is www.avisynth.org down ?

[halsboss]

Can't seem to get to it (been trying for a bit).

Edit: found http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=884199#post884199
See here for website status: http://status.leafyhost.com/

[Bh4i]

Its down for more than 2 days for me...

[tomos]

worse now, only showing the hosting company i think

[vcmohan]

Against all servers it shows status as red dots. Does it mean up or down?

[ianken]

Looks like perhaps someone forgot to pay their hosting bill...

[foxyshadis]

No, it's very clear that the problem is a hardware failure, see the link above. They just haven't gotten around to restoring the backups yet, megui.org is the same. Hopefully the backups are good, it's been a while now.

Supposedly it'll be up tonight... but they said that 5 days ago, too.

[kharan5876]

Are any of the faqs/documentation about avisynth that are not on the site? I'm a complete newbie to this program.

[squid_80]

Documentation is installed with the program on your hard drive...

[nibbles]

And a bunch of reasonably current filters are mirrored here (http://www.64k.it/andres/dettaglio.php?sez=avisynth).
Good luck with learning how to use Avisynth. The Analog Capture
Guide at Doom9 has a section towards then end about Avisynth (http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/capture/postprocessing_avisynth.html).
It should help you in addition to the manual. Ok, nibs

[foxyshadis]

ps, since this seems to be the thread, hosted sites are all back online (read-only). This includes warpenterprises, stickboy's, and avsp's. The main site isn't because the database isn't back yet.

[Richard Berg]

I've sent PM to all hosted sites with updated login info. Hopefully the database will be back soon.

[Redmist]

Nice. I didn't realise how valuable those sites were until they went offline.

[Richard Berg]

I found a backup of the database from April. Assuming it works, don't make any edits -- they'll be lost when the "real" backup is restored. If possible I'll lock down the sites.

[stickboy]

For anyone who cares, I've put a temporary mirror of my stuff at:
http://www.taenarum.com/avisynth/

[Richard Berg]

http://avisynth.org/stickboy & other hosted sites are back up

[superuser]

even though avisynth site is down, http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises/ , where all filters are, is up and in running. Had downloaded more filters from there 2 days back only

[Sirber]

all 404 on every link above.

[Richard Berg]

Really? Not here. Someone else had a DNS issue -- make sure it's 64.74.232.24

[Sirber]

I'm on OpenDNS

[squid_80]

I'm on optus cable in aus, it's resolving to 82.165.203.128

[Richard Berg]

Something very bad is happening to my nameservers (a completely different company from the screwups who toasted the webserver!) Calling them now.

[Richard Berg]

The phone support said there was some known issue with their nameservers. In the online tool, all of my A records had been deleted. I went ahead and recreated them.

[geoffman]

Anyone know when it's gonna be back up?

[AlanHK]

Avisynth.org has been dead (for me) for weeks.

All I get is a page with this message:

Warning: require(lib/init.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/richardb/avisynth.org/tavi/tavi-current/lib/main.php on line 75

Fatal error: require() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'lib/init.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /home/richardb/avisynth.org/tavi/tavi-current/lib/main.php on line 75

[Richard Berg]

Even if I got it working, I'd have to lock it down since the database is from April. As it is, I can't repair the software because SSH access isn't working yet.

[Trixter]

Didn't the datacenter make backups? Did you make any backups?

[foxyshadis]

Again, you can read their explanation on the status page (http://status.leafyhost.com/).

I really wish they'd take that prevenge monitor off, it slows loading down something fierce.

[AlanHK]

Even if I got it working, I'd have to lock it down since the database is from April. As it is, I can't repair the software because SSH access isn't working yet.

Can't you at least get a static page up with some links instead of this error page?

[Richard Berg]

Good idea, thanks. Try now.

[CandyPong]

I suppose (hope) this is the right place to ask... as the site is down, is there any place where the FilterSDK and/or related info/files are mirrored? I would like to try and learn writing filters, but nearly every link points me to the (not working) wiki.

