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Jack'n'xbox
28th October 2006, 19:10
I’m backing up Monster House with cce and “movie only” using pro 1.11.

The image comes out at 4.39 G. with no errors.

Log

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[12:07:30] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.11.0
- AVISYNTH 2.5.6.0
- CCE 2.70.2.10 encoder selected.
- "Movie Only" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 2,664,647 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 133,049 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 100.0%
- Overall Bitrate : 7,740/6,192Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,471,194KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 7,783/400/6,192 Kbs
-- FEATURE does not require reencoding.
[12:11:32] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 4 minutes.
[12:11:35] Phase II ENCODING started
- Extracting Video for VTS_01 segment 0
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[12:15:24] Phase II ENCODING completed in 4 minutes.
[12:51:01] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 2 CELLID 22
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- Rebuilding seg 30 VOBID 2 CELLID 52
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
- Building ISO Image...
- ISO Image successfully created.
- Writing ISO image to DVD...
- ISO Image successfully written.
[13:51:23] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 60 minutes.

Done.


Ini

[Options]
Mode=1
OneClick=0
ReduceOpt=0
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
HC_Quality=1
HC_Matrix=1
SkinVersion=12
AudioDub=1
QuEncodeType=0
iDCT=0
GOP=0
DCPrec=0
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
LowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
VLowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ProCoder_Quality=4
DVD_Label=MONSTER_HOUSE
DVD_Name=MONSTER_HOUSE.ISO
MovieOnly=1
HalfD1=00
Convert_16_9=00
DisableInterlace=00
ConvertToYUY2=1
CCE=3
Skin=Rockas Original
Completed=4
ISO_Output=1
ISO_Delete_Option=0
Decrypter_Write=1
Delete_Image_Option=0
RemoveDC=1
HalfD1Extras=0
[Paths]
DECOMB=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll
Working=E:\WORKER2\
Output=F:\
CCENew=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\cctspt.exe
Source=C:\RIP\MONSTER_HOUSE\
[Audio]
Selected=011
Remapping=
[Subpictures]
Selected=00
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=4


Can anyone give me any pointers as i what to do?

Thank you.
jdobbs
28th October 2006, 21:05
Hmmm... it seems to think that no reencoding is required and just extracts the original video.

I noticed there's a fairly lengthy break between the ENCODE and the REBUILD phase.

My guess is that you may have inadvertently changed the audio selections -- making it bigger during REBUILD than was expected during PREPARE. It's also very odd that the REBUILD would take that long. Normally it is about 15-20 minutes.
Jack'n'xbox
29th October 2006, 13:41
Hmmm... it seems to think that no reencoding is required and just extracts the original video.

I noticed there's a fairly lengthy break between the ENCODE and the REBUILD phase.

My guess is that you may have inadvertently changed the audio selections -- making it bigger during REBUILD than was expected during PREPARE. It's also very odd that the REBUILD would take that long. Normally it is about 15-20 minutes.

Hi

The break could be due to the fact that I didn't use "one-click" and was away from the computer.

And I did not fiddle with the sound selections. But I ran it again with one-click activated with the same results. It’s still too big.
[07:10:01] One Click encoding activated...
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[07:10:03] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.11.0
- AVISYNTH 2.5.6.0
- CCE 2.70.2.10 encoder selected.
- "Movie Only" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 2,664,647 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 133,049 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 100.0%
- Overall Bitrate : 7,740/6,192Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,471,194KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 7,783/400/6,192 Kbs
-- FEATURE does not require reencoding.
[07:14:01] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 4 minutes.
[07:14:01] Phase II ENCODING started
- Extracting Video for VTS_01 segment 0
- Extracting Video for VTS_01 segment 1
- Extracting Video for VTS_01 segment 2
- Extracting Video for VTS_01 segment 3
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- Extracting Video for VTS_01 segment 30
[07:18:00] Phase II ENCODING completed in 4 minutes.
[07:18:00] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 2 CELLID 22
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 2 CELLID 23
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- Rebuilding seg 28 VOBID 2 CELLID 49
- Rebuilding seg 29 VOBID 2 CELLID 50
- Rebuilding seg 30 VOBID 2 CELLID 52
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
- Building ISO Image...
- ISO Image successfully created.
- Writing ISO image to DVD...
- Error on Write-To-Disc. Check drive/disc.
- ISO Image WAS NOT successfully written.
[07:31:02] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 13 minutes.

