DVDRebuilder 1.10.8 Error Report

[TheSeeker]

Ok, so I'm trying to backup Rome Volume 3 and I keep getting a Corrupt Stream has been detected error in my Logs. I have done no preprocessing, and beta viewer/editor is off. Here is a sample from the log file which is too big to upload (1.2 mb)

- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
[10:46:51] 00068 00006 -- error collecting header extension.
[12:45:54] 00067 00380 -- error getting MPEG header.


I then tried using version 1.10.7 on the exact same source material and it worked fine. What is rather strange is that procoder took about 240 minutes with version 1.10.8, but took over 300 minutes with 1.10.7 and worked. So it's almost like version 1.10.8 is causing procoder to skip segments or something. Just let me know if you want any more info.

[blutach]

Is the rip OK? If it can't find the header I would think this indicates bad navpacks.

Regards

[jdobbs]

What did you use to rip the source? This is almost always an indicator of a bad rip...

Can you send zip up the REBUILDER.INI, REBUILDER.INF, REBUILDER.ECL files and send them to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com?

Is this the NTSC version of ROME?

[jdobbs]

Did you rip the source again for the encode with v1.10.7? I just did a line-by-line comparison of the two sources (v1.10.7 and v1.10.8) and the code in those modules is identical. I then compared every other line in the entire set of sources -- and nothing supports a difference in processing that could account for this.

Could you rerip and try v1.10.8 again? I'm pretty confident this was a bad rip.

[TheSeeker]

Did you rip the source again for the encode with v1.10.7? I just did a line-by-line comparison of the two sources (v1.10.7 and v1.10.8) and the code in those modules is identical. I then compared every other line in the entire set of sources -- and nothing supports a difference in processing that could account for this.

Could you rerip and try v1.10.8 again? I'm pretty confident this was a bad rip.

Actually I did not rerip when I tried 1.10.7. I used the exact same source for both tries. I actually tried version 1.10.8 3 times before trying 1.10.7. Unfortunately I don't have those files from the 1.10.8 try because I just deleted and tried with 1.10.7. Sorry Im not much help... I will try starting from scratch. It's just strange that one version worked and the other didn't on the exact same source material.

[Sharc]

I just experienced the same problem with same error pattern as reported by The Seeker
I am using DVD_RB 1.10.8 Pro. Never had this problem before using identical software package as before.

Edit:
I could add that the *.m2v files play fine on the PC.
The original rip also plays perfectly on the PC.

[SpazzHH]

Same here with VTS 05 of the R1 disc Thank You For Smoking.

[jdobbs]

Was it ROME as well? What did you use to rip it?

[EDIT] I must be blind. I didn't even notice the title was in the post...

[SpazzHH]

I ripped mine with AnyDVD first. Then reripped with DVDFab. Same result.

[jdobbs]

Cool. I'll work on it today. So it was ROME, R1, Vol 3, VTS_05?

[SpazzHH]

Thank You For Smoking R1-VTS 05

Also received the same error with the new X-Men disc when ripped with AnyDVD 6.0.7.0, it went away when ripped with just DVDFab.
Same error with King Arthur-Directors Cut. Only in the X-Men disc did the error go away when reripping.

Sources were partly preprocessed, but the VTS's the errors occurred in, were untouched.

In all cases AnyDVD reported no type of copy protection other than RCE.

[jdobbs]

:confused:

I just did "Thank You For Smoking", NTSC, R1 yesterday. No problem.

[jdobbs]

What version of AnyDVD are you using? I used 6.0.6.3. I noticed there is a newer version (6.0.7.0) that came out on the 25th -- I want to make sure it isn't the cause of the problem.

Also, can you try it without the processing? It makes it almost impossible to debug.


[Added] Can you give me the specific steps you used to rip with AnyDVD? I usually run DVD Decrypter over AnyDVD to create an ISO on my hard drive. I then mount the ISO with Daemon Tools. How did you rip it?

[SpazzHH]

I get the error starting with VTS 05 seg 1 VobID 2 CellID 1

The error is 00051 00005 -- error attempting to write NAVPACK.
Warning: Corrupt stream detected


The AVS files and the encoded segments play fine with MPC.

[SpazzHH]

What version of AnyDVD are you using? I used 6.0.6.3.

