Quick DVD/CD copy program Question.

[joelancer]

IF you just wont to answer the question read the bottom line.
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ok... i will be doing a clean format on a comp soon.

i havnt used any Disk Copy programs in while.. and im going to keep the Install clean, so im only installing neccessary programs.

I will install Nero Corp or Ultra(watever its called), for general Burning copying... But i dont remember, Nero Cant make Bin/Cue ISO format Can it?

If Nero Cant i will install 1 other Disk/Burning program that can create Bin/Cue ISO's.... Cuase i will Definatly be Copying to HDD in that format, for example things like playstation/console emulation.

If Nero Cant Creat Bin/Cue's, of if its not the prefered Program to do that...
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WHAT IS THE BEST PROGRAM FOR CREATING BIN/CUE ISO's? thx.

[buzzqw]

if you need only to

1) burn iso
2) burn data/folder
3) create iso (from folder/files or unprotected dvd)

you don't need a the full nero, just IMGburn v2 !!! it's free, fast and lot furius ! :)

www.imgburn.com

BHH

[joelancer]

Np about whatever program is the best for the task in question... im not internet illiterate, i will have access to any of them retail or not.

Incase i wasnt specific enough... I know Nero can create .nrg/.ISO... i just dont remember if it can create .Bin/.Cue, if i remember right, i dont think it does, i may be wrong though.

anyway, my main consern is finding the best program for creating Bin/Cue formats.

so.. buzzqw, does ImgBurn creat Bin/cue? or just .ISO?

[foxyshadis]

It [Nero] burns everything, but only rips into .nrg. So imgtool (or yourfavoritetool) is the way to go. You don't have nero now to test with?

[buzzqw]

imgburn create only iso

BHH

[joelancer]

no, i do not have these programs installed to test with.

also i figured theres someone else out here with more expience then me, who could advize. (i have used misc programs, but not extensivly at all.)

CloneCD
Alcohol120%
WinISO

I dont remember, but some of those i think allow rippin to .Bin/cue.... witch is the best though, and do you have recomendations for the spacific task in question?

[dani82]

food for thought:

a couple of weeks ago, i was rebuilding some ps2 games, and by default the images came out cue/bin format (*.iso if need be), for some reason, by using the cue/bin format, the overall size was increase by 15%

[foxyshadis]

.iso is kind of a catchall name for every iso format (so is bin really), but usually when you rip to it it means user-mode disc image with a certain header. The user-mode is the dangerous part! Lots of PSX games use raw-mode to increase their space, if you don't rip to it you're gambling that it won't just crash on you all corrupted.

I use this spiffy utility (http://www.neillcorlett.com/ecm/) to optimally compress all games, and a little batch file I made that compresses or decompresses when you drag a file onto it. Then you can rar it for much more savings than without. An extra step to play, but at 20-100M a disc saved, it's worth it.


@echo off
set path=%path%;%~dp0%\ecm

if ''=='%1' goto end

if '.ecm'=='%~x1' goto decode

:encode
ecm %1 "%~dpnx1.ecm"
pause
goto end

:decode
unecm %1 "%~dpn1"
goto end

:end
The bolded part is where you change the path to the program, I just keep it in a subfolder called ecm.

[joelancer]

dani82 - i realize the possible file size differences between different formats... someone correct me if im wrong though - but isnt Bin/Cue the superior format?

foxyshadis - thx for the info, cause for my own stuff, i only rip. not burn. and store on HDD.... also, isnt 7zip better then winRAR?

[foxyshadis]

Well, 7zip usually compresses more but much slower than winrar, but for free; winrk compresses more and faster, for the same price, so it's the only one I'd call better all-around. (Plus its interface is nicer.)

But I did a lot of tests and rar always came out ahead of 7z, rk, zip, and some random tests like ace/lha, when using ecm; however, 7z and rk usually came out ahead without it. I can't say why, it boggles the mind.

[joelancer]

yea i wasnt refering to speed at all... the higher compression you use the longer it takes to compress.

i will run tests on the Images when i get a chance in the future.. but refering to just the Size after compression.. iv always been able to make the files the smallest with 7zip, by changing its defaul settings for example one of them says =word size "something, 64 maybe" on ULtra... i change it to "256".

[dani82]

can't really say that the cue/bin format is superior to the *.iso format (for cd backup), it's just since the beginning, about most guides recommended that use of cdrwin (that's how cue/bin came about) for making cd-r copies, so it pretty much stuck