[stickboy]

I suppose (hope) this is the right place to ask... as the site is down, is there any place where the FilterSDK and/or related info/files are mirrored? I would like to try and learn writing filters, but nearly every link points me to the (not working) wiki.You can try neuron2's mirror of BenRG's original site (http://www.neuron2.net/www.math.berkeley.edu/benrg/index.html), specifically:
http://www.neuron2.net/www.math.berkeley.edu/benrg/avisynth-extensions.html

[Fizick]

probably we must include the SDK to offline docs...

[Richard Berg]

There's also http://www.geocities.com/siwalters_uk/SimpleSample10b.zip (rightclick -> save as)

[Rex_the_Runt]

I needed to check the syntax for a command. Web Archive was helpful:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.avisynth.org

[manono]

Hi-

A friend turned me onto this (thanks slanted!):

http://www.avisynth.org.ru/docs/english/

Seems to be a Russian mirror or something. I'm not really sure what it is, or how up-to-date it is. But it may come in handy until the real site is back up.

[stickboy]

I needed to check the syntax for a command. Web Archive was helpful:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.avisynth.org
If you need to check the syntax to a command, you should consult the documentation that comes with AviSynth.

[foxyshadis]

Hi-

A friend turned me onto this (thanks slanted!):

http://www.avisynth.org.ru/docs/english/

Seems to be a Russian mirror or something. I'm not really sure what it is, or how up-to-date it is. But it may come in handy until the real site is back up.

That's fizick's site ;), he mirrors up-to-date 2.5.7 docs.

[Fizick]

You can download old snapshot of the AviSynth.org (2005-04-08) from http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises/avisynth_org_20050408.rar

unpack to a directory using pathnames
(it contains FilterSDK too)

[DarkZell666]

For those who need(ed) to re-download avisynth, I would suggest adding this link to the "temporary" index page :

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57023 (download page on sourceforge).

[Rex_the_Runt]

If you need to check the syntax to a command, you should consult the documentation that comes with AviSynth.

**Kicks self for being so stupid**:o

[Richard Berg]

For those who need(ed) to re-download avisynth, I would suggest adding this link to the "temporary" index page :

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57023 (download page on sourceforge).

Done.

[halsboss]

With much gratitude over the years (read: too poor to pay) I have been an avid follower of the home page www.doom9.org to see news and new software updates ... the page seems to be a tad static in my browser of late.

Is the owner subject to some pressure (legal or otherwise), or interest diminished maybe, do you reckon ?

Cheerio

[Richard Berg]

Works for me.

[foxyshadis]

Report doom9.org problems in the forum support board, with IP number handy (because www.doom9.org has MANY mirrors, whichever one you're being served up might be down). You can get it by using nslookup.

[halsboss]

OK. I just type in www.doom9.org ... last news update on that page is dated 16/10/2006 for me.
nslookup www.doom9.org
Server: resolv.internode.on.net
Address: 192.231.203.132
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: server4.doom9.org
Address: 219.121.0.251
Aliases: www.doom9.org

WIll find and post to the forum support board, then.

[weblurker]

I read over the Nov 3 Leafyhost status page and it sounds like they're not going to send the hard disk out for recovery, at least not yet.

How will that affect your plans for bringing back the avisynth.org web site?

[Trixter]

It blows my mind that a webhosting facility didn't implement backups *and* won't be taking responsibility for loss of data. Surely you're going to move to a different facility, right?

[Richard Berg]

Wow, that's a horrible update. Yes, I am definitely moving to a new host as soon as I get my data back. Maybe even before then.

[weblurker]

Wow, that's a horrible update. Yes, I am definitely moving to a new host as soon as I get my data back. Maybe even before then.

The Nov 3 update mentioned this:

"Over today anyone who has data available for restoration should see it restored."

