RipIt4Me - Update 22 March to v1.7.1.0

[blutach]

I was just thumbing around the Digital Digest site (http://www.digital-digest.com/) and saw this new ripping prog which was posted yesterday.

Tiny little app called RipIt4Me, it seems a gem. Makes PSLs and calls DVD Decrypter and then FixVTS.

Get it here (http://www.digital-digest.com/software/RipIt4Me.html) and give it a try.

Just thought I'd let members know.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@blutach
Sounds remarkably simple.

Have you tried it yet?

"Author - Unknown" seems a bit curious. Has it been checked by the folks at Digital Digest to make sure it's not potentially harmful?

[ojdidit]

Forgive me, but I seem to be missing the advantage of using this. It uses the same progs I already use. Why do I need the middleman?

[Adub]

For simplicity's sake. It is kind of like the PGCedit arccoss plugin wizard.

[BigDid]

Link to the tutorial, really Noob friendly: http://www.riphelp.com/RipIt4Me/guide.htm#start

Did

[blutach]

@blutach
Sounds remarkably simple.

Have you tried it yet?

"Author - Unknown" seems a bit curious. Has it been checked by the folks at Digital Digest to make sure it's not potentially harmful? Doesn't seem to be harmful. The IFOs it produces look as clean as a whistle.

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?postid=420684#post420684

It seems to be a bit of an automation of the plugin without the need for PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html). Decrypt with DVD Decrypter, make a PSL, run FixVTS (www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS).

Should be good for newbies who find PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) a bit daunting.

Regards

[linx05]

Wow that's really cool. I want to have a try at it now! The thing is, I don't think I have any Arccoss protected DVDs.

EDIT: My only gripe with it at the moment is you can't move the scroll bar up or down when in wizard mode.

[WarDog]

I will half to try this new program and see if it is any good because I have heard thru the grapevine that the plugin is not being updated any longer because TMM has dropped the project. Hopefully someone else can confirm this rumor!

Well I am off to download this new progy and give it a good test.

[WarDog]

I just did Ultraviolet with this program and it worked great and so did psl2. Always good to have a another program that will work.:D

[cynthia_old]

I will half to try this new program and see if it is any good because I have heard thru the grapevine that the plugin is not being updated any longer because TMM has dropped the project.Only four new versions of the plugin the latest month from TMM...

[WarDog]

Only four new versions of the plugin the latest month from TMM...
Thank you for letting me know that. I will look for the latest release.

I think this is cool there is now 2 programs that are free that can help me backup my dvd's. :D

[bill7621]

This is a really nice little app. It has a "one click" mode and from that point on it's all auto. All the up to and including analyzing in shrink. Real nice, you can go do dishes or something while it does it's thing. My hats off to the unknown author, whoever you are!

[dialysis1]

I just did Ultraviolet and I must say that the ifo's are beautiful. Even PgcEdit had no complaints. It's fun playing with new toys!
Once you have a beautiful backup, all that's left is a beautiful burn(which is another topic).

[setarip_old]

What's most impressive to me is that, after all this time, DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 (released 15 months ago) continues to be the linchpin of freeware DVD ripping solutions, despite the many iterations of "ARccOS" and the introduction of "RipGuard" introduced after DVD Decrypter updating ceased...

I'm glad to see that things seem to be getting closer to what I suggested (at another forum) back on July 18,2005: 1) DVD Decrypter v.3.54 has the ability to identify all bad sectors

2) DVD Decrypter v.3.54 has the ability to generate a log - that includes all bad sector identification

Surely there's a qualified programmer (perhaps "Chetwood" or other) who's a member of these forums, who can create a small tool to automate the creation and importing back into DVD Decrypter of the PSL file - to make this activity transparent to the user and eliminate the need for independent creation of PSL files and/or seeking out already-existing PSL files.

Doing so would maintain DVD Decrypter as a current program regarding its ability to deal with new versions of "ARccOS" copy protection schemes.

[dialysis1]

What irritates me is that DVDD had an order to Cease And Disist while these other decrypters are still out there.

[setarip_old]

What irritates me is that DVDD had an order to Cease And Disist while these other decrypters are still out there.It seems to be a matter of location (China, Antigua, etc. versus Europe, North America, etc.)

The significant point is that, despite this, DVD Decrypter continues to be relevant in freeware solutions...

[dialysis1]

Well I just finished Annapolis. Everything looks great.

[nwg]

Version 1.1.0.0 is out. The auto updater should find it and download it. Then just overwrite the old version.

I have done these DVD's with perfect results.

The Fog 2005 R2
Kung Fu Hustle R2
Stealth R2
The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe R2
Mindhunters R2
Memoirs of a Geisha R2
MirrorMask R2

[setarip_old]

@nwg

Hi!Version 1.1.0.0 is out.Do you know what necessitated an update so soon after the initial release?

[nwg]

@nwg

Hi!Do you know what necessitated an update so soon after the initial release?

Hi

There was supposed to be a random bug which made the program not remember the location of DVD Decrypeter.exe when it loaded. I never experienced it and only know of one person who has.

[setarip_old]

Thanks for the info ;>}

Curious to know where you found that information, as I couldn't locate it at the software's site

[ron spencer]

where has this come from...and by who?

[setarip_old]

Although it seems to be a big secret, from what I've seen of the neat, efficient-yet-thorough coding, I believe this program has a very familiar British touch to it ;>}

[blutach]

That bug was reported by a poster at Digital Digest in the thread about this prog.

@setarip_old - I'm speculating as much as you, but if you are implying that LUK! has anything to do with this program, then he would have lost his very considerable brains.

Regards

[unskinnyboy]

You can discount LUK! from this. The autoupdater component of RipIt4Me is connecting to an Israeli ISP, Bezeqint.net.

[6/30/2006 9:03:25 PM]
Direction: outgoing
Local Point: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, port xxxx
Adapter: NETGEAR 108 Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter WG311T - Packet Scheduler Miniport
Remote Point: bzq-219-197-12.pop.bezeqint.net [62.219.197.12], port http [80]
Protocol: TCP

BEZEQ-INTERNATIONAL-LTD
40 Hashacham Street,
49170
Petach-Tikva
Israel

[setarip_old]

if you are implying that LUK! has anything to do with this program...No need to jump to conclusions. I believe that Great Britain is the home to several programmers in addition to "LIGHTNING UK!".

Perhaps a "Miss Marple" could provide the mysterious author's identity;>}

[blutach]

In any event, I agree with setarip_old - the whole prog looks terrific and more importantly, seems to work brilliantly, "right out of the box", which is a real credit to its author. Seems he/she is quick on the updates, too.

Regards

[setarip_old]

Time will tell regarding the continuing effectiveness of this new program. the telling factor will be how promptly the next iteration of "ARccOS" is dealt with - or if a new iteration of "RipGuard" should ever be made...

[blutach]

Here is the list of changes for the first update

Regards
Added code that detects cells that have been erroneously removed. The code warns the user if there's a chance that the cell was removed because the DVD was scratched.
Fixed a bug in the code that checks for Decrypter on startup.

[setarip_old]

As i posted in response to "nwg" earlier in this thread, I'm curious to know where you found that information, as I couldn't locate it at the software's site...

[blutach]

It was in the thread a digital digest

Regards

[setarip_old]

If you're referring to this post:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?postid=421603#post421603
I'd ask you, is there something more official (than the post of a member of that forum) as a source, for both this and future updates?

As "nwg" asked in that thread,Where did you find this info as I haven't seen it on any of the webpages.

Although I can possibly understand the author's desire for anonymity, I can't think of any reason for not posting information about version changes at the program website, can you?

[WarDog]

I could care less if the Pope wrote this program as long as he keeps updating it to work on any new copy protections.
I just don't understand what difference it makes who wrote it or where info comes from as long as we get it in a timely manner. I just hope this author doesn't decide to stop updating, crap we need all the free rippers (that work) we can get. :D

[setarip_old]

@WarDog

As I said, I can understand why the author might want to be anonymous.

I would just like to believe that there will be an official source for explanations of future updates at the new www.ripit4me.org website, rather than relying on an unsubstantiated posting by a member of a(nother) forum...

[WarDog]

@setarip_old

Well I will agree with you on that 100%. Hopefully this author will add a version link in the program that will keep us abreast of what has taken place in the newest version releases, but as we all know Sony and MV will soon have there hands on it to work there counter attacks. Maybe it's a good idea not to post what you have done in each release and make things harder for the big boys (just a thought). :D

[blutach]

Well setarip_old, I also have seen it in the guide, which I have just viewed.

Regards

[WarDog]

Thanks blu, I just got around to reading the guide myself after you pointed that out.

"What is new in the latest version?

Added code that detects cells that have been erroneously removed. The code warns the user if there's a chance that the cell was removed because the DVD was scratched.
Fixed a bug in the code that checks for Decrypter on startup."

[setarip_old]

Well setarip_old, I also have seen it in the guide, which I have just viewed.Excellent! That guide has been updated in the past 1/2 hour or so - and that's exactly what one would hope to see. Perhaps the author or documentarian read my post ;>}

[blutach]

Well, he/she read someone's post, or just got around to it.

I guess these folks like programming and not guides. :)

Regards

[setarip_old]

I guess these folks like programming and not guides.And conversely...;>}

[nwg]

If you're referring to this post:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?postid=421603#post421603
I'd ask you, is there something more official (than the post of a member of that forum) as a source, for both this and future updates?

As "nwg" asked in that thread,




You are correct. I was reading that thread on DD. I was curious where the changelog for the new version came from as the download site still has 1.0.0.0 details unrecently. I thought I has missed it on a page somewhere.

Still a great program. I have had no problems with it. It doesn't matter who the person is. It looks like it is being kept up to date which is the only thing people wants.

[ron spencer]

well....it oculd be written by anyone, even "those in the UK", and hosted in Isreal.

In any case, the speculation is fun....but the program is "funner"

[Fluffbutt]

I'd suggets an addition, if the author were anywhere to be found..

call MenuShrink before DvdShrink, that way you can remove 200 - 2000 Mb of crapola from the animated menus.

[headphonesman]

Nice no nonsense program, thought PGC edit was good, but this seems to be on the ball, but I cannot seem to download version 1.1.....it keeps downloading version 1.0....Anyone else having this problem....or can someone link me to an alternative site where I can get 1.1. ?

[dirio49]

use check for update in the help menu.:D
http://www.digital-digest.com/software/download.php?sid=1212&ssid=0&did=1

[nwg]

Nice no nonsense program, thought PGC edit was good, but this seems to be on the ball, but I cannot seem to download version 1.1.....it keeps downloading version 1.0....Anyone else having this problem....or can someone link me to an alternative site where I can get 1.1. ?

Just use the auto updater. If you download from the webpage, clear your browser cache/cookies first.

[headphonesman]

Nope ...thanks for the suggestion and link tried that....downloaded a zip file ok but it came up with 1.0.0.0....any body else have an idea ?.....pleeese ?

[headphonesman]

thanks for quick response fellas, still no joy.....have cleared cookies and temp internet files in disc cleanup....still downloads version 1.0.....I have had exactly same problem before with updates of DVDFabdecryp from Fengtao...give it a couple of days and it then works....something to do with servers ?..........I will try again in a couple of days.

[dirio49]

i would say try it in a different browser.
because it is there. when i gave you the link i tested it and it worked.

[blutach]

@headphonesman

Please read rule 12 and do not bump your posts - 17 minutes is hardly time for you to give reminders that we need to service your needs.

v1.1 is a tiny bugfix made for DVD Decrypter users that installed into the wrong directory. If you don't get DVD Decrypter not found messages, don't sweat it.

But, I DL'ed 1.1 easily about 16 hours ago.

Regards

[headphonesman]

Apologies Blutach , I am sorry to have broken this rule and will allow a decent interval in future.
I have attempted the download again and this time have been succesful, I now have 1.1 !............I am not sure what causes this type of problem....but I do know of others who have had it.....
thanks for the original heads up on this program, it looks like it could keep Decryptor and Shrink going for some time longer , just like PGC Edit has done, I have used PGC but think I prefer RipIt4Me going forward

[dialysis1]

To download the update, you might want to try right click, save target as, then give it any name.zip.

[blutach]

NP headphonesman. I am sure these are server errors, as I have seen a few posts about this in the last 24 hours.

Regards

[blutach]

Seems there is a new website for RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/download.html).

http://www.ripit4me.org/

Regards

[setarip_old]

Already noted in post #34 of this thread...

[jm1647]

I'd suggets an addition, if the author were anywhere to be found..

call MenuShrink before DvdShrink, that way you can remove 200 - 2000 Mb of crapola from the animated menus.

You can do that in wizard mode if ya want I did after I ran fixVTS on a rip, used menu shrink, Pgcedit to blank vts's then on to shrink if it still needed it.

[blutach]

Version 1.2 is released and it has quite a changelog.

Version History
1.2.0.0 (3 July 2006)
Fixed a nasty bug that caused RipIt4Me to completely fail in some rare cases (Fun with Dick & Jane R2, for example).
Changed guide link.
Removed DVD Decrypter maximum speed setting. (not really necessary, might annoy some).
Added version history to Help menu.
Fixed bug in routine that detects protected cells. Also changed the way the original PSL is created. The ranges no longer overlap.
For scratched discs, added user option to continue with the cleanup or to abort.
RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/)

Regards

[blutach]

@jm1647 and Fluffbutt

That perhaps suggests a more refined enhancement.

Maybe add a "tools menu", where the user open the DVD in things other than DVD Shrink - eg MenuShrink (http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/), PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html), Ner0 Rec0de, DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php), with the user being able to add tools through the ini file perhaps.

Let's hope the author does read this thread.

Regards

[chew1138]

One thing I really love about Decrypter is the semi-automatic file creation (and placement) based on the title name, eg "CHEERS_S8_D1".

If the author is here taking suggestions, I would love to see that over the manual entry. It just takes out a step and a few seconds. (I tried an early version, apologies if that's since been added)

[setarip_old]

@blutachRemoved DVD Decrypter maximum speed setting. (not really necessary, might annoy some).Any idea what would have prompted the author to modify the program for something that's "not really necessary"?

[Mr_Odwin]

I assumed when I read that that the author meant they had previously limited the ripping speed that dvd decrypter was started with by RipIt4Me, but now the restriction is removed; the comment meaning that the previous situation was annoying, not the change made. Maybe I'm talking rubbish though!?!

[cynthia_old]

@ chew1138

Never used that function in DVD Decrypter. But I have a lot of DVDs that have the text string DVD_VIDEO on them. What happens if you rip two of those DVDs after eachother?

[setarip_old]

@Mr_Odwin

No, it's just the opposite. Earlier versions automatically set DVD Decrypter to "Max".

Perhaps, as I requested, the moderator will be able to provide some insight...

[Mr_Odwin]

Hmmm. That's odd. Does it set it to any specific speed or just the last that was used by DVD Decrypter? Is ripping more accurate at slower speeds?

[chew1138]

@ chew1138

Never used that function in DVD Decrypter. But I have a lot of DVDs that have the text string DVD_VIDEO on them. What happens if you rip two of those DVDs after eachother?

What I mean was Decrypter would do this:

"c:\CHEERS_S8_D1" and create a self-contained folder there. The DVD_VIDEO sub folder would be inside of that one.
"c:\CHEERS_S8_D2" for the second disc and create a second folder.

Typically as long as the DVD is authored properly by the studio (which is key, a lot of times all of the discs could just be named "CHEERS"), putting them in one after the other won't cause any issues. Just pop the disc in and hit start.

[setarip_old]

It would be nice if the primary GUI and Preferences screen were larger, with larger fonts - for both this program and "FixVTS"...

[blutach]

@setarip_old

I am not sure I can provide insight as I am not the author. But I saw a post on another forum which gave the impression that the poster was not happy because he was not able to rip at a slower speed (ie a speed he had set manually). I can only presume that the author has responded to this.

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?postid=422598#post422598


As for larger screens, I saw somewhere (either the guide or the animated guide posted in the RI4M forum) that if the resolution was set too low (800x600 for example), the right hand panel would go "off screen", so it seems this is a constraint. For FixVTS (www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS), post in IFO/VOB editors, where its author jeanl can respond.

Regards

[setarip_old]

As for larger screens...Well, I can hope that the author will, likewise, take note of my suggestion/request and find a simple way (e.g. overlapping windows, as is found in many other programs) to address the needs of aging eyes ;>}

[blutach]

Without wishing to seem flippant, I think there are other means of taking care of aging eyes - eg glasses (like I wear).

Or lowering screen resolution and moving the window to the left a bit, as is set out here (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=68097).

Regards

[blutach]

@chew1138

I think cynthia_old was meaning that SONY DVDs have a habit of not naming their DVDs like "Cheers_S8_D1" but DVDVIDEO. So the "automatic" folder would go to DRIVE LETTER:\DVDVIDEO\VIDEO_TS in these cases.

If it was totally automatic, this could lead to ripping in the same folder each time, which might not be what you want as it could overwrite an earlier rip which you might wanna keep.

But perhaps some sort of suggested folder might be in order. Hopefully, the author will consider these suggestions.

Regards

[cynthia_old]

No, Sony normally labels their DVDs in the right way. But there are some other DVD releasers that just use DVDVIDEO as the label.

[unskinnyboy]

RipIt4Me craps out if I have DVDIdle running in the background.

The DVD itself is a bit scratched (I can watch the DVD in MPC, but there are corrupted frames). I tried it with DVD Decrypter alone on my 2 drives and it aborted at 21% and 77% respectively on both. But with RipIt4Me, it aborts as soon as DVD Decrypter is launched. If I disable DVDIdle, it completes the rip in file mode though.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/131/ripit4meerror3jk.jpg

If it helps, EAccessViolation usually happens due to invalid memory access. Looks like DVDIdle and RI4M are stepping on each other's toes in the memory.

Feel free to copy/paste this onto the Digital-Digest forum if you think the author frequents that forum. I am not registered there.

[blutach]

The guide specifies not to have these things running. Might be an idea to keep it turned off when running RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/).

And I wouldn't know if the author frequents that forum either.

Regards

[unskinnyboy]

I see. And yes, that's what I did, although it would be good to avoid this contention. It could be that because I was using DVDIdle Pro which is a drive caching tool + DeCSS tool. Had I been using just DVDIdle, I might not be having this issue since it is just does drive caching. So another one to add to the list of incompatible software -> DVDIdle Pro.

[blutach]

Yup could be. I have an old version of DVD Region Free (just for RPC-1 stuff), and it works fine. Latter version may not, however.

Regards

[nwg]

It's never wise to have another DeCSS program running at the sametime as DVD D.

[unskinnyboy]

DVD Decrypter by itself will not clash with any DeCSS tools (at least not DVD Idle Pro). RI4M is what causes the contention with DeCSS tools.

[WarDog]

A known fact that DVDD will not work properly with DVD43 or AnyDVD running in the background. All this new program is doing is creating a psl file and using DVDD to rip the dvd. There is no way it is crashing DVDD!

[m1ckran]

Just spotted this thread and tried to download without success. Has ripit4me.org been closed?

[nwg]

Just spotted this thread and tried to download without success. Has ripit4me.org been closed?


No, just some server problems. It is working at the moment.

[m1ckran]

:thanks: :thanks:

[weaver4]

Great program, I have used it on a couple of my more "difficult" movies and it worked great.

[kis2005]

Great program. It speeds thing up very well. Thanks.

[setarip_old]

Let's hope that the author, whoever he or she is, reads our complimentary posts about this easy-to-use and very effective program ;>}

[blutach]

Well, whatever he/she is reading there a huge changelog in the latest version.

1.3.0.0 released today - RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/)

Version 1.3.0.0 (9 July 2006)
- In movie-only mode, the cleanup phase now remove any cell that's shorter than 2s, but leaves the last one.
- In 1-click mode, RipIt4Me asks for the path to FixVTS if the user hasn't set it yet and is planning on running it.
- Added movie-only mode. Adjust the preferences as follows:
- Adjust it in the preferences to set the default option (saved from run to run).
- Adjust it in wizard or 1-click mode for a temporary choice (not saved from run to run).
For example: If you do all your movies in movie-only mode, then set that in the preferences.
Otherwise, don't set it in the preferences and set it in the wizard/1-click for a 1-time shot.
- Added code to prevent running 2 instances of FixVTS or DVD Shrink simultaneously, or starting DVD Shrink while FixVTS is running.
- Added option to generate the target rip path automatically from the DVD label.
- If the DVD turns out to be scratched or dirty, the FinalPSLFile.psl psl file is modified to exclude cells that seem to include scratches. This allows you to re-rip the DVD in DVD Decrypter, making sure Decrypter will retry reading the scratched parts of the DVD as it does best.
- Added option to open the FAQ if the DVD appears to be scratched.
- Added code to check that DVD Decrypter isn't already running when RipIt4Me starts the rip.
- The wizard dialogs are now modeless, which allows you to go back to the main window and use the scrollers. One drawback is that tooltips don't work in modeless dialogs. Thank Bill for that.
- The log now scrolls to the bottom for new messages.
- Added option to play a sound at the end of the rip. There's no sound included with the app, so if you don't set one, it will try to use the DVD Decrypter success sound (note it will not play in wizard mode if you skip or abort the rip).
- Added check for AnyDVD and DVD43, with an option to (brutally) kill the process before running RipIt4Me.
- Changed DVD Decrypter option to hide Pack Header Not Found warnings.
Regards

[setarip_old]

Added movie-only mode.Nice touch ;>}

[linx05]

- The wizard dialogs are now modeless, which allows you to go back to the main window and use the scrollers. One drawback is that tooltips don't work in modeless dialogs. Thank Bill for that.
- The log now scrolls to the bottom for new messages.

Thank you very much!

[chew1138]

Added option to generate the target rip path automatically from the DVD label.


Sweet. Thanks. :D

[blutach]

V1.4 released. Looks like a small bugfix

"Fixed two problems in the UDF code that could prevent the correct detection of VOB files on the disc."

Regards

[linx05]

I really wish it wouldn't keep popping up with that dialog saying AnyDVD is running. I'd rather it was done the way it was implemented in ImgBurn, in the log file.

[blutach]

The idea is to kill it. It don't work otherwise. Say yes and live happily ever after. Or use AnyDVD. The author is telling you not to use both.

Regards

[kis2005]

version 1.4 issue where the it runs into an error. I can only debug or close it and it won't run. I'm not sure if it is the program or th system or both, but I just used it on 3 dics and only ran into it on the 4th after I updated from 1.3 to 1.4. I tried 1.3 again and I ended up with the same problem again. I rebooted the system a few times and still nothing. Any ideas?

[linx05]

I know that blutach but I find it very annoying having the dialog coming up every time. I prefer to use AnyDVD but every now and then I open up these freeware programs and have a go at it. I think there should be another, less annoying way.

[kis2005]

linx05 - I find this prog very helpful especialy with ACroOs discs, but even with Ripguard ones, I normally run them through FixVTS, so with RipIt$me, with basically one click, it rips with DVDD, cleans with FixVTS, and then opens DVD Shrink for me and waits from me to tell it what to do (movie only or whatever) and with ACroOs dics, it will create a PSL2 file and load automatically, so it is a great little tool to automate these tasks and other than this glitch I had this morning (which could be the prog or something on my system?) it has worked well for the last couple of weeks. So basically I like it and it works great for me and you can't beat the price.

[WarDog]

I know that blutach but I find it very annoying having the dialog coming up every time. I prefer to use AnyDVD but every now and then I open up these freeware programs and have a go at it. I think there should be another, less annoying way.
Are you that damn lazy you can't exit out of AnyDVD for a moment to let RI4M do it's thing?
I am sure the author is not going to re-write their program because you wont use your mouse!

[blutach]

@kis2005 - Do you have any prog running that has a known conflict. See the bottom of the user guide. Maybe clear out your INI file in Application Data/Ripit4me and try again?

Maybe you got a corrupt download. Try to download it again.

Regards

[kis2005]

I'm not running any on-the-fly-decryption and it was working fine until I changed DVDs and a newer version download poped up and I installed it and then it wouldn't run, but I was able to running the progs one at a time without the use of RipIt4Me.

INI file in Application Data/Ripit4me - is this a file to delete and if so, what is the path normally?

[blutach]

C:\Docs and Settings\"XP Username"\Appln Data\Ripit4me (it's a hidden folder).

You can also try a system restore to a day or so ago - if you have installed some new software that might conflict. And then re-install the new version.

Regards

[jeanl]

kis2005,
How does RipIt4Me hang? Does it crash? Does it hang (stop responding)? Is it even lauching DVD Decrypter? Can you post the log in the target rip folder, this would tell us at which point it crashed. I'm wondering if it's a DVD Decrypter problem...
jeanl

[kis2005]

blutach - removing the INI file did the trick.

jeanl - it wouldn't launch DVDD, just a pop-up asking to debug or close.

Thanks for the assistance, I'm glad it was a easy fix. It's a great prog and does automatically what I've been doing manually.

Thanks again.

[blutach]

Don't ask me why it did the trick - lucky guess on my part. It must have been somehow corrupted.

Glad you got it working mate :)

Regards

[jeanl]

Blutach, you're the only one corrupted here!
:D :D :D :D
Jeanl

[blutach]

That's awfully close to a rule 4 strike mon ami!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D

Regards

[jeanl]

pfiuuuuu! close one!
:D

[kis2005]

I believe there is a rule of having to much fun, you two. Now don't let it happen again.

[BigDid]

pfiuuuuu! close one!
:D
:)
You could/should have used the word addicted (to RipIt4Me) instead.
:D

To be constructive thanks to jeanl for his useful Menushrink; and thanks for blutach to have linked RipIt4Me (and to let jeanl survive, accessoirement).

Did

[blutach]

jeanl's progs are some of the best going around - I think all 3 are just fantastic and (not to discount the others but) DVDSubEdit is simply amazing.

Regards

[linx05]

linx05 - I find this prog very helpful especialy with ACroOs discs, but even with Ripguard ones, I normally run them through FixVTS, so with RipIt$me, with basically one click, it rips with DVDD, cleans with FixVTS, and then opens DVD Shrink for me and waits from me to tell it what to do (movie only or whatever) and with ACroOs dics, it will create a PSL2 file and load automatically, so it is a great little tool to automate these tasks and other than this glitch I had this morning (which could be the prog or something on my system?) it has worked well for the last couple of weeks. So basically I like it and it works great for me and you can't beat the price.
Thanks for your opinion.

Are you that damn lazy you can't exit out of AnyDVD for a moment to let RI4M do it's thing?
I am sure the author is not going to re-write their program because you wont use your mouse!
Breaking rule #4. I could say the same thing about you regarding the term, "RI4M" ;). I just find it annoying. He/she/they wouldn't have to re-write the program. He allowed the scroll bar to be able to scroll. Same thing I guess, to make it easier for other people. It was just a suggestion from me, no need to jump down my throat about it ok? :)

[cynthia_old]

@ linx05

Just curious - will not the fact that you are running AnyDVD at the same time as DVD Decrypter be a problem?

Two decrypting programs at the same time = problems?

[linx05]

I'm not having any problems cynthia_old. I rip with AnyDVD/DVD Decrypter and sometimes I use Ripit4me. It is just the pop up box that annoys me since I have AnyDVD running all the time. I would prefer it if it was like ImgBurn and just put a line in the log instead. Then I can just disable AnyDVD.

[cynthia_old]

I don't use AnyDVD so I'm not familiar with how it works.

So If I understand you right - if you have AnyDVD installed on the computer - it is impossible to use Ripit4me? Could be good to know.

[linx05]

No, I'm saying when I have AnyDVD installed I get a message box popping up every time to kill it. I find it annoying and would like it to be changed to the way ImgBurn does it (for example).

EDIT:
- Added check for AnyDVD and DVD43, with an option to (brutally) kill the process before running RipIt4Me.From the change log.

[CWR03]

So If I understand you right - if you have AnyDVD installed on the computer - it is impossible to use Ripit4me? Could be good to know.
AnyDVD is another CSS-breaking program that runs in the background on Windows - you can actually copy and paste the files straight from your DVD to your hard drive in Explorer while AnyDVD is running. It causes problems with other decrypting programs, but it appears (as I haven't yet tried it) that RipIt4Me detects and prompts you to close it so it can do its thing unfettered.

[nwg]

There is no guarantee that AnyDVD will leave DVD Decrypter unaffected. It will likely cause problems during the rip which will cause a bad rip as they are both DeCSS programs. For the sake of might have to re-do the rip, surely deactivating AnyDVD when RipIt4Me runs is best?

If you really want AnyDVD on all the time. Then, don't use RipIt4Me and just use AnyDVD.

[blutach]

@linx05 - I'll decide who breaks the rules, not you, OK? Cut the flaming out.

Regards

[blutach]

BTW: I have AnyDVD installed (although not running in the background) and I never get the message from RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/). You'll only get the message if AnyDVD/DVD43 is actually running as a process.

Regards

[linx05]

I know that blutach.

It is just the pop up box that annoys me since I have AnyDVD running all the time. I would prefer it if it was like ImgBurn and just put a line in the log instead. Then I can just disable AnyDVD.

EDIT: I think everyone is missing my point. I'll just leave it to the developer of RipIt4Me...

[blutach]

Well, this does it for you automatically in a single click. No need to disable it by exiting, RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) does this for you.

Each to his own, I guess.

Regards

[BigDid]

@ linx05
Just curious - will not the fact that you are running AnyDVD at the same time as DVD Decrypter be a problem?
Two decrypting programs at the same time = problems?
Hello,

If I recall correctly there is a thread somewhere here giving the how to continue using DvdD with newer protections. It was instructing to use Anydvd (or dvd43) with DvdD and in DvdD settings just uncheck "remove structure protection" so that anydvd could take care of that part...

Did'nt try it myself though :)

Did

[WarDog]

If anybody here goes back to the days of DVDD when it was being updated would know that LUK would be the first to tell you DO NOT run AnyDVD or DVD43 in the background while his program was ripping a dvd because these programs interfered.
Now since DVDD is no longer being updated it needs help from other programs and yes you can set the settings in DVDD for AnyDVD to work, but the author of AnyDVD had to write his/her program to work with DVDD and thank LUK for the simple click setup provisions in his program.
Now the author of RI4M is telling you in the guide (if you have read it you would know this) that his/her program will not work with AnyDVD or DVD43 running in the background and if RI4M detects them running the program flags you to kill it so you can rip your dvd without any conflicts.
So instead of writing all this BS that RI4M does this or that but should do this, just follow the programs instructions. If the ripping programs you normally use will not rip the dvd and you would like to give RI4M a shot, then exit out of these programs first before doing so and give it a shot and I think you will like the final outcome.

[feedback]

Hello,

If I recall correctly there is a thread somewhere here giving the how to continue using DvdD with newer protections. It was instructing to use Anydvd (or dvd43) with DvdD and in DvdD settings just uncheck "remove structure protection" so that anydvd could take care of that part...

Did'nt try it myself though :)

Did
The thread you are alluding to is Located HERE. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=667229#post667229)

Regards,

[weaver4]

I don't like it when a free program tells me to turn off my $50 program because it does the same thing. It makes me feel like I wasted my money.:sly: :sly:

[WarDog]

@weaver4

I would not say you wasted $50.00 because AnyDVD in it's own wrights is a damn good program and in my book the best commercial ripper on the market, but RI4M will do the same thing and for some (the financially strapped) that is good because it is free and a very big thank you to the author for that.

[blutach]

I guess, RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) sets certain DVD Decrypter settings which are not compatible with anydvd or dvd43. Or more likely, does not unset those settings which enable you to use DVD Decrypter and anydvd together.

@weaver - then either don't use RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) or get over it. Sometimes technology comes along which for some reason is free and does as good a job as the priced technology. I know which one I'll go for.

But, if I'd just bought a car and won the same one in the lottery, I'd feel I'd wasted my money, too, so I understand what you are saying. Bringing it back into perspective, if you'd bought MenuEdit just before PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) integrated menu editing into its free app, I guess you'd feel the same way.

Regards

[JimS]

...
I wanted to watch a DVD movie I had backed up some time ago.
The original has since become damaged beyond repair.
The backup copy also had some zits and would stop at one place.
So I ripped the backup using RipIt4Me.
I just finished watching the backup of the backup.
All looked good on TV except one delete of a second or two.
RipIt4Me is great, especially for a lazy old man like me.

@blutach
Off topic.
How did you get your animated avatar to install in this forum.
I tried with a 69x69 pixel, 13.9kb gif file and was told nogo since it was animated.
BTW, I think your advice to weaver is spot on.
...

[blutach]

I uploaded the av ages ago Jim. Wasn't an issue. Maybe the chief instituted new rules on animated avs lately.

Regards

[deuce2]

I used RipIt4Me for the first time yesterday and I must say it was good to use DVD Decryptor again. I've been using DVD Fab for a while now to stay up with all of the changes in DVD's. I'm hoping RipIt4Me will allow continuous use of DVD Decryptor for the foreseeable future. NICE

[kurt]

question: is it possible to rip dvds in ifo mode with RipIt4Me?
I didn't find any option in the menu and the guide...

but since it uses dvddecrypter it should be possible, isn't it?

[bourtzovlakas]

@kurt
Did you try "movie only" option?

[kurt]

jep, it works in wizard mode with aktivated "movie only" and if I change (after creating the psl file) file mode to ifo mode in dvddecrypter. :)

[blutach]

That's an interesting point Kurt. For I have long thought that IFO mode is underused yet so powerful for movie only folks. You should need no PSLs if you know which cells not to rip - and the PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) plugin can tell you these in a flash (advanced mode). Then just untick the offending cells and rip away. I'm sure it can get automated and perhaps if the author of RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) reads this thread, he/she might perhaps implement it.

Regards

[WarDog]

@kurt

You can also rip in the full disk mode from the wizard in RI4M and switch to IFO and select your movie, but why?
I don't follow why you are wanting to goto these extra steps to re-import your psl and rip in this mode while choosing movie only mode in RI4M does the samething by ripping in file mode. I am just not seeing your logic here unless you are experimenting with ARccOS and seeing if you can rip this way. As Blutach mentioned you can use the plugin to target the cells that need removing and manually select them or read the IFO's yourself with IFOEdit or PGCEdit and select the appropriate cells to remove and this is more of a challenge in my book.

