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Viechal
19th October 2006, 08:45
HI guys,

I hope i dont post anything which has already been posted so far.
I m making gamemovies and tried to encode a scene with x264 using megui.
I used those settings:
x264:
--pass 3 --bitrate 3000 --ref 6 --mixed-refs --no-fast-pskip --bframes 5 --b-pyramid --b-rdo --bime --weightb --direct temporal --filter -1,-1 --subme 7 --trellis 2 --analyse all --8x8dct --qpmin 4 --vbv-maxrate 3300 --ratetol 5.0 --me umh --merange 32 --threads 2 --thread-input --cqm "jvt" --progress --no-psnr --output



I have encoded it on a resolution of 1280*800.
There was no problem with encoding it and the final file has a very nice quality.
I thought my codecresearch would now come to an end.
Well i sent this testfile to a friend in the same moment.
And he told me that he could not replay it with VLC.
He says he got lags and its not watchable.
He sent it to another friend too and this one told him, that he could watch it nearly to the end but then screen becomes black and it doesnt work anyway =(

When I play it back it works fine...
so what could be the problem of it?
thx mfg

quake74
19th October 2006, 09:05
Well, you really need to give us a sample so that we can test too (upse rapidshare or one of the others). Just looking at the command line, it's quite complex h264 and if it is also a high res, you really need a powerful cpu to run it without lags and stutter.

Viechal
19th October 2006, 09:16
i know...
i ll try to upload it now =)

yea i know that it needs a very powerful cpu...
i came to this res as i saw it in a quakemovie of shaolinproductions.org....
But im sure that this is not the prob, that the pc of my friend is not powerful enough... His one is very new... about 3 months.
i have a laptop with coreduo T2400 (2x 1,83 Ghz) and i dont have anyprobs =)
this should not be the problem =(

but well i ll give y a sample

Viechal
19th October 2006, 09:23
http://rapidshare.de/files/37306858/Quality_test.rar

here is the link
thx

quake74
19th October 2006, 09:57
I have no problem playing it with both vlc and mplayer on my Pentium M 1.86Ghz. I don't know what else to try, I'm gonna have to guess it's a problem with the software players on other people's machines.

On the side: did you look at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=106085 for encoding gaming footage?

Viechal
19th October 2006, 09:58
no thx =)

Viechal
20th October 2006, 10:00
well the problem is still there... do you think a lower bitrate would help?

or what could I do?
It should not lower the quality that much but it should be viewable on a average pc.

thx

check
20th October 2006, 10:41
the problem is most likely his CPU is too slow. VLC is a slow player, tell him to try coreavc.

Viechal
20th October 2006, 13:35
coreavc?
k tyverymuch


edit: could it be that windows media player is a faster player?
because he said he is able to watch it on this player...

well so my question: does it make sense to release my movies on this quality?
I really like this quality and it is beautiful to watch...
should i mabey release them with an installfile of a faster player?
thx

check
20th October 2006, 13:51
wmp uses directshow for decoding - so whatever decoder is installed is a whole other story.

Viechal
20th October 2006, 13:53
hmm... well as you can see i am completely new on encoding/decoding xD

what do you think could fix my problem?
I do want to release my movies on this quality...
So what do you suggest is intelligent to add to the package for the users watching my movie?

check
20th October 2006, 13:58
I'd suggest the CCCP :)
Also, read the rules! This is heading towards rule #6 territory.

Viechal
20th October 2006, 21:19
hehe is zoomplayer better for such vids like that?

check
21st October 2006, 08:47
last time I checked - ffdshow was faster than VLC for h264 decoding. If you want faster, you can try mplayer which is a few % than ffdshow, and coreavc is significantly faster.

bond
21st October 2006, 12:44
moved

Blue_MiSfit
22nd October 2006, 11:56
zoomplayer, windows media player, core media player, media player classic etc are all powered by directshow, which means they use the same software to decode.

ffdshow is a decoder that al these programs can use. Try it out.