It sounds like your data, if it was recovered, should already be online. So if you haven't seen it yet, it might be a while before they get it back, if ever. :(

[AlanHK]

_____

[G_M_C]

I hope the site comes up soon, because there certanly seemt to be a need for it. I mention this, because the last few week I see more and more "UTFS" or "RTFM" questions, like how to resize or how to open stuff with DSS.

And i'm shure I've asked plenty of "simple questions" myself, but i've never asked for how to resize. Simply because i could read about it on the avisynth.org website .... but unfortunately it is now down.

So tips for people wanting to know the basics:
Look in in the AviSynth-folder in your start-menu. There is a basic manual included with the installation-package. It has more than enough information to get you going.

Also look for AvsP (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=115506), a nice and handy tool to help you build a script.

And last but not least; Use the search, because many of the questions have been answered before. I also use that method. And beside the answer your looking for, you get the change to find more posts with all kinds of alternatives to you problem. I do it that way, and slowly start to learn AviSynth that way, although learnig AviSynth is really slow going (i only know the smallest tip of the iceberg, but i keep learning)

[corrected type-O Tvsp must be AvsP offcourse. Also made it a link for people looking for it]

[AlanHK]

Also look for TvsP, a nice and handy tool to help you build a script.

Where is this? Google gives about 10 hits, none of which seem relevant.

[weblurker]

Wow, that's a horrible update. Yes, I am definitely moving to a new host as soon as I get my data back. Maybe even before then.

There's a new update from Leafyhost. This might be a chance for you to recover the lost data.
............

Are you missing data? Read this!
December 8, 2006 - 8:13 pm · 0 Comments

As you know (if you’ve read below,) we have sent Prevenge’s hard drive out to a data recovery lab. To make this as successful as possible we’re gathering information on missing data, to deliver to the lab. If you are missing any data, please fill out the form at the following address:

https://www.leafyhost.com/recovery/

This will help us and the lab expedite, and ensure greater accuracy in the recovery process.

[Richard Berg]

Yup, I've already filled it out. They expect to have all data restored by next Friday.

Needless to say, I have already opened an account at another host. I'll use this week to set everything up so I can switch over as soon as I get our data.

[Guest]

I always keep an exact mirror of my web site on my PC. Isn't that SOP? Wasn't that done by someone for Avisynth.org? You should never trust your service provider to protect your data.

[Richard Berg]

I have an exact mirror of all the PHP code and so on. Keeping an exact mirror of a database is a lot harder. Some of us technical folks who have been affected by the Leafy outage have banded together to write a small cron job that automatically generates mysql dumps and rsyncs it to an off-site FTP server, but it's not ready for production yet.

[martino]

So when is it going to be up and running again?

[Wilbert]

@Richard,
Data recovery job finished #5
January 12, 2007 - 6:15 pm · 0 Comments

Emails are going out now with the compiled file trees. Anyone who is missing data will receive an email, no matter how successful their recovery was. If you do not receive an email but are still missing files, please let us know by emailing 'support at leafyhost.com'. All emails will be sent out today.
Any news?

[PsychicHigh]

Lets put it this way... LeafyHost is taking their sweet time to do backups...


As for automatic mysql dumps, I have a script to do that for me on my webbox. It runs every 6 hours (more on sites that are more-active) and uploads automatically to 2 off-site ftps (one of my home computers and one of my development servers at another center)

Thgouh my script isn't the best of the best ;/ Still working on it to clean the bugs and all out.

[Richard Berg]

Supposedly my DBs were recovered.

BTW - I moved the site to the new host today, so there may be DNS issues over the next several hours.

[DarkZell666]

www.avisynth.org points me to the temporary page you had set up.

Note: the www. is automagically removed from the url when the page opens (ping avisynth.org gives me: 208.97.178.252).

Note2: I'm in France, dunno what it gives elsewhere :)

[Richard Berg]

I brought back the main avisynth.org wiki and http://avisynth.org/mediawiki. Note: they are still using the old copy of the database, so I've made them read-only.

[Si]

Relief all round!