[bourtzovlakas]

Most of the times, if not always, the protected cells have a different VOBid than the main movie...

[JimS]

Off topic on why blutach has an animated avatar and I can't.

I uploaded the av ages ago Jim. Wasn't an issue. Maybe the chief instituted new rules on animated avs lately.

Regards

And just where may I look for these rules?
I read the FAQ end to end and zip.
Somethings not right here.
Thanks for your reply.

My apoligies to the Forum for this off topic rant.

[kurt]

@kurt

You can also rip in the full disk mode from the wizard in RI4M and switch to IFO and select your movie, but why?
I don't follow why you are wanting to goto these extra steps to re-import your psl and rip in this mode while choosing movie only mode in RI4M does the samething by ripping in file mode. I am just not seeing your logic here unless you are experimenting with ARccOS and seeing if you can rip this way. As Blutach mentioned you can use the plugin to target the cells that need removing and manually select them or read the IFO's yourself with IFOEdit or PGCEdit and select the appropriate cells to remove and this is more of a challenge in my book.
what you say sounds logical, but I have not much experiencce in using pgcedit to find out easily the dummy sectors.

Most of the time I use dvddecrypter + anydvd - I need to rip in Ifo mode. I encode in mpg4 format and every program I use is specified for ifo mode (vsrip, chaptorextract0r)

But during my latest rip dvdd + anydvd produces permanent lags in reading the css encrypted dvd (speed was dropping to zero)

So I gave RipIt4Me a try and it worked (see above). There were no reading issues and the result is AFAIC all right.

Edit: forget what I wrote about the programs wich need that the dvd is decrypted in ifo mode. Now I ripped in oneklick mode simply the main movie as WarDog suggested. The result is exactly what I need :D

[WarDog]

@kurt

Are you using all these other programs just to make a backup dvd and if so why?

[CWR03]

Off topic on why blutach has an animated avatar and I can't.
Your "off topic rant" is becoming a cross-post of this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=113342) in which your question has already been answered.

[kurt]

@kurt

Are you using all these other programs just to make a backup dvd and if so why?
it's a bit OT but I encode 2-3 movies in mpeg4 (XviD) onto 1 DVD-R (5). Sometimes you neeed subs and chapters are fine too. Therefore the other programs...

RipIt4Me is great. The "Movie Only" option is what I was looking for. :)

[blutach]

Given DVD Shrink's ability to re-author, I didn't think movie only would get as much praise as it has, but it sure looks like people wanted it.

Regards

[JimS]

...
Now that "movie only" is provided, I use it always.
And when I'm in Shrink, I can add subtitles, which I like
since my wife talks alot during movies and my ears are weak.
Kudos to the creator of RipIt4Me for adding "movies only".
...

[drs9079]

Hi.
Downloaded Ripit4me last night newest version tried it in wizard mode got to step 3 and it shut down, No explination as yo why , so i went back to pcgedit no problems. Guess i need to spend a little more time with ripit4me to find out why it shut itself down.
P.S. long live the freeware

[m1ckran]

Try looking at the log files in the destination folder. They might give you a clue.

[WarDog]

it's a bit OT but I encode 2-3 movies in mpeg4 (XviD) onto 1 DVD-R (5). Sometimes you neeed subs and chapters are fine too. Therefore the other programs...

RipIt4Me is great. The "Movie Only" option is what I was looking for. :)
2-3 movies on a dvd5 :eek:

Well thanks for the info there kurk, I have never personally played with mpeg4, but 2-3 full length movies on a SL with extras the playback quality must be very poor one would think, expecially on a HDTV. Correct me if I am wrong about that. As I said I have no personal experience with mpeg4.
The price of DVD5's are so cheap these days I don't worry about trying to put several movies on a dvd.

[kurt]

hehe, everyone has its own preferences :)
The mpeg4 codecs improved very well (especially the avc ones) during the last few years. You would be very suprised of the quality maybe. ;)

[Dark-Cracker]

is there a command line option for this tool ? especially to select the PGC number ? and to use it in a batch mode ?

Very nice tool.
Bye.

[weaver4]

2-3 movies on a dvd5 :eek:

Well thanks for the info there kurk, I have never personally played with mpeg4, but 2-3 full length movies on a SL with extras the playback quality must be very poor one would think, expecially on a HDTV. Correct me if I am wrong about that. As I said I have no personal experience with mpeg4.
The price of DVD5's are so cheap these days I don't worry about trying to put several movies on a dvd.

Actually most of the modern codecs (divx, xvid and such) do a good job of compressing a movie in a 3-1 ratio. I do this so I can backup my movies on my harddrive. When I go on a trip I pull over a few movies to my laptop and go. So for my tool stream I use. RipIt4Me->DVD-Shrink->AutoGK(xvid). I use DVD-Shrink without compression to get the main movie, and the audio channels and subtitles I want.

[blutach]

@Dark-Cracker - no. You can use movie only mode to get the VTS of the movie and use DVD Shrink for example (in no compression mode) to get the relevant PGC from there. Would take an extra 3 or 4 minutes to do that.

There's no batch mode - it expects you to feed it DVDs one at a time via your optical drive.

Regards

[blutach]

Just opened RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) and saw there was yet another update. Things happening thick and fast here folks!

What's new?

Added check for the right FixVTS version (currently 1.4)
In wizard mode, added an alert if the user tries to run DVD Shrink without having processed with FixVTS when protected cells are present.
Added preference to automatically save the logs after the wizard or 1-click procedure.
Logs are now saved in subdirectories of RipIt4Me named after the target rip directory. The directories are numbered to avoid overwriting them.
Added alert if there isn't enough space to rip the DVD in the target directory (not checked in Movie-Only mode).
Fixed the UDF code to find file sectors. It now seems to be doing the right thing.
Added 1: lines in first psl file to cover gaps in between files in the VIDEO_TS folder.
Improved the code that finds bogus VTS.
Modified the update code so firewalls can be setup to always let RipIt4Me access the internet.
Fixed a little bug that caused a bogus 1: line to be inserted in the final psl file, for unprotected DVDs.Regards

[m1ckran]

Wow! This "Author with No Name" is as prolific as jdobbs on steroids!

[blutach]

Reminds me of the great Trinity movies - My Name is Nobody. Bloody good stuff.

Regards

[setarip_old]

Improved the code that finds bogus VTS.Sounds like the author (or a representative) is an avid reader ;>}

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=849011#post849011

[WarDog]

I am sure he/she is reading the forums or all these nice little treats we ask for would not be added.
Whoever is reading our wish list, thanks! I am addicted to treats. :D

[setarip_old]

Just re-ripped "Leroy & Stitch", using RipIt4me. Unfortunately, it was not successful at identifying and eliminating the two VERY large useless .VOBs (the two fakes are, VIDEO_TS.VOB=897,974 kb and VTS_01_0.VOB=538,560 kb, as previously also re-confirmed by "Fishman0919")

[bourtzovlakas]

Use MenuShrink...
http://www.videohelp.com/~menushrink/
"Bogus VTS" is not about menu VOBs...
It is about whole VTSs...

[setarip_old]

@bourtzovlakas

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not seeking an alternative solution. If you click on the link I provided in post #151, you'll note that, a while back, I had successfully used DVD95Copy to accomplish this (Despite my post in that thread, it actually took care of BOTH .VOBs, not just the "VIDEO_TS" .VOB).

What I was actually hoping for (which doesn't seem to be the case) is that RipIt4Me would now have incorporated the same logic used by DVD95Copy to automatically eliminate such .VOBs.

[blutach]

@setarip_old - I don't believe the function of RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) is to eliminate detritus. It is a ripper and a darn good one from what my analysis shows.

Other progs such as VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm), PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html), DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php) and indeed MenuShrink (http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/) can blank the junk. Ripit4Me does eliminate bogus VTSs - meaning VTSs that are uneferenced by ARccoS (and which usually have bad pointers in them). These are typcially the last 2 VTSs of the DVD.

You say it doesn't do what DVD95Copy does and blank stuff. Neither does it elminate unwanted streams, cut video, edit menu buttons, transcode to DVD5 etc etc. You are simply hoping for it to do something more than what it does do - rip a DVD properly.

Regards

[WarDog]

@setarip_old

RI4M is not going to eliminate a VIDEO_TS.VOB (VMG) file or a VTS_01_0.VOB (menu) file in a full disk rip. You will only see this in a movie only rip and along with the removal of bogus VTS's as blutach mentioned in his above post on ARccOS protected disks.
You need to understand how RI4M works before you jump on the band wagon to degrade it and saying that it does not work by comparing it to other programs.

[cynthia_old]

The swedish version of Madagascar have a 612 MB VIDEO_TS.VOB file with pure black video.

So I do agree with setarip_old that a function in Ripit4me that could eliminate such a file - would be great.

I don't think the average user know how to get rid of/shrink such a file or even know that it could be removed.

I also think that this problem is pure Disney related.

[WarDog]

@cynthia_old

If this be the case then, RI4M will half to rewrite the original IFO's to exclude the VIDEO_TS.VOB or programs like DVDS will error out with a file not found when importing.

[setarip_old]

@blutach

Hi!You are simply hoping for it to do something more than what it does do - rip a DVD properly.No. Call it wishful thinking - I am simply hoping that the "package", which includes "FixVTS" will be enhanced so that it is capable of removing ALL fake/useless stuff that's included on a DVD - not just the "unreferenced" material that this excellent "package" presently removes.

This would make for more Megs and or Gigs available before compression, without user intervention for, as "cynthia_old" stated,I don't think the average user know how to get rid of/shrink such a file or even know that it could be removed.

Simply put, it is a suggestion for further development.

If, as you suggest, VOBBlanker is capable of automatically (?) identifying and eliminating .VOBs of this nature, perhaps it's simply a matter of the RipIt4Me author, with permission, incorporating it in the "package" in the same manner FixVTS was incorporated.


@WarDog before you jump on the band wagon to degrade itI've said nothing to "degrade" this excellent "package". I've simply suggested that since another program's ripping function is capable of identifying and eliminating "useless" .VOBs, it could well be possible for RipIt4Me to do the same...

[zardiw]

I could care less if the Pope wrote this program as long as he keeps updating it to work on any new copy protections.
I just don't understand what difference it makes who wrote it or where info comes from as long as we get it in a timely manner. I just hope this author doesn't decide to stop updating, crap we need all the free rippers (that work) we can get. :D


LOL...you funny WarDog!!.......I agree completely!!....:popcorn: .....z

[zardiw]

HEY!!...Whoever wrote RipIt4Me........THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........:p:........z

[blutach]

@setarip_old

Simply put, it is a suggestion for further development.Perhaps the author can see it as that then, rather than a comparison of apple and oranges (RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) vs DVD95Copy).

Hopefully, the technology can be incorporated to do this (as the option to remove tiny cells is there), maybe also an option for remove large useless crap. Trouble is, how does a ripper identify junk? It can't view the video. Identifying unreferenced video is not difficult. Harder if it's referenced.

Regards

[cynthia_old]

@cynthia_old

If this be the case then, RI4M will half to rewrite the original IFO's to exclude the VIDEO_TS.VOB or programs like DVDS will error out with a file not found when importing.It is possible to manually delete the VIDEO_TS.VOB file and then run it thru FixVTS and then no problem to open up in DVD Shrink.

Also played the files after FixVTS and no play back problems.

I think ripit4me also uses FixVTS.

[setarip_old]

@blutachTrouble is, how does a ripper identify junk?Certainly not an area of expertise for me but, wouldn't it be a matter of determining if anything in the .IFOs refers to either the LBAs or absolute sectors occupied by the .VOBs?

Also, although it's not a "ripper", I guess your telling me that the answer to my earlier "?" is no, VOBBlanker cannot automatically identify and eliminate such .VOBs.

[manoflogan]

In RipIt4Me, can one use VobBlanker instead of FixVTS

[jeanl]

In RipIt4Me, can one use VobBlanker instead of FixVTS
Sure, why not? But you'll have to start it manually...
jeanl

[blutach]

VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) easily identifies unreferenced material, as does FixVTS (www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS).

It's not just unreferenced material that matters though.

To totally eliminate one of these huge menu VOBs is not hard - you need to zero out a few pointers and tables in the IFOs and move the VOB out of the way. Then do Get VTS Sectors. But why bother? FixVTS (www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS) and VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) do this for you on unreffed material. PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) can also remove completely unneeded menus in a click or 2.

Again, the function of a ripper is to get the stuff onto the hard drive. RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) does this - in full disk mode or movie only mode.

Can enhancements be made? Of course - it seems the author is coming out with a new version every week. Let's see what the future brings.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@blutachVobBlanker easily identifies unreferenced material, as does FixVTS.From what you've mentioned earlier (as well as in another thread), I gather then that these .VOBs do NOT consist of only UNreferenced material.

1) If I've understood that correctly, why are you stating what these programs can do with UNreferenced material, as this would have nothing to do with .VOBs of this nature?

2) If I've misunderstood - and these .VOBs do consist of only UNreferenced material, why is FixVTS from within RipIt4Me NOT identifying and eliminating them?

Further explanation would be greatly appreciated ;>}

[blutach]

I do not own this DVD and can not without the IFOs answer your question. Again, I extend an earlier invitation in regards to this.

Regards

[setarip_old]

Since it seems to now be (or becoming) standard fare for new Disney releases, I'm sure other equally knowledgable members will have direct experience and will share their findings.

Nevertheless, thanks for re-offering - but as I stated before, I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing the .IFOs ;>}

[blutach]

NP setarip_old.

Welcome back everyone after a long outage!!!

Regards

[setarip_old]

I just noticed that fake/useless .VOBs are no longer limited to Disney. SONY recently released "Marilyn Hotchkiss' Ballroom Dancing and Charm School" - and it too includes a substantial fake/useless "VTS_0x_0.VOB"...

[blutach]

This type of authoring is not new. It's usually just "filler" to make your backup lower quality (if you don't get rid of the offending material) and typically found in VIDEO_TS.VOB (but as you have pointed out, doesn't have to be).

Regards

[jm1647]

After my rips to do my backups I always process my rips to get rid of unwanted stuff to just keep the Menu Shrink menus and the 16:9 version of the movie. I don't like movie only backups and I have been doing this since learning the use of editing programs and Menu Shrink to all my backups. So if a particular ripper does not get rid of the unneeded material my backup process usually does.

[zardiw]

I believe there is a rule of having to much fun, you two. Now don't let it happen again.


That's RIGHT...the Fun Police is gonna get you!!!.........:p: z

[blutach]

Another update to 1.4.2.0

What's new?
- Accented characters in the DVD label are now converted to "_".
- Added display of DVD Label in Step 1 (the DVD-ROM is monitored in case you open/close it);
- Fixed a problem with the DVD label code (if there was no DVD, or the label couldn't be found, the previous label was used).
- Fixed a bug in the UDF routine that caused some of the VOB files to not be found in X-men 2 for example.
- Fixed bug that caused older versions of FixVTS (e.g., Beta 1.24) to not be flagged as such
- Fixed bug that prevented RipIt4Me.log from being removed if DVD Shrink was still running at the end of processing.
Regards

[Dark-Cracker]

a bit out of topic, but by curiosity i ask myself why the author doesn't release the source code ?

[WarDog]

I don't even think that off topic post deserves an answer!

[cynthia_old]

Certain movie companies would perhaps love to see the code...

[Dark-Cracker]

yes i suppose you are right, even if each time they update the protection, the plugin is also be updated.
it's just that once the developpement will be stopped nobody could continue it, and we will not see some other free ripper arise (like when the decss code have been displayed) and also some linux library for the dvd will go outdated.

But perhaps (i hope) one day we will see a form of plugin with the list of encrypted sector be integrated in other open source ripper (like the old smartripper or vobdec or vstrip) and not let the hard work go to waste.

By the way a new version is out :


Version 1.4.3.0 (20 July 2006)
Added code to prevent autorun.inf from running when you insert your DVD if RipIt4Me is the foreground window. This should help with issues with DVDs that have an autorun.inf file (such as Basic Instinct 2). Make sure you start RipIt4Me before you insert the DVD.
If your DVD Decrypter settings instruct it to open the tray after a read, RipIt4Me will do that at the end of a successful 1-click run.
Fixed a BOV scanning bug that could cause RI4M to detect many more buttons than really present (X-men 2 for example).
Fixed a bug that could cause RI4M to crash when dealing with certain authoring errors.
Fixed a PSL creation bug that could potentially be serious, but only manifested itself if the menu domain was larger than the title domain.
Fixed the problem that caused the next "Step" window to never appear when the main window was minimized.

[blutach]

Thanks for the info dark-carcker. Have just updated myself. :)

As for development ceasing, it seems we get an update every couple of days!

Regards

[johner23]

I had a lot of trouble making PSL2 file with the PSL2+RIP program. RipIt4Me makes the whole process much easier to handle. It's the best PSL2 program that I know of.

However, using the latest versions of RipIt4Me I was not able to rip clean copy of the WEEDS dvds and the HOWL's MOVING CASTLE dvd. The ripped files would not play with Power DVD which played everything else for me and would not open in DVDShrink. I am completely dumfounded as I already spent several hours trying to make it work.

Weeds is a Showtime TV series and I probably would not want nor need a backup anyway. But the technical challenge really gets me.

Any tip to solve these problems? Maybe in future versions?

Cheers.

[bourtzovlakas]

Post RipIt4Me.log...
It 's in the output folder...

[WarDog]

Any tip to solve these problems? Maybe in future versions?

Cheers.
Are you ripping in wizard or 1-click mode? And again post logs is the best place to start with your problem(s).

[setarip_old]

@johner23

Hi!

RipIt4Me certainly should have absolutely no difficulty with "HOWL's MOVING CASTLE" - It's a Disney release that contains the same old version of (simplistic) "RipGuard" copy protection.

Whatever the reason for your problem, you can instead:

1) Rip "HOWL's MOVING CASTLE" using DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 in "File" mode (select "ALL" files, NOT "movie" files) and

2) Load the rip into VOBBlanker, set a new output directory/folder, select "Process all" and then press the "Process" radiobutton

[bourtzovlakas]

Comparison of RipIt4Me with other ripping solutions

Programs used(default settings)
1)DVDFab Decrypter 2.9.8.1
2)AnyDVD 6.0.3.1(+ripper) trial
3)RipIt4Me 1.4.3.0


Test disk: Rent Region 2 Greek($ony)

a)The output of DVD Fab Decrypter, opens up in Shrink w/o unref material,
but is rejected by DVDRemake Pro 3.5.3...

b)The output of AnyDVD Ripper, does not open in Shrink
and has a few "reds"(warnings) in DVDRemake Pro 3.5.3...

c)The output of RipIt4Me, opens up in Shrink with a small amount of unref material(~1Mb),
and has one "red"(warning) in DVDRemake Pro 3.5.3...


Here are the screenshots from DVDRP and Shrink...
http://zavlakas.googlepages.com/Rent_screenshots.rar

[johner23]

Hummmm....

None of them could get 100% output error free / clean to be worked using shrink and others tools without any problem? :(

I wonder if those guys who create such protections will be able to update them about each week and give us more and more trouble to make our back-ups... :sly:

Cheers

[bourtzovlakas]

The output of RipIt4Me is tested and trouble-free...

[kis2005]

RI4M is crashing when I go to rip. It was working last night, but I just updated to newest version and it just crashes on me in one click mode after I tell it what folder to rip to. I tried deleting the INI file; checked vor adware, spyware, and viruses without any luck. I'm currently using PGC Edit's PSL2 Wizard and it is working fine. Any ideas?

[jeanl]

Can you post the RipIt4Me.log? This might give us an idea of what's crashing?
Jeanl

[blutach]

Errors such as "Cell command not assigned" are harmless. "Infinite loop" is a programming fault - by design. I have seen IFOs like this a lot where it is just a test for a register which can not possibly be true. The code is harmless.

Of more worry is AnyDVD not being able to be loaded in DVD Shrink/Recode. I expect Slysoft will remedy this soon. Perhaps it needs to update its ripper to FixVTS (www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS) 1.401

And DVD Fab Decrypter obviously still has a way to go in terms of compliance - we can hope that it catches up soon.

Regards

[bourtzovlakas]

Of more worry is AnyDVD not being able to be loaded in DVD Shrink/Recode. I expect Slysoft will remedy this soon. Perhaps it needs to update its ripper to FixVTS (www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS) 1.401


Not an option, according to this...
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1487507&postcount=8

[kis2005]

Can you post the RipIt4Me.log? This might give us an idea of what's crashing?
Jeanl

This isn't much, but here you go:

I 17:28:27: RipIt4Me Version 1.4.3.0
I 17:28:27: Starting 1-click Ripping Procedure at 17:28:08
I 17:28:27: Ripping mode: Full rip
I 17:28:27: RemoveProtectedCells on
I 17:28:27: RemoveTinyCells = off
I 17:28:27: RemoveLastVTS = on
I 17:28:27: Opening IFOs -- Waiting for drive to be ready
I 17:28:27: DVD Volume Label: DUDE
I 17:28:27: Loading VIDEO_TS

That's when the "Debug or Close" window comes up.

Thanks

[blutach]

What's the DVD kis2005?

Regards

[kis2005]

Dude Where's My Car (2001) Not what I would call a new title.

[blutach]

Nah - me neither. Must be some sort of software conflict.

Regards

[kis2005]

Any idea what the conflict could be? It worked up until I did the upgrade tonight. The only problem I had was with the INI file that you in fact caught. Unfortunatley I tried installing the version before last, but it still did the same thing. I'm sure it's on my end, but what could it be?

[blutach]

@kis2005

Have you tried wizard mode? I had something funny happen to me today in 1 click mode - which was reproducible. RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) stopped just a little after calling DVD Decrypter with an error that it couldn't find the PSL (it was in fact looking for the final PSL). Concurrently, I got a message that my wireless keyboard was low on battery (it isn't). So, I wonder if something has popped a keystroke or 2 in the buffer and somehow stopped the process? This behaviour didn't happen on my laptop (where I don't have a wireless keyboard).

Anyway, what I'm saying is that Wizard mode should give you more control over the process.

You might also read the very end of the guide, where known software conflicts are mentioned.

http://www.digital-digest.com/~blutach/gl1.gif

Regards

[kis2005]

I'll give it a try. Thanks.

[kis2005]

blutach - I just tried the Wizard mode with no luck; and when I go into Debug (I have MS C++ installed but no nothing about it) is comes up with the following:

"unhandled exception in RipIt4Me.exe 0xc0000005: Access violation"

I also checked and found Auto Play enabled, which I always have it off, so something enabled it again, so I when in to Regedit and stopped it.

Is it posible that say Nero might be causing and issue? I have 6.6.0.16 installed.

Thanks again for the help.

[kis2005]

I have isolated it to Sony DRU-700A drive, which for some reason isn't liked by RI4M. RI4M will work with my other DVD Rom but not the Sony. All of the programs run by RI4M work when used manually / independently. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the drive and checking the firmware, but nothing worked. So for now I'll just use the other drive or replace the Sony with a new LiteOn which works great in one of the other PCs.

Thanks.

[bourtzovlakas]

That 's strange...

[jeanl]

kis2005, you can access older versions of RI4M there
http://www.ripit4me.org/archive.html
You could try the previous versions and see if they also fail... This is really strange, but hey, it's windows... Anything can happen. :(
jeanl
BTW, Sony strikes again! :D :D

[kis2005]

jeanl - The Sony drive has been OK and better than an HP that I put in my wife's PC, but I wouldn't buy either again. I like the LiteOn I have in my other system hands down.

I'll try a different version and see if that'll work. I have tried the version before last with out any luck, but it could have been an Autoplay issue so I'll try it agian. Thanks for the link. If it is just a drive issue, I'll get a LiteOn and call it a day, but at this point I still can use it with the DVD Rom and I do like using RI4M in 1 click mode ...I use it for all of them. It's a great program.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks again all.

[jeanl]

I still think something's wrong with RI4M, it shouldn't crash, but tell you what's wrong! But it's good that you found the cause and the solution!
I'm happy with my new Pioneer DVR-111, fastest ripper I"ve used so far!
jeanl

[kis2005]

jeanl - I don't know what the actual cause to my problem is for sure but it is still posible that the drive is on it's way out. I you the heck out of it. I just swapped the Sony with the LiteOn and the LiteOn worked just fine. I then retried the Sony and it crashed in the same place, so I'll just replace it with another. At least I can say that the problem has stayed consistant, because I hate one that you have to chase all over.

Thanks.

[blutach]

I thought a LIteOn was a rebadged SONY - or vice versa. Depends on firmware, I guess.

Be interesting to see how RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) performs on your newer drive.

And if the author is reading this, I'd like to know how I can save my 1-click problems referred to above.

Regards

[Mike89]

I know that blutach but I find it very annoying having the dialog coming up every time. I prefer to use AnyDVD but every now and then I open up these freeware programs and have a go at it. I think there should be another, less annoying way.

That just totally makes no sense to me. The program does not want AnyDVD to be running (for compatibility reasons). You won't turn AnyDVD off before you run the program and then complain that it's telling you to do so? I also use AnyDVD. I think it's a dam cool feature to remind me to do that, if I forgot to turn it off, and then does it for me.

Anyway, I think this it truly a great program. I don't have one single negative thing to say about it, it has worked flawless for me. Since I started my whole DVD burning experience with DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink, I certainly feel right at home using this program. This was like made to order for me. Kudos to the dude who wrote this program, and keep up the good work, whoever you are!

[jm1647]

I fired up RI4M earlier and there is another update :thanks:


Version 1.4.4.0 (28 July 2006)
Improvements:
- Added ISO mode: Ripping in ISO mode allows you to do a 1-for-1 copy of your DVD. The ISO isn't "cleaned up" so it is likely that tools that can open ISOs for editing (such as DVD Shrink) will still have problems with it.
However, it should be possible to burn the ISO using ImgBurn and because the DVD isn't modified, the layer break will be right (for Double-Layer ISOs).
- Added preference to remove unplayed cells in menus (provided they have no buttons and no commands). This can be useful to remove the long black video sometimes found in VIDEO_TS.VOB and other menu vobs. Enable it in the preferences as the default is off.
- Added a warning in the log if an autorun.inf file is found at the root of the DVD.
- Added code to save the original and modified IFOs in a subdirectory along with the logs.
- Added a key in the .ini file DirWhereToSaveLogs= where you can specify the base directory where to save logs and IFOs.
- Turned "Remove tiny cells" on by default.
- Menus commands and program tables are now always cleaned up.
- Added handling of preferred video mode (sprm(14)) when the structure is analysed.
- Improved the detection and cleanup of bogus cells in protected PGCs.
- Added better handling of scratched DVDs. When a scratch is detected, the user can re-rip the affected file(s) automatically, using the updated PSL.
Fixes:
- Fixed a bug that caused the final PSL to still include areas that correspond to scratches (it should not).
- The code to prevent autorun.inf from running was not enabled if the Wizard step 1 window was active instead of the main one. This has been fixed.
- Fixed a bug that could cause some of the 1: lines in the final PSL file to be omitted
- Improved/Fixed the code that removes bad cells and unused menu cells:
. Fixed a bug that could cause bogus commands (jumps to non-existent cells/pg/chapters) to not be fixed.
. Fixed a bug that could cause bogus chapters/programs to not be removed.
- RI4M now requires FixVTS 1.403 to be installed.

[setarip_old]

Added preference to remove unplayed cells in menus (provided they have no buttons and no commands). This can be useful to remove the long black video sometimes found in VIDEO_TS.VOB and other menu vobs.Yes ;>}

[kis2005]

Where will the madness end? Thanks to whom ever is the author.

[blutach]

I think someone is listening to you setarip!

Regards

[kurt]

Version 1.4.5.0 (31 July 2006)

* When a DVD is detected as scratched, RI4M will offer to re-rip as many times as the user wishes if read errors are still found. In this case, the number of read retries is adjusted to 20.
* Fixed a problem that could occur if a DVD title declared a bogus number of chapters. This will make RipIt4Me more robust to intentional authoring errors.
* The log has been cleaned up.
http://www.ripit4me.org

[chew1138]

I updated to the 1.4.5 version and Decrypter wouldn't auto-start. It gave me something to OK through and then I had to manually start Decrypter. A bug in the latest version?

[setarip_old]

@chew1138

Did you check the "Settings">>"Preferences" to make certain it's identified the proper location for DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 (as well as FixVTS and DVD Shrink)?

[jeanl]

Maybe you clicked "Wizard" instead of 1-click?
Jeanl

[chew1138]

I used the One Click and I've had no problems with this program and Decrypter for many many versions now.

Maybe it was just that particular disc. I'll try a few others.

[LARRYB]

Bultach,
Please help if you can. I have tried to send email to the contact address and gt a mail delivery failure. I need to resolve some issues with trying to post a new thread. I gcan reply but when trying to post a new thread I get kicked to the sign-in/reg page.


I am trying to post a issue with the new movie Vendetta.

can you email me at larryb AT itis.com


Larryb

[blutach]

Larry B - I have moved your previous posts to our Site Suggestions/Help forum, where doom9/Swede will be able to help.

You might like to clear your cookies, sweep for viruses/spyware etc.

Re Vendetta - does RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) not work? I have heard it works fine on this.

Regards

[setarip_old]

Just a note to mention that the current version of RipIt4Me did an excellent job of identifying and eliminating the "fake"/useless almost 450Mb "VIDEO_TS.VOB" included on the new R1 Disney release "Shaggy Dog (2006)"

[laserfan]

I have generally used DVDD alone, and only once or twice needed PgcEdit and the PSL2_plugin. Lately I've tried RipIt4Me and really like its logging function but it begs a question:

On even those discs where DVDD alone will work fine, when use w/RI4M it creates a .psl and then DVDD imports e.g.:

W 17:42:00 26 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
W 17:42:00 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.

Since DVDD would also have ripped this disc WITHOUT any 'suspects' having been identified, what is RI4M doing that is "better" than DVDD alone? Or maybe somehow it is determined by DVDD that altho 'suspect' areas exist, no "Dummy sectors" are necessary? Can someone explain this particular benefit of RI4M?

[blutach]

I don't think there is any benefit - I suspect it is simply the way RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) works. If you notice, it creates 2 PSL files - the initial one gives the "suspect areas", the final one will be blank for non-ARccOS/RG DVDs. The fact that DVD Decrypter reports the areas as suspect only means it has imported the initial PSL with the defined areas.

Regards

[laserfan]

...If you notice, it creates 2 PSL files - the initial one gives the "suspect areas", the final one will be blank for non-ARccOS/RG DVDs...Hmmm, actually, no, I don't see 2 PSL files, only one that shows (in this case) 26 lines i.e.

PSL2
0:0x98FFE025,0,RipIt4Me-SOPRANOS
1:260,295
1:280311,318857
1:318858,504351
1:504352,771766
.
.
etc.

How are "initial" and "final" files named? Maybe I have a setting wrong?

[cynthia_old]

You need to perform a full disc backup (not ISO Mode or movie only mode) to see the two .psl files.

[laserfan]

You need to perform a full disc backup (not ISO Mode or movie only mode) to see the two .psl files.Thanks, that was it (ISO mode, that is). I also found the FAQ (!) which is helpful. :o

[blutach]

@laserfan - I'm sorry; I'm not as familiar with this prog as I should be. I only use full disk mode and noticed the 2 PSLs. Need to do some more experimenting to get fully up to speed :o

Regards

[johner23]

Hi, dear all...

RipIt4Me can have support or deal with the FluxDVD protection dvd's / files and similar products just like CinemaNow?

--> http://www.fluxdvd.com/

--> http://www.cinemanow.com/ (ilustrative)

If not yet, the author can put these feature in this program, please? ;)

Thanks.

Best regards.

[cynthia_old]

You rent them from cinemanow...

[johner23]

You rent them from cinemanow

For sure. But, if I want to make a back up copy that I bought from them?

Do I still have a DRM'ed file in my hands after download, despite I 've paid them to get one movie copy for myself?

RipIt4Me can't handle such kind of protection and give a "clean" or "unprotected" file at the end of the ripping process or whatever?

Edited:

fluxDVDs use a Microsoft Windows Media compatible DRM scheme that allows easy integration into exiting server- and client side MS DRM environments. Burned DVD-Rs use an updateable, sophisticated DMCA copy protection.

The process to apply DRM to fluxDVD files is identical to applying Windows Media DRM to WMV files and the license generation works the same way.

However, for fluxDVD files some additional rights such as the rights to convert it to (optionally copy protected) DVD-R media are available.

Well, that's the problem. :(

Just like WMA and WMV...

Regards.

[blutach]

@johner23

I don't think that RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) is set up to do this. Consult the DRM thread for possible solutions.

Regards

[kis2005]

The other day I ripped a movie and set FixVTS to clean up in backup mode. I was having a real hard time getting it cleaned (Ultraviolet UR R1) so that the audio wasn't out of synch when I ran it through Auto GK. The issue I noticed was when RI4M opened up the folder with the initial ripped files and not the FixVTS Backup folder. It is not that big of an issue if you fix in place, but i wanted to leave the orignal files seperate in case I had to clean them with something else.


Just wanted to share that here.

Thanks

[blutach]

The issue I noticed was when RI4M opened up the folder with the initial ripped files and not the FixVTS Backup folder.Not sure what you mean. RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) works on the original disk and when FixVTS is called it runs and processes.

At the end, you have output opened in DVD Shrink, but that will not serve your purposes - I think it is just either a check for 1-clickers, or a convenience for DVD Shrink users.

Can you not simply take your FixVTS output and open that in AutoGK. By the way, what is wrong with processing in place?

Regards

[jeanl]

Also, remember that when you process with AutoGK, and if you want to avoid audio/video delay, be sure to rip in movie-only mode as this removes all the bogus cells at the start of the movie (they're not always removed in full mode).
If they're not removed, a "bug" (not really a bug, let's say a limitation) in DGIndex/AutoGK might introduce a delay between the audio and the video...
jeanl

[blutach]

Well, seems like this is old news, but version 1.4.6.0 is out.

