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nrahim
2nd October 2006, 13:30
guys i added SeeSaw to the Avisynth FIlters edit in DVD-RB and i`m using CCE to encode and it is taking for ever... i have a very fast pc which does CCE 9passes in under 11H and now 3passes can't be done more den 0.03% in 3H... the comand line i added was

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DenoiseSharpen.dll")
import("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\scripts\SeeSaw.avs")
a= last
b=a.DenoiseSharpen()
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=3, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamplo=6, Szp=16)

steptoe
2nd October 2006, 13:52
SeeSaw along with LimitedSharpenFaster is very slow, what makes it slower still is also dependant on what additional filter you use with SeeSaw, or even filters

SeeSaw is a sharpening function with the ability to use any additional filters as part of its function, but the filter you're using with SeeSaw is also a denoiser and a sharpener, so will slow you're encodes even more

Try using RemoveDirt() and let SeeSaw do the work instead of two sharpen filters, and just increase SeeSaw sharpen function


If final quality is what you are after then speed does not become a factor



I've just done an encode that took 1317 minutes as I was using some very slow filters, but they also are capable of cleaning up very poor quality sources. So CCE running at an average normal of about 1.2 dropped to about 0.11 - 0.15 with the filters I used

Try what I do, I use TMPGenc DVD Author to edit a poor section of a DVD that might have bad scratches or poor quality, say 10 seconds, then run that through DVD-RB Pro and fiddle with filters then, which takes about 3-5 minutes again all down to what filters or functions I'm playing with, rather than wait forever for a full DVD and find it doesn't achive the results I'm trying to achieve

nrahim
2nd October 2006, 17:03
ok so removing the denoise might speed it up but doesn't SeeSaw need to be used wid a denoise?

manono
3rd October 2006, 13:59
Wanna speed up the process? Encode your very slow script to a lossless AVI codec. Then encode that manually in CCE. The time saved is dependent on the number of passes you usually run. The more passes, the greater the amount of time saved. Only the AVI creation is going to be super slow. You can't use DVD-RB for the job then.

steptoe
3rd October 2006, 18:17
Reading again about SeeSaw, its super slow as it tries to merge and filter at the same time, so I believ what he was trying to achive is the noise present in the source is hopefully cancelled out using the filter(s) of your choice, I think thats why its so slow as it has a lot of work to do

Try just using RemoveDirt() on its own and see what the result is, but again its slow as its a function and also uses filters from other packages, I've also had good results using just RemoveGrain(mode=17) or RemoveGrain(mode=19)

Also LimitedSharpenFaster is just a sharpener, but again whatever yoir source is makes teh difference. To get the best from filters you really need to tweak each filter chain for each source

Thats why I suggested just running your filters against say a 10 second clip of whatever your trying to run the filters on

wmansir
5th October 2006, 02:57
Wanna speed up the process? Encode your very slow script to a lossless AVI codec. Then encode that manually in CCE. The time saved is dependent on the number of passes you usually run. The more passes, the greater the amount of time saved. Only the AVI creation is going to be super slow. You can't use DVD-RB for the job then.

You could just edit DVD-RB's .avs scripts to open your AVI files, then let it manage the encoding.

With a multiple-file search/replace editor it wouldn't be too much work to change the Mpeg2Source(...) line to something like this:

return AVISource("c:my/avi/dir/V0200404.avi")