This may seem stupid to some....

[Dat]

Hi, im just getting to grips with this SVCD encoding now, and i got one thing on my mind thats bothering me.

I use CCE to encode my MPEG2 video, and i have stopped using multipass VBR and now use CBR because it encodes a hell of a lot faster, and even if i use another CD-R im not bothered because to me the quality is the best it can be.

So my question is if i encode using CBR at max bitrate possible, this should be the highest video quality possible from CCE right? i mean if i used a 5 pass VBR the quality should be high, but its not possible for it too look any better then my CBR encoding?

Is that right? or is the highest quality only achieved using VBR?

Hope that makes sense :D

Thanks in advance.

[poopity poop]

yes the CBR will look the best...

but...

the CBR file will most likely be about...let's say 6gigs in size, whereas the vbr file will be normal and useable.

See...if you have an average bitrate of like 1700 and max around 6000, the high motion scenes will get that 6000(or close to it), and the low motion scenes will get like 500. If you just CBR to 6000Kbps than the file size will be 4 times as big. GEt the picture? CBR is fine, but who needs tons of bits during a low motion scene? Is it worth the exta time to make sure high moion scenes get more bits, and low motion scenes get less averageing out to a normal size mpg? I think so, but you have to make up your mind

[Dat]

Well, i encode to SVCD standards, so my combined bitrate is always 2723Kbps or slightly less.

This means i get about 40 mins of film per cd at very high quality, so most films fit on 3 cd-r's :D

Thanks for replying ;)

[poopity poop]

hey I have a question regarding SVCD's... IS 2400Kbps the highest bitrate you can use when encoding an SVCD? Or can you go as high as you want and it wil jsut not be a standard SVCD but will still playback fine.
Same with VCD's which the highest is 1150. Can you encode it the same settings for an SVD like 500min 1700avg and 3500max or something and still make a VCD out of it and have it play back fine in a player?

[smiller667]

Originally posted by poopity poop
Can you encode it the same settings for an SVD like 500min 1700avg and 3500max or something and still make a VCD out of it and have it play back fine in a player?Depends very much on the player. In general, the cheaper units (i.e. Asian-made nonames) will be more tolerant towards playing off-standard material.
Try playing a VCD with >1150 bitrate in a VCD player with a single-speed drive -> no go. Try SVCD with more than standard bitrate in a Pioneer 5x5 -> no luck either.

[poopity poop]

so what is the max bitrate for a standard SVCD?

[Clydesdale]

Originally posted by Dat
[B]Well, i encode to SVCD standards, so my combined bitrate is always 2723Kbps or slightly less.



How do you arrive at 2723 cbr? More generally, if doing cbr encoding, how do you figure out the bitrate? If doing this I would want to somehow set it so the movie is on 2 disks, not 3.

[Dat]

Right, what i do is encode at 2594kbps video bitrate (CBR) and 128kbps audio bitrate thus arriving at 2722 as the combined bitrate, using this bitrate so far i have never had a player not be able to play it without any problems what so ever.

I am unsure of this, but i thought 2723kbps was the highest bitrate possible for an SVCD that meets the SVCD standard, as far as im aware alot of people think its 2600, but i sure i read somewhere this is untrue.