View Full Version : teach me DIV X!!!
johnhamler1
14th September 2006, 20:57
is there a way to learn how to make a div x...with exemples, where to get softwares...
a website?
I am a newbee, I know!
vlada
14th September 2006, 21:37
Start here (http://www.doom9.org/divx-encoding.htm)
Your_Idol
15th September 2006, 09:06
That is the guide i used to learn divx but it only covers the stuff relating to Gordian knot. Very often you need to use the programs separately. I found it very hard to find info on divx, virtualdubmod, besweet, avisynth, dvddecrypter and dgindex all in one place. I found it very hard to navigate around the doom9 web site so I spent months googling. I never found a very good guide so I’m thinking about making one myself but I’m not keen to start because it will take a long time. I can do it a-bit-at-a-time here, if you want.
What are you leaning divx for, DVD, Tv, Camcorder….? They will all need different guides.
jggimi
15th September 2006, 16:58
John:
1. The codec is a single word, with upper-case letters on the front and back: viz: "DivX"
2. The folks at DivX, Inc. wrote a terrific User Guide a couple of years ago, describing in detail every option in the codec, with some terrific examples of how they work. It is easy to read and understand, and not only covers DivX, but general MPEG and MPEG-4 ASP technologies, and would be helpful for XviD and other codecs, too. It is available in English, German, French, and Japanese: http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/codec/guides/
Blue_MiSfit
16th September 2006, 07:25
Roger that.
Try AutoGK if you don't want to dive in headfirst.
If you're the adventurous type, you will need to learn how to decrypt DVDs, demux and index VOBs, and decode/frameserve the MPEG-2 video into an encoder with AviSynth. THEN you get to learn about codec configuration :D
~MiSfit
johnhamler1
19th September 2006, 21:26
thanks a lot for the link...i am on this video things for over 1 year, and I am still struggling(who is not anyway?)
i know to do rip, dvd compression,dvd lab pro,dvd rebuilder, but with divx, i dont like to use these divx doctors and fair use wizzard...I want something more manual,more step by step.
so i guess I should study virtual dub...and later the filters...
i guess one good encoder is divX 6?but expired after 6 months. does it work on any divx stand alone DVD player?
well, i am interest to rip my dvd and make my divx with 5:1 sound...and have 3-6 movies on a dvd blank media.
I have seen the H264 decoder is not working on div x stand alone player...
Blue_MiSfit
20th September 2006, 00:51
I'd reccommend 1 of 2 things
1) The good old fashioned "pro" way - XviD with VirtualDub. XviD is basically a free, faster, better DivX :), though you can use DivX in vdub if you want.
2) The new "pro" way - MeGUI powering x264 or xvid_encraw (like a much better, cleaner, up to date Gordian Knot). This has the advantage of automating audio encoding and muxing.
Which one of these I would reccommend sort of depends on the kinds of backups you do. If you target smaller bitrates, I would say it's best to go with MeGUI, as its automated audio encoding makes life easy when you aren't keeping the AC3 track(s). Not to say that everything doesn't work well through MeGUI - it does!
If you only care about high bitrate, I would reccommend using XviD and Virtual Dub. The procedures for maximum quality backups are well documented and understood in this workflow. XviD retains more information than x264 IMO, and using it through VirtualDub is very standard. It's also really logical.
1) make d2v / ac3 with dgIndex
2) make avisynth script with textpad or notepad
3) drop into virtual dub
4) setup first and second passes
5) encode and mux with mmg or avimux
MeGUI ties all these functions together in a unified GUI (complete with automated adaptive deinterlacing, which is AWESOME if you ever work with interlaced sources), and uses command line encoders as opposed to (some would argue) dated VFW driven encoders. It also auto-updates everything relevant :)
From carefully re-reading your post, I see that you want to put 3-6 movies on a DVD-R, with full 5.1. You also want set top box compatibility. This rules out x264, so XviD or DivX is probably your best bet. Remember, they're both implimentations of the same standard, so if you configure them correctly, you will get output from both that works on your player. 6 movies on a DVD R(733mb average size) is pushing it if you want to keep the AC3 files, especially if your set top box doesn't support high quality features like qpel and multi bframes. If you're just watching the results on a TV it's not such a big deal though. Reducing the resolution will probably be mandatory for that size.
3 on a DVD on the other hand (1.5 gb average per movie) should produce spectacular quality. XviD with a good high bitrate matrix at full resolution + AC3 = transparency at less than half the original filesize. Gotta love MPEG-4!!!!
Sorry if I've ranted, but theres just so much good software out there... and if you know how to use it, it's SO MUCH BETTER than commercially available packages!!!
~MiSfit
Your_Idol
21st September 2006, 11:21
wow
that was a great post
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