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laserfan
28th July 2006, 16:17
I like to play back-ups of my TV episode sets (e.g. Sopranos, Six Feet Under) and use PgcEdit to "Jump to Main Menu" past the warning & startlogo. In checking the result with PowerDVD, I have noticed sometimes I'll select a menu (e.g. Episode Index) and it will briefly appear, but then skip to another (wrong) menu but then go back to the desired menu and finally stop there as it should. Thinking this to be an anomaly of PowerDVD 5.0, I've burned the resulting VIDEO_TS and they've always worked, to this point at least.

Well, I found myself unable to select an episode on one of my backups last night. I'd try to select episode 5 but it would play right-thru the animated menu and go instead to episode 6 menu. :(

I looked at my backup with PgcEdit and it navigates OK (lots of animated menus and something called "LinkTailPgc"s to get thru) and stops where it should. Again, it doesn't always stop for PowerDVD, and my Sony DVD player goes nuts with the thing, almost as if it's playing the VOB without respecting the navigational cues at all. With my Panasonic DVD player (my testing player) the menus work fine again.

In thinking about the problem I realize that another thing I do, besides doing a "Jump-to" over the 15sec intro/warning, is that I "Kill PGC Playback" of it, cuz I'm anal or paranoid or both. :o

I've never seen anything like my menu problem reported before--is it possible that by "Killing Playback" of the warning/startlogo pgc (a 15sec thing) I'm avoiding the setting of a flag of some sort that causes some players to not stop in the menus properly? Oddly, I have done a lot of discs this way and this is the first time I've made one where the menus run-on crazily without stopping properly.
:confused:

r0lZ
29th July 2006, 08:23
I have never encountered this kind of problem before.
I doubt that killing playback of the intros is the cause of the problem.

With the info in this thread, I cannot figure out what happens.
Have you modified the menu buttons, or some of the menu parameters? Have you used MenuShrink or FixVTS on your menus? Have you modified the menu subpics, or the domain streams attributes?

Anyway, if a menu cell (with buttons) is played, it must wait for the user input, unless it is designed to continue automatically after some time, or something has been changed in the menu parameters. Changing the navigation commands cannot explain why the menu doesn't wait any more.

If you wish, I can have a look at your files. Please send me your original IFOs and the menu VOBs. (Use MenuShrink if the VOB files are too big, but in this case, it it's possible, I prefer to see the original files.) Send me also the modified IFOs.

laserfan
29th July 2006, 16:20
Thanks r0lZ for your reply!

Have you modified the menu buttons, or some of the menu parameters? Have you used MenuShrink or FixVTS on your menus? Have you modified the menu subpics, or the domain streams attributes?No, just "Jump to [main menu]" and "Kill Pgc Playback" as I said. No, wait :eek: I do this to DVDs that have been re-built from DVD-9 to DVD-5 using DVD Rebuilder Pro. Maybe something in there, especially as recent versions have included menu shrinking which I've always left turned-on, even when this new feature was "in beta" IIRC.

Changing the navigation commands cannot explain why the menu doesn't wait any more.
I will look first at the question of the DVD-RB version I used for this disc--maybe it was an interim (buggy) one. Else I will see about possibly packing-up the files for you. I have a VERY slow/bad internet upload though so dunno if I will be successful.

I have never encountered this kind of problem before. That in itself is also good to know. Thanks again.