies such as this is the way to go. For 99% of movies out there, DVDRB is perfect. But then there's that 1%...

techmule
23rd December 2006, 07:41
You can even try the free AQMEnc(SAPSTAR) with QmatOp as "ON" for such compression ratios or go for the paid canopus Procoder 2 encoder in Mastering mode, with DVD-RB.

You will be surprised at the results and that too without loosing your DTS audio or menus ;)

Voodoochild
23rd December 2006, 11:04
You can even try the free AQMEnc(SAPSTAR) with QmatOp as "ON" for such compression ratios or go for the paid canopus Procoder 2 encoder in Mastering mode, with DVD-RB.

You will be surprised at the results and that too without loosing your DTS audio or menus ;)

I will definitely be surprised... just from curiosity, I'll give it a try...

10x Elad