HELP! 33GB MPEG2 file needs editing!!!

[Panda]

Ok, so I am a complete N00B -
I left a capture running for 11 hours and now I have a 33GB file i need to edit.
I have Pinnacle Studio 8 (current version) and it only loads about half the file (I do not know where the other half goes....)
So I figgure if I can cut the file in half, I will be a happy camper!

Here is the catch - I got no money to spend on the project - so FREE tool (that WORKS and does not put a darn watermark on the output) is what I am looking for. I have tried the Free or Trial version of a handfull of tools, and the only one that worked as prescribed was a "trial version" that runs $40 to register and only outputs a two minute clip.

Suggestions?

[Sirber]

Dvd2avi?

[setarip_old]

Hi!

You might try "MPEG2Cut.exe"...

[Panda]

Hi!

You might try "MPEG2Cut.exe"...

Nope - the file is too big for MPEG2cut. :(

[Panda]

Dvd2avi?

I do not have a DVD as the source. I have a WHOPPER of a 33 GB file.
If anyone wants it to play with - i can put it on my FTP server.

(you can always make your own... just capture 11+ hrs of TV in a Hi-qualtiy MPEG-2 format)

So far I have tried:
AVI-MPEG Splitter - so far the best, but you have to buy it - and I do not have $40 to allocate to this project
Video Splitter
Ultra Video Splitter
AVS Media - I want to cut it up, not so much convert it.
SplitMovie
EZSplitter

[ChronoCross]

It's all about what you want to do. do you want to cut it, merge it and then recode it? Seems a little ridiculous to have a 33Gb file on your HDD

[Guest]

See Stream Cutter on this page:

http://www.elecard.com/download/index.php

[foxyshadis]

If it's an mpeg you should be able to use filesystem tools to cut out, say, 3 gig segments at a time. Just be sure to include some overlap since you'll be cutting into the middle of frames and gops.

Edit: But if Elecard's tool works it's 10x better.

[Panda]

It's all about what you want to do. do you want to cut it, merge it and then recode it? Seems a little ridiculous to have a 33Gb file on your HDD

HAHAHA! I give you +1 for stating the obvious ;)

I need to split it into smaller, more managageable files. then I can edit it (cut commercials mainly) and regurgitate it to DVD

I have Pinnacle Studio 8 (and it DOES NOT CRASH!!!) but it only sees about the first 5 hours of the MPEG. So, I hypothesize that if I split it out to a few 5GB to 8Gb files (once again - I prefer not to re-encode it to a lower bitrate) i can do the edits and get done with my project.

[Panda]

See Stream Cutter on this page:

http://www.elecard.com/download/index.php

Nope - StreamCutter will just cut it (cropping) - unless I am missing something...

I need the whole video - just broken up from 1 (stupidly large) 33GB file into 6 5GB files.

[ChronoCross]

hmm I totally said that wrong. I meant to ask you if you were going to edit it in one go. because if you wanted you could use AVS to edit it if your simply trying to cut out commercials. trim() works well and then you use that and combine them back using avisynth manual you could script it out into one thing. Then you could recode the entire file without commericals. Or is it that you want to edit it and have it remain in MPEG?

[DarkZell666]

Wouldn't mencoder to the job ?

mencoder "sourcefile.ts" -of lavf -lavfopts format=mpg -<startswitch> <startframe> -<endswitch> <endframe> -o "part<x>.mpg"

startswitch and endswitch are the switches to indicate where to start and stop in the file (I can't remember them nor find them in the documentation).

This is just off the top of my head, I don't have a clue if it's possible, lol.

[AVIL]

Hi,

Perhaps if you can demux the file (dgindex, tmpgenc, bbdemux, rejig, ...) you can, after, remux with bbMPEG, but stating a max size for muxed files. bbMPEG then creates so files as is needed.

See the doom9's guide for bbMPEG:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/bbmpeg.htm

good luck

[Guest]

Nope - StreamCutter will just cut it (cropping) - unless I am missing something...

I need the whole video - just broken up from 1 (stupidly large) 33GB file into 6 5GB files. You make one cut and save for each section you want.

[Panda]

You make one cut and save for each section you want.

DOH! I had not thought of that! I will try it tonight and let you guys know!

;)

[Panda]

DOH! I had not thought of that! I will try it tonight and let you guys know!

;)

OK, I think 33 GB may be too big for StreamCutter. I was able to trim off like a 2 gb file, but then it does not seem to work. I have a sneaking suspicion that am not doing it right, any1 got a manual for it?

[DarkZell666]

OK, I think 33 GB may be too big for StreamCutter. I was able to trim off like a 2 gb file, but then it does not seem to work. I have a sneaking suspicion that am not doing it right, any1 got a manual for it?