Also, can you try it without the processing? It makes it almost impossible to debug.

6.0.7.0
I'll try it unprocessed, but I don't have much hope of success since I didn't touch any of the VTS's I'm having trouble with.

[jdobbs]

Hmmm... I'm having suspicions about AnyDVD's new version. It's really odd that it worked for me with 6.0.6.3, but not with 6.0.7.0. Can you tell me how you ripped it (file/iso)? I'd like to test it.

I'll rerip it today with the new version and see what happens. File mode?

[jdobbs]

@TheSeeker

What software/version did you use to rip?

[SpazzHH]

Hmmm... I'm having suspicions about AnyDVD's new version. It's really odd that it worked for me with 6.0.6.3, but not with 6.0.7.0. Can you tell me how you ripped it (file/iso)? I'd like to test it.

I'll rerip it today with the new version and see what happens. File mode?

File Mode
Just did a copy and paste to a folder on the Desktop.

[jdobbs]

The "Thank You For Smoking" version I did was Widescreen -- same for you?

[jdobbs]

@Anyone who can repeat this

Can you look in the D2VAVS directory and tell me the length (in bytes) of the .FLG file for the segment that fails? If possible, maybe a directory listing would be good.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Are any of you doing anything special like "Movie Only", "Movie and Menus Only", or are you editing at all?

[jdobbs]

I just experienced the same problem with same error pattern as reported by The Seeker
I am using DVD_RB 1.10.8 Pro. Never had this problem before using identical software package as before.

Edit:
I could add that the *.m2v files play fine on the PC.
The original rip also plays perfectly on the PC.Same disc?

[Sharc]

*.m2v on Drive C:
Original rip on drive D:
Same disc

Both play fine using any SW player on the PC

RipIt4Me, including FixVTS

[jdobbs]

What I meant was: Was your problem also on Rome, Vol 3?

[Sharc]

Oliver Twist, Region 2, PAL, VTS03

[jdobbs]

Did you do any preprocessing?

I'm really getting nowhere on this. I just bought X-Men, The Last Stand, so I could see if it would cause the problem. Installed AnyDVD v6.0.7.0 and copied the files to my desktop (so I would match SpazzHH's method exactly) and started the encode using v1.10.8. I even downloaded it and installed it again to make sure it was an exact match of the scenario.

It isn't done yet -- but it sure looks like it's working ok...

Something is different -- if it wasn't a bad rip, I'm open to suggestions, because I've just about exhausted all possibilities.

[Sharc]

Yes, VobBlanker for removing 1 of the Extras, but did not touch the main feature where I have the problem now.
I also blanked the remaining extras with the beta Segment Viever/Editor in order to gain more space, plus reduced the Menu size and the credits further, finally I Allocated Saved Space to Feature, without problems.

Just tried to "Rebuild" again: Crashing happened later this time (around 20% of completion; before it crashed at around 15%).

[jdobbs]

Something else is going on here. I just finished X-Men -- absolutely no problem. That's two of the reported discs that finished without issue.

Sorry, but the software doesn't act differently based upon who is running it... and I just don't see any other explanation other than the preprocessing or a bad rip.

[Sharc]

Just made following observation, I don't know if it is relevant:

The file list in DVD-Shrink / Re-author mode shows 8 Titles as Extras (1 still frame + 7 titles), plus 1 feature title, plus Menu.
In Full-Disc mode, Title 2,8 appear as combined

DVD-RB Segment Viewer (old and new) show only 7 titles as Extras (1 still frame + 6 titles). The 8th title (a 400 MB file as displayed by DVD-Shrink) is not displayed, neither under Extras nor under Menu nor under Main feature. It just seems to have disappeared or is invisible.

Does this help?

[jdobbs]

Is that the one you said you removed with VOBBLANKER?

Can you mail me the IFO files? Also, if you could, can you mail me a directory listing of the source directory? dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com.

[jdobbs]

@Sharc

I noticed you have PMs disabled on your account. Would it be ok if I sent you something via your registered e-mail account? (I don't like to use anyone's registered e-mail for anything without his/her permission)

[Sharc]

No, not the one I removed.

Files are on the way......

No objections to use my registered email

[stereo]

Hey jdobbs

I'm also experiencing problems, receiving the "WARNING: Corrupt stream detected" errors.