Thanks for all your effort in preserving it :-)

regards
Simon

[Wilbert]

Note: they are still using the old copy of the database, so I've made them read-only.
Any idea when the most recent copy of the database is used?

[binba]

Am I missing something? Everyone here is so tranquil, you'd think nothing really happenned. But the website of our beloved tool has been down/severed for the last 3.5 months, and I couldn't even understand if it will be back.
I guess most of us rarely go to avisynth.org anymore, but I'm thinking about new users and expanding our user base. Besides, it's the official site, damnit.
Specifically, I was looking for the YV12 FAQ... but the mediawiki seems to be all gone.

Is doom9 properly backed up?!

[squid_80]

It's back, sort of:
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/YV12_FAQ

[tranfa]

Am I missing something? Everyone here is so tranquil, you'd think nothing really happenned. But the website of our beloved tool has been down/severed for the last 3.5 months, and I couldn't even understand if it will be back.
I guess most of us rarely go to avisynth.org anymore, but I'm thinking about new users and expanding our user base. Besides, it's the official site, damnit.
Specifically, I was looking for the YV12 FAQ... but the mediawiki seems to be all gone.

Is doom9 properly backed up?!


For us newbies, it's a crucial resource finally back..!:)

[Fizick]

1.The most recent YV12 faq is at off-line manual.
2. For some reason new host is slow connected from Russia

[kumi]

It's very slow on my USA connection as well.

[DarkZell666]

It's not too bad from here, the pages show in about 2 to 3 seconds.
It's better than nothing in any case ;)

[Wilbert]

@Richard,
Any idea when the most recent copy of the database is used?

[Richard Berg]

Any idea when the most recent copy of the database is used?
Now! :)

For the main site, anyway. I received data from the company today for all sites, but the data for MediaWiki does not appear to be complete. I'm still investigation.

[DarkZell666]

The site is much faster now btw (if ever you did something about it) :) Long live Avisynth ^^

[Richard Berg]

While I was mucking around in the DB I rebuilt the page index & turned off rate monitoring...glad it helped :)

[Wilbert]

Could anyone tell me how to make pictures visible?

I uploaded some pics (using the upload button on the left) and tried

[[Image:picture.jpg]]

but it doesn't show any picture. (I've read somewhere that for external pics Richard needs to set some flag, but internal pics should work the way i tried.)

[Richard Berg]

Should be fixed now. I also turned on TeX. http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/User:RichardB

[Wilbert]

Should be fixed now.
Yes, it works! Thx.

I also turned on TeX. http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/User:RichardB
The famous eta function :) That's very cool!

[CAFxX]

IIRC there was an ongoing project about gathering all the various scripts before the server crashed. Was it abandoned or are you simply still waiting for the previous hosting company to recover the missing data? (just curious)

edit: Found it on archive.org (http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.avisynth.org/mediawiki/wiki/User:Clouded/Rough_Classification)

[foxyshadis]

It was actually moved to
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/External_plugins

[Boulder]

The site seems to be down again.

[DarkZell666]

It's ok here (mind you, it could have been fixed since).

[Richard Berg]

http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/08/dns-issues-causing-possible-site-and-email-downtime/

UPDATE (2007-04-08 03:20 PDT): It appears we are the victims of an Easter DOS attack against our nameservers, we have an admin at the datacenter and our network expert onhand to deal with it. Hopefully things will be back to normal shortly.

UPDATE (2007-04-08 04:54 PDT): We seem to have isolated and resolved the DoS attack for the moment...

[halsboss]

Is it just me, or has the front page become a TARDIS and is going backward in time ? I swear I saw items drop off the top today and the top news item is back to 18/4... The good Doctor seems to have been silent for a while, so I hope he is OK and not subject to an evil rampaging Dalek plot to kill him, if you get my drift.


edit:- yes you are right, a brain-freeze... doom9 front page... I confused for a minute. Sorry.

