Leroy and Stitch undersized w/enable menu encoding on

[Fishman0919]

I just finished encoding Leroy and Stitch and got a size of 4.09 gb, the org size is 7.21 GB... I'm using DVD-RB pro 1.10.2 and CCE Basic.... I redid the movie with HC .18 and got the same size, tried again with CCE SP 2.50 3-passes...same size. Redid the movie 1 last time with CCE Basic but turned off menu encoding and got a size of 4.31 gb.

It looks like the menu is not with the main movie as in most discs.

Has any one else tried this disc and got similar results.

[jdobbs]

Any chance it could be encoder saturation? Are you doing a full encode, movie only?

I'm working away from my office for a few more days -- this modem connection business makes answering harder...
:(

[Fishman0919]

full encode... I did 1 encoding with 25% off extra's and half D1 and then the others with nothing off extra's and turned off half D! and got the same 4.09 gb

EDIT: Any chance it could be encoder saturation?

I'll check.... while is CCE was going I didn't see anything to low.... 3-5 for I,P and B

but then what would it not undersize if you turn off menu encoding

[setarip_old]

@Fishman0919

Hi!

"Leroy & Stitch" contains 2 HUGE dummy .VOBs, totalling almost 2 Gigs! (One is the "VIDEO_TS.VOB". I've forgotten which is the other one). As I recall, after elimination of these two .VOBs, the size of the FULL DVD was less than a full DVD5.

Is it possible that your ripping method has eliminated these two detritus .VOBs?

[Fishman0919]

@Fishman0919

Hi!

"Leroy & Stitch" contains 2 HUGE dummy .VOBs, totalling almost 2 Gigs! (One is the "VIDEO_TS.VOB". I've forgotten which is the other one). As I recall, after elimination of these two .VOBs, the size of the FULL DVD was less than a full DVD5.

Is it possible that your ripping method has eliminated these two detritus .VOBs?

Well I used RipIt4Me Version 1.4.0.0 with FixVTS 1.4 and DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 and also I tried AnyDVD 6.0.3.1... both rips look about the same, both end up with the same result 4.09 gb when enable menu encoding is selected... if I unselect menu encoding the size ends up at 4.31-4.33 gb depending on the encoder


the two fakes are, VIDEO_TS.VOB=897,974 kb
and VTS_01_0.VOB=538,560 kb

EDIT: ripped folder size is 7.21 gb

[Fishman0919]

update: I found another DVD with a huge dummy VOB, GLORY_ROAD, and with menu encode enabled same thing... 4.06 gb. If I turn off menu encode 4.32 gb

EDIT: sorry this movie really doesn't have a dummy VOB, just 1 segment at the end of the menu "W01002000019001.AVS" that is 20 min long and is blank

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:19, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\W01.D2V",idct=6)
trim(5875,34642)
ConvertToYV12(interlaced=true)

[item]
title=W01002000019001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\W01002000019001.vaf
aud_file=C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\W01002000019001.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=1
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=2021
vbr_brate_min=300
vbr_brate_max=3484
seq_endcode=0
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
adjust_q_matrix=0
aspect_ratio=2
gop_m=3
gop_nm=5
gop_hdr=15
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=0
alternate_scan=1
intra_dc_prec=0
top_first=1
offset_line=0
encode_mode=0
vmode=2
fast_mode=0
quality_prec=25
timecode=0x0000000
vid_file0=C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\W01002000019001.m2v
vid_file1=C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\W01002000019001.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=3484
vbr_bias=25
vbr_pass=2
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1
qmat_idx=0

[file]
name=C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\W01002000019001.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=28768
encode_first=0
encode_last=28768

vbr_brate_avg=2021 but with both CCE Basic and HC avg biterate ended up at 170

Both of these Titles are Disney DVD's..... THX Walt