I'm trying to backup The Score (PAL). Scenario, as per usual:

1. Disc was ripped using DVDDecrypter, file mode, and AnyDVD 6.0.5.0.
2. Unwanted audio streams removed using IFOEdit 0.96
3. A few extras removed using VobBlanker 2.1.1.0 (though the VTS affected wasn't touched)
4. Project loaded into DVD RB 1.10.8 (Backup mode: Full backup)
5. RB-Opt 0.23 was used to adjust bitrates
6. CCE 2.70.02.06 was used
7. Errors pop up

I have all project files, so let me know what you need. Log:

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[15:52:48] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.10.8
- CCE 2.70.2.6 encoder selected.
- VTS_02: 273.206 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 18.641 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 2.927.285 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 178.582 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 65,9%
- Overall Bitrate : 4.011Kbs
- Space for Video : 3.862.752KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 5.347/853/4.011 Kbs
[15:55:57] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 3 minutes.
[18:41:40] One Click encoding activated...
[18:41:40] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 3
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- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 12
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- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 15
[23:26:38] Phase II ENCODING completed in 285 minutes.
[23:26:39] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_02
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 1 CELLID 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_06
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 1 CELLID 2
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 1 CELLID 3
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 3 VOBID 1 CELLID 4
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 4 VOBID 1 CELLID 5
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 5 VOBID 1 CELLID 6
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 6 VOBID 1 CELLID 7
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 7 VOBID 1 CELLID 8
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 8 VOBID 1 CELLID 9
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 9 VOBID 1 CELLID 10
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 10 VOBID 1 CELLID 11
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 11 VOBID 1 CELLID 12
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Rebuilding seg 12 VOBID 1 CELLID 13
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- Rebuilding seg 13 VOBID 1 CELLID 14
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- Rebuilding seg 14 VOBID 1 CELLID 15
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- Rebuilding seg 15 VOBID 1 CELLID 16
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected.
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- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_06_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
[23:42:08] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 16 minutes.

Done.
[23:42:08] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 301 min.

BATCH SUMMARY
Batch Job #1 finished in 00301 minutes.


/stereo

[jdobbs]

What happens when you try it without the editing?

[Sharc]

Just made a new PREPARE without any preprocessing by Vobblanker. Now running a new attempt for ENCODE+REBUILD.

Still get this discrepancy between DVD-RB Viewer and DVD-Shrink regarding the Title 8 which is not visible in DVD-RB viewer/editor.

I also noticed that the studio logo cells that are part of the Menu in the original disc are not visible in DVD-RB Viewer/Editor. (Needless to say that I would prefer to blank these and use the freed space for something better ....)

[jdobbs]

Can everyone who is getting this error tell me what version of AVISYNTH they are using?

[stereo]

Hey

Yeah, of course. I'll give it a go when i get home later this afternoon. I'm at work - yawwwn

/stereo

[jdobbs]

Just made a new PREPARE without any preprocessing by Vobblanker. Now running a new attempt for ENCODE+REBUILD.

Still get this discrepancy between DVD-RB Viewer and DVD-Shrink regarding the Title 8 which is not visible in DVD-RB viewer/editor.

I also noticed that the studio logo cells that are part of the Menu in the original disc are not visible in DVD-RB Viewer/Editor. (Needless to say that I would prefer to blank these and use the freed space for something better ....)If it's in the VIDEO_TS.VOB or the VTS is smaller than the minimum size setting (default of 50MB) it won't show up in the viewer/editor and is copied intact.

[jdobbs]

@Spazzhh

Any way you can post the INI file you were using with your encode of either "Thank You For Smoking" or "X-Men"? I'd like to try it with your exact settings...

[SpazzHH]

@Spazzhh

Any way you can post the INI file you were using with your encode of either "Thank You For Smoking" or "X-Men"? I'd like to try it with your exact settings...

