Frameserve out of Adobe to VDub?

[State of Mind]

Hi, I'm a perfectionist and I have this really nice video I've made with x264 at 3000 kbps. Anyway, I like to have some effects done to it in Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0, but I DO NOT want to encode it in Adobe. I fear quality loss and such. Is there a way to frameserve it so the quality stays the exact same and only the effects I added get encoded in with my video? I just have your typical start/end notes on a black background, fade effects and music in the background.

Can someone please help me?

[State of Mind]

Anyone?

[unskinnyboy]

You cannot add effects to any video without re-encoding it, whatever application you use. Either you do the encoding too in Adobe Premiere or use VirtualDub/Avisynth to apply your effects and encode it outside of Adobe Premiere with some other application.

[Blue_MiSfit]

Getting video out of premiere pro is no easy task :)

If you are just editing standard DV, then it's a no brainer. Just export to DV and then encode with avisynth+vdub/megui.

If you have anything else, like DVCPRO HD, or 24p DV, getting video successfully out is very tricky!

As previously stated though, if you want to add effects to something, you will have to recompress it. End of story.

~MiSfit

[ChronoCross]

wouldn't it be possible to use ffdshow and huffy to output to lossless and then do the conversion using vdub? Since I think adobe uses vfw?

[smok3]

You cannot add effects to any video without re-encoding it
sure you can, the effects part gets transcoded (like the duration of dissolve), the parts that didnt change get directstreamed...., i wouldnt know how to do that with x264/mp4 thought.

[unskinnyboy]

sure you can, the effects part gets transcoded (like the duration of dissolve), the parts that didnt change get directstreamed...., i wouldnt know how to do that with x264/mp4 thought.
That's what I meant, that the parts to which the effects are applied needs to be re-encoded (regardless of the codec used). Not sure what you refer to as "transcode" here. Which application would do this seamlessly anyway, without having to doing a lot of manual editing?

[smok3]

any editing app at least when you work in its native mode.

[State of Mind]

Ok, I just thought there was a way to frameserve the audio and video after the effects and music were put in, so Adobe wouldn't encode it.
I'm not working with DV, this is an AVI file I encoded with x264 at 3000 kbps.

[Raptus]

Yes, you can frameserve from Premiere (and other NLE apps which don't support it natively) using the debugmode frameserve plugin:
http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/

[bond]

apply the effects in adobe on an uncompressed/lossless encoded file. feed this filtered stream to vdub via avisynth

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