Here are the changes and they look extensive:

Version 1.4.6.0 (9 August 2006)


The movie-only mode now produces a fully compliant DVD with a very simple structure. This allows opening the output in DVD Shrink (full-backup or reauthor modes) as well as other backup programs (Nero Recode or DVD Rebuilder for example).
There is a new movie+menus mode which rips the movie titleset and keeps functional menus, but blanks and bypasses all non-movie titlesets. This will be useful for people who like menus for accessing chapters but don't want to keep extras/previews etc.
In both of the above modes, if your DVD contains a wide-screen and a full-screen version of the same movie, RipIt4Me asks you to pick which one to rip.
Added debug code to help fix crashes: If RipIt4Me crashes, the next time you start it, it will ask you to post a special debug log to the forum. Please, do it, as this is the only way the bug will be fixed.
Added abort button to quickly quit DVD Decrypter.
Fixed the bug that prevented a Z: drive from being detected.
The logs are now (optionally) saved before the DVD tray is (optionally) opened.
Removed the message "Couldn't find absolute start sector for VTS ... " as it seems to confuse people and is usually nothing to worry about.Regards

[nwg]

I just done movie and menu mode. It is fantastic. It remove all extras as well as all the crap before the menu starts. I don't need to use VobBlanker anymore to blank extras. It just requires Pgcedit to remove button if I want to.

I am also testing the improved movie mode now. I am doing a DVD with the movie in VTS 4. It is ripping at the moment and is still VTS 4.

After the DVD has been processed. It has been renamed from VTS 4 to VTS 1.

It loads fine into Shrink (full disc mode). Up to now, only Shrink reauthor mode worked as Shrink had to process the files again to make them VTS 1. This is now not needed.

This is a extract of the log. Notice the rename VTS bit which occurs after ripping has finished.

Now creating a simple DVD structure for the movie
Renaming VTS
Cleaning up movie PGC(s)
Removing useless PGCs
Removing menu
Saving VTS_01_0.IFO
Now cleaning VIDEO_TS.IFO
Removing menu
Discarding unused titles
Clearing precommands
Removing VMG_PTL_MAIT and VMG_TXTDT_MG
Saving VIDEO_TS.VOB
Running FixVTS to cleanup DVD
Starting DVD Shrink
Done at 17:51:52
Elapsed time: 00:14:05

[jeanl]

Pretty cool!
Jeanl

[setarip_old]

It's most impressive that we now have a freeware solution that makes available many, if not most, of the one-click options users of (commercial) DVD95Copy have had for quite some time...

[laserfan]

It feels like an army of people must be working on this thing!

[blutach]

@nwg - I did a movie+menus only test last night. You are right but there is one extra thing to consider.

If a trailer or a warning is in the menus domain, it will not be removed. But, by golly VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) will remove it very quickly.

Or use Kill Playback in PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) and call FixVTS directly from PgcEdit to process the domain after you have finished (very very fast).

Regards

[nwg]

If a trailer or a warning is in the menus domain, it will not be removed. But, by golly VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) will remove it very quickly.

Regards

That is true. I just found out when doing Running Scared R2. It left the copyright at the beginning but took out four trailers before the menu.

It still saves quite a bit of time.

[BigDid]

... If a trailer or a warning is in the menus domain, it will not be removed. But, by golly VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) will remove it very quickly.

Or use Kill Playback in PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) and call FixVTS directly from PgcEdit to process the domain after you have finished (very very fast).
Hi Les,

What would be the easier and simplest (/simpliest? What a poor foreigner has to do not to use "best" :devil: ) way to go between:
Vobblanker
PGCEdit+FixVTS ?
for noob like me.

Did

[blutach]

Well, I do a lot of editing so PgcEdit is natural to me. It calls FixVTS in just the current domain (Tools menu) and all you need to do is press cleanup. After closing FixVTS, you are returned to PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html).

However, you need to know what you're doing in PgcEdit. It's a matter of finding the PGC (or cell) and marking it for blanking - the trace feature with the preview on helps enormously here.

Whereas in VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm), you have tiny preview, but have to go hunting round the DVD for the cells to blank.

All in all, due to trace mode, I'd use PgcEdit.

As well, if you have it, DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php) can do this in a breeze and you need only export modifed files.

But, I suspect PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) is simplest.

Regards

[BigDid]

... All in all, due to trace mode, I'd use PgcEdit.

As well, if you have it, DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php) can do this in a breeze and you need only export modifed files.No I use freeware whenever possible.

But, I suspect PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) is simplest.
So I will give PgcEdit a try. Thanks.
Any PGCEdit guide/tutorial to recommend for that particular task?

Did

[blutach]

I think there is something on the site about killing playback in PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html), written by 2COOL, IIRC. And in the user manual.

But it's find the PGC, Press Ctrl-K. Can't be simpler. When you've finished in the domain, Tools --> FixVTS

Regards

[laserfan]

But it's find the PGC, Press Ctrl-K. Can't be simpler. When you've finished in the domain, Tools --> FixVTSAt the risk of further beating this OT "dead horse" you're saying that following "Kill Playback" the use of FixVTS removes that program element (and its now-wasted space) completely from the resulting VIDEO_TS set?

[blutach]

Kill playback will offer to remove a menu's cells and convert it to a dummy.

FixVTS takes the now unreferenced material (if it is used nowhere else in the domain) and kills it, yes.

Further questions should be raised in IFO/VOB Editors.

Regards

[BigDid]

:thanks:

... Further questions should be raised in IFO/VOB Editors.

Unless the author(s) reading this thread - HI author(s), great job, all the best - think it's a good suggestion and do-able in Ripit4me. :)

Did

[nwg]

Version 1.4.7.0 (12 August 2006)


- There is a new tool menu that allows you to launch your favorite software after the rip (provided the application can open a DVD passed as an argument in its command line). The tool menu includes an option to open the last target rip folder used.
- There is now a preference drop-down selector to pick the default rip mode (Full DVD, Movie+Menus, etc). This can be changed on a rip-by-rip basis in Step 1.
- Added more debug info and more checks to avoid crashes (thanks to everyone who posted their debug logs, it's VERY useful! Keep them coming!)
- The crash debug message no longer pops up if you have 2 instances of RipIt4Me opened at the same time.
- Added check for DVD Region Free at startup as it can create a conflict.
- Added display of region code in the log.

[jinjin_jp]

I tried RipIt4Me.
Error occured, when click "defailt" button of preferenses.
Is this known problem?

I could set preferenses manually, and suceeded to backup ARccOS DVD.

When I started RipIt4Me next time, the message popuped "It looks like RipIt4Me crashed the last time you ran it."
I looked at DebugLog.txt, but there is nothing about this problem.

[blutach]

It seems to have been introduced in 1.4.7

I would stay clear of clicking default for now.

Regards

[jinjin_jp]

@blutach
I tried ver.1.4.6.0. There is no problem of defaut button as you say.

Regards

Ｅｄｉｔ

[jinjin_jp]

Ｉ tried to compare with IFO which precessed by PgcEdit plugin v.2.14 with using Bewitched R-1.

processed by RipIt4Me (before processed by FixVTS)
PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [01:42:05.27 / 30 fps] (Programs: 28) (Cells: 32) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.18 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:00.18] [Frames: 18] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/yes]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.18 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:01.06] [Frames: 36] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/yes]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.18 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:01.24] [Frames: 54] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/yes]
[Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/23] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:23.25 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:25.19] [Frames: 769] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/ no/ no]
[Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/24] : time: 00:03:04.03 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:03:29.22] [Frames: 6292] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
processed by PgcEdit plugin (after crap, before processed by FixVTS)
PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [01:42:04.14 / 30 fps] (Programs: 28) (Cells: 30) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/22] : time: 00:00:00.11 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:00.11] [Frames: 11] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/23] : time: 00:00:23.25 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:24.06] [Frames: 726] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/24] : time: 00:03:04.03 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:03:28.09] [Frames: 6249] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
Why is there such difference? (in spite that both seem to be noproblem.)
Does RipIt4Me remain tiny cells which have cell command except for Cell 01 ([V/C Id: 1/ 1] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] have cell command, and [V/C Id: 1/22] doesn't have it.)?

[Husky55]

Hi you all,

Some time ago, I posted at videohelp.com where I was a long time member about my experience with Rip4Me. I had tried to use something called PSL2 /RIP or PLS2 Creator and was having a problem creating PSL file. There was a tutorial and I was frankly surprised at my difficulty. The Italian author thought it was childplay and it probably was.

Anyway, I tried Rip4Me and I was frankly relieved that this program created the PSL file automatically and so it seems effortlessly.

However I did have some problems with the 2 WEEDS DVDs (WEEDS is a Showtime program) and I posted at the videohelp.com forum.

JOHNER23 told me to post the log file here so that knowledgeable (developers) people would be able to make the program better.

This is the reason for my posting here.

But I did not know there was a waiting period for 5 days and soon, Weeds became old news and new versions of Rip4Me were published.

I just got a new DVD, Madea's Family Reunion ( I have not seen it yet, but it is not supposed to be good) and for fun I tried to rip this DVD using the latest Rip4Me v.1.4.7.0.

Lo and behold the ripped files crashed Power DVD and DVD Shrink.

Below is the log file:

I 09:45:41: RipIt4Me Version 1.4.7.0
I 09:45:41: Starting Wizard at 09:45:41
I 09:45:41: Ripping mode: Full Rip
I 09:45:41: RemoveProtectedCells on
I 09:45:41: RemoveTinyCells = on
I 09:45:41: RemoveUselessMenuCells = off
I 09:45:41: RemoveLastVTS = on
I 09:45:41:
I 09:45:41: Wizard Step 2: PSL file creation
I 09:45:43: Opening IFOs -- Waiting for drive to be ready
I 09:45:43: DVD Volume Label: MADEAS_FAMILY_REUNION
I 09:45:43: Loading IFOs
I 09:45:43: Region code: 1
I 09:45:45: Done opening IFOs
I 09:45:45: Retrieving sectors from DVD drive
I 09:45:45: CRC32 value = 0xC052B87E
I 09:45:45: Creating Protected Sector List (PSL) file
I 09:45:45: Done creating PSL file
I 09:45:45:
I 09:45:45: Wizard Step 3: Ripping DVD
I 09:45:48: Starting DVD Decrypter
I 09:45:48: Waiting for Decrypter to be ready
I 09:45:52: Done importing the PSL file, now starting ripping...
I 09:57:09: Done ripping ...
I 09:58:37:
I 09:58:37: Wizard Step 3B: Optional cleanup
I 09:58:42: Loading IFOs
I 09:58:42: DVD is region-free
I 09:58:46: Scanning VTS 0 for BOVs
I 09:58:46: Scanning VTS 1 for BOVs
I 09:58:49: Scanning VTS 2 for BOVs
I 09:58:49: Scanning VTS 3 for BOVs
I 09:58:49: Scanning VTS 4 for BOVs
I 09:58:49: Scanning VTS 5 for BOVs
I 09:58:49: Scanning VTS 6 for BOVs
I 09:58:52: Scanning VTS 7 for BOVs
I 09:58:53: Scanning VTS 8 for BOVs
I 09:58:53: Scanning VTS 9 for BOVs
I 09:58:53: Scanning VTS 10 for BOVs
I 09:58:53: Scanning VTS 11 for BOVs
I 09:58:53: Scanning VTS 12 for BOVs
I 09:58:53: Couldn't find VIDEO_TS folder! Are you running Win95 or Win98?
At this point, this program does not run in these OS...
I 09:59:15: Scanning DVD Decrypter log for protected cells
I 09:59:15: There are no protected cells. This DVD does not seem to be protected.
I 09:59:15: Analysing DVD structure
I 09:59:15: MD = 400
I 09:59:15: MV = 4000
I 09:59:15: BOR = 1
I 09:59:15: BON = 1
I 09:59:15: REB = 1
I 09:59:15: BOS = 1
I 09:59:16:
I 09:59:16:
I 09:59:16: Analysis done
I 09:59:16: Cleaning up cell commands
I 09:59:16: Looking for bogus VTS
I 09:59:16: No bogus VTS found
I 09:59:16:
I 09:59:16: Wizard Step 4: FixVTS
I 09:59:22: Running FixVTS to cleanup DVD
I 09:59:22: Checking FixVTS version...
I 09:59:22: Using version: 1.4.0.3 -- All OK
I 10:02:07: Done!

I am a little shocked really because I did use FreeDVD and (as you can see in the log file) FixVTS to clean up the files and PGCEdit to clean up the number of streams in VMGM/VTSI_MAT tables.

The resulting files are all scrambled and completely unusable.

As I said, I really didn't care about a backup for this movie anyway, so I don't really care about ever being able to have a backup.

My posting is really to report real feedback on the performance of Rip4Me on a newer DVD.

:)

To JOHNER23,

I said I would post. Sorry for the delay.

[nwg]

Try using DVD Decryptor on its own with the DVD. It doesn't need RipIt4Me as there are no protected cells.

[cynthia_old]

I 09:58:53: Couldn't find VIDEO_TS folder! Are you running Win95 or Win98?
At this point, this program does not run in these OS...That's your problem?

[nwg]

That's your problem?


Good spot. I didn't see that.

[Husky55]

Good spot. I didn't see that.

Unhappily no, that's not my problem. I am running XP Pro with SP2 and the latest MS patches on an Athlon 64 @3GHz with 1GB of ddr RAM, 2 PATA HDs (500GB), 1 SATA (500GB). 2 NEC 3550,ATI AIW X800XL.

The log obviously recorded the problem Rip4Me had when it tried to rip.

I already used DVD Decrypter stand alone in addition to DVDFab Decrypter with bad results.

:)

[setarip_old]

Hi!I did use FreeDVDYou should NOT be using ANY additional ripping/protection removal programs when using "RipIt4Me"

I just got a new DVD, Madea's Family Reunion ( I have not seen it yet, but it is not supposed to be good)So why would you buy it? ;>}

[Husky55]

Try using DVD Decryptor on its own with the DVD. It doesn't need RipIt4Me as there are no protected cells.

See separate reply above.

Rip4Me did complete the rip although it asked if the system is Win98 or WinMe. I have no idea why it asked that because my system is a XP Pro with SP2 and the latest patches ( automatic update was enabled, in addition to my periodic visit to microsoft.com).

DVD Decrypter could not complete the rip.

FreeDVD reported there were protection in the cells and files (from Rip4Me) which it did removed.

And then Power DVD and DVD Shrink both crashed playing he ripped files.

:)

[Husky55]

Hi!You should NOT be using ANY additional ripping/protection removal programs when using "RipIt4Me"


So why would you buy it? ;>}

1. Only use FreeDVD AFTER Rip4Me. Based on my experience there are protection in the ripped files which showed themselves when encoding or writing.


2. Because of momentary crazy impulse. May be I thought it would be a way to see how bad it is. Still have not see it yet.

:devil:

[setarip_old]

You stated that when using "RipIt4Me":The resulting files are all scrambled and completely unusable.You also stated that:I already used DVD Decrypter stand alone in addition to DVDFab Decrypter with bad results.I'd suggest to you that you have a DVD that is either poorly mastered, dirty, or physically damaged.

I say this because my Region 1 version of this DVD (Actually, the movie's quite well done) has no newer or "special" copy protection.

You should return the DVD to the place of purchase in exchange for a new replacement...

[Husky55]

DVD looks perfect. Just checked under bright sunlight based on your post.

May be tonight we will play this DVD on our Panasonic S97. I almost never run into a defective DVD except rentals.

All our DVDs are region 1 (US).

I guess I can try to rip it again to see if it is repeatable. I really hate to do this, but you said the movie is not that bad.

:)

[Husky55]

I say this because my Region 1 version of this DVD (Actually, the movie's quite well done) has no newer or "special" copy protection.



Can I assume that you have no problem ripping this DVD with Decrypter without any need for Rip4Me?

I will try again if you were successful.

Thanks,

:)

[setarip_old]

Can I assume that you have no problem ripping this DVD with Decrypter without any need for Rip4Me?Yes...

[blutach]

Looking perfect is not being perfect. According to the guide, when RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) detects something is bad (scratched disk), it will tell you.

Here it is is giving you a message that it thinks you might be running a diff OS. From what I have seen on the forums, the problem is that it does not import the PSL under these OSs.

However, if setarip_old has done the same DVD (with the same CRC32?) successfully, then it would seem your DVD is possibly damaged or you had a conflicting program.

I would take his advice and return it for an exchange.

Regards

[blutach]

Ｉ tried to compare with IFO which precessed by PgcEdit plugin v.2.14 with using Bewitched R-1.

Why is there such difference? (in spite that both seem to be noproblem.)
Does RipIt4Me remain tiny cells which have cell command except for Cell 01 ([V/C Id: 1/ 1] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] have cell command, and [V/C Id: 1/22] doesn't have it.)?Two possibilitilities jinjin_jp

1. Remove tiny cells preference is off
2. As you suppose, if a cell command is there, the DVD will play as intended by the ARccOS authors (except the bad ARccOS cells have been removed).

Check your preferences.

Anyway, the process is not over until FixVTS has been run.

Regards

[blutach]

@Husky55

From memory, FreeDVD was just a little region free utility. And would not tell you anything.

If this DVD is not protected and DVD Decrypter can't do it, itself, then the conclusion is that it is damaged.

To see if a DVD has any ARccOS on it, open it in PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) and do this:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/650/findprotectedtitles3eu.png

Regards

[jinjin_jp]

Thanks for reply @blutach

Two possibilitilities jinjin_jp
1. Remove tiny cells preference is off
2. As you suppose, if a cell command is there, the DVD will play as intended by the ARccOS authors (except the bad ARccOS cells have been removed).
Check your preferences.
1.Remove tiny cells preference is on surely, I confirmed before previous post.
2.Doesn't RipIt4Me remove not-unplayed cells?
Certainly [V/C Id: 1/ 2] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] are not shown as unplayed cells by PgcEdit plugin.
(But in fact [V/C Id: 1/ 1] [V/C Id: 1/ 22] are not shown as unplayed cells, too.)
PgcEdit plugin remove tiny cells even if these are not unplayed cells.


Anyway, the process is not over until FixVTS has been run.
[V/C Id: 1/ 2] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] remains after FixVTS runs, with renumbering V/C-ID like below.
PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [01:42:05.27 / 30 fps] (Programs: 28) (Cells: 32) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:00:00.18 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:00.18] [Frames: 18] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/yes]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.18 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:01.06] [Frames: 36] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/yes]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.18 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:01.24] [Frames: 54] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/yes]
[Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:23.25 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:25.19] [Frames: 769] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/ no/ no]
[Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] : time: 00:03:04.03 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:03:29.22] [Frames: 6292] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
And may I ask one more?
RipIt4Me seems not to remove unrefferenced titles, oppositely PgcEdit plugin removes it?

[blutach]

Well, those cells surely are tiny. In order for the author to see exactly what is going on, you'd need to post a zipped copy of your log folder in Application Data/Ripit4Me folder.

However, as you know, you can not do that here, as this folder contains IFOs from a commercial DVD.

Perhaps the official RipIt4Me forum can help more?

And I am sure unreferenced titles are removed, so long as the titles are the last in the title map. So, a VTS can not be removed if title 1 is in it. The titles need to be remapped first.

Regards

[jinjin_jp]

Thanks @blutach.
I'll follow your advise.

Regards.

[Husky55]

My apology to all about my posts.

Blutach and setarip_old,

You are both right and I am an idiot for not recognizing this any sooner. I cannot see any defect in the DVD, but there is something which caused Rip4Me to malfunction. I tried to rip again with DVD Decrypter, no go.

So based on you guys diagnostics I got a new DVD and the rest is history. No problem.

I feel like an utterly fool and I am real sorry for reporting a non existing problem.

Again, my deepest apologies,

[blutach]

No need to apologise. We are all here to help. Only strange thing is that RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) did not report the scratched disk message and tell you where it couldn't rip. In that case, the DVD must have been very badly damaged.

Regards

[jinjin_jp]

Only strange thing is that RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) did not report the scratched disk message and tell you where it couldn't rip.
Is there possibility as below?
RipIt4Me judge as scratch when sectors that inserted dammy by DVDDecrypter is not corresponding to unplayed (unrefferenced) sectors.
DVDDEcrypter inserts dammy according to PSL files, but first PSL file doesn't involve sectors of IFO/BUP/MenuVOB files.
So even if Read Error occured on these files, DVDDEcrypter can't insert dammy sectors, and RipIt4Me can't judge as scratch.
But it's just my guess.

Regards.

[setarip_old]

@Husky55

Glad to hear you're now a happy camper ;>}I already used DVD Decrypter stand alone in addition to DVDFab Decrypter with bad results.It probably would have been beneficial to see the DVD Decrypter log of this "standalone" try.

By the way - Although it proves nothing positive by itself (But can substantiate something negative), I'm curious to know if your first original, purchased DVD played properly...

[rack04]

Does anyone know the criteria for the "bogus" VTS removal. Reason I ask is because I recently tried to rip my copy of Independence Day: Five Star Collection Region 1 and it removed VTS 5 which was the theatrical version. If needed I will post the ripit4me logs when I get home. Thanks.

[jeanl]

Did it say it was bogus, or did it remove it because you were in movie-only, or movie+menus mode?
jeanl

[setarip_old]

@rack04

Hi!

Were you doing a "Full DVD backup", or had you selected one of the two "movie only" formats? (If you did a "movie only" format, only one of the two versions would be chosen for backup)

[rack04]

@rack04

Hi!

Were you doing a "Full DVD backup", or had you selected one of the two "movie only" formats? (If you did a "movie only" format, only one of the two versions would be chosen for backup)

Thanks for the reply. I was doing a "Full DVD backup" and the VTS was removed. Ripit4me reported that the VTS was "bogus". While trying to view the ripped backup using PowerDVD it wouldn't play. I was able to use DVD Decrypter by itself but I just thought I'd raise the question of why it was removed. Thanks.

[Husky55]

Ok, sorry, cannot post any log file as it's my habit to delete all ripped files as soon as I am done with them.

My recollection is:

1. the files were completely ripped. But Rip4Me claimed something about not finding my VIDEO_TS folder and my system running W98 or WinME. I run XP SP2 and do not have W98 or Me installed on this machine (Athlon 64 Venice core @3MHz).

2. Since the files were ripped successfully I started testing them with Power DVD and DVD Shrink and both programs crashed. What I saw were scrambled pictures.

3. Based on setarip_old and Blutach inputs, I inspected the DVD which looked OK to me i.e. no scratched discernible to my eyes under bright sun. Frankly I did not believe that my DVD is defective. But I am willing to prove I could be wrong. I went and exchanged the DVD which looks just like the one I replaced.

4. My system is overclocked but very stable as I ran memtest86, Prime95 torture test on large FFT's and SuperPi 32M option.

5. My stand alone DVD player, a Panasonic S97 upconverting to 1080i with HDMI to a Pan TH-50PX50U plasma, played the DVD seemingly with no problem. I did not play the original DVD completely, just tested it out.

I was real surprised that, as serarip_old said, this DVD had no new encryption and we do not need Rip4Me (verified) so it's just one of those things that I really screwed it it up.

Blutach, I did do the pgcedit test. You and and serarip_old were both right.

Thanks again,

:thanks:

[setarip_old]

My system is overclockedThis is OFTEN the cause of faulty ripping and/or compressing...

[Husky55]

This is OFTEN the cause of faulty ripping and/or compressing...

You are probably right again.

By the way this new Madea is a remake of the 2002 movie which as I recall was not too good!!



:)

[blutach]

@jinjin_jp

Yes, that is quite possible. There must be some reason for the initial PSL file and perhaps that is it.

@Husky55 - always a good idea to keep the logs, so you can give out info to help you.

@rack04 - you will need to post the logs and probably the IFOs. As you know, we will not allow posting IFOs from commercial DVDs here. You can PM me with them and I will attempt to answer you.

Regards

[setarip_old]

By the way this new Madea is a remake of the 2002 movieNo, it's not. I believe the 2002 movie was "Madea's CLASS Reunion" - This one is "Madea's FAMILY Reunion"...

[rack04]

@jinjin_jp

Yes, that is quite possible. There must be some reason for the initial PSL file and perhaps that is it.

@Husky55 - always a good idea to keep the logs, so you can give out info to help you.

@rack04 - you will need to post the logs and probably the IFOs. As you know, we will not allow posting IFOs from commercial DVDs here. You can PM me with them and I will attempt to answer you.

Regards

Where do you recommend that I host the zip file containing the ripit4me logs and original IFOs so that I can pm them to you?

[blutach]

Rapidshare?

Regards

[jinjin_jp]

I tried RipIt4Me.
Error occured, when click "defailt" button of preferenses.
No problem in ver.1.4.8.0
Thanks very much, author.

[blutach]

@rack04 - I'm not sure of your problem.

VTS 5 was removed. It had nothing but junk in it. RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) would have determined that is was not played.

VTS 4 contains the features (titles 1, 9, 8 and 2) and it is intact according to your IFOs as the following screenshots from PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) show.

Original

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9550/originalew9.png


After rip

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/363/finalda2.png

EDIT: I see now. VMGM 10 has a jump to title 10, which is now non-existent - that might very well be why PowerDVD failed. Needs further work.

EDIT 2: The titles have been remapped incorrectly. There is a definite bug. Title 10 is in VTS 1. VTS 5 is still not visited, but the original VTST 1, 1 (title 10), comes out in the final IFOs as title 7. I suspect the titles have been renamed but the jumps to those titles in VMG (and perhaps the menu buttons, where allowed) have not been remapped.

I hope the author reads this as it is an important bug.

Regards

[DSP8000]

Hi,

:thanks: to the author of RipIt4Me, one of the best tools ever.
keep up the good work.

Here's an installer for RipIt4Me that installs:

1.RipIt4Me v1.4.10.0
2.VixVTS v1.403
3.Downloads & installs DVD Decrypter v3.5.4.0
4.Downloads & installs ImgBurn v2.0.0.0

RipIt4Me v1.4.10.0 (http://members.iinet.com.au/~isdmultimedia/files/RipIt4Me v1.4.10.0.exe)


DSP8000

UPDATED

[rack04]

@rack04 - I'm not sure of your problem.

VTS 5 was removed. It had nothing but junk in it. RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) would have determined that is was not played.

VTS 4 contains the features (titles 1, 9, 8 and 2) and it is intact according to your IFOs as the following screenshots from PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) show.

Original

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9550/originalew9.png


After rip

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/363/finalda2.png

EDIT: I see now. VMGM 10 has a jump to title 10, which is now non-existent - that might very well be why PowerDVD failed. Needs further work.

EDIT 2: I think I see the problem. The titles have been remapped incorrectly. There is a definite bug. Title 10 is in VTS 1. VTS 5 is still not visited, but the original VTST 1, 1 (title 10), comes out in the final IFOs as title 7. I suspect the title have been renamed but the juimps to those titles in VMG (and perhaps the menu buttons, where allowed) have not been remapped.

I hope the author reads this as it is an important bug.

Regards

Thanks for taking a look at the IFOs. Let me know if there is any other information that I can provide. Should I post a thread over at Digital Digest so that this problem gets their attention?

[blutach]

That will be enough, I am sure.

Regards

[kis2005]

Also, remember that when you process with AutoGK, and if you want to avoid audio/video delay, be sure to rip in movie-only mode as this removes all the bogus cells at the start of the movie (they're not always removed in full mode).
If they're not removed, a "bug" (not really a bug, let's say a limitation) in DGIndex/AutoGK might introduce a delay between the audio and the video...
jeanl

Thanks a great tip. I normally rip full DVD and then use Shrink to decide what I want, but I didn't think of doing Movie Only. I will try that with all of my Sony discs from now on, but so far the only one I had a audio synch issue with was Ultraviolet, but I fixed that with VDubMod. Every other title so far, i was able to clean with FixVTS combined with PGCEdit or RI4M.

So thanks again. That's a great tip.

[blutach]

Seems RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) has been updated to take care of the bug rack04 reported above.

Regards

Changelog - versions 1.4.9 and 1.4.10

IF YOU HAVE A CRASH: Make sure you post the DebugLog.txt file (re-run RipIt4Me and it will located it for you). If your crash happens at step 2 (create PSL), then post the original IFO files copied straight from the DVD. If the crash happens during the cleanup phase, then post the ripped IFO files (in the target rip directory) and the buttoninfo.txt file. THANKS!
Fixed a title mapping bug. A JumpTT that point to a non-existent title, or to a title that was removed is now changed to a NOP.
RI4M shouldn't complain about DVD Shrink still running if you started it but then closed it.

[kis2005]

RI4M is crashing. It looks like DVD D doesn't even get off the ground. This has happen before with earlier versions while using a USB DVD/RW, but the internal DVD Rom worked fine. This time around niether will work. I tried deleating the .INI file; reverted back to 1.46; unplugged all USB devices; uninstalled and reinstalled RI4M; RI4M still shuts down.

here is my log:

I 10:27:03: Wizard Step 1
I 10:27:09: Checking FixVTS version...
I 10:27:09: Using version: 1.4.0.3 -- All OK
I 10:27:09: RipIt4Me Version 1.4.10.0
I 10:27:09: Starting 1-click Ripping Procedure at 10:27:03
I 10:27:09: Ripping mode: Full Rip
I 10:27:09: RemoveProtectedCells on
I 10:27:09: RemoveTinyCells = on
I 10:27:09: RemoveUselessMenuCells = off
I 10:27:09: RemoveLastVTS = on
I 10:27:09: Opening IFOs -- Waiting for drive to be ready
I 10:27:09: DVD Volume Label: GHOSTBREAKERS
I 10:27:09: D: Loading DVD
I 10:27:09: D: Reset done
I 10:27:09: D: DVDL loading
I 10:27:09: D: DVDL Reset done
I 10:27:09: Loading IFOs
I 10:27:09: D: video_ts.ifo loaded1
I 10:27:09: DVD is region-free
I 10:27:09: D: video_ts.ifo loaded3
I 10:27:09: D: D: Loading PGC0
I 10:27:09: D: Loading PGC NC 0
I 10:27:09: D: Loading PGC 0 0 0
I 10:27:09: D: Commands loaded
I 10:27:09: D: Programs loaded
I 10:27:09: D: Header loaded


I'll try to post to Digital Digest later.

Thanks.

[setarip_old]

Hi!

Is this the DVD you're dealing with?The Ghost Breakers, George Marshall, Bob Hope, Paulette Goddard, ... Rated: Unrated; Studio: Universal Studios; DVD Release Date: March 5, 2002 ...Or something else?

If it's something else, please state the exact Title and Region...

[kis2005]

Yes it is and it is R1. I know what your thinking it, doesn't need to be run through RI4M, but it is a habit of using RI4M, because of the automation. But in this case, DVD D isn't even started, so I'm trying to isolate a hardware or software reason. DVDD worked fine by itself on this DVD, and ran FixVTS fine. So next is to try RI4M on another PC and see if it works. I just used RI4M last night ...same version, same PC, I didn't restart it in between last night and this morning. I did however restart the PC a few times.

Any ideas?

[setarip_old]

If I understrand you correctly:

1) Directly, DVD Decrypter processed this DVD without a problem

2) From within the "RipIt4Me" package, the automatic first step of ripping with DVD Decrypter fails

3) Both before and after trying to rip this DVD,the "RipIt4Me" package processed other DVDs properly

If all of the above is correct, there must be a bug in the "RipIt4Me" package related to the structure of this specific DVD...

If there's something I've misstated in 1) through 3), please clarify.

[bourtzovlakas]

Post your debug info file in DD...
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=69579

[setarip_old]

I just noticed this in your last post:ran FixVTS fine.Was this necessary? Did FixVTS modify any part of the rip?

[jeanl]

and don't forget to include your original IFOs as per the author's request...
jeanl

[kis2005]

If I understrand you correctly:

1) Directly, DVD Decrypter processed this DVD without a problem

2) From within the "RipIt4Me" package, the automatic first step of ripping with DVD Decrypter fails

3) Both before and after trying to rip this DVD,the "RipIt4Me" package processed other DVDs properly

If all of the above is correct, there must be a bug in the "RipIt4Me" package related to the structure of this specific DVD...

If there's something I've misstated in 1) through 3), please clarify.

#1 and 2 is correct, but no to #3. RI4M would not open DVDD after it initially failed this morning, but using DVDD afterwards, worked.

To me it doesn't seem to be a hardware issue; The programs work fine on their own, so I would agree that it is something to do with the installer package and/or some kind of conflict with my system. If that is the case, the big question is to why it works most of the time, but doesn't others.

As I stated earlier, I had a similar issue, but it was isolated to a single drive, but this time it is all of the drives ..internal and external.

I'll try to get this posted at the above thread.

Thanks.

[setarip_old]

RI4M would not open DVDD after it initially failed this morningWith a different DVD?

[kis2005]

I just noticed this in your last post:Was this necessary? Did FixVTS modify any part of the rip?

No probaly not. Just wanted to see if it would work on it's own.

I just tried both discs..the one from last night that worked (Ultraviolet R1) and the one from this morning that didn't work (Ghost Breakers) and RI4M strated fine with Ultraviolet but again crashed on Ghost Breakers ...the none Sony disc didn't work, but the other did?

[setarip_old]

RI4M strated fine with Ultraviolet but again crashed on Ghost Breakers Then, as I said before, there must be a bug in the "RipIt4Me" package related to the structure of this specific DVD...

[jeanl]

kis2005, I think you found a bug. What the author needs at this point is the IFOs from the original DVD (the one that crashes): open the DVD in explorer and copy the IFOs off of it, then zip it up and post it here or on the official bug thread...
jeanl

[kis2005]

Ok will do.

[setarip_old]

copy the IFOs... and post it hereI believe that's not supposed to be done at the Doom9 Forums...

[jeanl]

You're right setarip, I forgot about that... Forget that then, but do post them at Digital Video...
jeanl

[kis2005]

You guys trying to get me in trouble? I'll add it to my post at Digital Digest.

Thanks.

[kis2005]

I'll try to get the IFO's loaded to Digital Digest later. They seem to be having issue. I keep getiing bounced out of the thread back to their home page.

[blutach]

I believe that's not supposed to be done at the Doom9 Forums...
Exactly. Please all, remember our policy on IFOs with respect to commercial DVDs.

I'd ask memebers to read the announcement at the top of this and the newbies forum.

I know RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) asks for certain things to be zipped up. RipIt4Me logs are no problem - they do not contain CSS info. However, IFOs and DVD Decrypter logs can not be posted.

Regards

[kis2005]

fyi...I was able to get the zip file posted to Digital Digest.

