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oddball
31st August 2006, 18:51
Is there a card I can get that A) Recieves HD signals from a satellite dish. B) Decodes both MPEG2 and x264 .TS streams purely in hardware and is able to output to any video cards or has the connections to connect to a HDTV and B) is able to capture direct to hard disk?

I find the idea of a HD box under the TV so limiting unles I can rip from it to PC via ethernet/usb/firewire etc.

bob0r
1st September 2006, 01:40
Is there a card I can get that A) Recieves HD signals from a satellite dish. B) Decodes both MPEG2 and x264 .TS streams purely in hardware and is able to output to any video cards or has the connections to connect to a HDTV and B) is able to capture direct to hard disk?

I find the idea of a HD box under the TV so limiting unles I can rip from it to PC via ethernet/usb/firewire etc.

Not hardware but software:
http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/p145_T
Hardware has still to come.

x264 .ts.... H.264 .ts you mean.

SeeMoreDigital
1st September 2006, 09:07
Does anybody know if this DVB-S2 PCI card (http://www.knc1.com/d/produkte/digital_dvb_s2_plus.htm) ever made it to launch?

EDIT: And then there's this DVB-S2 PCI card (http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/language/en/info/p145_Technotrend-S2-3200-HDTV-S2-inkl--Fernbed---WinXP-MCE-.html).

Playback is via software...

emmel
1st September 2006, 10:36
I guess the KCN card is available (you can order it from the kcn site), but it is more expensive than the competitors. Moreover, you are practically forced to use their proprietary software as none of the "usual" dvb-apps support it atm.

The TT S2-3200, on the other hand, I a very nice card supported by software like dvbv. I'm very satisfied with mine. Recommended.

Schmendrick
1st September 2006, 13:31
I am using KNCones DVB-S2-card. So far it is only of limited use for me as KNC requires a lot of requirements:
XP Professional SP2, >DirectX9.0b, at least 1 GB RAM and a dual core processor so Pentium D, Core Duo or AMD X2 with a certain minimum power. Obviously if you want to have a fluent display of an AVC/H.264-HDTV-video you have to have enough processing power. But even if you just want a time controlled recording of such a transmission without a simultaneous display a system with less computing power should be able to record such a stream. My system just has a Pentium 4 with 2.67GHz and I am not able to do a stable recording without displaying the video at the same time. The recording programme crashes after some indeterminable time, so sometime just after a few minutes some other times after 1 and 1/2 hours. KNCOne is refusing to help me as my system does not correspond to their minimum requirements even though I just want to do the recording.

As the bottom line currently I cannot recommend the card unless you have a brand new dual core system of which I have no experience. Hopefully they might come with a new software version which resolves this bug or they modify their BDA-driver for a use with this card. The BDA-driver is currently available for the standard DVB-S-cards of KNCOne so that it is possible to use third party software like DVBstreamexplorer.

oddball
1st September 2006, 13:36
I use x264 to cover all the various flavours of it ;)

Anyhow it looks like I will have to wait until someone makes a card that does hardware playback. Probably with one of the Broadcom or Sigma chips. Either that or I upgrade my entire motherboard, CPU, Memory and video card (Again).

lexor
1st September 2006, 16:51
I use x264 to cover all the various flavours of it ;)
then you should definitely say h264, since it is the general standard, and x264 is only a single implementation of it (not used by big boys of HDTV broadcasting btw, so deninitely no such thing as x264 in .ts).

emmel
1st September 2006, 20:02
Anyhow it looks like I will have to wait until someone makes a card that does hardware playback. Probably with one of the Broadcom or Sigma chips. Either that or I upgrade my entire motherboard, CPU, Memory and video card (Again).

Want to take a bet? I say there won't be such cards.

They really could be useful at the moment, but since there are not so many hdtv-programs to watch, they simply can't sell enough imho. Then, in two or three years, when there will be enough watchable dvb-s2 content to everyone, decoding h264 with cpu+gpu will be a piece of cake anyways. Perhaps I'm wrong, but my guess is that there will not be "full feature" dvb-s2 cards for h264 like there were dvb-s cards for mpeg2.

Blue_MiSfit
3rd September 2006, 05:12
look into black magic design's lineup. We are using a Multibridge, a ~1.5k card/breakout box that takes component in. Of course, you gotta be able to encode to something in real time like Sheer Video or huffyuv to actually do something with the input, but still :D

oddball
12th September 2006, 17:38
Oh well. Looks like I will have to upgrade my system to something wizz bang sooner rather than later. :P