New AMD CPUs ready.

[Sharktooth]

AMD is starting to close the gap with Intel and today commercialized 2 new AM2 CPUs: the AMD Athlon64 X2 5400+ and 5600+.
Both run at 2.8Ghz. The 5400+ has a total of 1MB of L2 cache (512KB x 2) while the 5600+ has 2MBs (1MB x2)
5800+ and 6000+ will be available shortly and will be clocked at 3.0Ghz (the same as FX-74).
The new CPUs are all made with the new 0.65 tech but still K8 core.

[Romario]

As far I know, and read earlier, these new Athlon64 CPUs are made in 90 nm process?

65nm isn't that good for 2.8 and 3.0 GHz, yet!

[Inventive Software]

Ahem. Intel proved it with Pentium 4 and D that it's good enough. C2D's good for it too, and will be even better when they move to 45nm. However 45nm is best for 4 cores though, less power emitted then. :)

[Romario]

No, you don't understand me! I mean this: AMD still have to further develop their own 65 nm process, before they release 3.0 GHz processor.

For now, AMD use 90 nm process on Athlon 5400 and 5600+.

[dragongodz]

For now, AMD use 90 nm process on Athlon 5400 and 5600+.
from everything i read that is correct. the December 5400+ and 5600+ will be 90nm. however i also read December also sees the 65nm versions of 4000+ to 5000+ range released. then early next year should see the 65nm versions of the 5400+ and 5600+.

[Inventive Software]

AMD are still playing catchup in smaller manufacturing processes though.........

[dragongodz]

AMD are still playing catchup in smaller manufacturing processes though
of course. one has to remember the difference in size and resources between AMD and Intel. i have often seen posts where people think AMD should be able to do anything that Intel can as fast etc. kind of ignores reality.

another note i read recently, apparently AMD have started to work with IBM on 45nm process.

[Inventive Software]

Hehe, more collaboration against Intel. Always a good thing. :) Should mean they hit both 45nm and 65nm quicker, and because ATI's part of AMD, that'll transfer to graphics chips too! :D

[Sharktooth]

I went back to the thread to make a correction but you were faster than me.
The 5400+ and 5600+ chips are made on 0.90 tech. 0.65 will be adopted in 2007.

[evilclive]

How far off are AMD quad-core CPUs?

[Sharktooth]

2nd half 2007. between june and july if there will be no delays.

[dragongodz]

and supposedly by the 2nd half of 2007 all AMD cpus are meant to have moved to 65nm.

[Romario]

Some insiders told me that quadcore Barselona release date is August 15.

But, who knows exact date.