[jm1647]

#1 and 2 is correct, but no to #3. RI4M would not open DVDD after it initially failed this morning, but using DVDD afterwards, worked.

To me it doesn't seem to be a hardware issue; The programs work fine on their own, so I would agree that it is something to do with the installer package and/or some kind of conflict with my system. If that is the case, the big question is to why it works most of the time, but doesn't others.

As I stated earlier, I had a similar issue, but it was isolated to a single drive, but this time it is all of the drives ..internal and external.

I'll try to get this posted at the above thread.

Thanks.

Did you use that installer package that is floating around? Also I seen in your debug log at DVF that the DVD is listed as region free. Are you running any programs in the background when you are using RI4M?

[ted demen]

this is just a random ripit4me question but,

after ripit4me has done its thing, it leaves about 4 'readme' (notepad) files/logs along with 2 or 3 "PSW" files.

i delete the readme files but what about the psw-extension files?
do i need to leave them in there (before i import into shrink with the rest of em) or can i erase them too?

[blutach]

Answer "yes" to move logs (or set it to "always" in the preferences) and they are kept in a special folder for future reference. It's a good idea to keep them in case they are needed later.

Regards

[setarip_old]

Hi!

After RipIt4Me (including use of FixVTS, if necessary) has "done its thing", you can delete all files OTHER THAN .IFOs, .BUPs, and .VOBs from the folder containing the ripped DVD...

[jm1647]

Hi!

After RipIt4Me (including use of FixVTS, if necessary) has "done its thing", you can delete all files OTHER THAN .IFOs, .BUPs, and .VOBs from the folder containing the ripped DVD...

The logs might be needed to post in the case of trouble

[kis2005]

Did you use that installer package that is floating around? Also I seen in your debug log at DVF that the DVD is listed as region free. Are you running any programs in the background when you are using RI4M?

No it isn't the package that is floating around. I'm not sure why is states the DVD as Region Free, but it is a 2002 DVD of a 1940's movie, so who knows. And no, I don't run anything in the background.

[jeanl]

kis2005, can you check whether the DVD is actually region free? Perhaps the easiest way is to copy video_ts.ifo off the disc, and open it with IFOEdit, then select VMGM_MAT and look at address 23 VMG Category...
Jeanl

[blutach]

It's probably well-known by anyone who has opened the prog, but RipIt4Me has been upgraded to 1.4.11.0

See Version History for a rather decent changelog.

Regards

[Taokane]

Just used this tool for Silent Hill, when in the DVDecrypter phase, it kept getting a read error on 19_1.Vob...part of the new protection scheme me thinks. Anyway, I chose to ignore that file, completed the rip, clean it up with fixvts and I'm currently in the process of splitting it to two dvd's with ifoedit...I'll let you know how it comes out.

[bourtzovlakas]

Just used this tool for Silent Hill, when in the DVDecrypter phase, it kept getting a read error on 19_1.Vob...part of the new protection scheme me thinks. Anyway, I chose to ignore that file, completed the rip, clean it up with fixvts and I'm currently in the process of splitting it to two dvd's with ifoedit...I'll let you know how it comes out.

Τhere shouldn 't any read error, when using RipIt4Me...
You must have done something wrong...
Probaply, you pressed the "rip" button in Decrypter before the import of the psl file...

[Taokane]

I agree that there shouldn't be an error but it occurred nevertheless, and yes I did wait until the psl was imported, and everything went well except for that one vob. The source dvd is new, no damage at all.... Thankfully that VTS was not needed at all for playback so it wasn't a biggie that I skipped it.

[bourtzovlakas]

Post your RipIt4Me.log and DVDDecrypter.log...
I have ripped this title and there was no read error...

I 00:58:39 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 00:58:39 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4)
I 00:58:39 Initialising SPTI...
I 00:58:39 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 00:58:39 Found 5 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD±RW!
W 00:58:43 Possible Structure Protection Found!
W 00:58:43 3 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
W 00:58:43 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.
W 00:58:43 Possible RCE Protection Found!
W 00:58:43 Media region code: 1
W 00:58:44 User selected Region 1 for the disc's region code.
W 00:58:45 Protected Sectors List Imported Successfully!
W 00:58:45 99 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
W 00:58:45 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.
I 00:58:52 Operation Started!
I 00:58:52 Source Device: [1:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.12 (F:) (ATA)
I 00:58:52 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 00:58:52 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 00:58:52 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 00:58:52 Source Media Implementation Identifier: Spruce Technologies
I 00:58:52 Destination Folder: D:\SILENT_HILL\
I 00:58:52 File Splitting: By File
I 00:58:52 Remove Structure Protection: No
I 00:58:52 Bad Sector Removal Method: Normal
I 00:58:52 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 00:58:52 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 00:58:52 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 00:58:52 Stream Processing: No
I 00:58:52 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 398 - 415) - KEY: N/A
I 00:58:53 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB... (LBA: 416 - 472) - KEY: N/A
I 00:58:53 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 473 - 490) - KEY: N/A
I 00:58:53 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 27176 - 27241) - KEY: N/A
I 00:58:53 Decrypting VTS_01_0.VOB... (LBA: 27242 - 341673) - KEY: *********
I 01:00:50 Decrypting VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 341674 - 865960) - KEY: **********
W 01:01:43 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 349856 - 352971)
I 01:01:43 Extracting Sectors...
I 01:04:10 Decrypting VTS_01_2.VOB... (LBA: 865961 - 1390247) - KEY: ********
I 01:06:15 Decrypting VTS_01_3.VOB... (LBA: 1390248 - 1914534) - KEY: *********
I 01:08:00 Decrypting VTS_01_4.VOB... (LBA: 1914535 - 2438821) - KEY: ********
I 01:09:39 Decrypting VTS_01_5.VOB... (LBA: 2438822 - 2857638) - KEY: **********
W 01:11:24 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 2849296 - 2857638)
I 01:11:25 Extracting Sectors...
I 01:11:25 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 2857639 - 2857704) - KEY: N/A
I 01:11:25 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO... (LBA: 2861488 - 2861520) - KEY: N/A
I 01:11:25 Decrypting VTS_02_0.VOB... (LBA: 2861521 - 2861577) - KEY: *********
I 01:11:25 Decrypting VTS_02_1.VOB... (LBA: 2861578 - 3385779) - KEY: ***********
I 01:13:38 Decrypting VTS_02_2.VOB... (LBA: 3385780 - 3791432) - KEY: **********
I 01:15:35 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP... (LBA: 3791433 - 3791465) - KEY: N/A
I 01:15:35 Copying VTS_03_0.IFO... (LBA: 3791466 - 3791474) - KEY: N/A
I 01:15:35 Decrypting VTS_03_0.VOB... (LBA: 3791475 - 3791531) - KEY: ********
I 01:15:35 Decrypting VTS_03_1.VOB... (LBA: 3791532 - 3830553) - KEY: *******
I 01:15:48 Copying VTS_03_0.BUP... (LBA: 3830554 - 3830562) - KEY: N/A
I 01:15:48 Copying VTS_04_0.IFO... (LBA: 3830563 - 3830571) - KEY: N/A
I 01:15:48 Decrypting VTS_04_0.VOB... (LBA: 3830572 - 3830628) - KEY: ********
I 01:15:48 Decrypting VTS_04_1.VOB... (LBA: 3830629 - 3856826) - KEY: ********
I 01:15:57 Copying VTS_04_0.BUP... (LBA: 3856827 - 3856835) - KEY: N/A
I 01:15:57 Copying VTS_05_0.IFO... (LBA: 3856836 - 3856844) - KEY: N/A
I 01:15:57 Decrypting VTS_05_0.VOB... (LBA: 3856845 - 3856901) - KEY: ***********
I 01:15:57 Decrypting VTS_05_1.VOB... (LBA: 3856902 - 3903023) - KEY: ***********
I 01:16:12 Copying VTS_05_0.BUP... (LBA: 3903024 - 3903032) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:12 Copying VTS_06_0.IFO... (LBA: 3903033 - 3903041) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:12 Decrypting VTS_06_0.VOB... (LBA: 3903042 - 3903098) - KEY: ********
I 01:16:12 Decrypting VTS_06_1.VOB... (LBA: 3903099 - 3952045) - KEY: *********
I 01:16:30 Copying VTS_06_0.BUP... (LBA: 3952046 - 3952054) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:30 Copying VTS_07_0.IFO... (LBA: 3952055 - 3952063) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:30 Decrypting VTS_07_0.VOB... (LBA: 3952064 - 3952120) - KEY: **********
I 01:16:30 Decrypting VTS_07_1.VOB... (LBA: 3952121 - 3957827) - KEY: **********
I 01:16:32 Copying VTS_07_0.BUP... (LBA: 3957828 - 3957836) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:32 Copying VTS_08_0.IFO... (LBA: 3957837 - 3957845) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:32 Decrypting VTS_08_0.VOB... (LBA: 3957846 - 3957902) - KEY: *********
I 01:16:32 Decrypting VTS_08_1.VOB... (LBA: 3957903 - 3963569) - KEY: ********
I 01:16:34 Copying VTS_08_0.BUP... (LBA: 3963570 - 3963578) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:34 Copying VTS_09_0.IFO... (LBA: 3963579 - 3963587) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:34 Decrypting VTS_09_0.VOB... (LBA: 3963588 - 3963644) - KEY: **********
I 01:16:34 Decrypting VTS_09_1.VOB... (LBA: 3963645 - 3983879) - KEY: ***********
I 01:16:42 Copying VTS_09_0.BUP... (LBA: 3983880 - 3983888) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:42 Copying VTS_10_0.IFO... (LBA: 3983889 - 3983897) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:42 Decrypting VTS_10_0.VOB... (LBA: 3983898 - 3983954) - KEY: **********
I 01:16:42 Decrypting VTS_10_1.VOB... (LBA: 3983955 - 4015847) - KEY: **********
I 01:16:54 Copying VTS_10_0.BUP... (LBA: 4015848 - 4015856) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:54 Copying VTS_11_0.IFO... (LBA: 4015857 - 4015865) - KEY: N/A
I 01:16:54 Decrypting VTS_11_0.VOB... (LBA: 4015866 - 4015922) - KEY: *********
I 01:16:54 Decrypting VTS_11_1.VOB... (LBA: 4015923 - 4058172) - KEY: **********
I 01:17:10 Copying VTS_11_0.BUP... (LBA: 4058173 - 4058181) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:10 Copying VTS_12_0.IFO... (LBA: 4058182 - 4058190) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:10 Decrypting VTS_12_0.VOB... (LBA: 4058191 - 4058247) - KEY: *********
I 01:17:10 Decrypting VTS_12_1.VOB... (LBA: 4058248 - 4063724) - KEY: *********
I 01:17:12 Copying VTS_12_0.BUP... (LBA: 4063725 - 4063733) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:12 Copying VTS_13_0.IFO... (LBA: 4063734 - 4063742) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:12 Decrypting VTS_13_0.VOB... (LBA: 4063743 - 4063799) - KEY: ********
I 01:17:13 Decrypting VTS_13_1.VOB... (LBA: 4063800 - 4101718) - KEY: *********
I 01:17:28 Copying VTS_13_0.BUP... (LBA: 4101719 - 4101727) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:28 Copying VTS_14_0.IFO... (LBA: 4101728 - 4101736) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:28 Decrypting VTS_14_0.VOB... (LBA: 4101737 - 4101793) - KEY: *********
I 01:17:28 Decrypting VTS_14_1.VOB... (LBA: 4101794 - 4107498) - KEY: ***********
I 01:17:30 Copying VTS_14_0.BUP... (LBA: 4107499 - 4107507) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:30 Copying VTS_15_0.IFO... (LBA: 4107508 - 4107516) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:30 Decrypting VTS_15_0.VOB... (LBA: 4107517 - 4107573) - KEY: **********
I 01:17:30 Decrypting VTS_15_1.VOB... (LBA: 4107574 - 4112548) - KEY: ************
I 01:17:33 Copying VTS_15_0.BUP... (LBA: 4112549 - 4112557) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:33 Copying VTS_16_0.IFO... (LBA: 4112558 - 4112566) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:33 Decrypting VTS_16_0.VOB... (LBA: 4112567 - 4112623) - KEY: **********
I 01:17:33 Decrypting VTS_16_1.VOB... (LBA: 4112624 - 4118038) - KEY: **********
I 01:17:35 Copying VTS_16_0.BUP... (LBA: 4118039 - 4118047) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:35 Copying VTS_17_0.IFO... (LBA: 4118048 - 4118056) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:35 Decrypting VTS_17_0.VOB... (LBA: 4118057 - 4118113) - KEY: ***********
I 01:17:35 Decrypting VTS_17_1.VOB... (LBA: 4118114 - 4122062) - KEY: **********
I 01:17:37 Copying VTS_17_0.BUP... (LBA: 4122063 - 4122071) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:37 Copying VTS_18_0.IFO... (LBA: 4122072 - 4122080) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:37 Decrypting VTS_18_0.VOB... (LBA: 4122081 - 4122137) - KEY: *********
I 01:17:37 Decrypting VTS_18_1.VOB... (LBA: 4122138 - 4123727) - KEY: **********
I 01:17:37 Copying VTS_18_0.BUP... (LBA: 4123728 - 4123736) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:37 Copying VTS_19_0.IFO... (LBA: 4123737 - 4123766) - KEY: N/A
I 01:17:37 Decrypting VTS_19_0.VOB... (LBA: 4123767 - 4124026) - KEY: ************
I 01:17:38 Decrypting VTS_19_1.VOB... (LBA: 4124027 - 4169006) - KEY: ***********
W 01:17:55 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 4132208 - 4140157)
I 01:17:55 Extracting Sectors...
I 01:18:08 Copying VTS_19_0.BUP... (LBA: 4169007 - 4169036) - KEY: N/A
I 01:18:08 Copying VTS_20_0.IFO... (LBA: 4169037 - 4169066) - KEY: N/A
I 01:18:08 Decrypting VTS_20_0.VOB... (LBA: 4169067 - 4169326) - KEY: **********
I 01:18:08 Decrypting VTS_20_1.VOB... (LBA: 4169327 - 4169586) - KEY: **********
I 01:18:08 Copying VTS_20_0.BUP... (LBA: 4169587 - 4169616) - KEY: N/A
I 01:18:14 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:16
I 01:18:14 Average Read Rate: 7.160 KB/s (5.2x) - Maximum Read Rate: 11.176 KB/s (8.1x)
I 01:18:14 Close Request Acknowledged
I 01:18:14 Closing Down...
I 01:18:14 Shutting down SPTI...
I 01:18:14 DVD Decrypter closed!

[Taokane]

Just finished buring both disks -- everything works ok.... even with the error.


but since you ask, I'll post two logs, first, here's the DVDDecrypter log:

I 10:56:50 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 10:56:50 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4)
I 10:56:50 Initialising SPTI...
I 10:56:50 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 10:56:51 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD-RW and 1 DVD±RW!
W 10:56:54 Possible Structure Protection Found!
W 10:56:54 3 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
W 10:56:54 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.
W 10:56:54 Possible RCE Protection Found!
W 10:56:54 Media region code: 1
W 10:56:55 User selected Region 1 for the disc's region code.
W 10:56:57 Protected Sectors List Imported Successfully!
W 10:56:57 54 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
W 10:56:57 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.
I 10:57:08 Operation Started!
I 10:57:08 Source Device: [1:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-812S US0S (E:) (ATA)
I 10:57:08 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 10:57:08 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 10:57:08 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 10:57:08 Source Media Implementation Identifier: Spruce Technologies
I 10:57:08 Destination Folder: I:\FRESH\
I 10:57:08 File Splitting: By File
I 10:57:08 Read Speed: 4x
I 10:57:08 Hardware Read Error Retries: 2
I 10:57:08 Remove Structure Protection: No
I 10:57:08 Bad Sector Removal Method: Normal
I 10:57:08 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 10:57:08 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 10:57:08 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 10:57:08 Stream Processing: No
W 10:57:08 [1:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-812S US0S (E:) (ATA) - Selected Read Speed: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
W 10:57:08 [1:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-812S US0S (E:) (ATA) - Actual Read Speed: 16,504 KB/s (12.2x)
I 10:57:08 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 398 - 415) - KEY: N/A
I 10:57:09 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB... (LBA: 416 - 472) - KEY: N/A
I 10:57:09 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 473 - 490) - KEY: N/A
I 10:57:09 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 27176 - 27241) - KEY: N/A
I 10:57:10 Decrypting VTS_01_0.VOB... (LBA: 27242 - 341673) - KEY:
I 11:01:51 Decrypting VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 341674 - 865960) - KEY:
W 11:02:13 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 349857 - 352971)
I 11:02:13 Extracting Sectors...
I 11:10:03 Decrypting VTS_01_2.VOB... (LBA: 865961 - 1390247) - KEY:
I 11:18:01 Decrypting VTS_01_3.VOB... (LBA: 1390248 - 1914534) -
I 11:26:00 Decrypting VTS_01_4.VOB... (LBA: 1914535 - 2438821) -
I 11:33:53 Decrypting VTS_01_5.VOB... (LBA: 2438822 - 2857638) -
W 11:40:16 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 2849296 - 2857638)
I 11:40:17 Extracting Sectors...
I 11:40:17 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 2857639 - 2857704) - KEY: N/A
I 11:40:17 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO... (LBA: 2861488 - 2861520) - KEY: N/A
I 11:40:17 Decrypting VTS_02_0.VOB... (LBA: 2861521 - 2861577) -
I 11:40:18 Decrypting VTS_02_1.VOB... (LBA: 2861578 - 3385779) -
I 11:47:56 Decrypting VTS_02_2.VOB... (LBA: 3385780 - 3791432) -
I 11:54:09 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP... (LBA: 3791433 - 3791465) - KEY: N/A
I 11:54:09 Copying VTS_03_0.IFO... (LBA: 3791466 - 3791474) - KEY: N/A
I 11:54:09 Decrypting VTS_03_0.VOB... (LBA: 3791475 - 3791531) - KEY: I 11:54:09 Decrypting VTS_03_1.VOB... (LBA: 3791532 - 3830553) - KEY: I 11:54:44 Copying VTS_03_0.BUP... (LBA: 3830554 - 3830562) - KEY: N/A
I 11:54:44 Copying VTS_04_0.IFO... (LBA: 3830563 - 3830571) - KEY: N/A
I 11:54:44 Decrypting VTS_04_0.VOB... (LBA: 3830572 - 3830628) - KEY:
I 11:54:44 Decrypting VTS_04_1.VOB... (LBA: 3830629 - 3856826) - KEY:
I 11:55:08 Copying VTS_04_0.BUP... (LBA: 3856827 - 3856835) - KEY: N/A
I 11:55:08 Copying VTS_05_0.IFO... (LBA: 3856836 - 3856844) - KEY: N/A
I 11:55:08 Decrypting VTS_05_0.VOB... (LBA: 3856845 - 3856901) - KEY:
I 11:55:08 Decrypting VTS_05_1.VOB... (LBA: 3856902 - 3903023) - KEY:
I 11:55:52 Copying VTS_05_0.BUP... (LBA: 3903024 - 3903032) - KEY: N/A
I 11:55:52 Copying VTS_06_0.IFO... (LBA: 3903033 - 3903041) - KEY: N/A
I 11:55:52 Decrypting VTS_06_0.VOB... (LBA: 3903042 - 3903098) - KEY:
I 11:55:52 Decrypting VTS_06_1.VOB... (LBA: 3903099 - 3952045) - KEY:
I 11:56:35 Copying VTS_06_0.BUP... (LBA: 3952046 - 3952054) - KEY: N/A
I 11:56:36 Copying VTS_07_0.IFO... (LBA: 3952055 - 3952063) - KEY: N/A
I 11:56:36 Decrypting VTS_07_0.VOB... (LBA: 3952064 - 3952120) - KEY:
I 11:56:36 Decrypting VTS_07_1.VOB... (LBA: 3952121 - 3957827) - KEY:
I 11:56:41 Copying VTS_07_0.BUP... (LBA: 3957828 - 3957836) - KEY: N/A
I 11:56:41 Copying VTS_08_0.IFO... (LBA: 3957837 - 3957845) - KEY: N/A
I 11:56:41 Decrypting VTS_08_0.VOB... (LBA: 3957846 - 3957902) - KEY:
I 11:56:41 Decrypting VTS_08_1.VOB... (LBA: 3957903 - 3963569) - KEY:
I 11:56:46 Copying VTS_08_0.BUP... (LBA: 3963570 - 3963578) - KEY: N/A
I 11:56:47 Copying VTS_09_0.IFO... (LBA: 3963579 - 3963587) - KEY: N/A
I 11:56:47 Decrypting VTS_09_0.VOB... (LBA: 3963588 - 3963644) - KEY:
I 11:56:47 Decrypting VTS_09_1.VOB... (LBA: 3963645 - 3983879) - KEY:
I 11:57:05 Copying VTS_09_0.BUP... (LBA: 3983880 - 3983888) - KEY: N/A
I 11:57:05 Copying VTS_10_0.IFO... (LBA: 3983889 - 3983897) - KEY: N/A
I 11:57:05 Decrypting VTS_10_0.VOB... (LBA: 3983898 - 3983954) - KEY:
I 11:57:05 Decrypting VTS_10_1.VOB... (LBA: 3983955 - 4015847) - KEY:
I 11:57:35 Copying VTS_10_0.BUP... (LBA: 4015848 - 4015856) - KEY: N/A
I 11:57:35 Copying VTS_11_0.IFO... (LBA: 4015857 - 4015865) - KEY: N/A
I 11:57:35 Decrypting VTS_11_0.VOB... (LBA: 4015866 - 4015922) - KEY:
I 11:57:35 Decrypting VTS_11_1.VOB... (LBA: 4015923 - 4058172) - KEY:
I 11:58:15 Copying VTS_11_0.BUP... (LBA: 4058173 - 4058181) - KEY: N/A
I 11:58:15 Copying VTS_12_0.IFO... (LBA: 4058182 - 4058190) - KEY: N/A
I 11:58:15 Decrypting VTS_12_0.VOB... (LBA: 4058191 - 4058247) - KEY:
I 11:58:15 Decrypting VTS_12_1.VOB... (LBA: 4058248 - 4063724) - KEY:
I 11:58:20 Copying VTS_12_0.BUP... (LBA: 4063725 - 4063733) - KEY: N/A
I 11:58:20 Copying VTS_13_0.IFO... (LBA: 4063734 - 4063742) - KEY: N/A
I 11:58:20 Decrypting VTS_13_0.VOB... (LBA: 4063743 - 4063799) - KEY:
I 11:58:20 Decrypting VTS_13_1.VOB... (LBA: 4063800 - 4101718) - KEY:
I 11:58:55 Copying VTS_13_0.BUP... (LBA: 4101719 - 4101727) - KEY: N/A
I 11:58:55 Copying VTS_14_0.IFO... (LBA: 4101728 - 4101736) - KEY: N/A
I 11:58:55 Decrypting VTS_14_0.VOB... (LBA: 4101737 - 4101793) - KEY:
I 11:58:55 Decrypting VTS_14_1.VOB... (LBA: 4101794 - 4107498) - KEY:
I 11:59:01 Copying VTS_14_0.BUP... (LBA: 4107499 - 4107507) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:01 Copying VTS_15_0.IFO... (LBA: 4107508 - 4107516) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:01 Decrypting VTS_15_0.VOB... (LBA: 4107517 - 4107573) - KEY:
I 11:59:01 Decrypting VTS_15_1.VOB... (LBA: 4107574 - 4112548) - KEY:
I 11:59:06 Copying VTS_15_0.BUP... (LBA: 4112549 - 4112557) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:06 Copying VTS_16_0.IFO... (LBA: 4112558 - 4112566) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:06 Decrypting VTS_16_0.VOB... (LBA: 4112567 - 4112623) - KEY:
I 11:59:06 Decrypting VTS_16_1.VOB... (LBA: 4112624 - 4118038) - KEY:
I 11:59:11 Copying VTS_16_0.BUP... (LBA: 4118039 - 4118047) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:11 Copying VTS_17_0.IFO... (LBA: 4118048 - 4118056) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:11 Decrypting VTS_17_0.VOB... (LBA: 4118057 - 4118113) - KEY:
I 11:59:11 Decrypting VTS_17_1.VOB... (LBA: 4118114 - 4122062) - KEY:
I 11:59:14 Copying VTS_17_0.BUP... (LBA: 4122063 - 4122071) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:15 Copying VTS_18_0.IFO... (LBA: 4122072 - 4122080) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:15 Decrypting VTS_18_0.VOB... (LBA: 4122081 - 4122137) - KEY:
I 11:59:15 Decrypting VTS_18_1.VOB... (LBA: 4122138 - 4123727) - KEY:
I 11:59:16 Copying VTS_18_0.BUP... (LBA: 4123728 - 4123736) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:16 Copying VTS_19_0.IFO... (LBA: 4123737 - 4123766) - KEY: N/A
I 11:59:16 Decrypting VTS_19_0.VOB... (LBA: 4123767 - 4124026) - KEY:
I 11:59:17 Decrypting VTS_19_1.VOB... (LBA: 4124027 - 4169006) - KEY:
W 12:00:16 Failed to read Sector 4132218 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 12:00:59 Failed to read Sector 4132219 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 12:01:47 Failed to read Sector 4132220 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 12:02:34 Failed to read Sector 4132221 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 12:03:25 Failed to read Sector 4132222 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 12:03:25 Failed to decrypt VTS_19_1.VOB!
I 12:03:30 Copying VTS_19_0.BUP... (LBA: 4169007 - 4169036) - KEY: N/A
I 12:03:30 Copying VTS_20_0.IFO... (LBA: 4169037 - 4169066) - KEY: N/A
I 12:03:30 Decrypting VTS_20_0.VOB... (LBA: 4169067 - 4169326) - KEY:
I 12:03:31 Decrypting VTS_20_1.VOB... (LBA: 4169327 - 4169586) - KEY:
I 12:03:31 Copying VTS_20_0.BUP... (LBA: 4169587 - 4169616) - KEY: N/A
I 12:03:31 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:06:22
I 12:03:31 Average Read Rate: 2,060 KB/s (1.5x) - Maximum Read Rate: 3,907 KB/s (2.8x)
I 12:03:31 Close Request Acknowledged
I 12:03:31 Closing Down...
I 12:03:31 Shutting down SPTI...
I 12:03:31 DVD Decrypter closed!

[Taokane]

above you can see the "Unrecovered Read Error" I got towards the end, anyway, here is the RipIT4Me log:


I 10:55:36: RipIt4Me Version 1.4.11.0
I 10:55:36: Starting Wizard at 10:55:36
I 10:55:36: Ripping mode: Full Rip
I 10:55:36: RemoveProtectedCells on
I 10:55:36: RemoveTinyCells = on
I 10:55:36: RemoveUselessMenuCells = on
I 10:55:36: RemoveLastVTS = on
I 10:55:36: Copying original IFOs into target directory
I 10:55:41:
I 10:55:41: Wizard Step 2: PSL file creation
I 10:56:38: DVD Volume Label: SILENT_HILL
I 10:56:38: Loading IFOs
I 10:56:38: Region code: 1
I 10:56:38: Done opening IFOs
I 10:56:38: Retrieving sectors from DVD drive
I 10:56:38: WARNING! Your DVD has an "autorun.inf" file
I 10:56:38: WARNING! This might be part of a protection scheme.
I 10:56:38: CRC32 value = 0x60FB9CF9
I 10:56:38: Creating Protected Sector List (PSL) file
I 10:56:38: Done creating PSL file
I 10:56:38:
I 10:56:38: Wizard Step 3: Ripping DVD
I 10:56:50: Starting DVD Decrypter
I 10:56:50: Waiting for Decrypter to be ready
I 10:56:57: Done importing the PSL file, now starting ripping...
I 12:03:31: Done ripping ...
I 12:03:31:
I 12:03:31: Wizard Step 3B: Optional cleanup
I 12:04:15: Loading IFOs
I 12:04:15: DVD is region-free
I 12:04:25: Scanning VTS 0 for BOVs
I 12:04:25: Scanning VTS 1 for BOVs
I 12:04:26: Scanning VTS 2 for BOVs
I 12:04:27: Scanning VTS 3 for BOVs
I 12:04:28: Scanning VTS 4 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 5 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 6 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 7 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 8 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 9 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 10 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 11 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 12 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 13 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 14 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 15 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 16 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 17 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 18 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 19 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning VTS 20 for BOVs
I 12:04:29: Scanning DVD Decrypter log for protected cells
I 12:04:29: Possible structure protection detected by DVD Decrypter
I 12:04:29: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 13 is protected
I 12:04:29: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 14 is protected
I 12:04:29: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 51 is protected
I 12:04:29: Found 3 protected cells
I 12:04:29: Analysing DVD structure
I 12:04:29: MD = 400
I 12:04:29: MV = 4000
I 12:04:29: BOR = 1
I 12:04:29: BON = 1
I 12:04:29: REB = 1
I 12:04:29: BOS = 1
I 12:04:30:
I 12:04:30:
I 12:04:30: Analysis done
I 12:04:30: Checking for potential read-errors caused by scratches on the disc.
I 12:04:30: No abnormal read-error detected.
I 12:04:30: Removing protected cells and cleaning up cell commands
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 51 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 2 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 50 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 49 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 18 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 17 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 16 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 1 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 15 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 14 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 13 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 12 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 1 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 11 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 10 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 7 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 6 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 4 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 3 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 2 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (protected or tiny) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 2 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 3 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 4 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 5 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 6 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 7 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 8 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 9 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 10 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 11 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 12 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 13 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 14 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 15 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 16 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 17 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: VTSM 18 LU1 PGC 1 Cell 1 removed (useless) -- Duration 0 s.
I 12:04:30: Looking for bogus VTS
I 12:04:30: Removing VTS 20
I 12:04:30: Removing VTS 19
I 12:04:30: 2 bogus VTS removed
I 12:04:30:
I 12:04:30: Wizard Step 4: FixVTS
I 12:05:16: Running FixVTS to cleanup DVD
I 12:05:16: Checking FixVTS version...
I 12:05:16: Using version: 1.4.0.3 -- All OK
I 12:10:22: Done!

[bourtzovlakas]

The differences are obvious...

My log...
W 00:58:45 99 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
....
I 01:17:38 Decrypting VTS_19_1.VOB... (LBA: 4124027 - 4169006) - KEY: ***********
W 01:17:55 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 4132208 - 4140157)
I 01:17:55 Extracting Sectors...

Your log...
W 10:56:57 54 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
....
I 10:57:08 Read Speed: 4x
I 10:57:08 Hardware Read Error Retries: 2
....
I 11:59:17 Decrypting VTS_19_1.VOB... (LBA: 4124027 - 4169006) - KEY: ********
W 12:00:16 Failed to read Sector 4132218 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 12:00:59 Failed to read Sector 4132219 - Unrecovered Read Error

Try to reset DVD Decrypter 's settings to default and rip again...

[Taokane]

that could be it I suppose.... I'll try it later on, thanks.

[blutach]

Looks like there's been a couple of quick updates

Looks quite extensive. Thanks to the author.

Regards

Version 1.4.13.0 (31 August 2006)
- Fixed a bug introduced in 1.4.12.0 that could cause video_ts.ifo to grow to a huge size, make RipIt4Me issue the message "Cannot write video_ts.ifo" and possibly crash.
- Fixed a UI problem in the selection of the movie/audio/subpicture streams in movie-only and movie+menus modes.
Sorry for the quick release, but we're trying to solve the crash problems as fast as we can...

Version 1.4.12.0 (30 August 2006)
- Added the full language name in the subpicture selection for movie-only (in addition to the two letter code).
- Added "Cancel Rip" button to audio/subpicture stream selection dialog.
- There is a new preference check box to run FixVTS only on those titlesets that need it. If "Always run FixVTS on full DVD" is checked, or if the DVD appears to be protected, the entire DVD is run through FixVTS.
Otherwise, FixVTS is run only on
. the menus
. the titlesets that have been modified (cells removed etc)
. the titlesets that show unreferenced material
This can help save a bit of time, for those who are in a hurry. Otherwise, keep the option to process the full DVD checked.
- The original IFO files are no longer read-only.
- Fixed a bug that sometimes prevented specifying the target directory in ISO mode.
- Fixed a bug in the function that create PSL. This could cause RipIt4Me to crash.
- Added a check to verify that the FixVTS path indeed points to FixVTS.exe
- Fixed a problem in the way the VMG_VTS_ATRT table was adjusted when VTSs were removed. This could cause problems when opening in IFOEdit.
- Fixed the bug that caused the wrong DVD drive to be open in case of scratches or at the end of the rip (if the option is selected).
Keep these debug logs coming! We identified a couple more bugs thanks to them. Don't forget to zip up and post the IFOs as well (original ones, and final ones) and buttoninfo.txt so we can reproduce the problem. Thanks!

[JoeBG]

Is it possible to add the Ifo Mode? Creating a new IFO after Ripping etc?

[blutach]

@JoeBG

Strictly speaking, you do not need anything else for IFO mode, so long as you know what cells are the bad ones. The PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) plugin can tell you that easily (as can DVD Decrypter in Log debug mode). It's then a matter of ripping in IFO mode but not ripping the bad cells (you can also choose what streams to ignore, of course).

Then create a Video Manager, either with PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) or with the old free version of DVDFab 0.17.0 (avaliable here (www.mrbass.org/dvdfab)).

Regards

[kurt]

@JoeBG

try ripping "movie only" in oneclick mode...

[JoeBG]

@JoeBG

try ripping "movie only" in oneclick mode...

That means ripping all streams. But I just want to rip the streams I really need. With other words: I want to use the stripping functions of the Decrypter :)

[blutach]

I actually think the time it takes to strip the streams will probably be similar to adding a video manager. Up to you, of course.

Regards

[manwithaq]

Hi all

I tried the RipIt4Me with RV. It worked okay. I could not get a good result with PGCEdit. It kept giving me errors even with the psl file it created. RipIt4Me worked fine but then when I choose back up in DVD Shrink, it gave me an error that DVD Shrink encountered an error, incorrect parameter, out of memory. Can someone tell me what to do to back it up ??

[dialysis1]

When you processed your movie, did you also use FixVTS?
Did you rip the movie in ISO mode?