[Wilbert]

I have no idea what you are talking about, but some ass is spamming avisynth.org/mediawiki. I contacted Richard about it, but he hasn't replied yet.

[Leak]

I have no idea what you are talking about, but some ass is spamming avisynth.org/mediawiki. I contacted Richard about it, but he hasn't replied yet.
He could have meant the doom9 front page - that one is going back and forth in time a lot, due to a (very) flaky mirror I believe...

np: Burnt Friedman & The Nu Dub Players - Paternoster (Version) (Difficult Easy Listening)

[Richard Berg]

I've disabled anonymous edits on mediawiki.

How close do you think we are to pointing http://avisynth.org to mediawiki?

[Fizick]

Are license problem of mediawiki resolved?
may be switch to CC BY 3.0 (the most free of CC licenses) ? :)
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We usually say: script by Didee, etc...

[Richard Berg]

I did remove the "NC" (noncommercial) restriction a long time ago. That was a dumb oversight.

I don't see much difference between "BY" and "BY-SA". Avisynth functions are only useful as plaintext.

[Wilbert]

How close do you think we are to pointing http://avisynth.org to mediawiki?
My aim is the first of June. I'm porting the shared functions at the moment. After that the utilities need to be done as well as some other minor stuff.

[Richard Berg]

Great! Thanks for all your work.

It looks like files uploaded to Mediawiki before the move were not recovered. http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:Imagelist&offset=20070224110833

Those are all just scripts. They should probably be copied into real wiki pages anyway so that they can be versioned. Hopefully someone knows where to find the latest version of each.

[Richard Berg]

Here's the page I made for YLevels: http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/YLevels

I put it in [Category:External plugins] and [Category:Script functions]. Do these sound like good categories? Having all the script functions on the "share functions" page is good for preserving old content but won't scale with all the new functions people write nowadays. External Plugins would be for everything listed on that page, just like [Category:Internal filters].

[Richard Berg]

I'm starting the redirect. The old wiki will be at http://avisynth.org/oldwiki

[check]

Instead of requiring registration, why not just add in a simple captcha? I added ConfirmEdit to MeWiki in about 15 minutes, it posts up a simple numerical sum that the user must solve IF (editor is user level or below (ie anonymous) AND edit adds at least one new external link). http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit#ConfirmEdit

[Richard Berg]

It was the quickest way to stop the flood. I added captcha to the old wiki, and will probably do it again.

[Fizick]

I agree, that "external plygins" must not contains scripts.
Scripts must be in separate category. But why create new (Script functions) instead good old "shared functions" ?
It must be re-organized through.

[IanB]

Here's the page I made for YLevels: http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/YLevelsYouch! What is with people and super wide web pages these days.

[Richard Berg]

I agree, that "external plygins" must not contains scripts.
Scripts must be in separate category. But why create new (Script functions) instead good old "shared functions" ?
It must be re-organized through.
"Script functions" is just for scripts, right.

"External plugins" is for both scripts and DLLs. Pages can belong to multiple categories, so this is no problem. Also, "external plugins" is the name of the page where Wilbert has manually categorized scripts & plugins by function: http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/External_plugins

I don't think we need to manually organize scripts. Using [[Category]] will create a summary page for us automatically. If someone wants to see the right filter for a function, they should look at External_plugins to compare all types of filters (internal, script, DLL).

"Shared functions" was created on the old wiki, before we had the [[Category]] feature. On the new wiki, it doesn't make sense to manually create these lists. In other words, we can delete the "shared functions" AND "script functions" pages once all the content is moved to the individual script's page, and the category page is working.

I disliked the name "shared functions" almost as soon as I created it :) The whole point of the website is to share info -- it's redundant. "Script functions" is more descriptive. So long as we're changing from a manual list-page to Category, I don't think it would hurt to change the name.

I remain open to ideas, of course.

Youch! What is with people and super wide web pages these days.
The same reason Doom9 pages become wide when someone uses the {code} feature. Most pages are not that wide.

