Deinterlacer Newbie

[David Kimble]

I know this is bizarre but I didn't know where to post this without starting another thread and I figured my last one was at it's natural end...

Anyways:
Does anyone here know the script order to activate "SecureDeint()"???
Or "MVBob()"?in Avisynth 2.5 (Which dll Must be loaded)
I've been searching Doom9 and the Internet for over 6 hours now and cannot find the proper script or syntax in order to activate it....I must be missing something - because I know it's out there I just can't figure it out - I really want to try it because in the comparison web site it looked good.

I have never in my entire life encountered such ambiguity as when it comes to activating these two filters...
Obviously it's not a starightfoward answer like "Decomb and FieldDeinterlace()" Either that or I am a complete idiot.

I must either be blind to the obvious or missing something when I read the document that comes with it. I get an error that says "There is no such thing as MVBOB" or something like that...
Could someone shed some light on what I might be doing wrong here???
Thanks
Ps: And incidently I'f this thread is in the wrong place or should be part of the OLD one please move it...I'm still new to this...
Thanks

[check]

Well, MVBob() is part of the MVTools script package. You can find it here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=84770 .

[David Kimble]

Thanks mate
This will help answer a few questions - hopefully the dll is in the package.

Ahh...The long, arduous process continues. - Well (maybe not arduous) but somewhat of a cerebral overload anyway

:thanks: :p

[David Kimble]

YEP I'm Full of questions this week...
I'm going to push my luck here with another one...
I've been testing out Deinterlacers all week and so far the two best ones I can find that give the best results for encoding my "Married..." DVD's are GKnot's FieldDeinterlace() and TDeint(). I'm surprised both are comparable in speed. Here's my additional problem. Field removes the interlacing lines and seems to blend everything together and yet leaves rigid edges and the aforementioned "staircase effect" on smooth lines at an angle.
However TDeint takes care of the rigid edges and makes the nlgled lines crisp and sharp like the original DVD. Very HQ. My problem is that TDeint leaves the interlacing artifacts or lines that FieldDeinterlace took care of.
It's almost like you can't have it all. Yet there must be a way.
Should I use the two deinterlacers together?? Or would this be overkill?? Or rather would they cancel out the benefits of each other?
What I'm really asking today is can someone reccomend a deinterlacer or method to take of BOTH of these phenomena that doesn't take 4 hours or more to encode per 23 min. video?
Incidently I'm using XviD 1.2 (2 pass) (AC3, CBR) with Qpel and an MPEG Custom Matrix of my own.

My Avisynth Script is:
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\TDeint.dll")

mpeg2source("__vid__",cpu=6)

BicubicResize(512,368,0,0.75)

Tdeint()

Undot()

Any other suggestions on how I might solve this???
Thanks again
:script: :thanks:

[Guest]

Do NOT resize before deinterlacing!

Post a link to a sample of your *unprocessed* source video so that we may experiment with it to answer you better.

[David Kimble]

Ok then - I gotta go now-but in a few days when I get back I'll post a sample. Sorry for the delay.
When you get the chance please check back.
I appreciate it. :p :thanks:

Sorry Nevermind - Problem Solved....

[David Kimble]

Sorry Once Again I bow to the master...
I WAS wrong. You were obviously right about the order of my avs script since (It's YOUR program).
When I put the BicubicResize after the Tdeint() all my problems cleared up. This little 6 minute sample I just did looks beter than any of the full ones I did last week.
Now I gotta redo everything over :scared:
- That's OK though I was only half done encoding my DVD's anyway.
Plus I needed something to do over the Holidays.:D
I just wanna say this program of yours is excellent and produces remarkable quality when it comes to doing your own DVD DivX/XviD rips. Now that I have all my own DVD's I don't have to download the LQ stuff anymore and can see them in much higher quality - the way they were meant to be!
Incase your reading this ...
Does DGindex have a batch d2v file creator somewhere?
Or is The CLI the only way to get it done?? I'd just like to rip 22 VOB files at a time and make all the D2V's in one shot.
Just wondering?????:p

[CWR03]

I've been testing out Deinterlacers all week and so far the two best ones I can find that give the best results for encoding my "Married..." DVD's are GKnot's FieldDeinterlace() and TDeint().
Did you ever return to your previous thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=119135) on this same subject and read the help offered there? Are you trying to convert your Married...With Children rips to 23.976 fps?

[Guest]

Sorry Once Again I bow to the master... Just don't call me the master baiter.

I WAS wrong. You were obviously right about the order of my avs script since (It's YOUR program). For the record, DGMPGDec is mine, and of course based on jackei's original work and incorporating lots of stuff from a lot of clever people, as documented in the manual. TDeint() is by 'tritical', a really fine developer. And the original version of Avisynth itself is by Ben Rudiak-Gould, a venerable God of desktop video.
Now that I have all my own DVD's I don't have to download the LQ stuff anymore and can see them in much higher quality - the way they were meant to be! One thing you need to be aware of is the distinction between interlaced content and telecined. It can make a BIG difference in the required processing for "best" quality. If you'd like to post your sample, maybe we can improve your results a bit.

Does DGindex have a batch d2v file creator somewhere? Or is The CLI the only way to get it done?? I'd just like to rip 22 VOB files at a time and make all the D2V's in one shot. The CLI plus DOS batch programming will get the job done. Do a search on "batch" in the DVD2AVI/DGIndex forum and you'll see several approaches described.
Just wondering?????:p Curiosity and healthy skepticism is a good thing. Rock on.