View Full Version : ImgBurn v2.0.0.0 Released!
LIGHTNING UK!
5th August 2006, 10:57
Finally it's here! :D
Changelog / download can be found on the website.
http://www.imgburn.com/
Should you have any problems, please report them in the forum.
Thanks for listening ;)
bourtzovlakas
5th August 2006, 12:22
:thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
blutach
5th August 2006, 12:26
Great work!!!
Regards
buzzqw
5th August 2006, 13:47
Only one word: thanks: !!!
BHH
r0lZ
5th August 2006, 14:05
Fantastic, LUK!
One integrated app to burn DL DVDs from DVD-Video files, with a correct layer break, it's wonderful. :) No need to go through PgcEdit and mkisofs any more! :( ;)
LIGHTNING UK!
5th August 2006, 14:13
Sorry for that r0lZ, I wish there was a way for it not to end like that! I don't like stepping on other peoples toes but there really wasn't any way around it!
You've done a fab job with your burning stuff but ImgBurn really needed that 'Build' mode. No hard feelings I hope ;)
sillKotscha
5th August 2006, 14:16
the BUILD mode is just great!! no need for NERO anymore ;)
cornholio7
5th August 2006, 15:10
excellent work :thanks:
buzzqw
5th August 2006, 15:11
well ... not sure (about nero... even if i use Prassi Ones) ... Imho ImgBurn v2 do not build audio cd , from wav files.
BHH
dialysis1
5th August 2006, 15:42
r0lZ, PgcEdit is still a great and very much needed program!
LIGHTNING UK!
5th August 2006, 16:24
buzzqw, you're quite right. ImgBurn builds data ISO, not CDDA ones.
It can't burn audio discs so making it build them would be pretty pointless. It does what it does, nothing more.
buzzqw
5th August 2006, 17:40
@LU
even if can't buld audio cd Imgburn v2 (i just burned 4 dvd ,1 video dvd, 1 data dvd on fly, 2 iso dvd data (benq 1650) ) is one of greatest buring application around ! :thanks: again !!
BHH
r0lZ
5th August 2006, 18:35
No problem with me, LUK! I'm even happy. DVD burning is not particularly my cup of tea, and I can now concentrate my efforts on the VM command editing, the main purpose of PgcEdit. There is already too much stuff to maintain in PgcEdit anyway.
A good DL burning app was needed, and I'm happy it's ImgBurn the winner! Also, I'm glad to have helped a little bit in this adventure.
Thanks again, and too you too, dialysis1!
ron spencer
5th August 2006, 20:05
does this mean the cool gui of PGCEdit to choose layer break and tie in to Imgburn will end?
blutach
6th August 2006, 00:58
the BUILD mode is just great!! no need for NERO anymore ;)There never was a need for Ner0, IMHO - except as you say, it is very good on audio CDs.
@ron spencer - I don't think r0lZ will take the feature away for people who like PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) - after all, it has the ability to preview (which ImgBurn (www.imgburn.com) does not). But, I doubt there will be any more work on it, either. r0lZ will answer definitively.
Regards
setarip_old
6th August 2006, 01:35
@blutach
There is no denying that this most recent update of IMGBurn is an excellent piece of freeware.
However, when you say,There never was a need for Ner0, IMHOyou really should be specific, since your ongoing negative commentaries regarding "NERO" seem to be, in fact, limited exclusively to the DVD-Video section of the "NERO Burning ROM" part of the VERY extensive NERO "package" which, in addition to other functions (such as those of NERO Recode and NEROVision), includes the following:
http://ww2.nero.com/nero7/enu/Nero_7_Premium_New_Features.html
jinjin_jp
6th August 2006, 08:16
Thanks for the great program.
I used and confirmed no problem.
And about the feature,
Gaps are type B of http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=112527.
No gaps are kept, and the information of IFO files are modified.
It seems to be similar to Nero and ClonDVD.
Mothod of adjusting layerbreak to ECC block is (2) of http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=851894#post851894.
It adjust by starting sector of VIDEO_TS.IFO.
It seems to be similar to RecordNow and B'sRecorder, but different from PgcEdit+ImgBurn.
I can't understand about setting of build-mode, please help me.
What is "Uppercase File/Folder Names" ? What does change by whether check or not check?
Regards.
LIGHTNING UK!
6th August 2006, 10:48
Indeed, that goes inline with what I mentioned in your initial thread talking about gaps etc.
I create my own gaps where needed and modify the IFO's accordingly.
That 'uppercase file/folder names' option ensures the AUDIO_TS / VIDEO_TS folders are all uppercase (in all filesystems), and that known files (i.e. IFO/BUP/VOB) are also uppercase.
r0lZ
6th August 2006, 10:51
You should verify also the JACKET_P folder and its content. Here also the file names must be uppercase.
