ECL of CCE SP2

[Amnon82]

I just looked into a ECL created by CCE SP2.
Many things changed.

; CCE-SP2 Trial Version -- Encoder Control List

[item]
ve_src_roi.x=0
ve_src_roi.y=0
ve_src_roi.w=720
ve_src_roi.h=480
ve_dst_roi.x=0
ve_dst_roi.y=0
ve_dst_roi.w=720
ve_dst_roi.h=480
vid_file0=G:\MOVIE\XviD\AQ3PREDICTION.mpv
vid_file1=G:\MOVIE\XviD\AQ3PREDICTION.mpv
aud_file=G:\MOVIE\XviD\AQ3PREDICTION.wav
vi_file=G:\MOVIE\XviD\AQ3PREDICTION.vaf
i32_file=G:\MOVIE\XviD\AQ3PREDICTION.i32
title=AQ3PREDICTION.avs
xe_ref_tc=01:00:00:00
ve_w=720
ve_h=480
xe_ref_frm=0
xe_drop_frame=0
xe_exec_mode=0
xe_ps_pkt_siz=2048
ve_ofs_lines=1
ve_top_first=1
ve_24p_to_60i=0
ve_exec_mode=0
ve_CBR_brate_avg_idx=15000
ve_OPV_brate_min_idx=5000
ve_OPV_brate_max_idx=10112
ve_OPV_q_factor_idx=10
ve_VBR_brate_avg_idx=15000
ve_VBR_brate_min_idx=5000
ve_VBR_brate_max_idx=22500
ve_VBR_VBR_CBR=30
ve_P_cnt=4
ve_B_cnt=2
ve_GOP_cnt=15
ve_SEQ_cnt=1
ve_last_frame_should_be_I=0
ve_SEQ_END=1
ve_ASR=2
ve_DVD=0
ve_q_scale_type=1
ve_adjust_q_matrix=1
ve_closed_GOP_all=0
ve_fixed_GOP=0
ve_CBR_fixed_VBV_delay=0
ve_frate_idx=4
ve_rate_conv=1
ve_is_32=0
ve_i32_pulldown=0
ve_i32_pulldown_auto_rebuild=1
ve_i32_pulldown_prg_thres=80
ve_i32_pulldown_rpt_thres=90
ve_i32_pulldown_rpt_val_thres=6
ve_lum_level=0
ve_deinterlace=0
ve_interpolation=4
ve_progressive=0
ve_mirror=0
ve_mpeg1=0
ve_qmat_intra_enabled=1
ve_qmat_inter_enabled=1
ve_seq_dpy_ext_custom_config=0
ve_seq_dpy_ext_enabled=0
ve_seq_dpy_ext_video_format=2
ve_seq_dpy_ext_color_description=1
ve_seq_dpy_ext_color_primaries=6
ve_seq_dpy_ext_transfer_characteristics=6
ve_seq_dpy_ext_matrix_coefficients=6
ve_seq_dpy_ext_display_w=540
ve_seq_dpy_ext_display_h=480
ve_VBR_pass=3
ve_VBR_info_create_always=0
ve_I32_info_create_always=0
ve_USCC_room_enabled=0
ae_exec_mode=2
ae_extra_video_frames=0
ae_mpg_mode=1
ae_mpg_brate_idx=6
ae_mpg_crc=1
ae_sample_freq=48000
ae_rate_conv=1
pic0.q_char_f=0
pic0.progressive_frame=0
pic0.ALS=0
pic0.letter_box=0
pic0.h_filter=0
pic0.h_filter_idx=0
pic0.h_filter_idx2=0
pic0.h_filter_strength=0
pic0.h_filter_hpf=0
pic0.h_filter_hpf_idx=0
pic0.h_filter_hpf_idx2=0
pic0.h_filter_hpf_strength=0
pic0.v_filter=0
pic0.v_filter_val=0
pic0.no_move=0
pic0.dither=0
pic0.dither_Y_max=0
pic0.dither_C_max=0
pic0.intra_dc_precision_10_max=0
pic0.intra_dc_precision_9_max=0
pic0.force_black=0
pic0.force_monochrome=0
pic0.fill=0
pic0.fill_Y_val=0
pic0.fill_C_val=0
pic0.fill_lines_top=0
pic0.fill_lines_bottom=0
xe_file_enable=1
vi_file_enable=1
ve_i32_file_enable=0
ae_file_enable=0
pic0_name=
intra0=8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
intra1=16 16 22 24 27 29 34 37
intra2=19 22 26 27 29 34 34 38
intra3=22 22 26 27 29 34 37 40
intra4=22 26 27 29 32 35 40 48
intra5=26 27 29 32 35 40 48 58
intra6=26 27 29 34 38 46 56 69
intra7=27 29 35 38 46 56 69 83
inter0=16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
inter1=17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
inter2=18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
inter3=19 20 21 22 23 24 26 27
inter4=20 21 22 23 25 26 27 28
inter5=21 22 23 24 26 27 28 30
inter6=22 23 24 26 27 28 30 31
inter7=23 24 25 27 28 30 31 33