Done.
[07:31:02] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 21 min.
jdobbs
29th October 2006, 13:46
Is this the NTSC version? If so, I'll pick it up today and give it a run.
SpazzHH
29th October 2006, 15:06
What did you rip it with? There have been new versions of almost all rippers just to deal with this disc.
kmac61
29th October 2006, 17:35
I recently ran into a title that resulted in an oversize(4.55gb) in movie only mode. In this case there turned out to be a large mount of unreferenced mat. (1100 mb) in the same vts as the main movie (Inherit the wind ntsc)
The movie w/ all audio and subs was actually 6,664mb, 128 min.
going straight from rip to rb movie only showed 7,764mb
orig. prep
[18:49:17] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.11.0
- AVISYNTH 2.5.5.0
- CCE 2.70.2.6 encoder selected.
- "Adaptive Quantizer Matrices" is enabled.
- "Movie Only" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,975,705 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 218,359 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 64.3%
- Overall Bitrate : 4,503/3,602Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,004,782KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,866/3,148/3,602 Kbs
[18:57:07] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 8 minutes.
the sectors ,frames #'s would indicate the extra 1100mb and the space for video seems a little high
after a mock strip in vobblanker
[19:23:39] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.11.0
- AVISYNTH 2.5.5.0
- CCE 2.70.2.6 encoder selected.
- "Adaptive Quantizer Matrices" is enabled.
- "Movie Only" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,411,488 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 184,641 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 62.7%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,192/4,153Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,904,356KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,744/3,067/4,153 Kbs
[19:29:39] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 6 minutes
now the sectors, frames, space for video seem right
back to orig. rip using rb in movie only dvd9 size then using that output in rb dvd5 size
[20:26:13] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.11.0
- AVISYNTH 2.5.5.0
- CCE 2.70.2.6 encoder selected.
- "Adaptive Quantizer Matrices" is enabled.
- "Movie Only" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,411,502 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 184,641 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 62.7%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,192/4,153Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,904,328KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,744/3,067/4,153 Kbs
[20:32:27] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 6 minutes.
same as the vb and when encoded produced proper size as usual So while it seems that rb removed the unref. mat. movie only no encoding i can't tell what it did straight off the bat other than there was an oversize which I'm assuming was due to the unref. mat in the same vts

note : % of reduction lower in prep 1 even though sectors, frames higher
jdobbs
29th October 2006, 20:00
Hmmm... maybe there's a link there -- unreferenced sectors in movie-only mode. I'll check it out.
setarip_old
29th October 2006, 20:53
@Jack'n'xBox

Hi!
Try ripping your "Monster House" DVD (and other new DVD releases) using the easy to use "RipIt4me" package. You can download this excellent freeware from:

www.ripit4me.org

While you're at that site, read the excellent "how to" tutorial...
jdobbs
29th October 2006, 23:10
...main movie (Inherit the wind ntsc)...Just as an OT side comment -- is that a great movie, or what? I just watched it again recently. Spencer Tracy is a true actor's actor.
Jack'n'xbox
30th October 2006, 01:49
Is this the NTSC version? If so, I'll pick it up today and give it a run.

yes it's NTSC.

@SpazzHH

Ripped with RipIt4me
jdobbs
30th October 2006, 18:29
Odd.

Well I just did Monster House in "Movie Only" mode and it did the same thing for me. But it's confusing right now as to why. I went back through and recalculated the output figures and it should add up to only be 4.04GB... but it's coming out 4.39GB.

As soon as I figure out what's happening I'll let you know.
jdobbs
30th October 2006, 21:50
Ok. It took most of the day to track it down, but I've fixed this problem. It is caused by a miscalculation in the target sizing when unreferenced cells exist. It only affects Movie-Only mode and only happens if the unreferenced sectors are in the same VTS as the PGC that represents the feature.

The fix will be in the next release.