Here you go. BTW using Avisynth 2.56.
[Options]
SkinVersion=12
HC_Quality=3
LogFile=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
idct7Opt=1
AudioDub=0
CCE=3
AdditionalOutput=1
LowMatrix=6-Medium_Low(2500-3200)
VLowMatrix=7-Low_High(1800-2500)
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
MIN_BITRATE=200
TargetSectors=2262000
CCETargetSectors=2260000
HCTargetSectors=2262000
VTS_MIN_SIZE=0
VTSM_MIN_SIZE=1024
CLOSED_CAPTIONS=1
HalfD1=000000000
Convert_16_9=000001000
DisableInterlace=000000000
Completed=551
ReduceOpt=0
MovieOnly=0
QuEncScene=1
QuEncHQ=1
QTrellis=0
SkipPrepare=1
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
Mode=1
ConvertToYUY2=1
Skin=Rockas Original
OneClick=0
DVD_Label=THANKYOUFORSMOKING_WS
DVD_Name=THANKYOUFORSMOKING_WS.ISO
RemoveDC=1
Backcolor=14215660
NoWarn=0
DCPrec=0
QuEncodeType=0
GOP=0
ISO_Output=1
HC_VBR_Bias=10
ProCoder_Quality=4
iDCT=7
HalfD1Extras=0
ISO_Delete_Option=0
Decrypter_Write=1
Delete_Image_Option=0
Encode_Processes=2
Encode_Menus=0
NewEditor=0
TargetSizeMode=0
[Paths]
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Ripping Tools\CCE SP v2.70.02.10\cctspt.exe
REJIG=C:\Program Files\Ripping Tools\DVD-RB\ReJig\ReJig.exe
QuEnc=C:\Program Files\Ripping Tools\DVD-RB\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ProCoder=C:\Program Files\Ripping Tools\DVD-RB\EclPro\EclPro.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\Ripping Tools\DVD-RB\DGDecode\1.45\DGDecode.dll
Working=H:\TEMP\DVD-RB\
Output=G:\DVD\THANKYOUFORSMOKING_WS\
Source=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ALL USERS\DESKTOP\THANKYOUFORSMOKING_WS\VIDEO_TS\
HC=C:\Program Files\Ripping Tools\DVD-RB\HC019\HCenc_019.exe
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111...111111111111
sLanguages=00000000000000000000000...000000000000
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=15
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=3
[Audio]
Selected=11111111111110001
Remapping=
[Subpictures]
Selected=1111111111111000


Also as a side note, I tried this again last night. Reripped and used CD Check to verify the ripped files to the ones on the disc. They were found to be identical. Again the encode failed on rebuild with slightly different error message relating to the corrupt stream warnings. No preprocessing at all. Only blanking segments with RB. Interested in the log files?

[jdobbs]

Yes, please. You say you did blanking... did you blank in any of the other discs that were reported as getting the "Corrupt source" message?

Could you spell out exactly the steps you took? What segments were blanked?

Also could you send me the three matrices you reference in your INI file? Send to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com

Thanks.

[stereo]

What happens when you try it without the editing?

ATM I'm running another encode on a totally un-edited source (ripped using DVD Decrypter [file mode] + AnyDVD 6.0.5.0 -> DVD RB 1.10.8 in 1 click mode [no batch this time]). will report back when the job finishes.

I'm using AviSynth 2.5.6.0

/stereo

[SpazzHH]

Yes, please. You say you did blanking... did you blank in any of the other discs that were reported as getting the "Corrupt source" message?

Could you spell out exactly the steps you took? What segments were blanked?

Also could you send me the three matrices you reference in your INI file? Send to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com

Thanks.

Info sent. off to work. Be back later.

[jdobbs]

Thanks!!! :D

[Trahald]

I did a simple test.. ran xmen3 with no preprocessing and no blanking and it processed fine. then i went into the dvdrb editor, blanked a few segments.. then hit rebuild and viola.. tons of corrupt stream warnings. then i go back into the preview/edit and unselect the segments for blanking, hit rebuild, and no errors.

[jdobbs]

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW!!! :D I was following that same line of thought (at least partially). I currently have a job running that is using the exact blanking procedures as SpazzHH -- hopefully I'll have something to work with when it completes...

If I can repeat that, I'll have this fixed today.

Thanks Trahald!

[Added] Which segments did you blank? Any in particular needed? I know I did some test blanking yesterday or the day before -- but I don't think it was with that source... I think I may have used the new editor...

Did you use the new or the old editor?

[Trahald]

this was the new editor. i randomly blanked stuff.. vts 2 v1c1 vts 3 v1/c2 vts 6 (main movie)v1/c3 . i picked them in sequence

[jdobbs]

Looks like it's even more specific than that. It seems to only happen when some of your ECLs use a custom matrix and others don't... no wonder it took so long to find it. I'm still trying to find exactly what causes it. I think it is also the root of the problem reported by Whitespliff here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=116441).

