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Kostarum Rex Persia
4th June 2006, 00:34
Hi guys, I have one important question: is it matter which resize filter I use, Bilinear, Bicubic, Precise Bilinear, Precise Bicubic, or Lancos3.

Is Lancos3 best resize filter?

Adub
4th June 2006, 01:54
1) don't ask what is best.
2) It depends on how sharp you want your end product to be and what type of video your are dealing with, anime, regular, etc.

Kostarum Rex Persia
4th June 2006, 02:18
It depends on how sharp you want your end product to be and what type of video your are dealing with, anime, regular, etc.

I deal mostly with regular type of video.

MeteorRain
4th June 2006, 04:37
i'd recommend lancos3resize

foxyshadis
4th June 2006, 11:05
3) Why on earth is this in the AVC forum?

It also depends on whether you're going up or down and how far. Bilinear is the softest and lanczos is the most versatile.

bond
4th June 2006, 11:40
3) Why on earth is this in the AVC forum?
moved

Guest
4th June 2006, 12:02
Is Lancos3 best resize filter? Please read and follow forum rules, specifically, rule 12: do not ask what's best. Thank you.

http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm

techmule
4th June 2006, 16:24
For downscaling use Lanczosresize only

For upscaling use Bicubicresize with 0.45 to 0.6 sharpening.

This will avoid any artifacts and bring out good results.

PS: Dont use any other ver of lanczos's cos they cause artifacts

Blue_MiSfit
6th June 2006, 10:43
I disagree. Lanczos4 is a great upscaler. I use it on playback to 1280xwhatever - usually from anamorphic full res AVC. It is much more pleasing to my eyes than using the video card's bilinear/trilinear resizer.

I have yet to notice any artifacts.

For encoding though, I almost always use Lanczos. Only when upscaling when encoding (very rare) will I use Lanczos4. As far as downsizing, Bilinear is good for softer material, otherwise Lanczos.

Isn't LanczosResize(x,y) a Lanczos3 resize? IIRC it is...

I've always wanted to compare the results of DVD-720p from Lanczos4 and a high end hardware upscaler doing say DVD->720p. I bet the hardware units aren't THAT much better. Anyone have one / used one? Sorry if I'm getting a little OT.

~MiSfit

henryho_hk
6th June 2006, 13:08
What about the old good "SimpleResize"?

Fizick
6th June 2006, 16:49
SimpleResize is really bilinear resize with slight different scale definition.

scharfis_brain
6th June 2006, 22:10
for upsizing with factors > than 1.5 I use

eedi2().turnleft().eedi2().turnright().bicubicresize()

when I want to get smooth diagonal edges.

Kostarum Rex Persia
6th June 2006, 23:48
From where I may download Lancos4 resize filter? And, what's the difference between Lancos3 and Lancos4?

I noticed that newest DivX 6.22 encoder have Lancos4 resize filter!

About Bicubic filter, I need explanation in which case I should use him.

And, last question: Are lancos4 will always be first choice of you, guys, even for anime video?

foxyshadis
7th June 2006, 00:21
Ranked in terms of sharpness:
Bilinear, Bicubic, Spline16, Lanczos, Lanczos4, Spline36.

The main difference between Lanczos & Lanczos4 is the latter is slightly sharper but causes slightly more ringing (aka haloing), much like spline16 vs spline36. Spline has less ringing but is somewhat slower.

Both Gauss and Bicubic can be tuned to anywhere from point resize to very soft and blurry, however, by changing their parameters (b & c in bicubic, p in gauss).

All of these are included in avisynth 2.56+.