[Wilbert]

"Shared functions" was created on the old wiki, before we had the [[Category]] feature. On the new wiki, it doesn't make sense to manually create these lists. In other words, we can delete the "shared functions" AND "script functions" pages once all the content is moved to the individual script's page, and the category page is working.
Ok, i agree with this. I will change it when i finished the script page.

I'm not sure we are on the same wavelength, because (imo) we need a short summary of all the scripts and external plugins on one page. Of course we can put this on the external_plugins page, and then the "Shared functions" page can be deleted.

[Fizick]

I do not like idea to mix plugins with scripts.
At least if you (foxyshadis) want mix them in one page, lets rename this "External plugins" page to "External functions"
or "External filters".
somebody (me ?) may create new "External plugins" page with plugins list only. Or may be this page may be created automatically (from category).



Plugin is DLL file, not AVS script.
"Function" is more common term, "Filter" is even more general term.

Why classification of Internal filters is differ from classification of External filters?

Ann do not understand, why you set category for YLevels as
"Categories: External plugins | Script functions"

What is double category for? And how it works?
As logical AND or logical OR?

IMHO, if it is AND, the for YLevels it could be:
Categories: Script Filter | Adjustment Filters

may be:
Categories: Script Filter | Levels and Chroma Adjustment Filters

may be:
Categories: Script Filter | Filters for image processing

Some additional question. Consider current classification:
Restoration filters - Chroma correction
Adjustment Filters - Levels and Chroma

Most of them make uniform full-frame color adjustment. IMHO Color matrix, YLevels and other must be in one category (Color adjustment?) with ColorYUV, Invert and some other interrnal filters.

And so on.

Bottom line: different peoples will use different classification (categories).

Is it possible to have many:

RichardB_Categories: External plugins | Script functions
Fizick_Categories: Script Filter | Color adjustment Filter

?
:)

[Richard Berg]

I'm not sure we are on the same wavelength, because (imo) we need a short summary of all the scripts and external plugins on one page.
Yes. Right now that page is External_plugins. I agree with Fizick we should rename to External_filters. (I don't like External_functions -- sounds too much like the Function script keyword)

Categories are logical OR. If you add [[Category:1]] and [[Category:2]] to a page then it will show up on Special:Category1 and Special:Category2. You can add as many as you want.

So, if you tag each DLL plugin page with [[Category:External plugins]] then a page with only those plugins will be automatically created. Same for [[Category:Script functions]].

The proposal is thus: each filter page gets added to at least 2 categories. Either External_filters + Script_functions, or External_filters + External_plugins. In addition, we will create a user-friendly guide called External_filters.

We could use categories for organization into Source Filters, Color Filters, etc. but I think that is too much work. We need to manually create a page for this anyway so we can have short descriptions. If we decide to re-organize, only 1 page needs to be changed. Of course, if we have volunteer labor to spare, we can do both :)

The only downside to the central External_filters page is that people adding new filters need to remember to edit it. (adding Category:blah won't be enough) The benefit, if they do remember, is to upload directly -- no need to bother WarpEnterprises.

RichardB_Categories: External plugins | Script functions
Fizick_Categories: Script Filter | Color adjustment Filter
Maybe, but let's find a better way :)

On the other hand, feel free to add Category:Fizick_plugins to the pages for FFT3DFilter, MvTools, etc. That is useful.

[foxyshadis]

Me? >.>

For what it's worth, I think scripts and plugins are different and should not be lumped together, but instead grouped by subcategory, exactly as Fizick argues, but some page needs to collect every known function/filter/script/built-in by category, but not manually.

The handmade existing filters is useful as long as not everything has a wiki entry, so that at least you have the names of many unlisted filters to start an investigation. A living page that collects the contents of each category live will be preferred in the long run; I forget how to do that in Mediawiki.

[Richard Berg]

Was merging scripts & plugins not your idea, foxyshadis? The wiki thinks it is :) My memory says it may have been Clouded...