[file]
vid.path=G:\MOVIE\XviD\AQ3PREDICTION.avs
vid.guid={7638F668-64BC-4DE3-8C27-5336A741F0EF}
vid.guid2={327C962F-37A6-4A98-9289-AA7A970A24E2}
vid.duration=300000/2997
vid.frate=2997/125
vid.width=720
vid.step=1440
vid.height=480
vid.fcc0=YUY2
vid.fcc1=YUY2
vid.origin=2
vid.format=2
vid.offset=0
vid.in_p=0
vid.out_p=12012012
aud.samples_per_sec=0
aud.channels=0
aud.length=0
aud.offset=0
aud.in_p=0
aud.out_p=0
nosync=0

Here an old ECL of CCE 2.70

; CCE SP Trial Version -- Encoder Control List

[item]
title=AutoQ3-Prediction
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
i32_out=0
i32_pulldown_prg_thres=80
i32_pulldown_rpt_val_thres=6
aud_out=0
aud_mode=0
vid_file0=G:\MOVIE\XviD\AQ3_NOAUDIO.m2v
vid_file1=G:\MOVIE\XviD\AQ3_NOAUDIO.m2v
vaf_file=G:\MOVIE\XviD\AQ3_NOAUDIO.vaf
i32_file=C:\cce.i32
aud_file=C:\cce.mpa
file_focused=0
xe_exec_mode=0
ve_exec_mode=0
ve_mpeg1=0
packet_size=2048
ref_tc=16777216
ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
frame_rate_idx=1
cbr_brate=6000
opv_q_factor=1
opv_brate_min=6000
opv_brate_max=8800
vbr_brate_avg=8800
vbr_brate_min=6000
vbr_brate_max=8800
vbr_bias=30
vbr_pass=3
create_new_vaf=1
seq_endcode=1
dvd=0
resize=0
interpolation=4
width=720
height=480
half_width=0
half_height=0
uscc=0
top_first=1
offset_line=
lum_level=0
deinterlace=0
blanking=0
blank_top=0
blank_left=0
blank_right=0
blank_bottom=0
aspect_ratio=2
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=
fix_gop_length=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
adjust_q_matrix=1
last_frame_should_be_I=0
24p_to_60i=1
411_to_422=0
pulldown_detect=1
pulldown_auto_rebuild=0
letter_box=0
panscan=0
qmat_idx=-1
q_scale_type=1
qmat_name=Matrix_by_AutoQ3
qmat=
8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
16 16 22 24 27 29 34 35
19 22 26 27 29 34 35 38
22 22 26 27 29 34 35 40
22 26 27 29 32 35 40 48
26 27 29 32 35 40 48 50
26 27 29 35 40 48 50 60
27 29 35 40 48 50 60 62
16 20 24 28 32 36 40 44
20 24 28 32 36 40 44 48
24 28 32 36 40 44 48 52
28 32 36 40 44 48 52 56
32 36 40 44 48 52 56 58
36 40 44 48 52 56 58 60
40 44 48 52 56 58 60 62
44 48 52 56 58 60 62 62
samples_per_sec=48000
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
aud_sync=0
pict_name=Matrix_by_AutoQ3
q_char_f=30
progressive=1
alternate_scan=0
letter_box=0
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=10
h_filter_strength=100
h_filter_idx2=0
h_filter_hpf=0
h_filter_hpf_idx=5
h_filter_hpf_strength=25
h_filter_hpf_idx2=0
v_filter=0
v_filter_val=4
no_move=0
dither=0
dither_Y_max=8
dither_C_max=4
intra_dc_precision_9_max=113
intra_dc_precision_10_max=113
i32_32=0
force_black=0
force_monochrome=0
fill=0
fill_Y_val=16
fill_C_val=128
fill_lines_top=30
fill_lines_bottom=30