LIGHTNING UK!
6th August 2006, 10:57
Ok, will do.
I very rarely see that folder so pretty much just forgot about it!
Don't suppose you have examples of what the files are called in JACKET_P and AUDIO_TS folders do you?
i.e. every possible file extension from both folders (like how VIDEO_TS has IFO/BUP/VOB).
Cheers :)
jinjin_jp
6th August 2006, 11:54
@r0lZ, LIGHTNING UK!
Thanks very much for the explanation.
I understood "Uppercase File/Folder Names" is function that correct the name of VIDEO_TS folder if incorrect. And tested change name of VIDEO_TS and select, the result was folder name had been corrected.
But the result was also succeeded, even when not check "Uppercase File/Folder Names"
Where did I misunderstood ?
Regards.
LIGHTNING UK!
6th August 2006, 12:00
I guess it depends on how fussy your player is.
jinjin_jp
6th August 2006, 12:01
I tested to select various layerbreak cell.
The result is below. Even not check "Seamles", all existed layerbreak description (it seemed to be remain) has been disappeared.
It doesn't occured when select layerbreak cell as same as original.
Is it intentional feature?
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5764/060806imgburntest1dj8.th.png (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=060806imgburntest1dj8.png)
Regards.
r0lZ
6th August 2006, 12:38
For a description of the files in JACKET_P, see here (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=102533). And no, I haven't seen many examples of this yet.
LIGHTNING UK!
6th August 2006, 13:24
If you select a cell that already has SPLIP set to false (and don't have 'seamless' checked), it assumes you've just picked the original one and that nothing else really need be done.
If you pick a different cell or change to 'seamless', it will attempt to set the other 'non seamless' cells back to seamless (not knowing for sure which one is the old layerbreak, it just does them all). This is quite 'rough' and basically just looks at whether or not the previous cell has a cell command. I've not made it any more detailed than that, so it doesn't check PTS times or whatever else it could do.
9 times out of 10 I'd expect people to stick with the original layerbreak. Where they don't, perhaps they know what they're doing and so can then opt to not have ImgBurn update the IFO's at all.
LIGHTNING UK!
6th August 2006, 13:25
Thanks r0lZ, I found that via a Google search ;)
Now I just need to find out the correct ordering of files in the AUDIO_TS folder!
blutach
6th August 2006, 14:08
AFAIK, the ordering of files in AUDIO_TS is the same as VIDEO_TS. Refer Jim Taylor's book, page 256 (2nd Ed).
Regards
jinjin_jp
6th August 2006, 14:35
If you select a cell that already has SPLIP set to false (and don't have 'seamless' checked), it assumes you've just picked the original one and that nothing else really need be done.
If you pick a different cell or change to 'seamless', it will attempt to set the other 'non seamless' cells back to seamless (not knowing for sure which one is the old layerbreak, it just does them all). This is quite 'rough' and basically just looks at whether or not the previous cell has a cell command. I've not made it any more detailed than that, so it doesn't check PTS times or whatever else it could do.
9 times out of 10 I'd expect people to stick with the original layerbreak. Where they don't, perhaps they know what they're doing and so can then opt to not have ImgBurn update the IFO's at all.
Thanks for the reply.
I understood it is ImgBurn's feature.
Certainly I always stick with the original layerbreak for backup. Changing layerbreak postion is almost on the purpose of confirming the software's feature.
Regards.
Jeffster
6th August 2006, 15:16
There is some information on the AUDIO_TS folder here (http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/spec/index.shtml) which may help?
I have a couple of Criterion dvd's which have a JACKET_P folder, and was also curious to compare the output of ISO's made with both ImgBurn and PgcEdit(mkisofs) for a DL disc, so I thought I'd create an image with each using files from one of the Criterion discs...
First thing I noticed while preparing the ISO's was the padding was different (the same cell selected) which I thought odd.
Anyway, as best as I can tell, the reason appears to be because ImgBurn placed the contents of the JACKET_P folder at the beginning of the ISO while PgcEdit placed them at the end after all the VIDEO_TS files.
I don't know if this matters or not?
Naturally I was curious then to see the order on the original DVD, and the contents of the JACKET_P folder are at the end also, same as the PgcEdit output. (The dvd has a Media Implementation Identifier: Spruce Technologies if that is of interest.)
LIGHTNING UK!
6th August 2006, 16:01
I've not heard of folder order being important as that's just taken from the filesystem. The order of files in the directories is though - obviously - as players just rely on offsets from the video_ts.ifo file rather than looking at LBA's of the actual files.
They might have stuck jacket_p on the end so they can mess around with layer break positioning that little bit more...who knows. That same would probably be true if there was any dvdrom content.
