View Full Version : Any idea what de-interlace filter i can use for this.
Deano123
23rd September 2006, 18:32
can anyone help me and tell me what i can use to remove this jerkyness over here:
http://maxupload.com/img/56D990CF (http://maxupload.com)
http://maxupload.com/img/0C67C445 (http://maxupload.com)
Heres a sample:
SAMPLE (http://maxupload.com/2B8B3303)
foxyshadis
23rd September 2006, 20:46
What jerkiness? Those are still images, can't get any motion out of them - but if you mean remove the blending, that could be tough. You'll have to upload an unprocesed sample of the original first so we can have an idea what's actually going wrong.
Deano123
23rd September 2006, 20:54
What jerkiness? Those are still images, can't get any motion out of them - but if you mean remove the blending, that could be tough. You'll have to upload an unprocesed sample of the original first so we can have an idea what's actually going wrong.
Its Not Ripped Yet This Is What AvsP And MeGUI Is Showing In Preview.
This Is Jus From The Script.
manono
24th September 2006, 04:48
Its Not Ripped Yet This Is What AvsP And MeGUI Is Showing In Preview.
This Is Jus From The Script.
You don't have to capitalize every word. As foxyshadis suggested, a piece of the unprocessed source (from an original vob) would be very helpful. It's hard to make suggestions based on screen caps. Indian film DVDs can be among the most difficult with which to work, as they're often so awful. PAL2NTSC blending and low bitrate CBR encoding is all too common, and from the looks of the pics you may have both problems. And deinterlacing isn't usually the answer.
Deano123
24th September 2006, 08:18
Sample added
manono
24th September 2006, 11:49
I'm not quite sure why you linked to a sample and then removed it, but the link showed up in the e-mail message I received. It's standard PAL2NTSC with ghosting/blended fields. RePAL or Restore24 can make it progressive again. I prefer the RePAL filter, if only because it's easier to set up.
I can't swear to it, but there are some things about that vob that lead me to conclude it's already been reencoded once.
Deano123
24th September 2006, 12:20
I'm not quite sure why you linked to a sample and then removed it, but the link showed up in the e-mail message I received. It's standard PAL2NTSC with ghosting/blended fields. RePAL or Restore24 can make it progressive again. I prefer the RePAL filter, if only because it's easier to set up.
I can't swear to it, but there are some things about that vob that lead me to conclude it's already been reencoded once.
Ahh Okay I Left It Man...
scharfis_brain
24th September 2006, 15:33
mpeg2source("C:\forum\Deano123\VTS_02_1.d2v") #,cpu=6)
crop(0,48,0,-48, align=true)
TDeint(mode=1, type=3, full=true, tryweave=true)
changefps(250)
selectevery(10,?)
addborders(0,48,0,48)
bicubicresize(width,576)
this script completely deblendes and deinterlaces that video.
it also applies a standards conversion to PAL.
the only thing you need to alter is the question mark in the selectevery line. you need to replace it with a number from 0 to 9.
your example need 8.
in concurrency to repal, it puts out true 25 fps and does blind deblending. So you need to ensure that the whole movie is free of blends.
Didée
24th September 2006, 15:46
... and still we're waiting for your automagic solution for "?". :)
(On the sources I could need it, the pattern usually changes more quickly than I can follow ...)
kle500
27th September 2006, 00:19
In addition, to another problem i have in another topic, and not wanting to open another one, i thought i would be better to continue from here, a very similar problem i usualy have.
On the sample clip that follows, it is obvious that this movie (NTSC interlaced), has been converted from a PAL interlaced matterial.
I know this cause sometimes i get the original PAL and some other times, just the NTSC DVD'S.
My target is to do a Conversion to PAL.
But if i do it as i allways do, i will get too much blending.
So, is there anything i can do in these situations?
P.S. I tried the above script from "scharfis_brain", but with no luck in my footage.
Thank's in advance
NTSC.vob (http://maxupload.com/73B57D2E)
manono
27th September 2006, 01:28
Hi-
There's nothing PAL about it. It's common NTSC hard telecine. IVTC it back to 23.976fps progressive using your favorite IVTC filter, and then convert to PAL.
kle500
27th September 2006, 09:40
Hi-
There's nothing PAL about it. It's common NTSC hard telecine. IVTC it back to 23.976fps progressive using your favorite IVTC filter, and then convert to PAL.
I am not 100% sure, but i think this video is not shot on Film.
Most of the videos i am dealing with, are (adult content) and are all shot as Interlaced (either PAL or NTSC).
But in some cases, i get the NTSC'S (DVD'S), that are converted from PAL original Dvcam's.
Other times, i get the original PAL Dvcam's that i directly work with.
But to be more sure,
bellow is another sample from another video (Shot in Brazil, using PAL camera), that has been converted to NTSC.
it is 25i->29.97i
but i will convert it again to 25i, so the blending will be too much.
Regards
Ntsc2.vob (http://www.sendspace.com/file/a0atjg)
manono
27th September 2006, 11:05
Hi-
...i think this video is not shot on Film.
You think wrong. The sample you provided can be easily IVTC'd back to 23.976fps.
The second one (NTSC2) is as you said it is; interlaced PAL->interlaced NTSC, and it's a mess.
Mug Funky
27th September 2006, 11:31
@ kle500:
i suppose you can nicely ask your suppliers to supply better video...
but sometimes you can't avoid double-converting stuff. i certainly wouldn't lose sleep over it - it's not your problem in the end. this is where motion-compensated conversions win - there's much less loss when re-converting, but obviously adult entertainment companies aren't likely to splash out on a quarter-million USD converter... hell, not even certain large independent DVD/film distributors are willing to invest that much when there's something like avisynth that's able to do it much cheaper :)
you may be consoled by the fact that most viewers wont mind.
kle500
27th September 2006, 11:33
Hi-
...i think this video is not shot on Film.
You think wrong. The sample you provided can be easily IVTC'd back to 23.976fps.
The second one (NTSC2) is as you said it is; interlaced PAL->interlaced NTSC, and it's a mess.
Possibly you are right for the first video, as i never had an original Dvcam from that company before.
For the first video, i proceed wrong. (i only do a standards conversion without knowing that i can IVTC it).
From the sample you have, can you suggest some script for IVTC and then to 25i ?
But afterwards, how can i maintain the audio in synth?
On the second clip (Ntsc2), is there anything i can do?
Regards
manono
27th September 2006, 12:26
Hi-
The easiest way, maybe, for the first one, would be first to IVTC:
Telecide().Decimate()#or
#TFM().TDecimate()#Followed by a PAL resize:
Lanczos4Resize(720,576)#you can discuss with scharfi about the exact resize :)
Encode for PAL resolution but NTSC 23.976fps progressive framerate. When done, apply DGPulldown for 23.976->25.000
That way you can use the original untouched audio. And read the manuals for tweaks and fine tuning.
The second one? No, I have nothing intelligent to say about that one. I delete that kind from my hard drive.
kle500
27th September 2006, 12:51
@ kle500:
but obviously adult entertainment companies aren't likely to splash out on a quarter-million USD converter... hell, not even certain large independent DVD/film distributors are willing to invest that much when there's something like avisynth that's able to do it much cheaper :)
you may be consoled by the fact that most viewers wont mind.
You are right in all the above.
Also, only in my eyes there is problem.
In all the videos that i have done, none has noticed some problem (but i have seen many problems).
The second one? No, I have nothing intelligent to say about that one. I delete that kind from my hard drive.
So i will proceed as i allways do in such materials.
Simple script from NTSC-PAL.
Thank you guys.
P.S. @ manono
I will test the IVTC and post any questions
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