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starsheep
12th November 2006, 13:26
Hi guys
I hope I git the right forum for this question.
I have a 1,7GHZ Centrino Notebook and I am having trouble with playback of HighRes content but especially MKV files.
I have installed:
- ffdshow
- CCCP
- CoreAVC (ffdshow has h264 playback disabled)
- quicktime alternative
- real alternative
As Players I have:
- Zoom Player WMV Pro (I bought that one)
- MPC
- VLC
I have some 720p MKV files. The AVI versions and the WMV versions are playable but the MKV doesn't work, at least not with my preferred player, ZoomPlayer.
I would be very greatful if anybody could help me out in configuring my playback a better way cause my laptop is fast enough for it.
Cu
StarSheep
check
12th November 2006, 14:10
Sorry, mkv is simply a container, not a video format. For more info on that read here: http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/Computer_movie_files#The_Container
Assuming by 'mkv', you mean 'h264', the answer is simple: if you are decoding with CoreAVC and cpu usage is still hitting 100%, there's naught you can do but upgrade your CPU or watch less stressful video. CoreAVC is the fastest decoder you'll find for that system, and MPC/zp will both use it for decoding on your system.
starsheep
12th November 2006, 15:29
Hi
thanks for the answer.
So how can I make sure CoreAVC is really used?
I disbaled h264 playback in FFDSHOW so CoreAVC is used automatically right?
Altough I doubt my CPU is too slow cause I have another laptop with 1,6 GHZ Centrino CPU that plays it fine.
Any suggestions now, maybe I have a setup problem, video drivers maybe or do they not have any affect on the playback?
Thanks
Cu
StarSheep
starsheep
12th November 2006, 16:24
One more funny thing.
Mplayer for windows plays the MKVs fine with no glitches so what is the deal.
As far as I understand it, it is not the PC that is too slow, the setup is the problem.
I really hope someone can help me here
Cu
StarSheep
KoD
12th November 2006, 21:35
Or maybe CoreAVC is not used. I know for sure that once you install something like Cyberlink PowerDVD, its h264 decoder will take over anything else, and it's slow like a snail when it runs in software mode. Look in the Filter list while playing a file and make sure CoreAVC is there and not something else.
starsheep
12th November 2006, 23:02
Actually PowerDVD is installed on my system for DVD playback.
Any chance you could point me to the right direction where I have to set up CoreAVC as the playback filter, that would be really great.
Thanks
StarSheep
KoD
13th November 2006, 09:49
You have to manually unregister CL264dec.ax (or set it to a lower filter merit). There's some info here (http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=Troubleshooting_Guide#After_installing_PowerDVD_7_H.264_playback_is_broken.21). After that, you'll have to manually disable h264 decoding in ffdshow again.
joseph5
13th November 2006, 20:30
You can try RadLight Filter Manager.
starsheep
13th November 2006, 21:18
Sorry, but what is that CCCP insurgent?
I have no clue what that is.
Thanks
StarSheep
starsheep
13th November 2006, 21:22
Hi
That filter manager sounds great.
Anybody could give me some pointers what I have to do with that program exactly, meaning what filters and where do I need to deregister and what do I need to register.
Any help woould be great, thanks
StarSheep
KoD
13th November 2006, 21:42
Since you said you were using CCCP I assumed you knew about the site cccp-project.net
Maybe it's better to come to CCCP's forums then.
starsheep
15th November 2006, 11:33
Hi guys
Can anybody help me with the registration of the filters.
That filter manager looks great but I am not familiar with it what I have to do.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
StarSheep
check
15th November 2006, 12:39
if you are asking about the CCCP Insurgent, you should ask over on the official forums. (http://cccp-project.net)
starsheep
15th November 2006, 15:35
Actually no, I am not asking about the insurgent, I am asking about the program joseph5 told me about.
@Joseph5:
Any chance you could give me some pointers for the program.
Thanks
StarSheep
KoD
15th November 2006, 18:18
First make sure that it's indeed Cyberlink's avc decoder that gives you trouble. Open a file with "issues" -> right click on the video surface -> "Filter properties" submenu and see if CoreAVC is listed there or Cyberlink something AVC.
If it's Cyberlink something AVC, then you can use that FilterManager -> DirectShow Filters -> look for that Cyberlink something AVC -> click on it -> set Merit Unlikely -> Set Value. If it still shows up when playing that file, then just unregister it completely by pressing the Unregister button.
starsheep
15th November 2006, 22:16
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
That worked. After I unregistered the filter and tried playing the the MKV file again coreavc was active at once and the file played absolutely smooth. Thanks a lot guys you are the best.