:scared:

[jdobbs]

this was the new editor. i randomly blanked stuff.. vts 2 v1c1 vts 3 v1/c2 vts 6 (main movie)v1/c3 . i picked them in sequence Are you using custom matrices in your setup?

I think I know what's causing it -- but I can't seem to make the connection to the viewer/editor...

[jdobbs]

Ok -- fixed it. It wasn't really related to custom matrices, but they made it more obvious. The problem was stray characters from previous encodes being left at the end of ECL files. It was caused by the way the buffering was done for read/writes of the ECL files.

I'm looking at one more quick fix and hopefully will get v1.10.9 out today.

[godhead]

Ok -- fixed it. It wasn't really related to custom matrices, but they made it more obvious. The problem was stray characters from previous encodes being left at the end of ECL files. It was caused by the way the buffering was done for read/writes of the ECL files.

I'm looking at one more quick fix and hopefully will get v1.10.9 out today.

I was just about to ask if you needed any information from my latest encode of "Three...Extremes" that presented the same Corrupt Stream message. I will wait for v1.10.9 and try again to see if this corrected the error.

[stereo]

OK, good to know. I've aborted my project, and am looking forward to the next update.

[jdobbs]

Just as a note, If you don't get the "Corrupt Stream" error -- your encode should be fine. The error is also very unlikely to occur unless you have matrices set for some segments and not others. That's why I had so much trouble repeating it. I usually use default matrices.

[Trahald]

i use ultra low on everything but the feature.

and just to be on the same page.. i did the entire project with that setting (one click) and it was fine.. then i blanked some segments.. turned off one click and immediately hit rebuild. then i got the errors. then i unchecked them and immediately hit rebuild.. and no errors.

[Sharc]

Got a working backup now, even with all the WARNINGS:Corrupt stream detected.

I sent you the files by mail.

[jdobbs]

I'd be very careful... If you got the warnings that means there is a lot of superfluous video data included in the backup. It isn't likely to have been truly successful. You may want to wait for the new version.

[jdobbs]

i use ultra low on everything but the feature.

and just to be on the same page.. i did the entire project with that setting (one click) and it was fine.. then i blanked some segments.. turned off one click and immediately hit rebuild. then i got the errors. then i unchecked them and immediately hit rebuild.. and no errors.You didn't reencode on the second REBUILD attempt?

In your case the error message is correct then, and the source is corrupted. Any time you save changes from the Viewer/Editor, you have to ENCODE again. What DVD-RB saw in your case was segments that had large numbers of frames in them -- but had been set to be blanked by the editor.

I could prevent the editor from running after an ENCODE is complete -- but that would then prevent any changes/reencoding after the first time through. The only other choice would be to delete all the M2V files and set the progress flag to "PREPARE complete" when you save Viewer/Editor changes. I worry, though, that people won't like it very much when they can accidentally delete three hours worth of encoding.

So what you are seeing is truly a "Corrupt Stream", based upon what the INF file says the files should look like compared to what they do.

[Trahald]

ahh.. hah. well.. i guess if it accidently hinted toward the right direction then it was a good thing. but yeah.. a warning or something would be good. i assumed the encode would happen automatically if it needed to (dropping down to 2-click mode)

[jdobbs]

@SpazzHH

I left you a PM...

[jdobbs]

ahh.. hah. well.. i guess if it accidently hinted toward the right direction then it was a good thing. but yeah.. a warning or something would be good. i assumed the encode would happen automatically if it needed to (dropping down to 2-click mode)I may have to look at it and maybe reset it to reencode with an appropriate warning.

[Sharc]

If it's in the VIDEO_TS.VOB or the VTS is smaller than the minimum size setting (default of 50MB) it won't show up in the viewer/editor and is copied intact.

It's in the VIDEO_TS.VOB.
Does it mean that the content of VIDEO_TS.VOB is never visible in the Viewer/Editor, is always copied intact and hence cannot be blanked or bitrate modified? Any reason for this limitation?

[jdobbs]

Yes. The VIDEO_TS is one of the things on my "to do" list.

[Sharc]

Great. Looking forward.

