Follow Up To The Follow Up

[David Kimble]

Hello, and welcome to the forum,

Sorry I know this is in the wrong section but i'm a newbie and can't find the area this is supposed to go in - please forgive my ignorance - oops!!

We have a Newbie Forum.

The Vdub Filters or the Avisynth Filters?

If you're using AviSynth, you use AviSynth filters, unless there's one in VDub for which there is no AviSynth equivalent. Otherwise you cancel out some of the benefit of using AviSynth in the first place (speed and quality).

and also if you use two (of the same) on the same video from both programs do they cancel each other out or just "overdo the job" making the video look crappy??

It's sometimes OK to run the same filter twice.

I'm using avisynth to do my tv series dvd episodes and i was wondering which de-interlacer to use?

There's a good chance you don't deinterlace at all, but can IVTC instead. Other than that, if you really do need to deinterlace, I recommend LeakKernelDeint for a good combination of speed and quality, TDeint for slightly slower and maybe slightly better results, and there are several even better and super-slower ones.

SORRY TO BOTHER YOU MANONO AGAIN OR ANYONE...
BUT DOES THIS MEAN I HAVE DO THE INVERSE TELECINE OR TELECIDE THINGY HERE??? AND IS IT TIME CONSUMING IF SO???
SO THIS MEANS THAT 80'S TV SERIES LIKE "ALF, A-TEAM AND MWC" ARE NOT INTERLACED AND THUS DO NOT HAVE TO BE DEINTERLACED??
BTW - DOES THIS ACCOUNT FOR THAT IMAGE EDGE BLOCKING THING WHERE A STRAIGHT LINE/EDGE AT AN ANGLE BECOMES A "STAIRCASE" SO TO SPEAK, WITH RIDGES THAT WEREN'T THERE BEFORE?? OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE OBVIOUS QUALITY LOSS WHEN YOU GO FROM 9000 KBPS DOWN TO 1200 KBPS???

JUST A FEW QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BUGGING ME HERE..
CAUSE LIKE OTHERS I'M OBVIOUSLY LOOKING FOR THE HIGHEST QUALITY, YET COMPACT, RIPS FOR MY STANDALONE WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT 3 HOURS OR MORE FOR A 22 MIN SHOW TO COMPRESS. I USED TO DOWNLOAD RIPS OFF EMULE BUT FOUND OUT I COULD DO A BETTER JOB MYSELF AND STILL HAVE FILES SMALL ENOUGH TO FIT IN MULTIPLE ON A BLANK DVD R.

:thanks: :goodpost:

[David Kimble]

BTW - ONE LAST THING HERE IF I DO HAVE TO AS YOU PUT IT "IVTC" IS THIS THE SCRIPT I USE TO DO SO??
I BORROWED THIS SCRIPT FROM GORDIAN KNOT - (IT'S JUST THAT I DON'T WANT'T TO HAVE TO RELY ON GKNOT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I LIKETO BE IN FULL CONTROL OF THE ENCODING PROCESS.):

Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()


Does it come from the Decomb plug-in or the DGDecode plugin??

Ok that's all. Please reply if u can...

[Guest]

David, please use a proper thread title, per forum rule 9. And your all caps text is irritating. There's no need to shout.

[David Kimble]

oops:confused: :scared: :confused:

[CWR03]

You can also post follow-up questions to the original thread intstead of opening a whole new one.
SO THIS MEANS THAT 80'S TV SERIES LIKE "ALF, A-TEAM AND MWC" ARE NOT INTERLACED AND THUS DO NOT HAVE TO BE DEINTERLACED??
You have to determine yourself whether the material does or doesn't require deincerlacing or IVTC. All TV show DVD's are not the same. There are procedures listed on this forum for determining the requirements that you can find using Search.

[David Kimble]

Sorry - didn't know.

I'll sum up the above mumbojumbo into one simple question..

Does anyone know if "MWC" is interlaced or NTSC?

It says "NTSC" but it looks like it's Interlaced...
I DO know the fps for Region 1 is 29.97... but that's it.

I tried IVTC and Deint, Bob and LeakKernel - all had good points but none had the best of all worlds in one.

I noticed the MWC rips on emule look good - but I have no idea what Avisynth settings or VDub filters they used (if any)
What I DO know is that they mainly muxed with Nandub and set the audio interleaving to 32 ms (both minor points).

Any suggestions here? Or is an intensive, exhaustive search required ??? :cool:

Oh Well - Thanks anyway.

[Guest]

Does anyone know if "MWC" is interlaced or NTSC?

It says "NTSC" but it looks like it's Interlaced The two are not mutually exclusive.

You need to learn the fundamentals of video. There is no shortcut.

[CWR03]

It says "NTSC" but it looks like it's Interlaced...
I DO know the fps for Region 1 is 29.97... but that's it.
All NTSC DVDs are 29.97. If you'd do some research and learn these things you'd have a better understanding as to what you need to do.
Does anyone know if "MWC" is interlaced or NTSC?
I don't even know what "MWC" is.

[David Kimble]

Sorry but this is probably the reason
I was using Fairuse and Gknot for so long - I didn't want to get to deep into the technicalities of video.
Keep in mind though - I am REALLY a newbie.to this video deal....
Please try and forgive any "over the top" ignorance here.:scared: :D :stupid: (me!!)

[David Kimble]

Well I managed to answer my own question pretty much here - So far the best method to process this video is to use the "FieldDeinterlace()" that GKnot uses.

I was just wondering to whomever may be browsing this thread: is there such thing as SuperFieldDeinterlace() or SuperDeinterlace()?? I looked all over the net and couldn't find anything on it. The only thing I could find is SmoothDeinterlace() but it's incredibly slow.. and doesn't work on MY videos anyway.

I'm asking because I saw a rumor in one of the threads in this forum of something called "SuperFieldDeinterlacer()" (or something like that) and would like to know if the rumor is true ???:D

Never could find any proof of it though........

[CWR03]

You're probably trying to convert videotaped material to 23.976 fps - you need to leave it at 29.97. "Married...With Children" (which you explained through PM as what you called "MWC," and you could've posted that here) is such content.

Instead of following rumors and trying everything, just read the guides on how to determine what the video will require. You'll save yourself a lot of time and trouble.