VOB files that aren't exactly VOB??? -MegaManX8

[Zhelkus]

I'm trying to convert a collection of game videos and I stumbled upon a WSM video file in MegaMan X8 for the PC. I looked it up and easily fixed it by changing the extension to VOB because in the forum I found it said that these WSM files were simply renamed VOBs. In part I thought it was true since it played nicely in VLC but it didn't play in Media Player Classic in spite of having the CCCP installed.

What I want is to re-encode these videos but I can't do that for the moment because I can only play them in VLC... and VLC doesn't have any writing capabilities. I'm sure there's something wrong with these files because I can open any other VOBs in MPC and these particular unreadables are my only trouble. I even tried opening them in WinDVD with no luck.

I uploaded a sample of one of the videos. It plays ok in VLC. Maybe somebody could point me out how to fix it, either by installing a new codec or changing something in the ffdshow library. Thanks in advance.

http://rapidshare.de/files/32221773/ED_AX.vob --2MB

[hrlslcbr]

Downloaded it and played perfectly on MPC...
MPC shows it's using an MPEG-1 decoder, so you shouldn't have any problems.
Don't know what could be the problem.

[setarip_old]

Hi!

Load the file into VLC and (if I remember correctly) from the "View" dropdown menu, select "Stream and Media Info". Post a screengrab of that information here...

[Zhelkus]

Could I be missing an mpeg1 codec that allows me to view the file? Or could it be that the CCCP is somehow preventing MPC to use the decoder?

Here's the stream info:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/chaosdelirium/ClipboardImage.gif

[setarip_old]

It appears to be an ordinary MPEG-1 file.

Try changing the extension to ".MPG"...

[Zhelkus]

I think there's some improvement... now it can play perfectly in MPC (the one bundled with the CCCP)... but it still won't play in the mplayer2 with avisynth... which is the reason I needed help in the first place :'(

This is what I get (the typical no codec to use screen):
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/chaosdelirium/mmx8_vobproblem.gif

[setarip_old]

What does AVISynth have to do with playing a video in good ol' Windows Media Player?

[Zhelkus]

What does AVISynth have to do with playing a video in good ol' Windows Media Player?
To convert it in MeGUI :D Gotta make it work in avisynth first.

EDIT: I DID IT!!!! I FINALLY DID IT!!! I exported the M1V track through the DSM converter in MPC :D ......

EDIT2: How can I export the audio track?? PLZ!!! I'm so close!!!

[setarip_old]

You can use "TMPGEnc" to demultiplex the audiostream, as follows:

TMPGEnc>>File>>MPEGTools>>Demultiplex

[hrlslcbr]

Can't DGIndex demux MPEG-1 files? I don't remember if it does, but if it can, you can demux both the video and audio at once.

[foxyshadis]

Yes, it can; in fact I use it more often for that than for mpeg-2. The only difference is it's always progressive, and the files are .m1v and .mpa.

[Zhelkus]

You can use "TMPGEnc" to demultiplex the audiostream, as follows:

TMPGEnc>>File>>MPEGTools>>Demultiplex
It won't detect the audio stream(s).

Can't DGIndex demux MPEG-1 files? I don't remember if it does, but if it can, you can demux both the video and audio at once.
It worked!!! TYSVM!!! :D :D

Here's a freebie: http://rapidshare.de/files/32327663/caplogo2.mp4 --1.5MB

THX a lot guys :D

[setarip_old]

It won't detect the audio stream(s).There is no reason that TMPGEnc should be unable to detect the audiostream of an MPEG-1 file.

What version of TMPGEnc (NOT TMPGEnc DVD Author) were you using?

[Zhelkus]

There is no reason that TMPGEnc should be unable to detect the audiostream of an MPEG-1 file.

What version of TMPGEnc (NOT TMPGEnc DVD Author) were you using?
I think it's the 2005 suite version or something like that... it's the one with the most seeds on Demonoid(although not using the local tracker):P

I sincerely don't know what the problem was:( I used the DSM converter in MPC and it only detected the video stream... I also used TMPGEnc MPEG Tool but it wouldn't detect the audio track either... luckily DGIndex found it and extracted it successfully.

The track was an MPEG1 Layer2 audio stream, 192kbps 48kHz. If you don't believe me then try it out with the sample I offered in the first post through rapidshare.

I honestly don't know what the deal was with MegaMan X8's MPGs or VOBs or whatever they were. In the end, I successfully extracted the audio and video allowing me to convert them to h.264 and AAC.

Thx again guys.:)

EDIT: I need help locating the english tracks.... when I play the game the English track is played but when I play the file from outside the game, the only track available is the jap track. I don't know where it is, if it's within the WSM container or a separate file elsewhere. Any help on this matter would be VERY appreciated. :(

[hrlslcbr]

The files might have more than one audio track. You can select what track you want to demux using DGIndex.

[Zhelkus]

The files might have more than one audio track. You can select what track you want to demux using DGIndex.
the only track available is the jap track
That includes demuxing in DGIndex... this one's a real stumper...

