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sarmin
31st July 2006, 15:31
thanks sir. i haVE few questions:
where can i get EQM v3 ULR?
What does this mean? "1st pass @q=4"
and where can i select this setting?
is it in the zone options?
what should the max quantizer-restrictions be?
sarmin
31st July 2006, 16:04
and how do i add a matrices?
going to use the EQM V3ULR but i don't know how to add it in xvid
Livesms
31st July 2006, 16:08
and how do i add a matrices?
going to use the EQM V3ULR but i don't know how to add it in xvid
How do you use Xvid? Via VirtualDub (VfW codec) or Megui (CommandLine xvid_encraw)?
sarmin
31st July 2006, 16:09
via virtualdub
sarmin
31st July 2006, 16:25
hi
i need a matrix that is good when makeing one cd.i want a matrix that has good quality and speed. i'm going to only make 1 cd encodes or less. so what matrix do you recommend? and how do i add a matrix into xvid? and how do i add profiles into xvid?
i'm useing virtualdub-mpeag2.
thanks in advance
Teegedeck
31st July 2006, 16:56
Most questions you asked have been asked and answered before many, many times. Search is your friend.
As some of the answers are complicated I'm only gonna answer the simple questions and ask you to use the search function and read the FAQs for the rest of them.
The answer to the choice of matrix question depends on resolution and other factors, use search to find out more.
Still, Sharktooth's EQMv3 ULR might be a good choice for you. Also Javor's 1CD matrix could interest you.
CQMs have NO notable influence on encoding speed.
You can't add profiles to XviD at all. You can add profiles to MeGUI by choosing 'import profiles' from the menu; perhaps you meant that.
sarmin
31st July 2006, 17:01
i'm useing virtualdub so how should i add the custom matrix?
sarmin
31st July 2006, 17:07
can i add them to vdub?
how do i add the cqm to xvid?
i have reaed your new revision of presets so i have some questions
and what should the max quantizer-restrictions be for the * XviD '>30% comp. check' (HQ)?
and what is , 1st pass @q=4, and where should i select this option?
and this options you wrote are they good for vdub to or should i use other options for vdub?
kurt
31st July 2006, 17:07
here is the answer:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4828/image1ib3.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1ib3.jpg)
Livesms
31st July 2006, 17:13
via virtualdub
So you have can load or save matrix using
Video->Compression->Xvid MPEG-4 Codec->Profile@Level (press more...) -> Quantization type (select MPEG-Custom)->Edit Matrix...->Load matrix... and here you can select location and file to load matrix or press Save matrix... and select location and filename to save your matrix.
Teegedeck
31st July 2006, 17:26
sarmin, don't ask the same questions everywhere. That's called cross-posting and violates forum rule #8 (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm). For this time I'm gonna move all your posts to your thread where they belong. Don't cross-post!
Edit. For a first pass at a fixed quantizer, define a zone in XviD's zone-tab and set it to a constant quantizer.
sarmin
31st July 2006, 18:28
if i use the EQM V3ULR can i still play xvid movies on my standalone
dvd player?
and what should the max quantizer-restrictions be for the * XviD '>30% comp. check' (HQ)?
Teegedeck
31st July 2006, 18:35
1) That depends on your player. Please look for info in the hardware subforum.
2) That info is there in the presets thread... EQMv3 ULR...
sarmin
31st July 2006, 19:31
so t's 5 but i wasen't sure cuz the default is 31 so i thought i made a mistake thats why i asked. is it 5?
Teegedeck
31st July 2006, 20:42
If I wrote that in the presets thread, why should I tell you anything different here? It is quite annoying if I have to repeat myself to you.
sarmin
31st July 2006, 21:27
ok sir sorry. i have converted as in your preset. but i there is one problem i set the size to 350mb in xvids bitrate calculator but when i converted the video i got 403mb. the file got oversized what do you think the problem is.
i converted a 700mb xvid movie.
Teegedeck
31st July 2006, 21:36
Did you think of calculating audio-bitrate?
Repeat the calculation with Gordian Knot which is the more precise bitrate calculator.
If that isn't the reason you probably hit the maximum-allowed quantizer for that preset. Reduce resolution. You can perform an Enc comp.check - as described in that thread - to prevent that in your future encodings.
sarmin
31st July 2006, 21:42
i did calculate audio-bitrate.
i don't have gordian knot cuz i'm useing vdub. i made a 2pass encode and i followed your guide 'fast, extreme compression'.
in vdub i choosed fast recompress
sarmin
1st August 2006, 11:17
what matrix is good to use for bitrates under 700?
and where can i download jawors 1cd matrix?
Teegedeck
1st August 2006, 11:19
Use the search button, please, it is your friend.
sarmin
1st August 2006, 11:22
what should i search for?
sarmin
1st August 2006, 11:31
and sir why did you use ulr instead of javor's 1cd in your preset thread? is ulr better?
Teegedeck
1st August 2006, 11:41
I guess I must have thought so; otherwise I wouldn't have used it. And no, I am not going to do your searches for you. But this time I can help you easily: I know I have answered the question 'where can I download matrices' yesterday. So simply search for my posts from yesterday.
sarmin
1st August 2006, 11:53
ok if it's the best then i don't need the other matrices. but is it the best for under 700 bitrates to?
Teegedeck
1st August 2006, 11:57
The only better thing for such bitrates is a different codec: x264.
sarmin
1st August 2006, 13:09
ok sir thank you very much for your help.
i just have one question left. # 'good quality, extreme compression', tooltip: 'at ~15-25% of original filesize, apt for sports'':ME6, VHQ=4, VHQ for b-frames, AQ, chroma ME, EQM v3 ULR, 1st pass @q=4, curve-compr. H30, L15, quantizer-restrictions min. 3
i can't see any max. in quantizer-restrictions. there is only min.3
Teegedeck
1st August 2006, 13:12
Thanks, but you're actually quoting a very outdated post.
The up-to-date version is here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=841263#post841263
* XviD '>30% comp. check' (HQ): MSP=6, VHQ=4, VHQ for b-frames, QPel, AQ, EQM v3 ULR rev.3, curve-compr. H30, L15, quantizer-restrictions min. 3, max. 5
sarmin
1st August 2006, 13:31
ok thanks.
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