Going back to the audio_ts folder, it seems to have a bunch of extra files in it.
audio_ts.ifo + vob + bup
audio_sv.ifo + vob + bup
audio_pp.ifo + vob + bup
(not sure if the vobs are always present for those)
then there's also dvdaudio.mkb + bup
It seems the pp comes first, then ts, then sv - which of course is then out of alphabetical order and goes against typical filesystem specs - in the same way ifo -> vob -> bup does.
EDIT: If anyone can confirm that pp -> ts -> sv stuff on a dvd-audio disc I'd really appreciate it! I don't own any of them :(
Jeffster
6th August 2006, 16:10
There are also *.AOB files, which are the actual audio content, equivalent to VOB in the VIDEO_TS folder... it looks like any vob files are optional and likely to be menu's, the way I read it.
[Tobi]
6th August 2006, 16:46
AUDIO_TS.IFO
AUDIO_PP.IFO
AUDIO_TS.VOB
AUDIO_SV.IFO
AUDIO_SV.VOB
AUDIO_TS.BUP
Audio Manager menu, Still video info and Still video is optional.
ATS_01_0.IFO
ATS_01_0.AOB
ATS_01_1.AOB
***********
***********
***********
ATS_01_9.AOB
ATS_01_0.BUP
Audio Group menu is also optional.
LIGHTNING UK!
6th August 2006, 18:27
Ok, I think the sorting of those files is now done and correct.
Not sure how useful it is though, I don't hear of many people burning home made dvd-audio discs! (or if it's even possible!)
jinjin_jp
6th August 2006, 23:03
About setting of "Uppercase File/Folder Names"
Sorrry I misunderstood and thought "case" means folder. Now I know "uppercase" means capital letter.
I preparing folder of small letter and tested.
When both "Uppercase File/Folder Names" and "create AUDIO_TS Folder" are not checked, all folder remains samll letter.
But when at least one of "Uppercase File/Folder Names" and "create AUDIO_TS Folder" is checked, VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS are uppercase, and JACKET_P is not burned.
Where did I misunderstood yet?
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3171/060807imgburnuppercasenj8.th.png (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=060807imgburnuppercasenj8.png)
LIGHTNING UK!
7th August 2006, 01:03
I'm not sure your tests are correct there.
Jacket_p is just another folder to ImgBurn, it doesn't care about it.
If it's in the folder you're adding, it'll get added.
If you just add the video_ts folder to the 'source' box, the program doesn't know anything about the other folders.
i.e. if you have
C:\MY_DVD\AUDIO_TS
C:\MY_DVD\JACKET_P
C:\MY_DVD\VIDEO_TS
and you add
C:\MY_DVD\VIDEO_TS
to the list, ONLY the contents of C:\MY_DVD\VIDEO_TS will get put in the image. The AUDIO_TS folder is created (by the program internally) because the option in the settings is ticked, otherwise it wont be.
If you add C:\MY_DVD to the source list, all 3 folders will be added because they DO exist and are known to the program. Nothing has to be created by the program.
I just tested this, adding an additional 'test' folder to the root folder (i.e. C:\MY_DVD\test) and it using C:\MY_DVD as the source. The resulting image contained the 'test' folder - no problems there.
EDIT: Oh and before you find out for youself, it will only uppercase the audio_ts and video_ts folders + the dvd video content (files) of the video_ts folder. As I didn't really look into the audio_ts one, I'd not made any attempt to uppercase anything. Same goes for jacket_p.
I HAVE done it now though and it will uppercase all the right stuff - but of course you do not have this version as it hasn't been released :)
jinjin_jp
7th August 2006, 10:26
Thanks for @LIGHTNING UK!
Sorry not to good at explanation and English.
My test is
I have
C:\MY_DVD\audio_ts
C:\MY_DVD\jacket_p
C:\MY_DVD\video_ts
and I add C:\MY_DVD to the source list.
and change settings of (1)"Uppercase File/Folder Names" and (2)"create AUDIO_TS Folder".
and burn DVD.
and confirm whether name of each folder is corrected to uppercase or not in DVD.
The result is
*setting (1) and (2) both not-check => all 3 folder remain with small letter.
*other settings => threre are 'VIDEO_TS' and 'AUDIO_TS' folder with uppercase, and not burned 'jacket_p' folder.
'JACKET_P' folder with uppercase seems to remain.
Regards.
LIGHTNING UK!
7th August 2006, 11:29
Sorry, I've tried hard but I can't reproduce that.
When you go to build the image and the little 'image details' box pops up before the build actually starts, how many folders does it say the image contains?
i.e. it will say:
X files, Y folders.
File System(s): ISO9660 + UDF
Volume Label: xxxxxxxxx
etc.