[blutach]

Version 1.4.14.0 released today with a huge changelog.

Changelog (http://www.ripit4me.org/changelog.html)

Regards

[setarip_old]

Does "RipIt4Me" use MY DVD Decrypter settings, or does it use its own DVD Decrypter settings and reset DVD Decrypter back to my settings when finished?

If it uses its own settings, do they include one or both "Remove IFO PUOs" or "Remove VOB PUOs"?

[cynthia_old]

Export your settings in Windows registry for this location

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DVD Decrypter

Then start RipIt4Me in Wizard mode and let it start DVD Decrypter then export the same settings and compare them.

[setarip_old]

Thanks for that suggestion but, hopefully, someone has a direct/specific answer to my question...

[laserfan]

...export the same settings and compare them.To make the comparison trivially easy, an outstanding free program (everyone needs) to do this is WinMerge.

[writersblock29]

@setarip_old

Qouted: "Thanks for that suggestion but, hopefully, someone has a direct/specific answer to my question... "

I found this information in the Ripit4Me guide that hopefully answers part of your question:

" Note 3: RipIt4Me will change some of your default settings in DVD Decrypter to assure that they are the best ones when ripping protected DVDs. The changed settings should not cause any problems for you when you rip other DVDs. The original settings are restored immediately after the rip."

From my own experience, I've found that if, say, I was previously using DVD Decrypter as a stream processor... then fired up Ripit4Me to do a different disk (Ripit4Me would use Decrypter the way it usually does)... the next time I activate Decrypter on its own, it'll be set up for stream processing -- just like I left it when I last used it.

As far as UPOs, I'm not really sure; the copied disk seems always to behave identically to the original disk -- FBI warnings can't be skipped on my set top players, nor can studio logos, ect. But I haven't tried switching audio tracks during playback (which some studio disks won't let you do), so in this case I'm not entirely sure. I know that default Decrypter settings for both IFO and VOB UPOs is to leave them unchecked... but I'm not sure if Ripit4Me changes these. I doesn't appear that way, though.

I hope this helps at least somewhat.

[setarip_old]

@writersblock29" Note 3: RipIt4Me will change some of your default settings in DVD Decrypter to assure that they are the best ones when ripping protected DVDs. The changed settings should not cause any problems for you when you rip other DVDs. The original settings are restored immediately after the rip."Thanks for that - it's part of the answer (And I should have checked the guide again before asking, as it rang a distant bell ;>})

I'm most curious to know if the program is setting DVD Decrypter to eliminate VOB PUOs. The reason for my question is that one, and only one of my standalone players - a VERY finicky SONY NS725P doesn't properly playback some apparently perfect rips.

It will behave properly up to and including menu selection - but when it starts the actual movie, it flies through each of the chapters, at approximately 2 seconds of display for each.

Again, these burned DVDs play PERFECTLY on 5 other standalones and three PC systems...

[writersblock29]

@setarip_old

I'd ask if your Sony has this difficulty with disks that were ripped using other programs, but my own Sony set top (NS575P) is more finicky than your average housecat, even with the Studio originals. Amazingly, the cheapest set I've got (an Apex, the model of which I'm too lazy to go and look at at the moment) is also the set that I've had the least amount of problems with.

I feel your pain. :rolleyes:

[setarip_old]

I've not seen this particular behavior before, that I can recall...I feel your pain.Quoting Bill Clinton, boy oh boy ;>}

BTW - The backup I made with DVD95Copy plays perfectly on the SONY...

[cynthia_old]

Before:

"FILE_RemovePUO"=dword:00000001
"FILE_RemoveVOBPUO"=dword:00000001After:

"FILE_RemovePUO"=dword:00000001
"FILE_RemoveVOBPUO"=dword:00000001Conclusion: No changes of the user set settings.

:)

[setarip_old]

@cynthia_old

I believe you've misunderstood the question. As far as whether "RipIt4Me" returns the DVD Decrypter settings to my original configuration, this was already answered with the quote from the guide, as follows:" Note 3: RipIt4Me will change some of your default settings in DVD Decrypter to assure that they are the best ones when ripping protected DVDs. The changed settings should not cause any problems for you when you rip other DVDs. The original settings are restored immediately after the rip."

[laserfan]

...a VERY finicky SONY NS725P doesn't properly playback some apparently perfect rips. It will behave properly up to and including menu selection - but when it starts the actual movie, it flies through each of the chapters, at approximately 2 seconds of display for each.I have two Sony players and they both have trouble sometimes.

Wondering did you just burn the result of RI4M output to DVD, or did you reduce from DVD-9 to DVD-5 perhaps? Sounds like the Cell Commands got jazzed-up somehow--are they 2s, 8s, 10s?

[setarip_old]

did you reduce from DVD-9 to DVD-5Yes, as I've done with countless other backup copies.

It's only on rare occasion - most recently the R1 version of "The Proposition" - that the SONY has exhibited this behavior. Therefore, it's apparent to me that some part of the "RipIt4Me" package is altering the .IFOs or .VOBs in a manner unacceptable to the SONY standalone's stringent requirements.

Again a backup of the same DVD, done using only DVD9Copy, plays perfectly on the same SONY standalone (as does the original, commercial DVD)...

[blutach]

I've found that RipIt4Me does nothing to your PUOp settings. I have ripped disks which still have PUOs (IFO and VOB).

A little experimentation will help.

RipIt4Me is VERY compliant ripper - far ahead of anything else out there.

Regards

[cynthia_old]

My experiment was that I checked the settings prior to launching DVD Decrypter thru ripit4me and compare them to when DVD Decrypter was launched by ripit4me.

[jeanl]

I know from jsoto that some players have problem with very small cells. I think RI4M can create such small cells, but I don't quite remember in which circumstances.... :(
Jeanl

[setarip_old]

@jeanlI think RI4M can create such small cellsIf so, this is likely what's creating the playback problem only on my SONY. Thanks for the insight ;>}, but I don't quite remember in which circumstancesif you should remember, it would be great to know for future reference...

[writersblock29]

Jeanl, you might be thinking of the option Ripit4Me has to remove tiny cells -- but VERY good thinking on your part; I once had a similiar issue with small cells using DVD Remake before re-encoding. In fact, I beleive there was a bugfix in DVD Remake to correct this at one time.

Setarip_old, open your copy of Ripit4Me, and go to Logs/Settings and open Preferences. If, by chance, the option to "remove tiny cells" is unchecked, try checking it. Then you can re-rip one of your problematical disks back to hard drive, burn that to a RW, and see if your problem's gone. (Assuming that your Sony's less picky than mine and will play a RW, of course.)

[laserfan]

Again a backup of the same DVD, done using only DVD9Copy, plays perfectly on the same SONY standalone (as does the original, commercial DVD)... Have you looked at the main PGC of each to see how/if they differ? I mean, to look at whether both have the very same # of cells, and their cell commands.

I do recall an earlier version of RI4M (and possibly older/flawed DVD-RB Pro 1.9.3--not sure about this) that actually caused my Sony to turn off! Along w/garbage cells up-front, they had cell commands of 10 which my Sonys don't like very much.

[laserfan]

...If, by chance, the option to "remove tiny cells" is unchecked, try checking it...Yes, but as I noted somewhere else here, and blutach straigtened me out, "remove tiny cells" in FixVTS does not remove every "tiny cell". I had to use the PSL2 plugin in PgcEdit to identify and remove extra junk cells that were causing at least one of my Sonys to choke (though a different symptom than setarip_old described).

My next player will not be a Sony! :p

[blutach]

Both my SONYs play tiny cells no issue. However, many (usually older) players do have issues with tinys (this is a major reason we see LinkTailPGC commands in the previous cell).

There is quite an extensive FAQ on the RipIt4Me (http://www.ripit4me.org/) site about the removal of tiny cells, for those interested (FAQ 19).

However, the new Jump To Menu feature really looks like a winner. It puts an end to all this hopping around the disk and gets you straight to the first menu that has buttons. I tested this yesterday and the registers are exactly the same as if the DVD had played its way to the menu. This is in sharp distinction to AnyDVD, which (incorrectly) simply directs the DVD to play the menu/title.

Regards

[blutach]

Version 1.4.15 is out (when will they get to 1.5? :D)

Regards

Version 1.4.15.0 (28 September 2006)
This is a quick update to yield a nicer, cleaner rip with Final Destination 3, R2. This version can also be tested on Silent Hill R2 - German version. It should be able to create a psl, but this hasn't been tested. Not sure if the cleanup will work.
Fixed (or tried to fix) a problem that occurs when copying the original IFOs from the disc (some failed to be copied). In any case, if this happens, RipIt4Me no longer crashes. We found this problem using the debug logs, so keep them coming!
Improved the robustness of the code to seriously malformed IFOs.
Added IFO/BUP patching: Bad IFO files are replaced with the corresponding BUPs.
Useless menu cells that have commands are now also blanked (they were not in previous versions) if you have that option enabled. This yields a cleaner backup.
Added option in the preference to blank bogus VTSs even if there are valid or referenced ones after them. This is only active in full DVD mode. Unlike the option to remove bogus titlesets, it is not limited to the last titlesets, and it leaves a valid menu domain + IFOs. This also will yield a much cleaner backup.
The goto command used in the blanking code was sometime erroneous. This has been fixed.
Put the process info back at the top of the debug log.

[blutach]

If you don't know already v1.5 is out. Appears to take care of Silent Hill R2 (Germany)

Regards

Version 1.5.0.0 (6 October 2006)
Not too many new features, but an improved robustness to severely twisted DVDs such as the one that recently appeared in Germany :).
Also, thanks to the debug logs, we have been able to determine that many of the crashes seen as far back as version 1.0.0.0 were due to a failure to copy and analyse the IFOs off the disc before the rip.
This version should be a lot more gracious when such problems occur. We're still working on a definitive cure.
Added display of space saved during removal of bogus VTS(s) and blanking of useless VTS(s).
Improved code that detects the movie type, by allowing a mismatch of 1 cell in multi-story DVDs (Puerto Vallarta Squeeze R1) and fixed a small bug that could cause episodic DVDs to be mis-identified.
The code that loads the IFOs now checks and fixes the various tables's end address values.
In Movie+Menus mode, the DVD analysis is now done *after* blanking rather than before. This is better because the analysis now reflects what happens in the final DVD.
This will make a difference in those rare DVDs that have menus in the title domain.
Added option in the INI file to select which function to use to copy the original IFOs.
You can try to switch if you get an error message "ERROR: video_ts.ifo declares X VTS, and I'm finding only Y on the disc".
UseMSFuncToCopyIFOs = 1 will use the Microsoft API. Set it 0 to use a custom copy function that reads directly from the ISO file system. It's 0 by default.
Added code to always unlock the tray when aborting DVD Decrypter.
BUP files that are abnormally large are now excluded from the rip.
Improved the IFO patching code.
Fixed a bug that could cause RI4M to crash when loading empty IFOs.
Added more graceful failure when not enough memory can be allocated during the analysis.
Fixed a potentially serious bug that could cause a PGC to be flagged as unvisited, despite the fact that it was! This was causing a wrong problem message in RV
In the jump to menu routine, the SetSTN commands are no longer inserted if the target menu is in the Video Manager domain.

[deuce2]

I just tried to rip Ghost Breakers with RipIt4Me Ver. 1.5 and I got the message that there was "no DVD drive". The dialog says:

"RipIt4Me Version 1.5.0.0
Starting Wizard at 21:37:13
Running Windows XP Service Pack 2
FixVTS version: 1.5.0.0 -- All OK
DVD Decrypter version: 3.5.4.0
DVD Shrink version 3.2.0.15

Ripping mode: Movie only
Main title(s):
Remove Protected Cells = on
Remove Tiny Cells = on
Remove Useless Menu Cells = on
Remove Last VTS = off
Blank bogus VTS = on
Run FixVTS on full DVD = on
Rip JACKET_P folder = off
Copying original IFOs into target directory
0 IFOs copied.

Wizard Step 2: PSL file creation
DVD Volume Label: GHOSTBREAKERS
Loading IFOs
There does not seem to be a DVD in your selected drive"

So I jumped onto my favorite forum and did a search and found messages re: this problem here (a few months old). I guess there is still a bug in the program. I was able to rip it using DVDFab Decrypter just fine.

[blutach]

The release notes to 1.5 said change the line in your INI file to

UseMSFuncToCopyIFOs = 1

It's clear your IFOs aren't being copied, so try that.

Regards

[blutach]

Version 1.5.1.0 is out

Regards

Changelog

Added code to exclude from rip any file whose starting sector is beyond what's legit for a double-layer DVD.
Added code to M+M mode: When a menu in the title domain is found to be missing (this is quite rare), RI4M re-rips VTSs smaller than 500MB to find the missing menu, then blanks anything else that's not needed.
When launching tools, the path is now enclosed between quotes so paths with spaces now work OK.
RipIt4Me now asks for FixVTS 1.6
The button info file now includes human-readable translations of commands.
In the Jump to menu function, for the rare cases where the target menu is in the manager and if a title is visited before the main menu, the SetSTN command is inserted in the title's precommand instead of in the manager (where it's illegal).

[Big_Berny]

Hi,
really nice software! I uploaded it to our homepage and wrote a small guide. http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/34251.asp

Nevertheless a little suggestion: It would be useful if FixVTS would be recognized if it is in the same folder than RipIt4Me.

Regards
Big_Berny

[blutach]

You can do that in the preferences Big_Berny.

Regards

[Big_Berny]

Yes, I know! It would just be useful if it would be recognized automatically if it is in the same folder.

Big_Berny

[blutach]

New version out today

Regards

Version 1.5.2.0 (EDIT: 17 October 2006)


Added option to start DVD Shrink's deep analysis automatically. Set RunDVDShrinkDeepAnalysis = 1 in the .ini file for that to happen.
Added a temporary dropdown in the preferences to select how the original IFOs are copied from the disc. Normally, you should keep it set to "normal mode". But if RipIt4Me gives you error messages such as "video_ts.ifo declares 6 VTS, and I'm finding only 2 on the disc", you can try using the microsoft API, or DVD Decrypter. You might still get the error message in Step 1 (when selecting the target directory etc), but hopefully not when creating the PSL.
We will fix these rare problems in a future release.
The command cleanup code was not cleaning up post commands. This has been fixed.
The RipIt4Me version is now displayed at the top of the debug log.
Fixed a rare problem that could occur in in Movie+Menus mode, when there are "similar" movie PGCs in the same VTS (for example duplicates or multi-story) and one of them is not visited. RipIt4Me could erroneously report that the movie was not referenced. As long as at least 1 of the "equivalent" PGC is played, the M+M rip is judged successful.
Fixed a little bug in the routine that checks for scratches in Movie-Only mode. This should fix the Click and Death Tunnel movie-only problems.
Fixed a bug that could cause the Jump To Menu function to be activated on Movie-Only rips.

[feedback]

Version 1.5.2.0 (27 October 2006)
Wow Les, I must have had more than one beer last night because I thought it was October 17th and here it is the 27th.:eek: :D
Just Kidding. ;)

[blutach]

Excuse my stupid typo :) PS. Pi continues on for a while :D

Regards

[chipzoller]

Does Ripit4Me work just as well in ISO mode as in Movie or full disc mode? By work just as well I mean does it remove the same amount and kind of protection, etc.? Or can it only handle certain things in ISO mode?

[nwg]

Does Ripit4Me work just as well in ISO mode as in Movie or full disc mode? By work just as well I mean does it remove the same amount and kind of protection, etc.? Or can it only handle certain things in ISO mode?

RipIt4Me will rip any DVD in ISO mode. It is also the best way to rip a Arcoss DVD to transfer 1:1 to a DL+R.

[bourtzovlakas]

In ISO mode, nothing is removed, in terms of structural protection...
Only unreadable/bad sectors are replaced by dummies...

[Digga]

v1.5.3.0 has been released.

changelog:
* Fixed a bug that could cause the navigation to get messed up when removing useless menu cells if some of the other cells had LinkCN or LinkPG commands in them.
* Added a check for unreferenced titlesets (titlesets that are not referenced by any command in the DVD). If the new option ExcludeUnreferencedTitlesets = 1 in the .ini, these unreferenced titlesets are excluded from the rip.
If needed, video_ts.vob is pre-ripped to double check that the titlesets are indeed unreferenced. This will make ripping faster for protected DVDs that include fully unreferenced titlesets. The option is 1 by default but only available in Full mode and in Movie+Menus mode.
* Added cleanup of JUMPSS_VTSM commands that call a menu in a removed VTS.
* Added code to help locate FixVTS: RI4M first look in C:\Program Files\\PgcEdit\\plugins\\FixVTS.exe then in the app directory itself, then in the directory pointed to by the registry key [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\RipIt4Me].
* The UI now indicates progress when loading the ripped DVD and searching for BOVs in Step 3.
* The FixVTS settings in Step 1 are no longer visible if ISO mode is selected.
* Improved robustness to messed up DVDs such as the Flux DVDs (still some way to go yet).
* Added a "Open debug log" menu item to the Log/Settings menu.

[blutach]

Version 1.5.4 is out

Regards
- This version uses a new algorithm for creating the PSL. This should make it more robust to completely screwed up DVDs.
- Fixed a bug that could cause crashes during the blanking. This was responsible for some of the reported crashes.
- Added debug log to saved logs. This will help us a lot. Just zip up your saved log folder and post that if you have a problem (see FAQ 8).
- In ISO mode, the logs are now saved to a folder based on the name of the target rip folder (as in all other modes).
- When RipIt4Me can't copy all the IFOs, the user now has the option to see FAQ 21.
- Fixed a bug that could cause problems during the copying of the IFOs in ISO mode.
- Fixed a de-allocation problem that could occur when launching other processing.
- Fixed a bug that could cause the CRC32 value to not be correct when copying the IFOs using DVD Decrypter.
- Added LinkNextPC and LinkNextCell to button commands that prevent removing a menu cell.
- Added -p flag to arguments to FixVTS to force fixing of bad PGC LBA pointers.

[blutach]

And now version 1.5.5 with the long awaited support for Win9x/Me.

Regards

Version 1.5.5.0 (10 November 2006)
- This is the first version that works under win 95, win 98, and win ME. It is still a beta version (not so easy to find testers with such systems! :))
- The code now uses SPTI (or ASPI on win9x and winME) to copy the original IFOs. This should help a lot to eliminate problems related to "not able to copy all IFOs" (these problems are rare, but seem to occur on some systems). There's still a selector in the preferences to chose which code to use to copy the IFOs, but it is reset to SPTI when you update.

[LoloMc]

Hello world !

Blutach, do you know if it is in the mind of the dev to (try to) make it work on Linux 32 bits by using wine ?
I'd love to see it working. I didn't ask anything until today because I were hoping that it will work when the Win98/Me release would exist.... Unfortunately, I tried it this evening, changing all the parameters I could in the WineConfig but it don't want to work... And *.log is empty (so this is not the best)
(Of course, DVDShrink, FixVTS and DVDDecrypter reading capabilities are working perfectly - But I'm not able to make imgburn and DVDDecrypter find a burner (no devices detected.))

If this is not in the pipe, I could understand but I hope :)

Regards,

[blutach]

@LoloMc

I am sorry, but like everyone else, I do not know who the author is. He (or she) seems to lurk the major forums though, as suggestions are quickly implemented.

Regards

[LoloMc]

@LoloMc

I am sorry, but like everyone else, I do not know who the author is. He (or she) seems to lurk the major forums though, as suggestions are quickly implemented.

Regards

Ok, thank you Blutach...
So maybe I'll see in a few days on the RipIt4Me website that he (or she) plans to add wine compatibilities....

Just in case, I can tell that when I click on any button, CPU goes to 100% for 6-7 secondes and everything crash with an empty log. (Even when I ran it from "sudo")

With an old release (I can't remember witch one for now, But as there is still a possibility to download old releases, I'll test when I'll have a little more time) I was able to launch the program in Wizard mode, and it was able to give the PSL file to dvddecrypter before crashing.

I need time before I can investigate a little more. But I'll do it in a near futur.

Regards,

[LoloMc]

I've launched it with the keyboard and this what I have :
Maybe any help ?

Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
wine: Call from 0x401bca to unimplemented function MFC42.DLL.6880, aborting
wine: Unimplemented function MFC42.DLL.6880 called at address 0x401bca (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: unimplemented function MFC42.DLL.6880 called in 32-bit code (0x7bc36607).
Register dump:
CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:003b GS:0033
EIP:7bc36607 ESP:00aca97c EBP:00aca9e0 EFLAGS:00200212( - 00 - -IA1)
EAX:00001ae0 EBX:7bc74280 ECX:00ad3a0c EDX:00000002
ESI:00aca988 EDI:7ee8fb8b
Stack dump:
0x00aca97c: 00acaa00 00000002 00aca9a4 80000100
0x00aca98c: 00000001 00000000 00401bca 00000002
0x00aca99c: 0042e82c 00001ae0 00aca9e4 7ee8fbfd
0x00aca9ac: 00010066 00000000 00acaa00 00000002
0x00aca9bc: 001bcec0 001bcec0 001bcec0 5f401299
0x00aca9cc: 00ad3a0c 001a9c40 5f4011a7 00000000
fixme:ntdll:RtlNtStatusToDosErrorNoTeb no mapping for c0000119
Backtrace:
=>1 0x7bc36607 call_dll_entry_point+0x67 in ntdll (0x00aca9e0)
2 0x00401bca in ripit4me (+0x1bca) (0x00acaa50)
3 0x7ee91e0b WINPROC_wrapper+0x73b in user32 (0x00acaa90)
4 0x7ee95aa7 WINPROC_CallDlgProcA+0x57 in user32 (0x00acaad0)
5 0x7ee2abe9 DefDlgProcA+0x84 in user32 (0x00acab00)
6 0x7ee916ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x1a in user32 (0x00acab30)
7 0x7ee935f3 in user32 (+0xa35f3) (0x00acab70)
8 0x7ee95c0a CallWindowProcA+0x57 in user32 (0x00acabb0)
err:dbghelp:pe_load_dbg_file -Unable to peruse .DBG file MFC42.dbg ("")
9 0x5f402783 in mfc42 (+0x2783) (0x00acabd0)
10 0x5f40178d in mfc42 (+0x178d) (0x00acac70)
11 0x5f40230b in mfc42 (+0x230b) (0x00acac90)
12 0x5f402294 in mfc42 (+0x2294) (0x00acacf0)
13 0x5f40221f in mfc42 (+0x221f) (0x00acad0c)
14 0x5f4021d6 in mfc42 (+0x21d6) (0x00acad38)
15 0x7ee916ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x1a in user32 (0x00acad68)
16 0x7ee935f3 in user32 (+0xa35f3) (0x00acada8)
17 0x7ee962bb in user32 (+0xa62bb) (0x00acb458)
18 0x7ee96d08 CallWindowProcW+0xb3 in user32 (0x00acb498)
19 0x7ee60e86 in user32 (+0x70e86) (0x00acb508)
20 0x7ee646ea SendMessageTimeoutW+0x191 in user32 (0x00acb568)
21 0x7ee64749 SendMessageW+0x50 in user32 (0x00acb5a8)
22 0x7ee30f7b in user32 (+0x40f7b) (0x00acb758)
23 0x7ee31cb3 CreateDialogIndirectParamAorW+0x3e in user32 (0x00acb778)
24 0x7ee31dc8 CreateDialogIndirectParamA+0x41 in user32 (0x00acb7a8)
25 0x5f40bc7b in mfc42 (+0xbc7b) (0x00acb810)
26 0x5f404ff4 in mfc42 (+0x4ff4) (0x7ee669a6)
27 0xec815356 (0x57e58955)
28 0x00000000 (0x00000000)
0x7bc36607 call_dll_entry_point+0x67 in ntdll: subl $4,%esp
Modules:
Module Address Debug info Name (83 modules)
PE 400000-525000 Export ripit4me
PE 5f400000-5f4ed000 Export mfc42
ELF 7b800000-7b917000 Deferred kernel32<elf>
\-PE 7b820000-7b917000 \ kernel32
ELF 7bc00000-7bc7f000 Export ntdll<elf>
\-PE 7bc10000-7bc7f000 \ ntdll
ELF 7bf00000-7bf03000 Deferred <wine-loader>
ELF 7e33c000-7e37f000 Deferred riched20<elf>
\-PE 7e350000-7e37f000 \ riched20
ELF 7e37f000-7e393000 Deferred riched32<elf>
\-PE 7e390000-7e393000 \ riched32
ELF 7e393000-7e3a8000 Deferred midimap<elf>
\-PE 7e3a0000-7e3a8000 \ midimap
ELF 7e3ce000-7e3e6000 Deferred msacm32<elf>
\-PE 7e3d0000-7e3e6000 \ msacm32
ELF 7e3e6000-7e422000 Deferred wineoss<elf>
\-PE 7e3f0000-7e422000 \ wineoss
ELF 7e454000-7e486000 Deferred uxtheme<elf>
\-PE 7e460000-7e486000 \ uxtheme
ELF 7e488000-7e48d000 Deferred libxfixes.so.3
ELF 7e48d000-7e496000 Deferred libxcursor.so.1
ELF 7e496000-7e49e000 Deferred libxrender.so.1
ELF 7e49e000-7e4ba000 Deferred imm32<elf>
\-PE 7e4b0000-7e4ba000 \ imm32
ELF 7e4ba000-7e4d8000 Deferred ximcp.so.2
ELF 7e4d8000-7e578000 Deferred libgl.so.1
ELF 7e578000-7e641000 Deferred libx11.so.6
ELF 7e641000-7e64e000 Deferred libxext.so.6
ELF 7e64e000-7e666000 Deferred libice.so.6
ELF 7e666000-7e6f2000 Deferred winex11<elf>
\-PE 7e680000-7e6f2000 \ winex11
ELF 7e6f2000-7e710000 Deferred libexpat.so.1
ELF 7e710000-7e73f000 Deferred libfontconfig.so.1
ELF 7e73f000-7e753000 Deferred libz.so.1
ELF 7e753000-7e7bd000 Deferred libfreetype.so.6
ELF 7e7bd000-7e81f000 Deferred msvcrt<elf>
\-PE 7e7d0000-7e81f000 \ msvcrt
ELF 7e81f000-7e8a7000 Deferred winmm<elf>
\-PE 7e830000-7e8a7000 \ winmm
ELF 7e8a7000-7e8bb000 Deferred lz32<elf>
\-PE 7e8b0000-7e8bb000 \ lz32
ELF 7e8bb000-7e8d4000 Deferred version<elf>
\-PE 7e8c0000-7e8d4000 \ version
ELF 7e8d4000-7e995000 Deferred comctl32<elf>
\-PE 7e8e0000-7e995000 \ comctl32
ELF 7e995000-7ea7c000 Deferred shell32<elf>
\-PE 7e9b0000-7ea7c000 \ shell32
ELF 7ea7c000-7ea8f000 Deferred libresolv.so.2
ELF 7ea8f000-7eaae000 Deferred iphlpapi<elf>
\-PE 7eaa0000-7eaae000 \ iphlpapi
ELF 7eaae000-7eb00000 Deferred rpcrt4<elf>
\-PE 7eac0000-7eb00000 \ rpcrt4
ELF 7eb00000-7eb91000 Deferred ole32<elf>
\-PE 7eb10000-7eb91000 \ ole32
ELF 7eb91000-7ebe7000 Deferred shlwapi<elf>
\-PE 7eba0000-7ebe7000 \ shlwapi
ELF 7ebe7000-7ec2b000 Deferred advapi32<elf>
\-PE 7ebf0000-7ec2b000 \ advapi32
ELF 7ec2b000-7ec36000 Deferred libgcc_s.so.1
ELF 7ec37000-7ec39000 Deferred xlcutf8load.so.2
ELF 7ec39000-7ec3c000 Deferred libxinerama.so.1
ELF 7ec3c000-7ec45000 Deferred libsm.so.6
ELF 7ed24000-7edd7000 Deferred gdi32<elf>
\-PE 7ed40000-7edd7000 \ gdi32
ELF 7edd7000-7ef09000 Export user32<elf>
\-PE 7edf0000-7ef09000 \ user32
ELF 7ef09000-7ef28000 Deferred mpr<elf>
\-PE 7ef10000-7ef28000 \ mpr
ELF 7ef28000-7ef6f000 Deferred wininet<elf>
\-PE 7ef30000-7ef6f000 \ wininet
ELF 7efaa000-7efb5000 Deferred libnss_files.so.2
ELF 7efb5000-7efcb000 Deferred libnsl.so.1
ELF 7efcb000-7eff1000 Deferred libm.so.6
ELF 7eff1000-7eff6000 Deferred libxdmcp.so.6
ELF 7eff6000-7f000000 Deferred libnss_nis.so.2
ELF b7cd0000-b7cd9000 Deferred libnss_compat.so.2
ELF b7cda000-b7cde000 Deferred libdl.so.2
ELF b7cde000-b7e12000 Deferred libc.so.6
ELF b7e12000-b7e25000 Deferred libpthread.so.0
ELF b7e25000-b7e28000 Deferred libxau.so.6
ELF b7e28000-b7e2d000 Deferred libxxf86vm.so.1
ELF b7e34000-b7f45000 Deferred libwine.so.1
ELF b7f47000-b7f62000 Deferred ld-linux.so.2
Threads:
process tid prio (all id:s are in hex)
0000000a
0000000c 0
0000000b 0
00000008 (D) C:\Program Files\RipIt4Me\RipIt4Me\RipIt4Me.exe
00000009 0 <==

[deuce2]

@LoloMC

@LoloMc

I am sorry, but like everyone else, I do not know who the author is. He (or she) seems to lurk the major forums though, as suggestions are quickly implemented.

Regards

If you haven't already done so, you might want to check out this forum http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=477277#poststop at Digital Digest. The RipIt4Me forum is quite robust there and perhaps the author (he or she) might be "lurking" there.

Regards and good luck.:)

[LoloMc]

@LoloMC



If you haven't already done so, you might want to check out this forum http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=477277#poststop at Digital Digest. The RipIt4Me forum is quite robust there and perhaps the author (he or she) might be "lurking" there.

Regards and good luck.:)

Thank you Deuce2,

Because the program asked me several time to post my empty log in the Digital Forum, I have starting a thread (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=73855)with many tests I made there.
I'm waiting to have a little more time to try several others various combinations.

What would be very nice would be that the author just put on the website that he wants or not to try to make it work using wine...

Regards,

[blutach]

New version is out

Regards

Version 1.5.6.0 (16 November 2006)

Fixed a serious bug that could cause crashes during the analysis if a cell was assigned a command that did not exist. This was the case for "Thirteen Ghosts", thanks for the bug report! Keep them coming!
Fixed the problem that some users were having with 1.5.5.0 ("Cannot read sector 16"). The problem should no longer occur, but just in case...
If you get "Cannot read sector 16 errors", selecting "Microsoft API" in the preferences will revert to the "old" way of accessing the DVD (1.5.4.0). This is temporary, until we can confirm that the read error has been eradicated!
The audio and subpic attributes were not always modified in video_ts.ifo. This is now fixed.

[deuce2]

This just in from RipIt4Me:

"18 November: Version 1.5.7.0 is out. Fixed the no disc in drive bug"

[LoloMc]

22 November: For all those who asked - we are working on a Linux implementation. Stay tuned.

Keep checking back here regularly to find out what's happening with RipIt4Me!

:):):):):):):):):):):):):)

[deuce2]

@LoloMc

Where should we "keep checking back here regularly"? Seeing as how Vista is going to be the next generation of Windows :( , I was thinking that my next system will have to include Linux.

Update: Nevermind I found it at the source at the RipIt4Me website http://www.ripit4me.org/index.html

[blutach]

Version 1.6.0 is out

Regards

Version 1.6.0.0 (2 December 2006)

* This is the first version of RipIt4Me that works under Linux/Wine. Thanks to all the testers!
* Made RipIt4Me better handle multiple sets of buttons in a menu. This solves the Easter Egg problem in Cars.
* Fixed a problem with DVDs that have a very large number of buttons. The cleanup no longer fails, but might take a bit longer.
* Improved the analysis to handle DVDs that have large numbers of menus (Ice Age 2 for example).
* The "Next" button in Step 1 no longer can be pressed if a valid DVD isn't present in the selected drive.
* RipIt4Me now checks for CeEKey.exe on startup, and offers to kill the process. CeEKey.exe has been found to potentially create problems when the PSL file is imported.
* Fixed a problem in Step 1 that could prevent RipIt4Me from creating the target rip directory in ISO mode, if automatic naming was selected with the VIDEO_TS folder option.
* Incorporated better code to detect the state of the drive in Step 1.

[blutach]

Version 1.6.1.0 is out. It seems the issue with Attack Force requires a DVD Decrypter setting to be turned off.

Regards

* Added a more thorough removal for useless titlesets that are not the last ones. This should fix the problem with Attack Force. NOTE: for that DVD, to avoid crashing DVD Decrypter, it is important to uncheck the "Check for structure protection" option in DVD Decrypter (see below).
* Removed override of "check for structure protection" in DVD Decrypter. If you get EAccessViolation errors when DVD Decrypter checks for structure protection, disable the "Check for structure protection" in Decrypter's settings.
* Added up/down/left/right, and forced action flag to button info. This will make debugging easier.
* Attempted to solve the "No drive" problem that some people are encountering. If this still happens to you, please post your debug log, we've added some debug info to help figure out what the problem is.
* Improved the analysis algorithm.
* The number of audio/subpicture streams is no longer set to 0 in the domain attributes, unless all the PGCs are dummies.

[setarip_old]

NOTE: for that DVD, to avoid crashing DVD Decrypter, it is important to uncheck the "Check for structure protection" option in DVD Decrypter...Upon completion of the rip, does "RipIt4Me" return this category (as it does others) to its "checked" (rather than "unchecked" state) - or is this something the user must remember to do manually?

[bourtzovlakas]

If you un-check it manually, you 'll have to re-check it manually...
Common sense...

[setarip_old]

@bourtzovlakasIf you un-check it manually, you 'll have to re-check it manually...
Common sense...Is this confirmed somewhere by the author(s) - or a supposition on your part?

Would that it was always true that common sense proved to be the deciding factor in program structure or, for that matter, life itself ;>}

[nwg]

I have had Structure protection unchecked in DVD D for ages and it turns on when using RipIt. I put everything through RipIt. It is unchecked when I go into DVD D when RipIt is not running.

