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Episodio1
4th September 2006, 01:57
" Fox will launch the first of four Blu-ray release waves beginning November 14, which include such hits as 'Ice Age: The Meltdown,' 'Kingdom of Heaven,' 'Fantastic Four' and the recent remake of 'The Omen.' "

"Fox's first Blu-ray releases will be presented in full 1080p video, and in what may be a surprise to many, the studio has opted to go with the AVC/MPEG-4 compression codec, eschewing the so-far more popular VC-1 and MPEG-2 options. "

"The studio is also the first to publicly support the new DTS HD Lossless Master Audio format on select discs, which promises to deliver audio quality comparable to the studio master."


http://www.highdefdigest.com/pressrelease_foxbluraylaunch.html

adoniscik
4th September 2006, 18:56
"The studio is also the first to publicly support the new DTS HD Lossless Master Audio format on select discs, which promises to deliver audio quality comparable to the studio master."
If DTS HD can't capture all the information, their master must be hella good.

Episodio1
4th September 2006, 22:40
I read on that page that DTS-HD is DTS at full bitrate (1'5 Mbps).

adoniscik
4th September 2006, 22:55
This is what DTS has to say:
DTS-HD is an extension of the original DTS Coherent Acoustics format. All DTS-HD encoded content contains the original DTS 1.5 Mbps core. When played back through your existing DTS capable system, the DTS-HD extension is simply "ignored" and the DTS Core is recognized and decoded. Due to space constraints, most standard DVDs encoded DTS at only 768 kbps, or half of its' full potential. DTS-HD can contain the full DTS core*, so your receiver will play back DTS surround audio at over twice the data rate of other formats.

* In certain instances Blu-ray or HD-DVD content encoded in DTS-HD may not contain the full DTS 1.5 Mbps core. Please check content packaging and look for the DTS Encore logo, descriptor line, or audio specifications to confirm.
In other words, DTS-HD signals contain the 1.5Mbps DTS core for backward-compatibility. Very smart.

woah!
5th September 2006, 02:08
or you could get a HD-DVD player and buy a 3 month old HD-DVD movie, and play it with AVC and Dolby TrueHD 5.1 and at half the price of the BR player aswell...

Episodio1
5th September 2006, 13:32
woah! what hddvd titles in AVC ? ¬_¬

woah!
6th September 2006, 01:33
woah! what hddvd titles in AVC ? ¬_¬


all of them that have been released to date.

this is why BR at this point in time has worse image quality than HD-DVD because BR uses 25GB disc encoded with mpeg2 while HD-DVD discs are 30GB and use VC-1 encoding. now maybe BR 50GB discs with mpeg2 encoding might get to the same level of Quality, but sony cannot get them to play on the shipping samsung players as of right now heh.

so it could be that all the samsung BR players are useless junk.


(sorry i just read my post and typed AVC instead of VC-1) my fault.

Prettz
6th September 2006, 02:56
"The studio is also the first to publicly support the new DTS HD Lossless Master Audio format on select discs, which promises to deliver audio quality comparable to the studio master."

This jumped out at me when I read it. If it's lossless, how is it only "comparable" to the original master and not "identical"??? Are they taking into account some kind of horribly shitty digital audio mastering equipment to screw up the sound inbetween the original master and the digitized version when they choose that wording?

LiFe
6th September 2006, 06:39
Usual marketing goons stuffing around with the facts.

Of course, if it is identical to the master, how can they sell you an upgrade in 2 years time?

Audionut
6th September 2006, 08:30
Dolby TrueHD

Dolby® TrueHD is Dolby’s next-generation lossless technology developed for high-definition disc-based media. Dolby TrueHD delivers tantalizing sound that is bit-for-bit identical to the studio master, unlocking the true high-definition entertainment experience on next-generation discs. When coupled with high-definition video, Dolby TrueHD offers an unprecedented home theater experience that lets you enjoy sound as stunning as the high-definition picture.
Features

* 100 percent lossless coding technology.
* Up to 18 Mbps bit rate.
* Supports up to eight full-range channels of 24-bit/96 kHz audio.*
* Supported by High-Definition Media Interface (HDMI™), the new single-cable digital connection for audio and video.
* Supports extensive metadata including dialogue normalization and dynamic range control.

*Dolby TrueHD can support more than eight audio channels. HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc standards currently limit their maximum number of audio channels to eight.
Benefits

* Delivers enthralling studio-master-quality sound that unlocks the true high-definition entertainment experience on next-generation discs.
* Offers more discrete channels than ever before for impeccable surround sound.
* Compatible with the A/V receivers and home-theaters-in-a-box (HTIBs) of today and tomorrow.
* Dialogue normalization maintains the same volume level when you change to other Dolby Digital and Dolby TrueHD programming.
* Dynamic range control (Night mode) enables you to customize audio playback to reduce peak volume levels (no loud surprises) while experiencing all the details in the soundtrack, enabling late-night viewing of high-energy surround sound without disturbing others.
* Selected as the mandatory format for HD DVD and as an optional format for Blu-ray Disc.

Next-Generation High Definition Disc Players are Compatible with Current A/V Receivers

Whether you own an older audio/video (A/V) system equipped with Dolby® Digital, or a newer A/V receiver equipped with an HDMI™ connection or external line-level multichannel inputs, you are assured of a compatible, high-quality playback path.


http://www.dolby.com/consumer/technology/trueHD.html