I can't see how you could be doing something wrong, the GUI is pretty straight forward ... :)
You got it from Elecard's site right ? here (http://www.elecard.com/ftp/pub/StudentWork/Stream_Cutter.zip)

[Panda]

I can't see how you could be doing something wrong, the GUI is pretty straight forward ... :)
You got it from Elecard's site right ? here (http://www.elecard.com/ftp/pub/StudentWork/Stream_Cutter.zip)

Ya, I can crop about a 2GB file, and it works great! Then if I specify a start point slightly before where the other file ends (like 2047000, the other file ends at 2048000) and end at say 3000000, it is like it does not even read the source file and produces the second file with 0 length.

I am currently using Pinnacle Studio 8 (it came with my AIW 9600) to create smaller mpegs from the larger on, but it has to re-encode EVERY frame. It has taken 2 days to encode the one I am currently trimming, so you see why I would like to get a tool that would just cut the big file into smaller pieces.

[setarip_old]

From what I see in this thread, I don't think anyone has asked - Are you sure you have enough hard drive space for, perhaps, an additional 66Gb (33Gb temporary files while processing and 33Gb new files) of hard drive space? If not, that may be the reason you're unable to use some of the recommended programs successfully...

[CWR03]

I have a suggestion - ever hear of Vidomi? It can be used as an MPEG-2 cutting tool. Just set your start and end points, click Options > General options and check "Ignore all settings and use MPEG copy code," click OK, name the output and click Start. It will output a new MPEG-2 file, unrendered. It will of course only cut in on I-frames.

I've never tried it on a 33 GB file, but I've used it on a few over 10 GB.

[Panda]

From what I see in this thread, I don't think anyone has asked - Are you sure you have enough hard drive space for, perhaps, an additional 66Gb (33Gb temporary files while processing and 33Gb new files) of hard drive space? If not, that may be the reason you're unable to use some of the recommended programs successfully...

I am reading the file from a drive with about 40 GB free and outputting the files to a different drive with about 35 GB free.

You are right, I do not thing anyone has asked about free space. It is easy to overlook the simple stuff! :)

I also had to bump the Max size for my paging file to 8GB to keep Studio 8 from crashing. I think the Minimum size is around 2 GB.

[Panda]

I have a suggestion - ever hear of Vidomi? It can be used as an MPEG-2 cutting tool. Just set your start and end points, click Options > General options and check "Ignore all settings and use MPEG copy code," click OK, name the output and click Start. It will output a new MPEG-2 file, unrendered. It will of course only cut in on I-frames.

I've never tried it on a 33 GB file, but I've used it on a few over 10 GB.

I have an MPG-2 file, not an .AVI - I got no love from Vidomi :(

[CWR03]

I have an MPG-2 file, not an .AVI - I got no love from Vidomi :(
Vidomi is specifically for editing MPEG-2 files - if it won't work on yours it may be too big to import. What did it do when you tried?

[Jay Bee]

Just to throw in another software suggestion: VideoReDo (http://www.videoredo.com/).

[Jekill]

You could try

Mpeg-VCR, trial version. Is solid and stable.

Cuttermaran, not so stable but you could try it.

Hi

[ocular]

Interesting problem, You have an unusual HDTV capture card, in that it captures HD Mpeg2 but doesn't automatically split the files.

I have a medion HD/SD TV capture card and automatically splits the files to 4GB. I thought that capturing the HD TV signal would be best after all it follows the digital image principle - capture in highest resolution and go from there. However editing and encoding into DVD compliant mpeg2 has not been straight forward.

Reading this forum and others it would seem that HDTV output is non standardised. Some produce a ts file and others mpeg2.

Ulead VideoStudio 10 has made it much easier as it does handle HD mpeg files ( such output from Sony HDR HCR3 Cam Corder).

However it probably doesn't handle 33GB files. I captured the recent AFL grand final in HDTV. 2 hrs 50 mins turned into 19GB segmented into 4GB files. Bit rate was 12800 kbps, 1440x 1088, 16:9 and Field order was upper frame first. Ulead VideosStudio handled the editing of this mpeg2 well. (I noticed the PowerDVD 6 would play it , but couldn't use the pause button or the slider with this type of mpeg2) Once I edited out the commercials, I decided to put the clips together into one mpeg2 file to store for re encoding later, but Ulead VideoStudio crashs when the file gets to 14GB.

Unfortunately I can't offer a solution to your dilema. Maybe you could find a transcoder that could handle your 33GB file, once you transcode the whole file into DVD compliant mpeg, some of the other file splitters may work. Media coder is open source and has a helpful community, maybe woth a look.

http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/

[drcl]

what are you planning to do with the edited file(s)?

[laura_lee]

My God!!
30G file!! You tried to Edit.

I can not offer any help,just wish you good luck and try google search for free software.

And I want to say, you have a power & incredible HDTV.