[blutach]

Look at the version history folks.

- Removed override of "check for structure protection" in DVD Decrypter.If you uncheck it, it stays unchecked from now on.

Given the way RipIt4Me seems to work, I doubt it actually does anything useful anymore, except it used to report on "suspect areas". But, we all know that RipIt4Me makes a PSL that covers the whole DVD with suspect areas. So check for structure protection might be out of date. Just supposing.

Regards

[setarip_old]

we all know that RipIt4Me makes a PSL that covers the whole DVD with suspect areas. So check for structure protection might be out of dateI rather doubt that, for two reasons:

1) Based on the post by "NWG", there must have been a reason "RipIt4Me" was making sure that "Check for structure protection" was turned ON and

2) If it were no longer useful to "RipIt4Me", I'm sure the "RipIt4Me" author(s) would have simply changed the "override" to always changing the "Check for structure protection" to the turned OFF(unchecked) position - rather than stating that this SPECIFIC DVD requires turning it off and that the "override" has been removed...

[nwg]

RipIt is turning Structure Protection on when I have it turned off in DVD D and then off again when it exits.

[setarip_old]

RipIt is turning Structure Protection on when I have it turned off in DVD D and then off again when it exits.Yes - and that's why I believe "RipIT4Me" needs to have "Check for structure protection" turned ON when you're using "RipIt4Me"

[blutach]

Might be useful to do some experiements with an ARccOS DVD with and without it on.

The Initial PSL file does cover all the cells though and that's all the suspect areas.

Regards

[jinjin_jp]

I examinesd the Initial PSL file.
It covers all the cells of Movie-VOB and blank sectors, but not of Menu-VOB and IFO/BUP files.
If bad sectors are in Menu-VOB, I think it has the problem. Isn't it possibility?

[blutach]

I suppose it is in time jinjin_jp. I guess the author will need to address that when the time comes.

Regards

[jinjin_jp]

And it is strange that VIDEO_TS.VOB is not ripped about "Attack Force" like this http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=486272&postcount=118

PS: I have curious about "Attack Force", so ordered it and I'll try when reach to me.

Regards.

[blutach]

VIDEO_TS.VOB needs to be ripped because VTS 15 is unreferenced. A lot of the logs I have seen rip this if there is an unreferenced titleset. So, something isn't quite right yet :(

I wonder if it works in the other modes - movie and menus, movie only and ISO.

Regards

[setarip_old]

I just read some of the other posts in the thread referred to by "jinjin_jp" at:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=486272&postcount=118

And, if I interpret them correctly. v.1.6.1.0 does not properly rip "Attack Force" in "Full DVD" mode (The rip generates an error in DVD Shrink).

Hopefully, this will be resolved in the near future...

[blutach]

Version 1.6.2 is out - apparently solely to correct the bug in full disk ripping.

Hope it works, Seagal fans :)

Regards

[blutach]

And now Version 1.6.3.0 to correct another bug

Regards
- Fixed a problem introduced in 1.6.2.0 which could cause a bad structure on some DVDs (such as Cars).
- Added UseOldCheckCode option in .ini file: if RipIt4Me can't detect the DVD or the Drive, you can set this option to 1 to use the "old" code, until we pinpoint and fix the problem.

[Chainmax]

RipIt4Me gives me an error message when reaching the IFO cleanup stage on my "Robot Chicken Season 1" DVDs. If I skip it and just use FixVTS everything seems to go ok though. I use the "Full DVD" ripping mode and on the DVDDecrypter stage swithc to IFO mode and select a single episode, so the lack of HDD space (only 4GB left) shouldn't be an issue. What do you think could be causing this?

[blutach]

Switching to IFO mode is your issue. You need a full structure. If you wanna use IFO mode, you actually need not use RipIt4Me. Just select the cells you wanna rip and go ahead.

Regards

[JarrettH]

Hi Blutach

I think for episodic DVDs you should allow to pick from the drop down. I was trying rip the original version of Apocalypse Now but it kept selecting Redux (thinking it's the main movie because it's longer).


:D

[sillKotscha]

Hi Blutach

I think for episodic DVDs you should allow to pick from the drop down...

maybe blutach is deeply involved into development (pure guessing though...) but I wouldn't go as far as calling him (indirectly) the author ;)

[blutach]

I am not involved in the development :)

Jarrett, maybe rip the whole DVD and blank out the eps/titles you don't want with VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm). Very quick.

Regards

[Chainmax]

Switching to IFO mode is your issue. You need a full structure. If you wanna use IFO mode, you actually need not use RipIt4Me. Just select the cells you wanna rip and go ahead.

Regards

The problem is that I want to rip one episode at a time because I have precious little HDD space left. I would like to have both RipIt4Me and FixVTS clean the VOBs.

[windyfir]

The problem is that I want to rip one episode at a time because I have precious little HDD space left. I would like to have both RipIt4Me and FixVTS clean the VOBs.



Free DVDFab Decrypter will allow you to rip one episode at a time, then run FixVTS
http://www.dvdidle.com/free.htm

Best regards, windyfir

[Chainmax]

Thanks :).

[MacAddict]

Many thanks for this essential tool folks!

Any chance of being able to look at a 'source folder' where our VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS already reside? DVDShrink allows this and wasn't sure how to make that work in RipIt4Me :-)

[blutach]

Not sure what you mean, but RipIt4Me has a preference when creating the target folder to have it in a VIDEO_TS folder.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@MacAddict

Hi!

If you mean will "RipIt4Me" initially rip files from a hard drive, unfortunately, the answer is "No".

The first steps in its usage (using the "RipIt4me" program and then "DVD Decrypter") will only work with a DVD in either a DVD-ROM or DVD burner (or, perhaps, it might be cajoled into working with a "mounted" ISO image file)...

[MacAddict]

Sorry for not making myself clear this AM, I was late for work :-\

@setarip_old
Yes, thats what I was meaning actually. It would be nice to rip from a folder on a hard drive. For the moment, I'm ripping from an image via DaemonTools or just ripping from DVD-ROM.

[setarip_old]

But typically, if you already have it on your hard drive, your DVD has already been ripped. So why would you need to use "RipIt4Me"?

[BigDid]

After reading this news (thanks Les): http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=120521 , I went to the official site which has link only for the 1.4.6.3
Edited: cache problem, the 1.6.4.0 is available at: http://www.ripit4me.org/download.php

For the installer: http://www.ripit4me.org/RipIt4Me%20Installer.exe

Did

[setarip_old]

@BigDid

Hi!So, at this date, the only way to download the 1.6.4.0 is to use the installerThis is incorrect. I just downloaded v.1.6.4.0 from:

www.ripit4me.org

[blutach]

I think you need to clear your cache BigDid.

Regards

[BigDid]

I think you need to clear your cache BigDid.

Regards
Yep, my bad :o

Have edited previous post accordingly.

Did

[Chainmax]

Free DVDFab Decrypter will allow you to rip one episode at a time, then run FixVTS
http://www.dvdidle.com/free.htm

Best regards, windyfir

Come to think about it, I can still use DVDDecrypter to rip and then run FixVTS afterwards. Thing is, doing this I would miss RipIt4Me's own cleanup phase. Would it be possible to add a new ripping mode that would allow to select IFO mode on the DVDDecrypter stage?

[setarip_old]

Come to think about it, I can still use DVDDecrypter to rip and then run FixVTS afterwards.That is incorrect. DVDDecrypter will grind to a halt if you directly use it with an "ARccOS" copy-protected DVD...

[Chainmax]

I didn't know that. It would still mean missing RipIt4Me's own cleanup phase, though.

[JarrettH]

FixVTS has been updated fyi :cool:

[Chainmax]

The homepage appears to have had its account cancelled, so I doubt we'll see an updated installer with the new FixVTS anytime soon :(.

[setarip_old]

@Chainmax

The homepage for FixVTS has been and continues to be up and running at:

http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/

What makes you say, "The homepage appears to have had its account cancelled"

[kurt]

http://www.ripit4me.org/ is down...

[manolito]

http://www.ripit4me.org/ is down...
Not anymore.... :D

[Chainmax]

Nice, thanks for the heads-up :) http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/wink/thumb.gif.

[edit]
I hope the installer is updated with FixVTS v1.6.0.3 soon :).

[kurt]

Not anymore.... :D
Just cleared my browser cache and here in Germany the site ist still down (shows Canaca.com banner).
Could be a DNS issue.

[Gary D]

Here is version 1.6.4.0 as a Zip

[MuttLover]

I just tried downloading from the original download site posted. It is down with a message "contact billing as soon as possible".

You can download it here:
( Update 10 January to v1.6.4.0 )

http://www.ripit4me.org/download.html

[blutach]

Softpedia still carries the download (it seems the RipIt4Me server has intermittant problems)

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Encoders-Converter-DIVX-Related/RipIt4Me.shtml

Regards

[kurt]

There has been an update:

25 January: Version 1.6.5 is released. Another big changelog including improved BOV scanning, better and faster ripping of highly corrupted DVDs, better handling of game DVDs and the ability to run RipIt4Me in your own langauge (translaters wanted!). Note this version is also VISTA compatible.

full Changelog (http://www.ripit4me.org/changelog.html)

http://www.ripit4me.org/

[Digga]

v1.6.6.0 is out.

* Quick bug fix for the Win9x mess. Sorry about that.
1.6.5.0 wasn't working under win 9x. It should work now.
* If there's not enough room in the target directory for the ripped files, the user can now decide to abort or continue;
* Added strings for update dialogs.

[Digga]

and another update post ;)

v1.6.7.0 has been released.
http://www.ripit4me.org/changelog.html

[Boulder]

v1.6.7.0 didn't work for me. When I fire up the 1-click rip and DVD Decrypter opens, it doesn't load the psl file and the RipIt4Me window freezes. Even if I load the psl file manually and the rip from the DVD is successful, RipIt4Me doesn't wake up. v1.6.6.0 works fine.

[setarip_old]

v1.6.7.0 didn't work for me. When I fire up the 1-click rip and DVD Decrypter opens, it doesn't load the psl file and the RipIt4Me window freezes.I believe that same problem with this version has been reported at other forums as well.

Perhaps the updates are being rushed out a bit now...

[MacAddict]

1.6.7.0 works perfectly for me. Previous versions would sometimes not automatically load the psl files, so far no issues here with the latest.

[Sn8kbordin]

v1.6.7.0 didn't work for me. When I fire up the 1-click rip and DVD Decrypter opens, it doesn't load the psl file and the RipIt4Me window freezes. Even if I load the psl file manually and the rip from the DVD is successful, RipIt4Me doesn't wake up. v1.6.6.0 works fine.

I have the same problem. I went back to previous version.

[blutach]

@Boulder and Sn8kbordin

There is a new beta posted on the website that may address these issues. You might try it and see how it goes.

Regards

[cwl7454]

Had problems with 1.6.6 not opening; had v1.6.7 dtd 1/25/07 in folder but replaced w/ 1.6.7 dtd 1/31/07 and is running fine as I type.:D

[Boulder]

@Boulder and Sn8kbordin

There is a new beta posted on the website that may address these issues. You might try it and see how it goes.

RegardsThanks, I'll give it a go when I get home.

[Boulder]

The beta seems to have fixed the problem for me :)

[kurt]

Version 1.6.8.0 (7 February 2007)

* Returned to a simpler way to check whether the disc is a DVD: look for the VIDEO_TS folder!
* Once more attempted to solve the VISTA PSL import problem. There is now a 1s delay to allow the open dialog to open.
* Fixed the problem that sometimes caused the label of the DVD to not be read and be reported as "NO_LABEL".
* In the Jump To Menu function, if the target menu was in the title domain, but not a title itself, things could go bad. This is now fixed.
* Fixed a problem that could allow the parsing to occur even though the disc wasn't ready!
* Fixed problem that could occur when updating (the RipIt4Me app was sometimes locked so you couldn't overwrite it).
* The dialog title in Step 1 now reflects whether we're in wizard or 1-click mode. No more confusion!
* In the jump to menu function, if sprm(2) (subpictures) is set to a value that can't be obtained with a SetSTN command, sprm(2) is set to 62 ("not set").
* There are a couple more strings to translate.

http://www.ripit4me.org/download.html

[cwl7454]

kurt

Unable to remove/delete v1.6.7.. 964KB 9/22/06. When attempting to delete it says access is denied indicating that disc is full or write protected.

[kurt]

strange, I just overwrote it and there were no problems :confused:
try again after restarting...

[BigDid]

kurt

Unable to remove/delete v1.6.7.. 964KB 9/22/06. When attempting to delete it says access is denied indicating that disc is full or write protected.
Hi,

You may want to try the installer http://www.ripit4me.org/RipIt4Me%20Installer.exe
recommended in case of installing issues.

@Kurt, happy new year :)

Did

[deuce2]

Apparently Ver. 1.6.9.0 is out for the Windows 98 folks. Are there still people using that OS:(

"Version 1.6.9.0 (8 February 2007)

A quick bug fix for Win'98 people ("Not a DVD" problem again). Apologies."

[kurt]

Hi,

You may want to try the installer http://www.ripit4me.org/RipIt4Me%20Installer.exe
recommended in case of installing issues.

@Kurt, happy new year :)

Did
good idea! happy new year you too :)

[cwl7454]

Was still unable to ununstall v1.6.7:
Apparantly what I did was download v1.6.9 and saved it seperatly, rather than using the open gui to do the download and update.

Had to use killbox to delete the older versions as pgcedit was still linked to them.
In a way it worked out as I went in and deleted all the programs associated w/ RI4M; RI4M, FixVTS, PgcEdit, Voblanker and reinstalled all with the latest versions of all.
Both pgcedit and voblanker have alot newer versions, something you tend not to think about.

While I'm here does anybody have any feedback on "Copy to DVD" which is supposed to be able to do the HDDVD?

[Harddrive]

I can't install 1.6.9 zip file. When I go to extract the exe file it says it is password protected and askes for the password.

Anyone have this problem or know the password? I downloaded right from ripit4me.org.

Thanks,

HDD

[blutach]

Use the installer - see links above.

Are you on a limited Windows account, which might be requiring a password?

Regards

[setarip_old]

@Harddrive

Hi!When I go to extract the exe file it says it is password protected and askes for the password.You likely have to sign on to your system as "Administrator" or with "Adminstrator's rights"...

[jimaker]

I'm also getting the "password protected" message. There must be multiple versions of the downloaded file or the other responses wouldn't make sense.

[setarip_old]

@jimaker

Hi!

Did you read the two postings immediately preceding yours in this thread?

[jimaker]

Indeed! Those were the two that prompted my response.

[setarip_old]

@jimaker

Your download source should be:

www.ripit4me.org

[cwl7454]

What unzipping program & Ver. are you using?

[setarip_old]

Plain ol' WinZip - any version...

[Harddrive]

I've tried both Winzip and the Windows XP built-in extractor. I'm getting the file from Ripit4me.org. I am the only user of my PC and have admin rights. For whatever reason, the zip file always asks for a password. At least I'm not the only one who has this problem :p

Luckily, I don't need the Win 98 features included in this update.

Regards,

HDD

[blutach]

Why not use the installer? By the way, there's a recent post (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?postid=508290#post508290) on the RipIt4Me forum that suggests a software conflict with Zone Alarm. Dunno if this is related.

Regards

[Gary D]

Version 1.7.0.0 (28 February 2007)

* First version that integrates our adaptation of FixVTS. There is no need to have FixVTS installed anymore. Several options concerning FixVTS have been renamed/removed, including the FixVTS log, which is now included (and much simplified) into the RipIt4Me log.
* When a cell is removed, the next cell's STC discontinuity flag is now set. This might help with playability problems with certain players when tiny cells are removed.
* In Step 1, if your preferences are not to empty the target directory at the start, you're no longer asked to confirm whether you want to delete all the files.
* If the DVD is episodic with episodes in different VTSs and the user selects "movie only" or "movie+menus", Step 1 offers to switch back to "Full DVD" when the user presses OK.
* Attempted to make the copying of the original IFOs faster. In case of failure, we re-try 10 times.
* Fixed a potential crash during the cell cleanup when the IFOs are a bit messed up (cell command declared, but non-existent).
* Fixed a small problem in the analysis code that could cause errors in the Stargate DVD.
* If for some reason the PSL file was not imported, the user is only notified if dummy sectors are found, since if none are found it really does not matter.
* The first time 1.7.0.0 is run, the user is prompted to increase maxvobdur to 300 (if it is not already so). This is a one-time offer. Please accept it.
* The lock on the RipIt4Me.log and DebugLog.txt files are now released at the end of the Wizard and 1-click modes so you can open/move them if you wish.
* The part of the debug log that concerned Step1 (ripping the IFOs) was no longer present in the final debug log. This is now fixed.
* Fixed (once more) a problem with moving the original IFOs in linux.
* Other minor IO confirmation messages added.

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[HeadBangeR77]

Much appreciated!

:thanks:

[setarip_old]

As always, the most recent update looks wonderful!

However, I have always presumed that the main reason the RipIt4Me "package" was "untouchable" (by those who wish to prevent us from making backup copies of our purchased DVDs) was because the main program primarily provided links to the three programs that actually did the modifying of the DVD files.

Hopefully, the authors have determined that this merging of FixVTS into the body of the main RipIt4Me program will do nothing to negate that (perceived) reasoning...

[blutach]

@setarip_old

Remember by the time the "FixVTS" stage comes around the movie is decrypted and all that remains is fixing some pointers and removing a whole lotta unreferenced material.

Regards

[linx05]

If they included FixVTS in RipIt4Me wouldn't that mean you would have to open up the source code?

[setarip_old]

I have simply stated my sincere concern.

(I certainly have no intention of having a debate with a moderator about the worthiness of my concern - One reason being that it's never an "even playing field" ;>})

As I said, hopefully, the authors have determined that this merging of FixVTS into the body of the main RipIt4Me program will do nothing to negate that (perceived) reasoning.

If your reasoning about the specific functions of FixVTS is the same that the authors have applied and RipIt4Me continues undeterred, then I'm a happy camper...

[Boulder]

If they included FixVTS in RipIt4Me wouldn't that mean you would have to open up the source code?
If they did their own implementation, no.

[linx05]

What do you mean by that Boulder? From what I understand they've taken the source code of FixVTS and used it in RipIt4Me. Are you saying that if they implemented it but changed or didn't add all of it they wouldn't have to give the source?

[jeanl]

Well, the change log says nothing about incorporating the code itself... Of course, they could easily do that without asking anyone, as some have done in the past!
We'll see if ripit4me starts crashing where fixvts does! :D
Jeanl

[spacelord]

Much appreciated!

:thanks:

Dito from Stockholm !

:thanks:

[Wendya409]

Version 1.7.0.0 (28 February 2007)
* The first time 1.7.0.0 is run, the user is prompted to increase maxvobdur to 300 (if it is not already so). This is a one-time offer. Please accept it.


I ran the new version tonight and it didn't prompt me to do this. Is it important?

[blutach]

It means you are already at or above 300 (check your preferences).

Regards

[zaphod_beeblebrox]

Hi everyone.
Upgraded to 1.7.0.0 .. don't believe it's a release problem .. maybe a system problem?. upgraded to this version now get the error "Not a DVD" .. went back to previous version still same message .. anyone know what causes this, it's the first time I have used the program since doing a fresh install of XP sp2 so possibly a system thing .. decryptor can see the dvd and will attempt to rip it but it has arccos.. anybody know ?
John

[setarip_old]

Try starting RipIt4me (and selecting either "Wizard" or "1Click") BEFORE loading the DVD...

[deuce2]

New update is out.:)

[JarrettH]

Small goof...it thinks the exe for dvd decrypter is out of date and attempts to download a setup for 3 5 4 0. :)

[deuce2]

Small goof...it thinks the exe for dvd decrypter is out of date and attempts to download a setup for 3 5 4 0. :)
It worked fine for me.

[blutach]

If you get that Jarrett, just uncheck "Check DVD Decrypter at startup" in the preferences.

Regards

[Geekman]

Just encountered an odd error with RI4M 1.7.1.0 while ripping the original version of "The Haunting" (not the remake w/ Liam Neeson), "The rip seems to have been aborted, RipIt4Me cannot continue."

However, all files appear to have been ripped successfully to the HD. I ran FixVTS manually afterwards due to RI4M abort.

The DVD does not have a VIDEO_TS.VOB file, but that is probably not significant. I tried the ripped output on MPC w/o problems.

Below is the content of the log file (not the debug log):
I 20:41:12: RipIt4Me Version 1.7.1.0
I 20:41:12: Starting 1-click Ripping Procedure at 20:40:46
I 20:41:12: Running Windows XP Service Pack 2
I 20:41:12: DVD Decrypter version: 3.5.4.0
I 20:41:12: DVD Shrink version 3.2.0.15
I 20:41:12: _________________________
I 20:41:12: SPTI layer available
I 20:41:12: _________________________
I 20:41:12: Ripping mode: Full Rip
I 20:41:12: Main title(s):
I 20:41:12: Title 1 (VTS 1 PGCs 1) -- 1:51:47s -- 16:9
I 20:41:12: Remove Protected Cells = On
I 20:41:12: Remove Tiny Cells = On
I 20:41:12: Remove Useless Menu Cells = On
I 20:41:12: Bypass Annoying PGCs = Off
I 20:41:12: Remove Last VTS = On
I 20:41:12: Blank Bogus VTS = On
I 20:41:12: Cleanup VOBs on Full DVD = On
I 20:41:12: Rip JACKET_P folder = On
I 20:41:12: Copy IFO mode = 0
I 20:41:12: DVD Decrypter IFO parsing mode = 1
I 20:41:12: VOB Scan: Scan cells lasting less than: 300
I 20:41:12: BOV VOBU Stride = 30
I 20:41:12:
I 20:41:12: Copying original IFOs into target directory
I 20:41:12: DVD Volume Label: THE_HAUNTING
I 20:41:12: Loading IFOs
I 20:41:12: Region code: 1 2 3 4
I 20:41:12: Video Format: NTSC
I 20:41:12: Done opening IFOs
I 20:41:12: Retrieving sectors from DVD drive
I 20:41:12: CRC32 value = 0x7A34C3C5
I 20:41:12: Creating Protected Sector List (PSL) file
I 20:41:12: Done creating PSL file
I 20:41:12: Found no unreferenced titleset.
I 20:41:12: Waiting for Decrypter to be ready
I 20:41:15: Done importing the PSL file, now starting ripping...
I 20:52:04: Done ripping ...
I 20:52:04: Decrypter ripping time: 00:10:52
I 20:52:04: _________________________
I 20:52:05: The rip seems to have been aborted, RipIt4Me cannot continue
I 20:52:21: Done at 20:52:21
I 20:52:21: Elapsed time: 00:11:35

[Toasty]

For ripping you can also try DVDFab decrypter. It also stays up-to-date.

[blutach]

We've seen a few of these lately. FAQ 11 (http://www.ripit4me.org/faq.html#faq11) helps in this sitch.

Regards

[Geekman]

@Toasty,
Thanks for the prompt response. I've used DVDFabDecrypter in the past and prefer RI4M. I saw that RI4M recently added a feature to "jump to" DVDDecrypter directly if the DVD does not have ArCCos or other protections. I was wondering if a bug may have been introduced.

@blutach,
I appreciate the info. Nice to know how to continue when DVDDecrypter is somehow thought to have aborted (don't know the handshaking protocol between DVDDecrypter & RI4M). I was able to successfully run VobBlanker on the resultant files and played on MPC.

Please let me know if I can provide additional information to help track down the issue. RI4M rocks!!!

Thanks to all again.

[~bT~]

where's the ri4m site gone?

[kurt]

April Fool's joke or is it really gone? more on this topic at Digital Digest Forum (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=521138#post521138)...

[nikki]

I checked dd but do not understand the link and how update works took years to load.

[setarip_old]

If it indeed proves to be gone, I'd speculate that it was the result of Macrovision "putting the squeeze on" regarding the "RipIt4Me" site providing a link for downloading DVD Decrypter (as well as a way to automatically install DVD Decrypter)...

[Mike89]

If it indeed proves to be gone, I'd speculate that it was the result of Macrovision "putting the squeeze on" regarding the "RipIt4Me" site providing a link for downloading DVD Decrypter (as well as a way to automatically install DVD Decrypter)...

That's what I think too. I think once they involved DVDD in their program, they were kind of in no mans land. A lot of this copy protection BS is in no mans land, never know which way it's going to be interpreted or which direction it's going to go.

[dialysis1]

Why do we have to wait until Monday for more information?
Just doesn't smell right.

[Mike89]

Well Monday is almost over and still no info. Somebody's got to know something about this. Why do the mouth's suddenly have zippers on them? I mean cmon, there are leakers in the Government all over the place, there's got to be at least one that will give out some info.

[setarip_old]

@Mike89

Do you understand the expression "spitting in the wind"?

Whatever's going on won't be made public until it's been resolved...

[blutach]

seatrip_old is right.

Mike89, we are not into gossip or speculation any more than the other forums at which you have been demanding answers (to which you are not entitled).

Please refrain from raising this topic again or risk a strike. I can't stress this strongly enough.

Regards

[HeadBangeR77]

Yes, I wish setarip_old wasn't right, but he is unfortunately. I haven't visited the forums for a couple of days and was wondering what had happened to the auto-update function... Now that I know I've got to wait patiently ;)

Hope everything is cleared within the next days.

cheers,
HDBR77

[Johnny381]

The pain............ohhh.. the pain...............!

[somebodeez]

I guess all we can do is wait and see. :(

[Mike89]

I'm demanding nothing Blu. I see the demand on the other end. Demanding people keep their mouth shut. Forums don't own people's opinions. I'm just speaking out about people wanting to talk and are not being allowed to. Something is really wrong with this picture. Sounds like a lot of butt covering is going on somewhere.

You were successful in stopping conversation about RipIt4Me at DD and now you're here doing the same thing. How many other forums do you think you can do this in?

[linx05]

I'm demanding nothing Blu. I see the demand on the other end. Demanding people keep their mouth shut. Forums don't own people's opinions. I'm just speaking out about people wanting to talk and are not being allowed to. Something is really wrong with this picture. Sounds like a lot of butt covering is going on somewhere.

You were successful in stopping conversation about RipIt4Me at DD and now you're here doing the same thing. How many other forums do you think you can do this in?
You can always go to CDFreaks (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=214535) if you want. I think it is good to let it out.

My only question is how long this version will last against whatever Sony puts out next. RipIt4Me has a pretty good track record when it comes to not being needed to be updated for a new copy-protection.

We can only wait :).

[happycase]

I'm demanding nothing Blu. I see the demand on the other end. Demanding people keep their mouth shut. Forums don't own people's opinions. I'm just speaking out about people wanting to talk and are not being allowed to. Something is really wrong with this picture. Sounds like a lot of butt covering is going on somewhere.

You were successful in stopping conversation about RipIt4Me at DD and now you're here doing the same thing. How many other forums do you think you can do this in?

Pleeeeease stop the speculation before you ruin things here! Follow the rules, not the Constitution.

[blutach]

Exactly - strike issued. Mike89, you were warned. Be grateful it's only a rule 16 strike and not one for rule 4.

Regards

[shon3i]

Ok, can somebody upload me lastest version?

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Ok, can somebody upload me lastest version?

http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_6_81_21603.html

Next time use Google :devil:

[BigDid]

Ok, can somebody upload me lastest version?
Hi Shon,

At this time, still available at Majorgeeks: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download5408.html
and Softpedia: http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/RipItMe-Download-44816.html

Did

[Mike89]

Pleeeeease stop the speculation before you ruin things here!

You want to explain that one to me cause I don't understand it. Ruining what exactly? Is what I said so offensive to someone that I get a warning for it? No matter how many times I read it, I don't understand it warranting a warning and then I'm not even supposed to ask for clarification.

I get comments like, "you are demanding this and demanding that" when I am demanding nothing (and challenge anyone to find where I did). I also get, "of which you are not entitled". What exactly does that mean anyway or how does one interpret statements like that? So I ask for an explanation and either get a strike or get labled a trouble maker (which I am not).

This whole deal concerning RitIt4Me has been blown way out of proportion and could have been handled easily by an upfront approach instead of trying to pretend it never existed and covering it up (which puts a cloud over the whole thing and brings up even more questions and speculation).

Now dunno if what I just said (I'm just speaking my mind, that's all) is going to result in me getting another warning. I don't really know cause I still don't understand why I got the first one.

[Guest]

Now dunno if what I just said (I'm just speaking my mind, that's all) is going to result in me getting another warning. Yes, it is. This rant is off-topic, so you get a rule 3 strike.

Do not continue to discuss this or complain about your strikes in this thread. Use the available paths for that: PM a moderator and then if you are not satisfied PM Doom9.

[sockeye]

Someone just posted this on another forum. Not sure of the legitimacy, but seems encouraging. :)
http://www.ripit4me.com/

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Someone just posted this on another forum. Not sure of the legitimacy, but seems encouraging. :)
http://www.ripit4me.com/

Or the domain has a new owner now, who knows ??? :p

[rack04]

Someone just posted this on another forum. Not sure of the legitimacy, but seems encouraging. :)
http://www.ripit4me.com/

That website has been available for months now. You won't believe how many times I typed .com instead of .org. :)

[SamuriHL]

Is no one capable of basic whois these days?! :D ripit4me.com has been around since before ripit4me.org...LONG before. So, I don't believe they are related at all IMO.

[sockeye]

Is no one capable of basic whois these days?! :D ripit4me.com has been around since before ripit4me.org...LONG before. So, I don't believe they are related at all IMO.
I see what you mean Samuri, it has been there a very long time. :thanks:

[SamuriHL]

I see what you mean Samuri, it has been there a very long time. :thanks:

Not a problem. I was curious when people started posting about the .com site so I went and looked it up. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with ripit4me that we know and love. Unfortunately, I think that is really gone. :(

[shon3i]

Thanks Guys ;)

[pastordl]

Does any one know what happened to the ripit4me web site? I have tried all day and can not get connected. This is a great free program. Works great and does the job. Hope it hasn't gone under,

pastordl

[setarip_old]

Hi!Does any one know what happened to the ripit4me web site?Just read this thread to which you've posted your question ;>}

[Fator.br]

Please - http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Fator/Orkut.jpg

We go to reactivate the Ripit4me. Somebody knows, knows or has the Orkut? www.orkut.com - It is of the Google group and it has some communities, we can make of the Ripit4me and thus to work. The Ripit4me cannot stop. I wait that have not said high more, we depend on vocês. The return is a generation waiting. They do not finish with the dreams of all a generation. It needs an email of the GMAIL and an Invitation we will enter and there we will be a friend of the other.

They look for to know www.orkut.com and we go to raise the Ripit4me.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Fator/Orkut.jpg :thanks:

[linx05]

Heh are you the same person who tried to make that DVD Decrypter community and failed?

Looks like he is posting it in different places (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1754876&postcount=282).

[blutach]

@Fator.br

Apart from calling unnecessary attention to yourself, cross posting this message (as well as PM'ing me with it) is very annoying.

Please read rule 8.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

@Fator.br

Apart from calling unnecessary attention to yourself, cross posting this message (as well as PM'ing me with it) is very annoying.

Please read rule 8.

Regards

Yea, a bunch of us got a PM about it...

[blutach]

His x-posts have been deleted.

Sorry to hear you have been annoyed, too SamuriHL.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

It wasn't that big of a deal. I replied to him and said that creating a community for R4M is basically pointless as there will be no further development on it as far as I know and that we can already discuss it here and on a few other forums anyway. So, really, what's the point? Anyway, not a problem.

[setarip_old]

we can already discuss it here and on a few other forums anyway.I find it quite remarkable that, after two full weeks, not a bit of information regarding the disappearance of "RipIt4Me" has been made public...

[SamuriHL]

I find it quite remarkable that, after two full weeks, not a bit of information regarding the disappearance of "RipIt4Me" has been made public...

This (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1755485&postcount=291) was just posted over on CDF(note to mods, if I'm breaking any rules by posting a link to another forum I apologize ahead of time), but, as I replied to it, I'm finding it a little hard to swallow exactly. First, the logic doesn't make ANY sense at all. And second they mention copyguard...isn't that a protection they used on VCR's? :) Anyway, I'm not buying that story until we get some kind of corroboration. It just doesn't fully seem to add up. Obviously SOMETHING bad happened, but, I'm not going to necessarily believe the first post about what supposedly happened without some kind of proof.

[setarip_old]

I wouldn't lend too much credence to that post either. It's from a new poster (2 posts, including that one) who is quoting someone else.

As far as the speculation that Macrovision is again the "culprit", this is a notion that I (and several others at other forums) raised at the beginning of the month.

As to the reason being that PSL-generating code was the reason for the shutdown, I doubt that it would have taken this long since the program's inception for the "culprit" to take action. I'd sooner believe that "the straw that broke the camel's back" is what I speculated about in the following post:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=962476&postcount=464

(BTW, I'm fairly sure the reference to "copyguard protection" is just another way of saying "copy protection")

[SamuriHL]

While I'm still not 100% convinced of that story, I've come to trust it a little more than my first skepticism of it. I still have no proof that the story is in fact true, but, certain things were brought to my attention in a PM that lead me to believe it could be more than just a newbie making up a story. I remain skeptical until I see some kind of corroboration and proof, but, I'm less skeptical than I first was. Which, could really suck for those involved.

[DaChew]

I still can't understand the big mystery here,

1. what companies did the program hurt the most? duh!
2. what was the best way to stop the program?

about as obvious as the nose on your face

[techreactor]

Yeah! I agree, the answer lies in the above two questions.

Also its a learning for all the future programmers/coders of similar utilities to develop such important and popular tools under GNU license and atleast release the source of prior version/s of such tools to the public.

That is the ONLY way to make them immortal.

[linx05]

After DVD Decrypter went down (RIP) I was actually amazed nobody had picked up SmartRipper. I mean, the source is out there so they wouldn't have to start from scratch.

[dialysis1]

There were times when problems arose with certain movies. RipIt4Me came out with a fix first or didn't need a fix at all. This had potential customers turning to RipIt4Me. That had to upset the other guys.

[bourtzovlakas]

That is the ONLY way to make them immortal.

...and also make them easily beatable...