[SpazzHH]

@jdobbs

Thought you might want to know that I ran into this "corrupt stream detected" again with Keeping Up With the Steins-R1(VTS 01). I'm sure it's probably in the rip(DVD Fab 3.0.3.5 and AnyDVD), but also knew you've been trying to prevent this error in RB, so thought I'd report it.

[jdobbs]

Unfortunately in most cases the "corrupt stream detected" is just what it says. The source is corrupt -- and there's not a lot DVD-RB can do about it. I have added a few routines over time to catch certain types of corrupt streams and get around them, but DVD-RB isn't the source of the problem -- it's just the messenger.

[SpazzHH]

I'll trust you totally on that. I just thought it might be something different, since just like last time, the encode goes without a hitch and the offending segment seems to play fine with MPC.

[jdobbs]

Does your log show missing frames?

[SpazzHH]

No. This is as far as it gets:

[05:41:47] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 2 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 2 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 3 VOBID 2 CELLID 3
- Rebuilding seg 4 VOBID 2 CELLID 4
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1037/10]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/2]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/0]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/1]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/5]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/3]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/4]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/8]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/6]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/7]
- WARNING: Corrupt stream detected - [1047/1049/9]
[05:42:54] 00051 00005 -- error attempting to write NAVPACK.
Aborted.

[jdobbs]

I'll see if I can find that disc and give it a test run.

Looking at your error message -- it appears your input M2V file for a segment has more frames than the oriignal -- something has definitely gone wrong. The one time I've seen that happen before the original stream was corrupt (with a group of illegal picture start codes).

[jdobbs]

I'm really confused by your report. Have you done any preprocessing? You're using DVD-RB Pro, right?

I just looked at that disc, and VTS_01/VOBID 2 is unreferenced and is not processed by DVD-RB Pro (it was probably garbage as a part of some protection mechanism on the original). The IFO doesn't have any reference to a VOBID 02 or any of its CELLIDs.

You mentioned that you ran it with AnyDVD? Because that's what I used to rip it also. I'll try DVDFab now.

[Rippraff]

You're using DVD-RB Pro, right?
Yes, he is (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=884310#post884310). :)

You mentioned that you ran it with AnyDVD? Because that's what I used to rip it also. I'll try DVDFab now.
Maybe try RipIt4Me too.

Cu Rippraff

[jdobbs]

I know he's a VIP user, but I was still wondering how he got that result with Pro. That's what's confusing. How can you get an error on a cell that is ignored? I just ran that disc and the cell is (as it should be) ignored.

The only thing I can think is that possibly DVDFab renumbered the VOBIDs (which is sometimes does)...

[jdobbs]

Yep. DVDFab Decrypter has renumbered the VOBIDs... I'll see what happens when I try to run DVD-RB against the DVDFab rip.

[jdobbs]

Well, I just ran that disc ("Keeping Up With The Steins", R1) and it finished REBUILD without error. So I have to come to the conclusion that it was a bad rip.

My guess is that DVDFab Decrypter makes the assumption that any/all errors received when reading from a disc is copy protection. The problem with that is that occasionally you get a read error because of a small smudge on the disc -- so in most instances you just wipe the disc off, reinsert it, and it works fine the next time. But if DVDFab saw it as copy protection -- it will put a null or padding sector in its place, even though it may fall right in the middle of a referenced stream.

I'm just guessing, of course, but the fact is that the disc worked fine in my tests using both DVDFab Decrypter v3.0.3.5 and AnyDVD v6.0.8.2.

Are you using any special settings? Movie only?

[SpazzHH]

Sorry to have even bothered you on this one, you were right about a bad rip. I just got home from work, and because of what you said this morning, I ran the ripped source through V-Dub MPEG2, and it reported 7 bad frames at the beginning of that segment. I then re-ripped without DVD Fab, and the new source passed with flying colors. It's encoding now, and I'm sure it will come out fine.

Sorry again to have taken up your time, but Thanks so much for being willing to check things out so quick.

Weird thing about the bad rip, the frames just looked like both DVD Fab and AnyDVD just gave up the ghost for awhile. You know that green blocky look of still encrypted video?

[jdobbs]

That would match the "error" scenario. You probably had a couple of sectors read as bad -- and you ended up with some orphaned frames without a reference.