[file]
name=C:\Programme\AutoQ3\temp\AQ3PREDICTION.avs
stream_no=0
frame_first=0
frame_last=2400
encode_first=0
encode_last=2400


There is lot of work to do to add CCE SP2 support to AQ3.
Can somebody tell me what the heck this is:

vid.guid={7638F668-64BC-4DE3-8C27-5336A741F0EF}
vid.guid2={327C962F-37A6-4A98-9289-AA7A970A24E2}

[Trahald]

they are windows GUID format and have some relation to wether its and avi or a .avs. (and maybe others but i didnt look further)
if its a .avs use
"vid.guid={7638F668-64BC-4DE3-8C27-5336A741F0EF}";
if its a .avi use
"vid.guid={C4A71434-A6B2-4786-A440-C0702369916A}";
there is a second line sometimes vid.guid2 but it doesnt seem necesary.. the vid.guid line is very important. if you dont have the vid.guid at or, or an incorrect one it will not encode.

the stuff in teh [FILE] section is sorta crazy too.. the frames are not the actual amount of frames.. look at the code in the writeECL() section of batchccews 0917 beta 5 source code (on sourceforge.net) to see how the frames, etc are figured out. it also seems the standard cce matrices (ultralow, standard, cg etc) have to be written to the ecl.. they are no longer 'indexed' by number. it was a bit of work to get batchccews to make a working sp2 .ecl

[Amnon82]

Thats realy a pitty. So it will take a while to get it done. Why did they do it at all? Seems they want to code our programs as addons for it directly ;)

[rahzel]

is there ANY advantage to CCE SP2 over CCE SP?

i just tried using CCE SP2 trial with DVD-RB, and the output was EXACTLY the same as CCE SP 2.70.2.10.

using CCE-SP2 alone for encoding xvid's, i did notice a slightly different interface, and a few other options (like sync audio with video, and framerate conversion).

[Mug Funky]

the output was EXACTLY the same as CCE SP 2.70.2.10.

you mean binary identical?

could you do me a favour and, in a command line window type:

fc "CCE_SP1_file.m2v" "CCE_SP2_file.m2v"

and see if any differences are found?


on the ecl format: is it like SP 2.xx in that you don't have to specify things like framecount and rate - it'll figure them out when it loads?

i have a big set of batch files that generate ecl files for old CCE, and i'd like to know if it's worth reverse engineering the new ecl format and modifying the batches to work with it.

[rahzel]

i meant i compared screenshots from both outputs, and both were exactly the same. i haven't tried encoding, say, an xvid to MPEG2 and compared results. but through DVD-RB, CCE-SP2 had the exact same output.

sorry, i already uninstalled it. i only had the trial version and as you probably know, it is free, so you can test it for yourself.