Anyway, I still think it's helpful for newbs. If they're looking for a sharpen filter, no reason XSharpen and LimitedSharpen should be listed separately.

If we use the automatic [[Category]] feature for subcategories (e.g. source, color transform) then we need to agree on a list of subcategories before we start.

A living page that collects the contents of each category live will be preferred in the long run; I forget how to do that in Mediawiki.
You mean something that could automatically group Category:Source_filters and Category:Color_filters and [...] onto one page? I don't think that is possible. (If it is, that would be great!)

What you can do is put the [[Category]] directive on subcategory pages. So Category:External_filters would have links to Category:Color_filters and so on.

[Richard Berg]

Ok, I should stop speculating. There is tons of info on the Category feature here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category Also lots of extensions that may be useful to us.

[Fizick]

Subcategory is right solution,
even if we will use different subcategories, but same Category.

So, for YLevels may be:
Categories: Color correction | Script filter


and for Color correction subcategory:
Category: External_filters

or may be:
for Color correction subcategory:
Categories: Filters

need some discussion (for internal too)

[Richard Berg]

Ok, subcategories it is. If we want to add short blurbs about filters, we can do it on their category page. Category pages would also be a good place to link to comparisons like http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t294129.html and http://heptium.sh.cvut.cz/~integra/deint/ and others we create on the wiki itself :)

Here are the categories on the current External_plugins page:


* 1 Source Filters
* 2 Restoration Filters
o 2.1 Antialiasing
o 2.2 Chroma correction
o 2.3 Deblocking
o 2.4 Dehaloing
o 2.5 Deringing
o 2.6 Deinterlacing
o 2.7 Fieldblending and Frameblending removal
o 2.8 Film Damage correction
o 2.9 Frequency Interference removal
o 2.10 IVTC & Decimation
o 2.11 Ghost Removal
o 2.12 Logo removal
o 2.13 Luma Equalisation
o 2.14 Rainbow & Dot Crawl removal
o 2.15 Stabilisation
* 3 Denoisers
o 3.1 Spatial Denoisers
o 3.2 Temporal Denoisers
o 3.3 Spatio-Temporal Denoisers
* 4 Adjustment Filters
o 4.1 Audio Filters
o 4.2 Field Order
o 4.3 Frame Rate Conversion
o 4.4 Levels and Chroma
o 4.5 Linedarkening
o 4.6 Sharpeners
o 4.7 Resizers
o 4.8 Effects
o 4.9 Subtitling
o 4.10 Colourspace Conversion
* 5 Other Filters
o 5.1 Debug Filters
o 5.2 Filters supporting Scripts
o 5.3 Meta-Filters
o 5.4 Multipurpose Filters
o 5.5 Import Filters
* 6 As Yet Unclassified


I think it's fairly good. Anything we need to change before we begin? Keep in mind similar subcategories like "Restoration\Chroma correction" vs "Adjustment\Levels" don't necessarily have to be combined. ColorMatrix should be added to both subcategories; YLevels should not be.

@Fizick: maybe we need two separate hierarchies. How about:

Filters
|----Internal filters (AviSource, Levels)
|------Syntax sugar (AlignedSplice) **
|------External but included (DirectShowSource, colorsrgb) **
|----External filters
|------External plugins (fft3dfilter, ApplyEvery)
|------Script functions (limitedsharpen, JDL_wipe)


*****************************************


Filters by category
|---Source filters
|---Restoration filters
|---Antialiasing filters
|---etc.
|---etc.

In this system, every filter page would belong to exactly two categories, one from each hierarchy.

** do we really need these to be separate categories? probably not. just an idea.

@Wilbert: can you un-sticky this thread? It's not about "server down" anymore.

[Fizick]

may be Wilbert can move several last posts to mediawiki thread
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=105205

[Fizick]

draft of updated internal filters classification:
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Talk:Internal_filters

[Richard Berg]

I replied.