[DaChew]

...and also make them easily beatable...

no need to reverse engineer the software if you have the code

I agree open source is not the way to go

[LoloMc]

And I disagree...

Security using obscurity is not the correct way
Linux/Apache... They are open sourced and they are not less secure than ******* (I will not feed the troll ;))

It is perhaps easily beatable but, it is immortal. And after all the failure had been found, what's next ?

++

[bourtzovlakas]

Well....
DVD Decrypter was never completelly beaten(with the aid of psl plugin and RipIt4Me), and it 's been nearly 3 years from the ending of its development....
Primarily because it was well writen and flexible, but also because its source was never published...

IMO, being open source would have made it obsolete in a couple of months...

P.S. Maybe Sony and Macrovision should go open source too...
That would be a fair situation...

[SamuriHL]

IMO, being open source would have made it obsolete in a couple of months...

How? I just don't understand that logic. How would being open source change the functionality that it gave us? They could somehow defeat the PSL code by knowing how it worked? I don't see how that makes a lot of sense. Maybe I'm missing something.

[bourtzovlakas]

Since it would be no longer developed, any discovered weak point would make it easy for a protection developer to make it permanently useless, with an update in the protection scheme...

Doesn 't that make sense?

[SamuriHL]

Since it would be no longer developed, any discovered weak point would make it easy for a protection developer to make it permanently useless, with an update in the protection scheme...

Doesn 't that make sense?

But if it was open source, then the source could be modified to fix any potential flaws that may or may not be found. I think what you're suggesting is that if the source code were available to the studios and no one could modify it then it would have been rendered useless long before now. But that's also HIGHLY incorrect. Macrovision DID have the source code to it. A lot of good it did them. If it were truly open source where the public had access to it, as well as the studios, then any "flaws" found in it could have been remedied by the community at large. So, no, it doesn't make sense to me.

[bourtzovlakas]

But that's also HIGHLY incorrect. Macrovision DID have the source code to it.

How do you know that?
AFAIK nothing like this was ever anounced and only one person should know for sure...

If it were truly open source where the public had access to it, as well as the studios, then any "flaws" found in it could have been remedied by the community at large.

Yes but the studios would always have the advantage...
...and not everything is fixable....

[SamuriHL]

How do you know that?
AFAIK nothing like this was ever anounced and only one person should know for sure...

You REALLY believe they just simply told LUK "Hey, discontinue developing it and you're all good." ??? I'd be VERY surprised if part of the deal he got was not to turn over the source code. But at that point, the magic that was DVDD was already out in the wild. There was nothing they could do about it. No, that information was never made public as I'm sure LUK got a gag order basically saying he couldn't discuss the details, but, come on...they raid your house they're going to take your machine. And on that machine is going to be the source code of your project. So yea, I'm pretty sure...do I know for a fact? No, I don't, but, I'd be very surprised if they didn't have access to the source.

[bourtzovlakas]

they raid your house they're going to take your machine.

Another assumption....

[SamuriHL]

Yes but the studios would always have the advantage...
...and not everything is fixable....

And not everything they do is playable, either. The more they screw up the DVD structure, the more incompatible their discs become with mainstream players. Just ask the guy who called Sony support because his brand new Sony DVD player won't play any of the latest Sony discs. Yet, using R4M, you could clean those discs of any protection and play them back just fine. So, there's only so much they can do before they make completely incompatible discs. And Slysoft doesn't believe there's anything they can do that's not fixable. So far, they've been right.

[SamuriHL]

Another assumption....

It IS an assumption, as I said. But it's a pretty safe one if you ask me.

[bourtzovlakas]

And Slysoft doesn't believe there's anything they can do that's not fixable. So far, they've been right.

Slysoft also said "any dvd on-the-fly", but many times DVD Shrink disagrees....

[SamuriHL]

Slysoft also said "any dvd on-the-fly", but many times DVD Shrink disagrees....

I'll give you that one. The idiots at Sony decided to embed their crap deeply inside the VOBs making on the fly structure fixing impossible, but, this, too can be gotten around by simply ripping the title with CloneDVD or VobBlanker in combination with AnyDVD. The point is, I don't think that the studios would gain anything if the decryption program was open source.

And if it was open source, anyone could pick it up and modify it. Therefore if the situation that appears to have happened to DVDD and R4M happened again to an open source product, then it wouldn't matter as much as the product's source code could be picked up by someone else and development could continue. Even Doom9 has said this is a good idea on the main page. :)

[bourtzovlakas]

I don 't think it is that easy for someone to pick-up the code and fully maintain a program in a couple of days....

Doom9 said that the code should be released if necessery...
...not if the development is still active...

[SamuriHL]

Isn't it necessary in this case? What they were saying is that if DVDD or R4M were open source and available they wouldn't be so easily stopped. And I agree with that. I'm not suggesting anyone could just pick up the source and have a new version in a day, but, as my boss tells me all the time "it's just code". And if you have the source it's much easier to modify than coming up with it from scratch.

[bourtzovlakas]

Necessery in general...
If RipIt4Me 's development is over there is nothing that can be done any more...
Doom9 's proposal was for future projects...
...and only if these projects were ever in some kind of trouble...
Only then the source should be published...

[blutach]

The idiots at Sony decided to embed their crap deeply inside the VOBs making on the fly structure fixing impossible, but, this, too can be gotten around by simply ripping the title with CloneDVD or VobBlanker in combination with AnyDVD.I can't speak for jsoto, but I can imagine that he never envisaged his tool being used in conjunction with an OTF decryption device.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

I can't speak for jsoto, but I can imagine that he never envisaged his tool being used in conjunction with an OTF decryption device.

Regards

(Excuse the off topic reply) I'm sure he didn't, but, it works so I'm promoting it to DVD Shrink users who want a solution for the Sony/AnyDVD problem until Slysoft comes out with their new ripper. Right now their options are limited to buying CloneDVD as a ripper or not using AnyDVD(which they paid for and would probalby want to use). Since VobBlanker is freeware and works extremely well not only as a ripper for AnyDVD but also combined with the blanking features(I think what it was intended for, eh? ;)) to free up some space for compression, I feel it's a good compromise for now. And it keeps DVD Shrink users in the game. :)

P.S. For the record I did not come up with the idea of using VobBlanker as a ripper...I'm simply letting people know that it works.

[blutach]

Yes, I know that. But I wonder how jsoto feels about that, that's all.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

Yes, I know that. But I wonder how jsoto feels about that, that's all.

Regards

Oh I see what you're saying. Yea, that's a very good point. :/

[DaChew]

Why is it an assumption that macrovision would not have the source code for DVDD? Anymore than assuming that that would prevent someone else coming along and evolving the "cat and mouse game" to it's next level.

The bar is set so high now that tactics have changed,
dvd structure has been raped and pillaged to it's limit.

[setarip_old]

Sounds like you folks have forgotten that VOBBlanker, in conjunction with DVD Decrypter, for quite some time, provided the perfect ripping scenario for all DVDs (most were Disney releases) containing the first iteration of "RipGuard" copy protection...

[techreactor]

Does anyone think that we are better off now without the tools and without the sources and waiting for the next new set of tools ????

Give it a thought!!!!

[setarip_old]

without the toolsThe only tool you are presently lacking is the (if needed) NEXT iteration of "RipIt4Me".

Still available:

1) All previously posted versions of RipIt4Me (Freeware) - I continue to use v.1.6.4 with total success, including new releases through this past Tuesday, April 10th

2) DVD95CopyPro (Commercial)

3) AnyDVD (Commercial)

4) DVDFab Decrypter (Freeware)

5) DVDFab Platinum/Gold, etc. (Commercial)

6) Others that just don't come to mind at the moment

[PatchWorKs]

Well, it's not the 1st case, as already sayd DVDdecrypter has been shooted down too.

The problem is: are decrypter-tools author pirates or not ?

I mean: why they choose closed source if already knows the risks ?

Two cases:
- they wanna make money;
- they uses "secrets" programming techniques;

in both cases the DMCA' shoot down is deserved.

Some links to GPL software that can access to DVD directly (no ripping required):

MediaCoder (http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/)
FairUse Wizard (http://www.fairusewizard.com/)

[techreactor]

The only tool you are presently lacking is the (if needed) NEXT iteration of "RipIt4Me".

Still available:

1) All previously posted versions of RipIt4Me (Freeware) - I continue to use v.1.6.4 with total success, including new releases through this past Tuesday, April 10th

2) DVD95CopyPro (Commercial)

3) AnyDVD (Commercial)

4) DVDFab Decrypter (Freeware)

5) DVDFab Platinum/Gold, etc. (Commercial)

6) Others that just don't come to mind at the moment

That raises another question, why only target Ripit4me and not these tools which perform the same function.

- Was the usage of DVDD (now owned by macrovision) at the backend the ONLY cause of its downfall !!!!

Seems highly likely, otherwise there would not be a single ripper left out, whether commercial or free by them.

[SamuriHL]

The only tool you are presently lacking is the (if needed) NEXT iteration of "RipIt4Me".

Still available:

1) All previously posted versions of RipIt4Me (Freeware) - I continue to use v.1.6.4 with total success, including new releases through this past Tuesday, April 10th

2) DVD95CopyPro (Commercial)

3) AnyDVD (Commercial)

4) DVDFab Decrypter (Freeware)

5) DVDFab Platinum/Gold, etc. (Commercial)

6) Others that just don't come to mind at the moment

Yes, seta's got it right. My only concern is for the future, not now. R4M may have ceased development, but, again like DVDD, that doesn't mean it's obsolete and should be relegated to the dustbin. This is the same thing people say about DVD Shrink, too. "Oh, no one's developing it anymore so it MUST be useless." Um, NO. There's only a problem IF and WHEN a new protection comes out that the current version of R4M can't handle. And even then it's only a problem if a new version of FixVTS can't clean it correctly. We are a LONG ways away from that point. No need to panic yet. The discussions we were having weren't meant to say that R4M is useless...it's just a "ok, where do we go from here" what/if scenario. :)

[SamuriHL]

That raises another question, why only target Ripit4me and not these tools which perform the same function.

- Was the usage of DVDD (now owned by macrovision) at the backend the ONLY cause of its downfall !!!!

Seems highly likely, otherwise there would not be a single ripper left out, whether commercial or free by them.

The others on that list are difficult to get to. Slysoft is based in a country with no laws against AnyDVD's existence. DVD Fab Decrypter is based in China where some parts of the country are difficult to get to from a legal stand point. They're probably trying, they just haven't been successful at targeting the others yet.

[SamuriHL]

Sounds like you folks have forgotten that VOBBlanker, in conjunction with DVD Decrypter, for quite some time, provided the perfect ripping scenario for all DVDs (most were Disney releases) containing the first iteration of "RipGuard" copy protection...

Was VobBlanker out before FixVTS? I'm sorry, my memory about the history of these two products is not so good. Just curious if VobBlanker was around and used for this purpose before FixVTS came along.

[bourtzovlakas]

Was VobBlanker out before FixVTS? I'm sorry, my memory about the history of these two products is not so good. Just curious if VobBlanker was around and used for this purpose before FixVTS came along.

Yes it was...

[blutach]

Sounds like you folks have forgotten that VOBBlanker, in conjunction with DVD Decrypter, for quite some time, provided the perfect ripping scenario for all DVDs (most were Disney releases) containing the first iteration of "RipGuard" copy protection...
True, but this is not how its author sees it.



Scope

VobBlanker is a tool able to blank, replace, cut and strip titles, more specifically, program chains in titles and menu domains. It is also able to work in cell based mode, doing different actions (blanking, replacing, reducing to still, split) in a cell by cell mode.
I don't see anything there about defeating copy protection.

As setarip says, "in conjunction with DVD Decrypter ...". It was DVD Decrypter that did the ripping. VobBlanker simply cleaned up afterwards. Without the rip, it couldn't function.

Anyone who thinks VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) is a ripping solution (or even part of one) is way off beam, IMO. On that basis, so is Ner0 Rec0de, DVD Rebuilder (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/) and indeed, Micro$oft Windoze Explorer (all with AnyDVD).

Ludicrous.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

Anyone who thinks VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) is a ripping solution (or even part of one) is way off beam, IMO. On that basis, so is Ner0 Rec0de, DVD Rebuilder (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/) and indeed, Micro$oft Windoze Explorer (all with AnyDVD).

Ludicrous.

Regards

Isn't that just semantics, however? After all, what does AnyDVD do on its own? It simply removes the protection on the fly. You still have to use SOMETHING to move the files from the DVD to the hard drive. So what is your definition of a "ripper" in this case? Is AnyDVD doing the "ripping"? Or is the program that's used to copy the files from the DVD to the hard drive doing the ripping? In the case of DVDD, it did both the protection removal and copying to the hard drive. In the case of AnyDVD, it only does the protection removal. So again, I say it's a matter of semantics.

[soulstace]

After all, what does AnyDVD do on its own? It simply removes the protection on the fly. You still have to use SOMETHING to move the files from the DVD to the hard drive.

AnyDVD can rip a DVD or HD-DVD to hard disk as well. Decryption is just the tool's main focus.

[SamuriHL]

AnyDVD can rip a DVD or HD-DVD to hard disk as well. Decryption is just the tool's main focus.

Right, and that function was added AFTER the fact because so many people contacted support about how to use AnyDVD to rip and the fact that Sony started introducing structural protection in the vobs. AnyDVD wasn't designed to remove that kind of protection, so their "kludge" was to add the AnyDVD ripper function that uses an older version of FixVTS to clean up the DVD structure. This was added so that Shrink users would still be able to use AnyDVD on the (at the time it was added) new protections. However, FixVTS changed its licensing so it was no longer possible for a commercial product like AnyDVD to include the source code. Therefore they weren't able to update that functionality. Nonetheless, originally AnyDVD was never designed as a ripper...it was designed as an on the fly solution to remove copy protection. At least, that's how Slysoft themselves talk about AnyDVD. You'll also note that they recommend that Shrink users purchase CloneDVD to use as a ripper(they call it the perfect ripping solution to use with AnyDVD). However, a lot of Shrink users were getting pissed at the idea of spending money on what they see as an inferior transcoding engine just to use it as a ripper for Shrink. That's when MBK on cdfreaks discovered that VobBlanker worked extremely well with AnyDVD to rip the DVD to the hard drive in such a way that Shrink owners could use it. So, I still say this whole discussion about AnyDVD and VobBlanker being a ripper is a matter of semantics and highly irrelevant...it simply works and gives Shrink users a way to work with the product they paid for without having to buy something else. Now, Slysoft is in the midst of writing their own ripper solution to use with AnyDVD, but, it will be some time before it's released. In the meantime, Shrink users have a temporary solution to the problem. Then again, they could always just use R4M for now, too, but, a lot of them paid for AnyDVD and expect to be able to use it.

[blutach]

You can't get past the fact that without AnyDVD, VobBlanker's use in the ripping process is nil. Just load a DVD in VobBlanker without having AnyDVD running and see how it goes.

As I said before, since AnyDVD is doing the decrypting and removing structural protection, you may as well use Windows Explorer. Does that make Windows Explorer a ripping tool? No. That would be ridiculous to assert that. AnyDVD is the ripping tool.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

You can't get past the fact that without AnyDVD, VobBlanker's use in the ripping process is nil. Just load a DVD in VobBlanker without having AnyDVD running and see how it goes.

As I said before, since AnyDVD is doing the decrypting and removing structural protection, you may as well use Windows Explorer. Does that make Windows Explorer a ripping tool? No. That would be ridiculous to assert that. AnyDVD is the ripping tool.

Regards

Try using explorer on a Sony title with AnyDVD and then opening it with Shrink. You won't get very far. There are only two solutions that allow you to do that...one is to rip in DL mode with CloneDVD and the other is to use VobBlanker. Otherwise the protection in the VOBs is NOT cleaned up and DVD Shrink will not be able to open the result. So I really don't care what you call it, the simple fact is there are currently only two solutions for DVD Shrink users who want to use AnyDVD on the latest Sony protections...one will cost them money and the other won't.

[outsiders71]

Why don't these authors just include a tidbit when you startup the program that prevents them from being at fault for mis-use?

[SamuriHL]

That's moving the goal posts, somewhat.


If you say so.


And you don't seem to be getting it - Vobblanker isn't "ripping" the DVD contents, then, it's cleaning up certain aspects to the rip

Ok, so explain to me how I make a backup with AnyDVD alone? What is it that you don't understand about this? I'm using VobBlanker to copy the files from the DVD to the hard drive. Yes, it requires AnyDVD in order to do so. Yey. Call AnyDVD a "ripper" if you want...


Well quite - so it seems. Why let being correct or accurate about it, get in the way...

Sure, ok. I suppose the people who WROTE AnyDVD who say it's NOT a ripper are wrong. That's fine.


Who suddenly made the whole definition of ripping DVD contents specific to DVDshrink?

Who said I was doing that? You apparently didn't read what I said very carefully. The fact that DVD Shrink is being used on the files at the end of the "copying process" (does THAT satisfy you at all??) is completely irrelevant to this discussion. I simply said that VobBlanker was being used to copy the files from the DVD to the hard drive by a lot of Shrink users who got screwed by the latest Sony protection. You could just as easily use Recode, DVD-RB, CloneDVD, whatever at the end of the "copying process". In any case, this is STILL a semantics issue.


There's clearly more than two - simply because once ripped something like vobblanker, probably pgcedit, and almost certainly fixvts, will be able to clean-up the structure so that DVDshrink would be able to process it.

Really, FixVTS works, eh? Apparently you've never tried it. I want you to go ahead and rip a recent Sony DVD using nothing but AnyDVD, then clean it up with FixVTS, and then do a full disc backup with Shrink. Not a movie only, mind you, a full disc backup. Let me know how you make out. When that completely fails for you, try it with VobBlanker...open the video_ts.ifo file on the Sony DVD as input, select a folder on the hard drive as output, hit the process!! button, and then open that hard drive folder with Shrink.

P.S. The reason I use shrink as a standard for "ripping" is because it REQUIRES a clean DVD structure. That means NO structural protection remnants can be left over in the rip.

[setarip_old]

With all the bickering and hairsplitting that's evolved here, perhaps it would be beneficial to remember that this thread is about "RipIt4Me" - and the simple fact of the matter is that, as of today, the "RipIt4Me" package (even the older v.1.6.4, that I continue to use) can still properly process all DVD-compliant commercialDVDs...

[SamuriHL]

With all the bickering and hairsplitting that's evolved here, perhaps it would be beneficial to remember that this thread is about "RipIt4Me" - and the simple fact of the matter is that, as of today, the "RipIt4Me" package (even the older v.1.6.4, that I continue to use) can still properly process all DVD-compliant commercialDVDs...

Sorry. I'll take the blame for the off topic stuff and let it drop now. My apologies.

[kurt]

With all the bickering and hairsplitting that's evolved here, perhaps it would be beneficial to remember that this thread is about "RipIt4Me" - and the simple fact of the matter is that, as of today, the "RipIt4Me" package (even the older v.1.6.4, that I continue to use) can still properly process all DVD-compliant commercialDVDs...
nope, not ALL. I had some issues with Parfume R2 (I/O Error) today. Anydvd without DDecrypter solved the problem, even if it wasn't possible to rip the entire disk. Title 10 IIRC failed. The thread on Daily Digest is gone unfortunately....

Probably you would call this DVD not complaint, right?

[SamuriHL]

@Lester Burnham

I've agreed to drop the discussion. I'll take your points under consideration, however. My ONLY goal with bringing up the VobBlanker thing was to let the people who use Shrink and AnyDVD know that there's a solution to the problem of the latest Sony discs. FixVTS does not work for them on this issue...I've tried it, it fails. They can use R4M, DVD Fab Decrypter, or a number of other methods other than AnyDVD, yes. VobBlanker does more than simply copy the files...it's rewriting and cleaning up the VOBs as it's copying the files. Assuming that you're using AnyDVD, which you stated you're not, the only other way to get a CLEAN DVD structure that DVD Shrink can open is to use CloneDVD to do the copying. It also cleans up the VOBs as its copying. AnyDVD by itself won't do this and DVD Shrink will fail to open the files. That's my only point. I don't care if it's called a ripper or not. If it'll make everyone happy, I'll gladly call it whatever you want...that part's not important to me. What IS important is that people who like DVD Shrink still have options on the latest titles. If kurt's post is correct, R4M may be in trouble. :( That means less options for us all and that truly sucks.

In any case, peace and I will leave this subject alone. My intention was never to cause such a huge discussion over this and for that I sincerely apologize to everyone.

[SamuriHL]

nope, not ALL. I had some issues with Parfume R2 (I/O Error) today. Anydvd without DDecrypter solved the problem, even if it wasn't possible to rip the entire disk. Title 10 IIRC failed. The thread on Daily Digest is gone unfortunately....

Probably you would call this DVD not complaint, right?

That's rather ungood news. :( Hopefully a work around can be found to allow R4M to work with whatever new, nasty protection they put on this disc. The AnyDVD status window will tell you what protection you're up against. If it's ARccOS or RipGuard then yes, definitely not compliant.

[jsoto]

VobBlanker is not a ripping tool, it is an editing tool.

However it is true that it includes code to manage corrupt VOBs, and it is also able to recalculate a lot of internal pointers. But all of those things are oriented to recover as many data as possible and not to remove specific protections.

jsoto

[SamuriHL]

VobBlanker is not a ripping tool, it is an editing tool.

However it is true that it includes code to manage corrupt VOBs, and it is also able to recalculate a lot of internal pointers. But all of those things are oriented to recover as much data as possible and not to remove specific protections.

jsoto

Then my apologies to you for even inferring that it is a ripper. I am wrong. Thank you for the clarification.

[setarip_old]

@kurtHi!Probably you would call this DVD not complaint, right?That's absolutely correct!The "Das Parfum" DVD has clearly been indicated to be NON-compliant (Duplicate .IFOs, etc.) in many posts at this and other forums. Simply do a "Search" for "Das Parfum" at this and other video forums to understand the details.

So I repeat, as of today, the "RipIt4Me" can handle any compliant DVD...

[blutach]

As far as compliance goes, setarip_old has observed in the past that studios are not allowed to put the DVD-Video label on if the DVD is not compliant with the standard/specification.

So, the structures we have seen recently must be compliant. As mpucoder said here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=971592#post971592): Hardware players only need VIDEO_TS.IFO (under the Micro-UDF filesystem)

If a software player is to emulate perfectly a hardware one, it also should only need that in the DVD's filesystem and ignore the rest, including multiple entries.

This should imply that software players that are properly written should also be able to play the original DVD - even those ones that have appeared in Germany recently - since VIDEO_TS.IFO is unambiguously in the filesystem.

Unfortunately, many software players (and even some hardware players) can not as it seems they rely on the filesystem.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

One of the great things about R4M, at least to me, was its uncanny ability to clean up screwed up DVD structures such as that found on Sony and Disney discs(arccos and ripguard repsectively). This is why I use the DVD Shrink "test for compliance"...it requires a flawless DVD structure which R4M usually can supply. If these latest discs are SO screwed up that software and hardware players are having problems playing them, then it doesn't fit my personal definition of compliance. Yes, they can use the DVD logo and are probably technically within spec, but, that doesn't make it ok to me. :) It's pretty sad when you need to make a backup not just to keep your original safe, but, in order to even play the thing at all! This latest development with R4M not working on this title worries me. I was hoping that it would take much longer before we found ourselves in that situation. This does NOT mean R4M is useless and should be thrown out. FAR from it. This is (currently) one disc in one region. But it could be a sign of things to come...

[setarip_old]

@blutach

You appear to be contradicting yourself. In the following thread (and several others at both Doom9 and another forum), you referred to "Das Parfum" as being an "illegal" DVD...

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=970768&postcount=2

[SamuriHL]

Oh, NASTY...I just found this article talking about the protection used on this disc. It's more than just one, apparently, and it's going to upset a LOT of people. Enjoy!

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/index.php?p=114

[blutach]

I always defer to mpucoder setarip. Everyone does :)

Regards

[setarip_old]

@SamuriHL

That article was dated October 2006 - and includes the statement that:The other day they released an updated version of AnyDVD which effortlessly bypasses Protect DVD-Video.The reason I mention the date of the article is that I can't recall seeing any postings indicating that anyone had run into this proposed copy protection in the real world or, if they did, they had no difficulty circumventing it...

[SamuriHL]

@SamuriHL

That article was dated October 2006 - and includes the statement that:The reason I mention the date of the article is that I can't recall seeing any postings indicating that anyone had run into this proposed copy protection in the real world or, if thay did, they had no difficulty circumventing it...

The reason I posted that article is because I was looking for more information on Das Parfum and ran across a posting in the DVD Fab forum on cdfreaks that suggests that the protection on this and a few other discs is a new version of the Protect DVD Video copy protection. Around the same time those titles came out, AnyDVD was updated to deal with them. So yes, the article is a bit old, but, it's the same protection they are talking about.

(Slightly off topic) One of the reasons it's taking Slysoft so long in creating a new stand alone ripper for AnyDVD is that they want to add support for these screwed up protections and they want to find a "clever" solution to the problem.

If R4M can't deal with this protection, then it's likely we'll see more of it popping up in other regions on soon to be released discs. And that would suck for everyone.

[SamuriHL]

@setarip_old

Sorry, I just realized that I didn't post a link to the cdfreaks post I was referring to and I know you like it when people back up their posts with links.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1738229&postcount=7

[DetroitBaseball]

What has happened to RipIt4Me??

[SamuriHL]

Well, it's no longer being developed for one. And now it seems there's a new version of a protection that the current(last) version of R4M can't handle. Extremely sad news. But, once again, it doesn't mean R4M is completely useless...it just means that there are some discs it can't handle.

[DetroitBaseball]

I know, but why isn't it being developed anymore?

[SamuriHL]

There's no hard information on that. Speculation is rampant in this thread so you may want to read through the last few pages.

[DetroitBaseball]

Either way, I use AnyDVD as you already know Samuri, but I really liked RipIt4Me as a great free alternative. RIP.

[SamuriHL]

As do I, but, yes, R4M was extremely beneficial to the community and will be sadly missed. Just make sure you download the latest version before it disappears or becomes difficult to find. It's still an extremely useful product to have kicking around.

[DetroitBaseball]

As do I, but, yes, R4M was extremely beneficial to the community and will be sadly missed. Just make sure you download the latest version before it disappears or becomes difficult to find. It's still an extremely useful product to have kicking around.
I keep a lot of programs on my flash drive. I have it saved. It will eventually not work on most new DVDs though, sadly.

[SamuriHL]

It is unfortunately a good probability. I don't like any situation that eliminates a consumer's choice...and the decision the studios made to get rid of R4M does exactly that. What bites is that we now have discs that can't even be played by the legitimate owner on their expensive AV equipment(be it a HTPC or a new high end stand alone player). Backing it up and removing the protection was at least ONE viable method for enjoying their purchase. Now the choice of products to use to make that backup is smaller. Wonderful...

[setarip_old]

I can't quite put my finger on it but, is there something ironic that smacks of overkill, in adding new protection schemes to German releases, when it's (as I understand) totally illegal to make any kind of DVD backups under German law?

Does anyone know if the R1 version of "Das Parfum" contains the same copy protection scheme?

[SamuriHL]

It's not released in any other region yet. I BELIEVE region 2 is scheduled for this month? And I have no idea what protection is on that version.

[techreactor]

Well, it's no longer being developed for one. And now it seems there's a new version of a protection that the current(last) version of R4M can't handle. Extremely sad news. But, once again, it doesn't mean R4M is completely useless...it just means that there are some discs it can't handle.

Where did you see this new protection, I mean in which DVD ??

[setarip_old]

@techreactor

Hi!Where did you see this new protection, I mean in which DVD ??As discussed earlier in this thread, a few German releases, including "Das Parfum"...

[SamuriHL]

Yea, as Seta said, apparently on a few German releases. I don't live in Germany so I have yet to see this. It was mentioned by someone else that they couldn't rip Das Parfum with R4M so I went and did a search for that movie to find out what kind of protection it was using. The folks at Slysoft updated AnyDVD on 3/15 to handle this and 2 more discs that use this foolish protection. In fact, in the AnyDVD change log they had quite a bit to say about how ridiculous this particular protection is. For instance, if you spent a lot of money building an HTPC, you would be pretty mad to find out that these discs don't play on it. Fortunately I have AnyDVD installed on my HTPC so even if this protection is found in other regions, it won't affect me. But I find it rather disheartening that R4M is "defeated" by this ugly protection.

[setarip_old]

(Originally asked on 3/22 - No answers)

I do not have access to the "Das Parfum" DVD, but I'm curious to know if (as I've done with other DVDs) you can use "RipIt4me" in ".ISO" mode to make a true 1:1 copy, including the protection scheme,and burn it to a DVD9...

[kurt]

sorry, if I would still own the DVD I would try it....

[RedFox 1]

I can't find the FixVTS homepage now, is that gone too.:devil:

[setarip_old]

@alan1476

Hi!

Quickly try:

http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/Downloads.htm

[SamuriHL]

FixVTS has also been removed from existence.

http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=327789

SIGH...

[setarip_old]

@SamuriHL

"alan1476" posted the same information/link, a short while ago, in the "One-click" sub-forum here...

[SamuriHL]

Thanks, setarip, I missed the post. This really is sad to see happen. Especially in light of all the problems people have been having just trying to play their legitimately bought DVDs lately. At least with R4M and FixVTS around you could back them up and play the copy if you ran into compatibility issues. Now they've taken that away from us. It's just maddening. Especially given the amount of movies I tend to buy per month...I play them on HTPC's but these latest protections won't allow that. Fortunately I have AnyDVD, but, that doesn't help the R4M users very much. :(

[Mike89]

How the hell can they do this? This program doesn't remove copy protection. Is Vobblanker and/or PgcEdit next?

[setarip_old]

How the hell can they do this?Life isn't fair.

"Deep pockets" (Money) and a lot of legal pressure on those with less money and less, if any, legal representation, can coerce the desired result - whether or not any laws have truly been violated.

A prime example of such behavior is noted regarding the president of "Monster Cable". He ordered his attorneys to send threat/demand letters to any and all companies that have the word "Monster" in their names. The letter demanded 10% of gross profits, while the threat was "we'll sue you and take your company away from you". Perhaps the most outrageous contact was with a company named "Monster Cleaners".

BTW - It was eventually determined (when someone refused to cave in) that "Monster Cable" had no legal claim on the word "monster"...

Personally, I view the bigger concern as being how the authors are being dealt with...

[SamuriHL]

Personally, I view the bigger concern as being how the authors are being dealt with... [/Color]

I agree. :( This whole situation sucks. I wish all the authors well. They gave to the community and expected nothing in return and this is what they have to look forward to. Life's not fair indeed.

[prOnorama]

Sad to hear this

<conspiracy mode> What a coincidence: Sony puts new DVD's with more aggressive copy protections on the market which don't play in certain DVD players and the tools which could correct this are disappearing... </conspiracy mode>

Luckily Sony releases crap movies* mostly, but still I can't avoid them 100% :(

* (content-wise, just an opinion of course)

[RedFox 1]

@alan1476

Hi!

Quickly try:

http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/Downloads.htm

Thanks setarip_old , I just like to check for new versions and I noticed the web page was down, then the news from Video Help, its sad that all this great work has to be kept from the public. I consider the authors of these programs legends and they will not be forgotten.

[setarip_old]

Is Vobblanker and/or PgcEdit next?That may depend upon the "bad guys'" interpretation of pertinent postings in this thread, in this forum, and in other forums, as to whether these programs fall into the same category as the RipIt4me "package".

In my opinion, neither of the programs now falls into that category. PGCEdit has NOTHING to do with ripping (never has) - and VOBBlanker's "finishing touch" capability disappeared with the arrival of the second iteration of "RipGuard" copy protection...

[setarip_old]

@alan1476I just like to check for new versionsThere hasn't been a new version for a couple of months (and you obviously know the apparent situation regarding future updates)...

[SamuriHL]

Even I agree now that jsoto has clarified his position that VobBlanker has NOTHING to do with ripping. It's an editor, nothing more. So, hopefully they leave it the hell alone.

[setarip_old]

Let's hope that, in addition to my wish that the authors are not mistreated, "they" don't go after everyone (documentarians, translators, etc.) associated with "RipIt4Me"...

[wildchild77]

This is a very disturbing trend that has started with the disappearance of the great freeware tools over the past couple of weeks. I believe FixVTS's source code was made public, not sure about Menu Shrink. A lot of people might benefit if future freeware tools are made open source, it may be the only way if this trend continues. We still don't know the details of what's happening, but it seems someone has become very aggressive with there tactics.

[linx05]

and VOBBlanker's "finishing touch" capability disappeared with the arrival of the second iteration of "RipGuard" copy protection...
What was this feature you speak about?

[techreactor]

Well there was no further development planned for menushrink and so it might live forever like DVDD and DVD shrink.

But removing fixvts is definitely a blow to the community. I would still call for releasing the sources of all such popular tools while the authors can, to avoid further disappointment.

[setarip_old]

@linx05

For DVDs using the first iteration of "RipGuard" copy protection (primarily Disney releases), the following procedure yielded a "cleaned up" rip:

Rip this "RipGuard"-protected DVD to your harddrive using DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4.

Then load the rip into VOBBlanker and:

Set an output directory, select "Process all" - and then press the "Process" radiobutton.

The new DVD "package" created by VOBBlanker in your output directory should be processed properly by DVD Shrink...

[r0lZ]

Anyway, it's not because a tool is able to clean the ARccOS crap up that it must be considered as a ripper. IMO, VobBlanker and MenuShrink are perfectly legal programs. Same thing for FixVTS, although it has been specifically used to clean ARccOS DVDs. But it is also used, perfectly legally, to remove unnecessary cells from a DVD modified by PgcEdit, for example. Prohibiting its usage is a shame!

[Boulder]

If MenuShrink is considered illegal then everything related to editing IFOs and VOBs would be as well IMO.. bye-bye DVD Rebuilder etc. Sigh..

[linx05]

@linx05

For DVDs using the first iteration of "RipGuard" copy protection (primarily Disney releases), the following procedure yielded a "cleaned up" rip:

Rip this "RipGuard"-protected DVD to your harddrive using DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4.

Then load the rip into VOBBlanker and:

Set an output directory, select "Process all" - and then press the "Process" radiobutton.

