Newby Questions

[9mmruger1]

I just purchased the pro version and have a question. I went through the steps tonight and did the movie Basic. I created a work folder and a finished folder, used the default settings.

Everything was good. Took 23 minutes to complete. I looked into the finished folder and found the movie files, but no ISO file to burn. Does RB create the ISO to be burned or do I have to use decrypter or imgburn to create the ISO?

I will probably have several questions, so be patient with me.

Thanks for the assistance.

Is there a guide for the latest versions anywhere?

[jdobbs]

In order to create an ISO file you just have to select "Output to ISO" under the MODE menu. It will be done automatically. You can also have it burn to disc automatically.

[9mmruger1]

Thanks so much! I knew it had to be easy. :)

[jdobbs]

23 minutes is pretty fast... what kind of processor are you using?

[9mmruger1]

I have a P4 3.7 with 2gigs of ram. This should handle most anything I want to throw at it. :)

In your opinion, should I get the CCE basic package encoder?

[jdobbs]

I did -- and I consider it to be one of my best purchases. It's very, very fast. It's limitations are that it doesn't support alternate matrices and is limited to two passes. But that's how I do all my discs anyway.

[candsh]

Curious as to what encoder you selected - ReJig maybe? - I use CCE Basic and just built a Athlon 64 X2 4200 and the first movie I did (movie and menu's only) took 64 minutes. Have you checked to see that you have playable video ?

[9mmruger1]

Curious as to what encoder you selected - ReJig maybe? - I use CCE Basic and just built a Athlon 64 X2 4200 and the first movie I did (movie and menu's only) took 64 minutes. Have you checked to see that you have playable video ?

I used the standard HC that came with RB. I should also let you know that I did Movie only, and it did not require encoding. That certainly had something to do with the speed.

@jdobbs

I plan to purchase the CCE basic today. Is there anything special I should know about installing it. Do I put it into the CCEencoderDummy folder that I created when I set RB up?

thank you.

[jdobbs]

Just install it in it's default folder and DVD-RB should find it the next time it runs. If for some reason it doesn't, just use the SETUP dialong in Rebuilder to browse for it.

[9mmruger1]

I did -- and I consider it to be one of my best purchases. It's very, very fast. It's limitations are that it doesn't support alternate matrices and is limited to two passes. But that's how I do all my discs anyway.

Being a total novice to rebuilder and encoders, when you speak of making two passes are you finishing one pass, putting the results into the work folder and reprocessing it again?

I don't understand how you would make a second pass I guess.

Thank you or others for your patience and time with me.

Cheers.

[candsh]

The best thing to do is get everything installed and then run the program just like it came to you and all the questions you have running around in your head will be answered and you will find out why we all love this program so much. It does for you what most of us could never do.....run the Big 3....properly and with the touch of one click!!! No offence intended to the Guru's here. We all know who you are!!

[9mmruger1]

@candsh

Thanks, impatient I am. Sitting here away from my computer at home and all these questions running through my head. Couple of hours and I'll be playing with it.

Cheers all.

[9mmruger1]

I did the Mask of Zorro and Ransom with rebuilder last night. The MOZ took about 123 minutes and Ransom which did not require encoding took about 25 minutes to do.

Does RB save the log files for each job?

I did not see anything about a second pass?

Is there a way to set the target size in kb's?

thanks

[jdobbs]

The two passes are done by the encoder.

In order to properly allocate available bits to an MPEG stream and meet a specified size, the encoder has to somehow know what it it dealing with. So what it does is run one pass that analyzes the data and a second pass that then uses that data to spread the available bits across pictures. A few encoders also allow for a third or higher pass, which looks at the allocation of the previous and makes more (very small) adjustments.

Each pass increases the amount of time for encoding. Generally two passes are all that is needed. After reviewing the data once the encoder should have all the information it needs to do what needs to be done.

If "Status Logging On" is selected (checked) under the FILE menu then a log is created for each job. If, however, you use the same working directory for more than one job the same log file is used for all (the output for each job is appended).

[9mmruger1]

Thank you for the reply, now that I think about it, I do seem to remember seeing a txt file in the folder with the ISO file that I created. I will look when I get home.

What about setting the target size? Is this something that I should concern myself with? I do not want to burn the media too close to the edge.

Thanks again.

[jdobbs]

Leave it at the default. It has been optimized to protect against exactly that. It will create images thar are 4.32GB long.

[dragongodz]

may i just jump in briefly to do a little defending of the freeware encoders. ye cce is very fast but the freeware encoders do not do a bad job encoding aswell. there have been plenty of threads where people have said encodes produced by HC and/or QuEnc(for example) have produced quality similar to CCE.

so ye buy CCE basic if you want of course but it would be nice if people actually gave the free alternatives a bit of a try before spending there cash.

ok back to your regular viewing. ;)

[jdobbs]

And the do support matrices...

I hope I didn't imply that there is anything wrong with freeware encoders... if so I didn't mean to.

[9mmruger1]

@jdobbs
I certainly did not take it that way.

@dragongodz
I am a regular at AfterDawn and have several buddies there that have recommended the CCE basic. I took their advice. I certainly see me vacilating between the HC and CCE to do quality comparisons.

Cheers. :)

[dragongodz]

I hope I didn't imply that there is anything wrong with freeware encoders... if so I didn't mean to.
no, just that once you said you considered it one of your best purchases some people, especially newbies, may get the wrong impression that CCE basic kills freeware encoders. i can see many newbies reading this "Newby Questions" thread.

I certainly see me vacilating between the HC and CCE to do quality comparisons.
cool. another reason i mentioned it is because sometimes people forget we(people such as hank315 and i) do not have paid beta testers etc. so we rely on people actually using/testing and reporting both problems and successes(ok this last one is rather rare, nice when it happens though :) ).