One more thing. I also have T2 in 1080p quality as windows media format. What is the best quality way to play those?
Thanks
Cu
StarSheep
KoD
15th November 2006, 22:35
As I remember T2 was using Microsoft's wmv-hd format, so you just basicly need to install either Windows Media Player 10 or higher (WMP download page (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx?displang=en&qstechnology=)) or the Windows Media Format 9.5 SDK or higher (WMF SDK download page (http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsmedia/downloads/default.aspx)).
starsheep
16th November 2006, 16:07
Hi
Thanks for the links.
Does it make any sense to run the WMV HD playback through ffdshow?
Thanks
Cu
StarSheep
KoD
16th November 2006, 18:31
No. ffdshow can not decode all types of wmv profiles.
foxyshadis
16th November 2006, 21:27
T2 requires a special WMP patch to work with v10 or above: http://player.interactual.com/help/support/articles/0134.asp
starsheep
18th November 2006, 13:17
Ok thanks a lot
One more thing. It seems when I playback my files ony the ffdshow Video icon pops up in the tray. Before there also was an audio Icon.
Anybody knows why that is?
Thanks
StarSheep
check
18th November 2006, 14:17
either ffdshow is no longer being used to decode the audio, or you have disabled the audio icon from displaying.
starsheep
18th November 2006, 14:29
Any chance you can tell me how to check if ffdshow is used or how I can reenable it?
One more thing. Any thoughts on how to setup the ffdshow for better video quality. Cause I just played my weekly dose of Veronica Mars with ZP using ffdshow and with VLC and the VLC image looks better I think, less pixelation.
Any hints?
I know I am a pain in the ass but please be nice :-)
Cu
StarSheep
check
18th November 2006, 14:55
Using the CCCP Insurgent, run a test render on the file. If the ffdshow audio decoder shows up in that it is in use.
As for improving quality, other than re-encoding from the source if you still have it, there's little you can do. postprocessing on playback is something that I find blurs more than anything else, but if you prefer blur to mosquito noise it may be preferable to you.
starsheep
18th November 2006, 16:25
Sorry to ask again but what is that Insurgent.
I am a native German speaker and I cannot understand that term. Is that simply a program?
And how do I start it?
Thanks
StarSheep
check
18th November 2006, 17:33
http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=CCCP_Insurgent :)
starsheep
18th November 2006, 17:48
OK I did the Test Render and this came out:
Test Render of: F:\TV Series\Veronica Mars S3\veronica.mars.307.hdtv.xvid-xor.avi
Filter 0: Default DirectSound Device
Filename: C:\WINDOWS\system32\quartz.dll
Filter CRC: EFF011E9
Date: 2005-08-30 | 04:55:35
Filter 1: Video Renderer
Filename: C:\WINDOWS\system32\quartz.dll
Filter CRC: EFF011E9
Date: 2005-08-30 | 04:55:35
Filter 2: MPEG Layer-3 Decoder
Filename: C:\WINDOWS\system32\l3codecx.ax
Filter CRC: 48856FF5
Date: 2001-08-23 | 13:00:00
Filter 3: ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder
Filename: C:\Programme\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
Filter CRC: 008F8C24
Date: 2006-10-27 | 16:01:30
Filter 4: AVI Splitter
Filename: C:\WINDOWS\system32\quartz.dll
Filter CRC: EFF011E9
Date: 2005-08-30 | 04:55:35
Filter 5: F:\TV Series\Veronica Mars S3\veronica.mars.307.hdtv.xvid-xor.avi
Filename: C:\WINDOWS\system32\quartz.dll
Filter CRC: EFF011E9
Date: 2005-08-30 | 04:55:35
Note: For File CRC, use CRC Check from the Tools Menu!
What does this mean now?
Thanks
StarSheep
check
19th November 2006, 02:50
it means you shoulda read the rules.
kurt
19th November 2006, 12:34
check in ffdshows audio configuration the codec settings for mp3
starsheep
19th November 2006, 12:37
Hi
It says DISABLED and I can choose from mp3lib and libmad.
Which one do I need?
Thanks
StarSheep
kurt
19th November 2006, 20:08
try for yourself wich works for you better. mp3libmad should be fine though.
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