The new DVD "package" created by VOBBlanker in your output directory should be processed properly by DVD Shrink... I already knew that but I thought it was something to do with another feature VobBlanker had. Oh well.

[greath]

I think that things are being taken to the extreme now, and someone needs to make a stand. To use a analogy, cars are legal but if you run somoene over then that's illegal. It's the same with the utilities - they are designed for a legal purpose and if someone happens to use them for something that the movie studios consider unjust then that's their opionion but in no way deems them unlawful.

The world has gone mad.

[setarip_old]

someone needs to make a standPractically speaking, who would that be and what would you suggest be done? (In the '60s, the expression would've been "Get real, man")

[SamuriHL]

Yea, seriously, it's nice in theory, but, you're talking about individuals who make no money off their products that do this out of love for community. When you've got 1000 pound gorilla jumping on your head, it's kind of hard to stand.

[Abond]

I think that things are being taken to the extreme now, and someone needs to make a stand. To use a analogy, cars are legal but if you run somoene over then that's illegal. It's the same with the utilities - they are designed for a legal purpose and if someone happens to use them for something that the movie studios consider unjust then that's their opionion but in no way deems them unlawful.

The world has gone mad.
Your analogy is quite far from perfect. The tool was presented as a helpto make DVD backups perfect, what we think is perfectly legal (and they think is ilegal). Then nobody presented the cars as a tool to run someone over...

[blutach]

Perhaps a gun might have been a better analogy. (Shudders)

Regards

[Abond]

Digitalin - in small amounts it is cure. in big amounts - poison.
Well it is also far from perfect.

[DaChew]

I think the analogy of a 1000 pound gorilla is quite apt, except in this case it would King Kong flicking a fly away with his little finger

[setarip_old]

Just thinking aloud here - I wonder why "they" never went after the author of DVD Shrink, that includes direct decrypting and compressing, during the 15 or so months (April 2003 through July 2004) of its releases?

(I don't believe there was anything particularly "untouchable" about the Spanish website that was used)

[DaChew]

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/news/2004/08/64453

they had bigger fish to fry

[setarip_old]

@DaChew

If you read the ENTIRE history of the events regarding 321 Studios, you'l find that 321 Studios initiated that lawsuit, in an effort to get a court ruling that its product was legal - They lost.

That event in no way explains why "they" didn't pursue the author of what was then the only freeware combination DVD ripping and compressing program - the one that made the entire DVD backup "scene" blossom into something available to the masses...

[HeadBangeR77]

(...)There hasn't been a new version for a couple of months (and you obviously know the apparent situation regarding future updates)...

Just from curiosity: is/was the FixVTS1.603 the last version made available?
I've got enough time for ripping and encoding only like 1-3 months a year, while I remain totally out of business for the rest of time, so I never was up-to-date with the development of the tools that I use. ;)

I've just read the last few pages: I'm worried with what's been going on on the field of copy protection vs. ripping tools recently, as most of you are. I can only count myself lucky all the DVDs that I had bought in Germany, before I moved back to my country, don't contain anything so nasty & malicious like "Das Parfum", and Polish releases are usually much weaker protected. :devil:

cheers,
HDBR77

[r0lZ]

Just from curiosity: is/was the FixVTS1.603 the last version made available?
Yes. :)

[hy_tek]

Just from curiosity: is/was the FixVTS1.603 the last version made available?
I've got enough time for ripping and encoding only like 1-3 months a year, while I remain totally out of business for the rest of time, so I never was up-to-date with the development of the tools that I use. ;)

I've just read the last few pages: I'm worried with what's been going on on the field of copy protection vs. ripping tools recently, as most of you are. I can only count myself lucky all the DVDs that I had bought in Germany, before I moved back to my country, don't contain anything so nasty & malicious like "Das Parfum", and Polish releases are usually much weaker protected. :devil:

cheers,
HDBR77

no the last version was 1.7.1.0...is the version I presently use.

[Rippraff]

He's talking about FixVTS, not RipIt4Me...

Cu Rippraff

[greath]

Perhaps a gun might have been a better analogy. (Shudders)

Regards

I was going to say gun but thought that in the current times it wouldn't be appropriate.

Anyway, by take a stand I meant that there needs to be more than one person responsible. We're back to the distributed development approach and dissemination of information.

Was FixVTS really classed as a ripping tool? Just like corrupting the IFOs can't be thought of as copy-protection in the sense that they have to meet the DVD specification to guarantee playback so are really looking for holes in the tools such as DVD Shrink or DVD Decrypter. As someone else said, FixVTS is designed to remove empty cells and free up space from user-generated content. No more, no less. The fact those dummy cells cause problems to DVD Shrink is not the fault of the FixVTS author.

[hy_tek]

He's talking about FixVTS, not RipIt4Me...

Cu Rippraff


my bad...

[setarip_old]

@greathWas FixVTS really classed as a ripping tool?As a standalone program, probably not. But, as I've speculated previously, the recent direct incorporation into RipIt4me (obviously a ripping tool) may have been what triggered all the recent activity by the "bad guys"...

[HeadBangeR77]

@ r0lZ:
Thanks, mate. That's all I wanted to know. :)

@ setarip_old:
Good to know, even if it's bad news after all.

"Version 1.7.0.0 (28 February 2007)
- First version that integrates our adaptation of FixVTS. There is no need to have FixVTS installed anymore. Several options concerning FixVTS have been renamed/removed, including the FixVTS log, which is now included (and much simplified) into the RipIt4Me log."

Does that mean they have changed something in FixVTS itself while incorporating it into the main application (I don't mean renaming or removing some options, but the "our adaptation" expression")? Do you happen to know?

cheers,
HDBR77

[rbmcgee]

I think I understand what's happening here, but would appreciate confirmation.

Through today (4/23) basically all region 1 DVDs can be ripped if you have a stocked toolbox (AnyDVD, Ripit4me, Shrink, DVDD, FixVTS, etc). Beginning tomorrow (4/24), Sony (Columbia/Tristar) will begin selling DVDs with a new and advanced protection scheme. It is possible/likely that the current tools will not be able to handle this new protection. This will require new tools be developed (or at least new capabilities added to existing tools).

I'm not clear on exactly which titles releasing tomorrow are Sony titles. I assume that beginning tomorrow people will be showing up to indicate which titles can no longer be ripped.

For me, this is important because if I can't rip the DVD to my server I am far, far less inclined to buy it.

Perhaps a sticky should be created to capture this list of unrippable DVDs.

Do I understand this correctly?

[setarip_old]

@rbmcgee

Hi!Beginning tomorrow (4/24), Sony (Columbia/Tristar) will begin selling DVDs with a new and advanced protection scheme.Although this is certainly possible, you won't know until the new releases are released.

In fact, ALL SONY releases to date can be properly processed by RipIt4Me v.1.6.4, which was issued in early January!

[SamuriHL]

@setarip_old

I'm curious how R4M handles R1 The Queen when it comes out tomorrow. I've seen AnyDVD scans of it and it looks like it has some very nasty RipGuard protection on it. Usually R4M has no trouble with it but I'm wondering if it's been upgraded. I know someone said they had trouble ripping The Queen a few days ago but I wasn't able to find out what region it was. I'm guessing region 2 as it's been out there for a while now.

[rbmcgee]

@rbmcgee

Hi!Although this is certainly possible, you won't know until the new releases are released.

In fact, ALL SONY releases to date can be properly processed by RipIt4Me v.1.6.4, which was issued in early January!
Thanks setarip_old. I'll be tuning in tomorrow to see how this shakes out.

[sillKotscha]

In fact, ALL SONY releases to date can be properly processed by RipIt4Me v.1.6.4, which was issued in early January!

Thank YOU for clarifying THIS. What would WE be without YOU and your REMARKABLE posts.

:thanks:

[stars]

Well everything is very quiet about what happen about the 1 april..:angry:
And the door is closed for disscusion....I have found something
on the net. In another forum that can put some light to the some
questions...If this is true I dont know but It could be....

--- copied text ---
Ripit4me was taken down because it circumvented copyguard protection.
The culprits were most likely Sony/Macrovision.
DVDD decrypter has been unsupported now for 2 years, having been involved with DVDD,
it falls flat now without the help of ripit4me to create PSL files for decrypter to read and bypass.
The people involved in this recent legal action have had their computers seized and given
gag orders not to talk about it as well as being told to continue posting on their
respective forums which are know being monitored.

---- edited info removed ----

These raids took place in the UK, Austrilia, France,and the U.S.A.
The main reason was to find the develeper of the PSL file code which effectively
enabled DVDD to bypass any new copyguard brought into being.

The downfall of one issues rebirth for another...........

---- end ----

stars....

[setarip_old]

@stars

Hi!

That posting was already referenced here, in this thread, on April 15th (Click on the orange-colored "This" in the post):

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=989098&postcount=521

[DaChew]

has anyone else found something that would reenforce that story?

kind of funny with such actions on three continents only one post?

[michaelhill]

I have created a small download mirror for ripit4me, it would be a shame if it disappears.

here is the current active link to the site: RipIt4Me download/ (http://www.yardcure.com/ripit4me/)

Tomorrow it will be only available here: RipIt4Me download/ (http://ripit4me.yardcure.com/ripit4me/)

have fun :)

[setarip_old]

@DaChewhas anyone else found something that would reenforce that story?I rather doubt that anyone with firsthand knowledge would (or should) be willing to post anything concrete - because they'd possibly/likely put themselves in jeopardy.

The simple fact of the matter is that "RipIt4Me" and "FixVTS" are apparently no longer being updated...

[Mystiqq]

I dont blame the people who "give up" their hobby projects like this, i think anyone would do the same in similar situation. Though it still bothers me why people just "vanish" without anykind of answer or hint as to why. As far as i can tell, for instance, FixVTS wasnt illegal or anything of the sort, yet its gone...

"People" with money seem to have the power to "claim" all sorts of BS, when they are against people with less. Its really healthy world we are living in, i cant wait to see where it all ends.

[dialysis1]

The author of FixVTS posted in another forum and said that he cannot talk about it.
http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=327789&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

[setarip_old]

@SamuriHLI'm curious how R4M handles R1 The Queen when it comes out tomorrow."The Queen" is a Miramax release. Perhaps I haven't been paying attention recently (It's an age thing and I'm likely mistaken;>}) but, although it's part of the Disney "family" I don't recall Miramax availing itself to either "RipGuard" or "ARccOS" protection.

On the other hand, "Deja Vu" R1 is also being released on April 24. As it's a Disney-related release, we can likely look forward to "RipGuard" protection on it...

[SamuriHL]

@SamuriHL"The Queen" is a Miramax release. Perhaps I haven't been paying attention recently (It's an age thing and I'm likely mistaken;>}) but, although it's part of the Disney "familiy" I don't recall Miramax availing itself to either "RipGuard" or "ARccOS" protection.

On the other hand, "Deja Vu" R1 is also being released on April 24. As it's a Disney-related release, we can likely look forward to "RipGuard" protection on it...

From the Slysoft forums:


Originally Posted by AnyDVD for The Queen
Summary for drive F: (AnyDVD 6.1.3.6)
SONY DVD RW DRU-710A BYX5 MAY26 ,2005
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 2016864 sectors (3939 MBytes)
Total size: 4016283 sectors (7844 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: THE_QUEEN
Media is CSS protected!
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is locked to region(s): 1!

RCE protection not found.
Found & removed wrong DVD structure!
Found & removed Macrovision RipGuard protection!
Found & removed error zones between files!
Found & removed invalid VOBUs!
Found & removed invalid program from program chain!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Found & removed 2 bad sector protections!
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!



Originally Posted by AnyDVD for Dejavu
Summary for drive F: (AnyDVD 6.1.3.6)
SONY DVD RW DRU-710A BYX5 MAY26 ,2005
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 2010480 sectors (3926 MBytes)
Total size: 4003355 sectors (7819 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: DEJA_VU_US_16X9
Media is CSS protected!
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is locked to region(s): 1!

RCE protection not found.
Found & removed wrong DVD structure!
Found & removed Macrovision RipGuard protection!
Found & removed error zones between files!
Found & removed invalid program from program chain!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Found & removed 2 bad sector protections!
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!

[setarip_old]

SONY DVD RW DRU-710A BYX5 MAY26 ,2005Looks like you're getting good use out of an older drive ;>}

[SamuriHL]

Looks like you're getting good use out of an older drive ;>}

Oh that's not from me. That's from a post on the Slysoft forum. I don't have access to movies before they come out. Some people that own video stores tend to get them a week or so in advance. And lately they've been posting AnyDVD scans of new movies as they come in. No, I've got a couple Lite On drives, an NEC drive built into my laptop, and a brand new LG drive with usb case coming tomorrow. :)

[setarip_old]

V.1.64.0

Use "Wizard Mode"

SKIP "Step 3B" (Circumvent false "Scratched or dirty disc" message)

Apply FixVTS v.1.603

[laserfan]

Why v1.6.4.0? Was there something about subsequent releases that got messed-up?

[setarip_old]

Why v1.6.4.0?Because, as I've posted several times, v.1.64.0 continues to work for me (I'm a firm believer in that old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!") ;>}

Additionally, there have been posts regarding the subsequent releases that indicated some people were having problems with them - and, in some instances, the author(s) acknowledged newly created bugs...

[LARRYB]

For what it is worth you can down load Ripit4me at the below address:

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/RipItMe-Download-44816.html#download_locations

This is a remote download site.

Larry

[techreactor]

You can even find these tools through this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125061)

[setarip_old]

@techreactor

It appears that the site has been shut down...

[techreactor]

yeah! seems like it, everything is being monitored

[Big_Berny]

Hi,
I just wanted to say that RipIt4Me 1.7.1.0 and FixVTS 1.602 is available here: http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/34251.asp

FixVTS 1.603 will be uploaded within the next days.

Big_Berny

[Thundik81]

I just wanted to say that RipIt4Me 1.7.1.0

No it's not 1.7.1.0 :D

Versions 1.5.1.0 to 1.7.1.0 :
http://files-upload.com/198347/R.rar.html
PW : 4doom9

[Big_Berny]

No it's not 1.7.1.0 :D

Versions 1.5.1.0 to 1.7.1.0 :
http://files-upload.com/198347/R.rar.html
PW : 4doom9

It should be 1.7.1.0... Although the screens are a bit outdated!

[TheRevoker]

You REALLY believe they just simply told LUK "Hey, discontinue developing it and you're all good." ??? I'd be VERY surprised if part of the deal he got was not to turn over the source code. But at that point, the magic that was DVDD was already out in the wild. There was nothing they could do about it. No, that information was never made public as I'm sure LUK got a gag order basically saying he couldn't discuss the details, but, come on...they raid your house they're going to take your machine. And on that machine is going to be the source code of your project. So yea, I'm pretty sure...do I know for a fact? No, I don't, but, I'd be very surprised if they didn't have access to the source.


To put an end to all this speculation rubbish about DVDDecrypter once and for all:

Lightning UK was approached by Macrovision and was offered a no-litigation deal and a cash settlement. He effectively sold all the rights to the program (DVDDecrypter), including its source code, to Macrovision.

In short, he isn't a martyr. He got paid for the program and agreed to keep his silence and not continue its development.

I don't know the deal with RipIt4Me or FixVTS, but I would assume that they got the same deal, as the "keep it quiet" condition is the same.

[setarip_old]

@TheRevoker

Hi!

Since you're apparently not "LIGHTNING UK!" -

And your source of firsthand irrefutable evidence is?

(Not that the "True DVD Decrypter Story" is currently significant one way or the other regarding the "True RipIt4Me Story")

[TheRevoker]

@TheRevoker

Hi!

Since you're apparently not "LIGHTNING UK!" -

And your source of firsthand irrefutable evidence is?

(Not that the "True DVD Decrypter Story" is currently significant one way or the other regarding the "True RipIt4Me Story")

I was there.

[blutach]

Travelled a fair way from Sydney then Revoker for what would have been a highly confidential meeting.

Cut the bullshit or risk a strike. This is not the place for gossip, no matter how titillated that makes you feel.

Regards

[TheRevoker]

Travelled a fair way from Sydney then Revoker for what would have been a highly confidential meeting.

Cut the bullshit or risk a strike. This is not the place for gossip, no matter how titillated that makes you feel.

Regards


No bullshit here. I have worked for MVSN, and many other companies - and unlike most Aussies, I actually leave the country every once in a while.

I don't appreciate your comments, but this being the internet and all that, I can understand where they come from.

If you want to know more, email me.

[blutach]

I do not want to know more. I want you to cut the gossip. This is not the forum for that.

If you think I am tough, wait for Doom9.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@TheRevoker

As my final posting on this topic, I'd make the following observation:

If, in fact, you were present and, on behalf of Macrovision, "involved" in the settlement, you must know that Non-Disclosure agreements typically bind BOTH parties (hence the term "agreement"). Therefore, whether or not you are now affiliated with Macrovision, it would seem that you've (on behalf of Macrovision) violated that agreement by disclosing the details in this forum...

[Fator.br]

I have Ripit4me 1.7.1.0 + LBA Extract + FAQ 1.7.10.

**************
Test Ripit4me with AnyDVD. In ripit4me.ini, disable anydvd=0

[somebodeez]

I have Ripit4me 1.7.1.0 + LBA Extract + FAQ 1.7.10.

**************
Test Ripit4me with AnyDVD. In ripit4me.ini, disable anydvd=0

What is LBA Extract ?

[SPUDS1]

I'm using Ripit4me and am having problems intefacing FixVTS into the add tool position. The help menu is not available & I tried multible times,so before I throw something......

[deuce2]

What version are you using? If you have v.1.7 than I don't think you need to add it.

Excerpt from version history:
"Version 1.7.0.0 (28 February 2007)
- First version that integrates our adaptation of FixVTS. There is no need to have FixVTS installed anymore. Several options concerning FixVTS have been renamed/removed, including the FixVTS log, which is now included (and much simplified) into the RipIt4Me log."

[Mike89]

Like Deuce2 said, you don't need it for 1.7. The "Cleanup VOBs" takes the place of it. You could still do it though. In the Tools section select "Setup Tools" then "Add Tool". Then browse to where the FixVTS exe is. It will then name it something like "new tool", I forget, but you can then rename it.

[SPUDS1]

Thanks Deuce 2 & Mike 89, I sure appreciate your help.

[Emoto]

Has anyone attempted backing up The Holiday (Jack Black, Cameron Diaz) with 1.7.1.0 yet?

[Mike89]

Yep. Backed up fine.

[linx05]

After reading the news on the front page of Doom9, it came to a big surprise about who was responsible and who had a visit to their house. The program is still going strong though. I wonder when the next big freeware will make a break through?

[setarip_old]

@linx05it came to a big surprise about...who had a visit to their house.No surprise - action taken in Australia, action taken against those residing in Australia...

[linx05]

It was sarcasm setarip. Probably should have emphasised that a bit more. He knows I knows from my emails.

[m1ckran]

Before reading the Doom9 news regarding the Sony-RipIt4Me-FixVTS saga, I must admit to being disappointed with the attitude of moderators on this site towards members who were asking, what seemed to me, perfectly understandable questions.

I was even considering closing my membership and abandoning the site because its character had apparently changed for the worse with Blutach, in particular, becoming a Jekkyl & Hyde character. The only thing that prevented me was the suspicion that much more had probably been going on behind the scenes that could not, for some reason, be revealed.

I was shocked to read what had actually happened. I can't imagine what it must feel like to have your home raided by the police. It must be terrifying! Knowing that the law is in the pocket of the bully-boys, and that you've really done nothing wrong, must create an emotional rollercoaster akin to a nervous breakdown. I guess there will be a nasty emotional scar for some considerable time.

My condolences to the victims and my apologies to Blutach for initially thinking ill of him - in the circumstances, I think he has behaved impeccably.

[wildchild77]

first search warrant. Looking through it reveals that they were after anything related to RipIt4Me - starting with its use, its users and ending with its development, and about circumventing Sony's ARccOS DVD corruption mechanism. Thereafter, we have orders that hint towards the secrecy of the proceedings (I'd be very interested if somebody living down there would go down to the registrar and asked to see all documentation related to the case

I find this part particulrly disturbing considering I posted quite a lot in the Ripit4Me Linux section at DD including a guide on my site that was linked with Miss Marples original guide. I have since changed the guide to how to install DVD Rebuilder on Linux but Ripit4Me is still ghoing strong,

SONY SUCKS!

[Emoto]

Yep. Backed up fine.


Thanks, Mike. Good to know.

To comment on the larger issue being discussed, I put nothing past a company that had a root kit on their discs and then misrepresented the fix...

[blutach]

mick - thanks for the nice words, but feel free to continue to despise me, for I will remind you, once again, that the Aussies trounced the poms 5-0 in the Ashes :D

All the best everyone.

Regards

[zacoz]

Yep....Same ol' Blu we know and Love.

Cheers Mate. http://www.replay.ru/forum/style_emoticons/default/drinks.gif

[tom942]

I really don´t know what to say about SONY (other corps can apply this too) and their lawsuits against people.

So avoid their "techniques" to make our dvd's compliant standard is illegal, but trample our rights to got a backup of our dvds, it isn´t. I really like to see that yardstick it's the same for corps than for the normal people, he.

Maybe they should look in other direction to find the answer why the things are going wrong in cinema industry aswell music industry.

In the case of cinema, since they bought Tristar and later Columbia (correct me if I wrong), the quality of cinema has been getting worse and worse. Do they remember what is a script?

Less trample our rights with stupid lawsuits, and make true movies, not just CG's, FX's and multi-channel sound...

Sorry, it's one of many things that make me get angry when you see that is so unfair.

See you.

[Rich86]

How anyone can call Sony's "arccos" a digital copy protection mechanism is beyond me. It seems to be nothing more than a collection of intentional defects, causing players and programs alike to jump around and over numerous corrupt areas and phony video files and titlesets in the attempt to play the video title. But I expect Sony has the right to compromise their products, and harm their quality reputation, if they so choose.
I actually purchased a Sony dvd title today (Ghost Rider) for the first time in a very long time, due to their constant paranoia concerning copy protection resulting in increasingly disappointing dvd products loaded with corrupt sectors and phony titlesets and short on quality video and entertainment. But after reading the articles and reference documents, and gaining a reinforced understanding of the values and nature of this company, I expect I will return it - and rent it instead.
I also find myself feeling better every day with my 46" Sharp 1080p lcd tv - purchased recently instead of the Sony model I originally targeted for purchase.
The message is - if you do not like how a company behaves or find yourself in conflict with their values and attitudes or detect a trend in their products and/or service offerings that you find unacceptable - don't do business with them.

[SamuriHL]

Ghost Rider has no protection other than CSS...

[kis2005]

I use to think highly of SONY, but since the root kit I have never and will never buy anything from SONY.

btw SamuriHL, what region are you referring to? I had issue with R1.

[SamuriHL]

R1. Like I said, no protection on it except CSS. Several people have posted scans of it. No ARccOS.

[kis2005]

Well that tells me that I must have a bad disc. Again they have effectively stopped me from being able to WATCHING the DVD....wait that isn't there objective is it? Feel the sarcasm...

[SamuriHL]

hahaha, I understand the frustration. However, yea, it would seem like a bad disc if you're having issues with it. The scans I've seen show absolutely no protection. Which is an interesting development. The last couple weeks new Sony releases have not been ARccOS protected.

[DaChew]

The last couple weeks new Sony releases have not been ARccOS protected.

they tried and gave up, spending their money on lawyers now

[Rich86]

Well that tells me that I must have a bad disc. Again they have effectively stopped me from being able to WATCHING the DVD....wait that isn't there objective is it? Feel the sarcasm...

Well, I kept the Ghost Rider extended version dvd set I bought - and my Lite-On 16A7S wants no part of the middle of this movie disc - however my Benq 1655 reads, plays, and/or processes this title just fine. So, I'm not sure whether to blame the dvd or the drive . . . this has happened before with certain Sony titles and this Lite-On drive. I guess I'll give it a workout on my standalone dvd players to see how it fares there.
Although this title does not appear to have any corrupt sectors or string of phony vts titlesets, it does still have autorun initiated executables on the disc. Why Sony does that is beyond me.

[HanSooloo]

How anyone can call Sony's "arccos" a digital copy protection mechanism is beyond me. It seems to be nothing more than a collection of intentional defects, causing players and programs alike to jump around and over numerous corrupt areas and phony video files and titlesets in the attempt to play the video title. But I expect Sony has the right to compromise their products, and harm their quality reputation, if they so choose.
I actually purchased a Sony dvd title today (Ghost Rider) for the first time in a very long time, due to their constant paranoia concerning copy protection resulting in increasingly disappointing dvd products loaded with corrupt sectors and phony titlesets and short on quality video and entertainment. But after reading the articles and reference documents, and gaining a reinforced understanding of the values and nature of this company, I expect I will return it - and rent it instead.
I also find myself feeling better every day with my 46" Sharp 1080p lcd tv - purchased recently instead of the Sony model I originally targeted for purchase.
The message is - if you do not like how a company behaves or find yourself in conflict with their values and attitudes or detect a trend in their products and/or service offerings that you find unacceptable - don't do business with them.

Now the question that comes to mind is, shouldn't a consumer group be able to file a class action lawsuit against ALL movie (DVD, BD, HD DVD alike) authoring studios due to their sales of "defective products that sway from industry accepted standards in an intentional and deceptive way"?

At the end of the day how is "inserting defective sectors/titlesets into a DVD structure so that unauthorized programs cannot read the DVD" different than "inserting extremely hard chocolate chips into a cookie, in case your teeth are not authorized to bite on the cookie"?

I would say we could argue that there is real harm done to the consumer (cannot watch DVD movies OR breaks his/her teeth) due to deceptive marketing (DVDs can be watched on any player OR anyone can eat a chocolate chip cookie).

Can the EFF legal team take a look at this and see if it makes form a legal stand point?

Regards,
Han Sooloo

[Rich86]

Well, I kept the Ghost Rider extended version dvd set I bought - and my Lite-On 16A7S wants no part of the middle of this movie disc - however my Benq 1655 reads, plays, and/or processes this title just fine. So, I'm not sure whether to blame the dvd or the drive . . . this has happened before with certain Sony titles and this Lite-On drive. I guess I'll give it a workout on my standalone dvd players to see how it fares there.
Although this title does not appear to have any corrupt sectors or string of phony vts titlesets, it does still have autorun initiated executables on the disc. Why Sony does that is beyond me.

On a more positive note . . .
"Ghost Rider" extended edition (R1 widescreen) appears to have used its available double layer space on the media for larger, higher bit-rate video files than recent releases and an included dts5.1 soundtrack. So - in the midst of all the deserved criticism Sony gets - kudos to them for providing this dvd product directed at a hopefully improved quality movie viewing experience instead of loading up the disc with arcoss nonsense!
Now if only I can determine if the media itself is marginal - or my Lite-On 16A7S is just finicky . . .

[SamuriHL]

they tried and gave up, spending their money on lawyers now

LOL! It's entirely possible. Either that or they're going to replace ARccOS with something even more dreadful. Protect DVD Video, perhaps?

[setarip_old]

If you look back over the last year or two, you'll observe that SONY has sporadically put out new releases without "ARccOS" protection.

Additionally, back in February (if I remember correctly), there was an article in the electronic version of Forbes magazine that stated SONY was discontinuing the application of "ARccOS". That discontinuation lasted for one week.

As an aside, I don't believe "ARccOS" has ever been applied to a "SONY DVD Classics" release...

[blutach]

Either that or they're going to replace ARccOS with something even more dreadful. Protect DVD Video, perhaps?Unlikely, given the trouble that disks with this system are having actually playing. Not much use protecting disks so much that they can not play on all players.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

Unlikely, given the trouble that disks with this system are having actually playing. Not much use protecting disks so much that they can not play on all players.

Regards

I would ordinarily agree with you, but, Sony has shown an incredible arrogance when dealing with consumer issues. It would not surprise me at all if they went this direction. It would, however, shock me if they simply stopped trying to protect their discs at all...we'll see what the next few weeks holds in store.

[G_M_C]

Well, someone in Finland could put the newest version of RipIt4me back up offcourse; Since the courts in Finland dont recognize CSS (DVD-protection) as a viable content-protection sceme ;-)

[greath]

Well, someone in Finland could put the newest version of RipIt4me back up offcourse; Since the courts in Finland dont recognize CSS (DVD-protection) as a viable content-protection sceme ;-)

ARCCoS is not CSS so even though CSS has been broken and cannot be updated, ARCCoS can be changed on newer discs so perhaps as an on-going content protection scheme it is still viable.

[G_M_C]

ARCCoS is not CSS so even though CSS has been broken and cannot be updated, ARCCoS can be changed on newer discs so perhaps as an on-going content protection scheme it is still viable.

Too bad ...sniff...

Looks like there is not other thing to do than wait untill Sony goes bankrupt. They're loosing money so fast that it wont be long now I hope :p

[kis2005]

I had to get a new disc and Ghost Rider wouldn't play in my LiteOn but would on my standalone and with my Samsung. I think another issue with SONY is their poor quality control. I have had issue with more than a few SAP and DVD Drives and when they pulled the Rootkit stunt, that was the end. There are too many other places to spend my money. There is a saying, "Keep your customers happy and they will keep you happy." SONY has to learn that they are here for us, we are not her for them.

[Rich86]

ARCCoS is not CSS so even though CSS has been broken and cannot be updated, ARCCoS can be changed on newer discs so perhaps as an on-going content protection scheme it is still viable.

Maybe - but has anything stubbed RipIt4Me's toes yet?

[Wombler]

Maybe - but has anything stubbed RipIt4Me's toes yet?

It won't cope with 'ProtectDVD' but that's only been used on a handful of German releases so far.


Wombler

[Rich86]

It won't cope with 'ProtectDVD' but that's only been used on a handful of German releases so far.
Wombler

I keep reading that a fair number of standalone dvd players cannot cope with 'Protect DVD' either . . . .

[blutach]

@Rich86

I will not comment on the decryption issues, for what are now obvious reasons, but will add this:

AFAIK, a DVD only needs VIDEO_TS.IFO in its filesystem. Of course, the other files need to be on the disk, but not necessarily in the FS, since (at least standalone) players are really dumb and work only on sectors and the sectors in VIDEO_TS.IFO are sufficient to identify where all the relevant files are. I have made several test DVDs like this and they all play on my players, which are heavily standard compliant.

Players which do not like these "corrupt" filesystems are probably not fully compliant. Now, for all practical purposes, the DVDs produced needs to play on all players (including software ones which tend to like filesystems to be intact) - otherwise, the disks will be returned as defective, and this is just not economically viable.

So, while ProtectXDVD may, in actuality, be standard compliant, it may not (thru no fault of its own) be a workable, practical system, as people must be able to play their DVDs - even on their non-compliant players.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

@blutach

I surmise that a lot of players are internally just PC components and that's why they have issues with these discs. IOW, if it can play on a PC in a software player like PowerDVD or WinDVD, then these cheap players made with standard PC components will probably be fine. But, any protection that causes a PC to fail to read it will in all likelihood cause these players to fail, as well. That's just my theory and take on this situation...

[blutach]

In the end, I guess I am saying (and so was Rich86, if I interpret him correctly), that this system may fail to reach the wider audience because of this fact, not due to its lack of ingenuity.

An SAP simply reads sectors, however, which is undoubtedly different to at least some software players (which are looking for files). IMO, those SAPs which do not simply read sectors from VIDEO_TS.IFO have design defects.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

I'm hoping they drop all stupid protections on DVDs, personally. They're a nuisance to people who purchase DVDs and do NOTHING to prevent people from pirating the DVD if they so choose. Once again, the model is to irritate your paying customers and do absolutely nothing to stop the people ripping you off. The music industry is SLOWLY waking up to this concept...people are going to pay for your work or they're not. Technical measures like DRM do nothing but annoy people....at least the ones that buy it.

[Rich86]

I'm hoping they drop all stupid protections on DVDs, personally. They're a nuisance to people who purchase DVDs and do NOTHING to prevent people from pirating the DVD if they so choose. Once again, the model is to irritate your paying customers and do absolutely nothing to stop the people ripping you off. The music industry is SLOWLY waking up to this concept...people are going to pay for your work or they're not. Technical measures like DRM do nothing but annoy people....at least the ones that buy it.

Amen. My purchase this week of "Ghost Rider" wasn't because I could not copy it from somewhere if I wanted to. It was because I was interested in the movie, the dvd (at least the extended edition) dedicated its available space to large video files with decent bit rates and included a dts soundtrack - instead of wasting the available optical media with pollution via intentional flaws, corrupt sectors and phony/misleading files. If the industry ever settles on a high definition standard, I will spring for a high def player and buy those releases instead of standard dvd. But until then, watching standard dvd's via my upconverting player to my Sharp 1080p tv will serve just fine.

As far as ProtectDVD goes - Sony has effectively trained me to test every dvd purchase in every device - and if it fails anywhere - it goes back as defective. And I advise anyone who will listen to do the same thing.

[blutach]

I'm hoping they drop all stupid protections on DVDs, personallyAmen indeed, but IMHO, fat chance.

Regards

[SamuriHL]

@rich86

Definitely a good idea to test all purchases on your players. For me that includes 2 HTPCs and my Xbox 360 with HD-DVD drive.

@blutach

I know...It was a hope not a realistic event. ;)

[morpork]

Ripit4me cannot handle PrtoctDVD but the newest release of
DVDFab can cope with it.

[Fator.br]

With Ripit4me i ripper Apocalypto.

Logs.:
http://share.gulli.com/files/1420787392/apocalypto_0.rar.html

R4 Brasil :):eek::p


Look, remove 498 packs???? analise please this log

[setarip_old]

@Fator.br

Hi!

The reference to "remove 498 packs" means nothing by itself. Is there any problem with the rip?

[Fator.br]

No problem. Works

[setarip_old]

No problem. WorksThat's really all that matters ;>}

[zsb]

Well, someone in Finland could put the newest version of RipIt4me back up offcourse; Since the courts in Finland dont recognize CSS (DVD-protection) as a viable content-protection sceme ;-)
Unfortunately, this is not true. The previous decision in lower court is no longer as valid as the prosecutor has taken the case to higher court. We are still waiting for a new trial on the case. A bit off topic, but I still felt I had to point it out :)