With the same 'MY_DVD' layout you're using there, on mine, it says 3 folders.
None of those settings have any impact on folders/files added to the root directory. As mentioned before, the 'filter' one only filters the files/folders in the 'VIDEO_TS' folder, and then folders in the 'AUDIO_TS' folder.
jinjin_jp
7th August 2006, 14:11
@LIGHTNING UK!
'image details' box say same thing about all combination of settings of "Uppercase File/Folder Names" and "create AUDIO_TS Folder".
11 files, 3 folders.
File System(s): ISO9660 + UDF
Volume Label: TEST
Size : 1,210,646,528
Sectors : 591,136
Image Size : 1,211,230,208
Image Sectors : 591,421
3 folders contain jacket_p(JACKET_P) folder.
11 files contain 3 files in jacket_p(JACKET_P) folder.
Size is coresponding to 11 files. (Size is small, because it is what I prepared to save time of test.)
These seems to be different from burned DVD except for when both "Uppercase File/Folder Names" and "create AUDIO_TS Folder" are not checked.
Regards.
LIGHTNING UK!
7th August 2006, 15:15
What's show on that screen is exactly what's put in the image.
If it quotes 3 folders, there will be 3 folders in the image. Same goes for files.
As I've said before, the fact that you're calling that folder jacket_p means nothing to imgburn. That name is not anywhere in it's code.
If you can add a folder called 'test' and it gets put in the image, there is NO reason at all why the 'jacket_p' one wouldn't work.
I wonder if perhaps whatever you're burning is just not refreshing properly - incase you're buring on-the-fly or whatever.
Build an ISO instead and look at it with ISO Buster or mount in DAEMON Tools.
jinjin_jp
7th August 2006, 16:56
I wonder if perhaps whatever you're burning is just not refreshing properly - incase you're buring on-the-fly or whatever.
Build an ISO instead and look at it with ISO Buster or mount in DAEMON Tools.
I tried to build an ISO, so the result is what I expected like below.
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/2412/060808imgburnuppercasepo2.th.png (http://img173.imageshack.us/my.php?image=060808imgburnuppercasepo2.png)
And I re-tried to burn DVD, too. This time the result is what I expected and different from previous try.
Perhaps I didn't refresh properly as you say. But I'll be doing just like last time, and can't remember how to test accurately.
Thanks very much, it cleared.
voo_doo99
8th August 2006, 15:01
Great BUILD feature :thanks:
A small request: can the DVD-TEXT entered in PgcEdit be picked up and fill the UDF label in ImgBurn?. Thanks.
LIGHTNING UK!
8th August 2006, 15:18
Not exactly what you wanted but the next version will auto generate the name from the folder if you don't specify one.
manolito
8th August 2006, 16:05
A BIG thanks for this version, ISOBUILD mode is just what I needed...
One question: When I run Imgburn in ISOBUILD mode from the command line (batch mode), the readme says that I have to specify the source folder with a trailing backslash. This does not work on my machine (Win XP SP2 German). It does work perfectly though when I specify the source without the backslash.
And it took me a while to find out that I had to specify /NOIMAGEDETAILS in addition to /START to make it work without user interaction.
And another discovery: Version 2.0 burns faster on my Benq 1620 than 1.3 or DVDDec.
Thanks again
Cheers
manolito
Kriz
8th August 2006, 17:02
So, using the build function, it's possible to make ISOs with folders that contain anything, for burning just any old regular data to DVDs?
Susana
8th August 2006, 17:09
So, using the build function, it's possible to make ISOs with folders that contain anything, for burning just any old regular data to DVDs?
Yes. Select a proper file system in Image Options.
Great app, all a revolution in my website.- Thank you very much.
LIGHTNING UK!
8th August 2006, 17:46
manolito,
The CLI trailing backslash on paths problem has been fixed for the next release. It was a bug rather than a case of the documentation being incorrect.
I never use the CLI stuff personally so it undergoes very minimal testing.
ludeboy12
9th August 2006, 03:09
this version is great. thanx for all the hard work and new features.
voo_doo99
10th August 2006, 13:56
Small request: Can an info label for 32K GAP setting like 32K GAP is OFF and 32K GAP is ON be added to the "Layer Break Selection" screen and the "Image Details" pop-up box. It would be great reminder, as I kept forgetting to set and reset them as needed [for different DVD players]. Thanks.
blutach
10th August 2006, 14:28
It's in the settings as I am sure you know voo_doo99.
Regards
voo_doo99
10th August 2006, 15:26
It's in the settings as I am sure you know voo_doo99.
Regards
You know I know it is in the Settings screen :)
What I asked is to see what it was set, at the LB Create screen, or the Image Details screen [a la PgcEdit Burn ISO] before I start the Burn sequence.
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