Is there any tool that'll show what files are being used from the hard drive when a program runs?? Right now I'm opening every type of file in the installation folder with MPC to see if there's any MPEG audio embedded there... found some weird 32 kHz audio sounds.... but not the alternate english tracks...:(

[hrlslcbr]

...the only track available is the jap track...
:o Sorry. :D

[setarip_old]

@ZhelkusVLC doesn't have any writing capabilitiesThis is incorrect. Load your file into VLC and select "Wizard" from the "File" dropdown menu - and make the required selections to convert the video to MPEG format and convert the audio to MPEg format - and then choose to save it as an MPEG-1 file.

I just downloaded the file from the link you posted in your initial post - and it took no more than 10 seconds to convert the pseudo-.VOB "WSM" file to a perfect MPEG-1 file...

[Zhelkus]

I just downloaded the file from the link you posted in your initial post - and it took no more than 10 seconds to convert the pseudo-.VOB "WSM" file to a perfect MPEG-1 file...
Aw dang... it would've saved me a significant amount of time if this had been told to me earlier. But thx anyway :D In post#12 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=872972#post872972) I've already uploaded a RapidShare link to an extra file that I've already encoded with X264 and AAC. What do you guys think about it?

I've successfully converted every VOB into MP4. However, these VOB files only have the Japanese audio tracks, the English tracks don't seem to be included in these containers. I'm currently having trouble locating the English tracks within the installation directory. I know there's no mundane chance somebody here has this game, but if anybody can help me out with this last task, I'd be eternally grateful.

I've already sent Capcom support an email requesting some assisstance. Of course, I don't know what the odds are of getting help from over there, but at least I'm throwing all my cards.

[setarip_old]

However, these VOB files only have the Japanese audio tracks, the English tracks don't seem to be included in these containers.Although it's certainly possible, it's hard to believe the English audio is not in the same file...

[hrlslcbr]

I opened the first file you posted and there was just one audio stream. See if you can find other audio files that might contain the english tracks, or if one channel on the stereo file is dedicated to japanese and the other to english (I doubt it though...).

[hrlslcbr]

Sorry....double post...

[Zhelkus]

Although it's certainly possible, it's hard to believe the English audio is not in the same file...
You downloaded the WSM file I uploaded, right? It only showed one track, didn't it? The moaning character's voice was too girly thus it was the Japanese audio track. VLC also detects only one audio track.

I've prepared a RAR that contains the VOB and a speaker recording of what would be the supposed English track: http://rapidshare.de/files/32561903/caplogo_VOB.rar

Unless it's missing a header, or something of the like, the second audio track isn't in the VOB file.

I opened the first file you posted and there was just one audio stream. See if you can find other audio files that might contain the english tracks, or if one channel on the stereo file is dedicated to japanese and the other to english (I doubt it though...).
If the languages were arranged by channel, then you'd be listening to both languages simultaneously with the file I submitted, right? There are also a lot of OGGs but I've already listened to all of them and they're in-game sounds and background music, not the audio tracks I'm looking for. There are approximately 4k files in the installation directory excluding the irrevelant OGGs and I've already gone through the 200 largest ones with MPC without luck.

I'm in a real jam here. :p

[setarip_old]

You downloaded the WSM file I uploaded, right? It only showed one track, didn't it? The moaning character's voice was too girly thus it was the Japanese audio track. VLC also detects only one audio track.(I'm not at all familiar with your source material)

1) Although you may be right, the pitch of a moan in a minscule clip doesn't necessarily prove your point

2) Have you tried using VLC to convert a more substantial WSM ".VOB", that definitely contains English audio when played?

3) How do you select the language for playback?

**EDIT** I just listened to both files in your .RAR - They certainly sound different from each other. To me, neither sounds even vaguely like English

[Zhelkus]

1) Although you may be right, the pitch of a moan in a minscule clip doesn't necessarily prove your point
If you're familiar with animes you'll see that most of the time this is true. And secondly, I'm already familiar enough with the English actors voices to recognize the difference.:D

2) Have you tried using VLC to convert a more substantial WSM ".VOB"
Every WSM shows only one track. I only uploaded the smaller files to save time uploading. The biggest WSM was something like 92.5MB but I'm not crazy enough to upload something so large.

that definitely contains English audio when played?
Each WSM is exactly the same. Only the jap track is selectable, regardless of the filesize. That's my jam.:(

3) How do you select the language for playback?
I assume you're referring to the game. At the installation you can choose the language you want. And when the game runs for the first time you can choose if you want to have it in JAP or English a second time, just for kicks.

neither sounds even vaguely like English
Trust me that the audio file separate from the VOB was indeed English.:p

[setarip_old]

Originally Posted by setarip_old
2) Have you tried using VLC to convert a more substantial WSM ".VOB"

Every WSM shows only one track. I only uploaded the smaller files to save time uploading. The biggest WSM was something like 92.5MB but I'm not crazy enough to upload something so large.I didn't suggest that you upload any files.

I just want to know if you've tried using VLC (now that you know VLC CAN be used to convert) to convert a file.

Post back here if you track down the location of the English audio...

[Zhelkus]

I just want to know if you've tried using VLC (now that you know VLC CAN be used to convert) to convert a file.
Yes: failure.

Post back here if you track down the location of the English audio...
That's nearly sinonymous to "Thread closed". Still, will do.

[setarip_old]

That's nearly sinonymous to "Thread closed".Not at all - It's simply me suggesting that I personally have nothing further to offer or suggest...