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Raging_Inferno
24th May 2006, 09:14
I made a FF7 advent children dvd rip because i wanted to get shinsen-subs subtitles into it instead of the offical ugly looking ones. Anyways I used dvd2one, stuck it into avisynth and didn't touch the resize at all, put the subs in, and ran it in cce.

Im new at using ifoedit so i think thats my problem. So I put it into a dvd player with a widescreen tv and parts of the movie gets cropped off. I can only see half of the hard subs i put in.

Was I suppose to resize the video then encode so it stretches out properly? Or is this just an authoring problem that i can fix with a few clicks? I don't have a clue on what settings to touch. I really don't want to reencode this if i was suppose to resize the video.

Thanks in advance

setarip_old
24th May 2006, 20:00
Hi!

Just curious to know if you've tried changing the hardware Display settings of your standalone player (to/from 16:9, 4:3 Pan&Scan, or 4:3 Letterbox)?

Raging_Inferno
24th May 2006, 20:54
yeah i did
thats how i noticed the problem =/

manono
26th May 2006, 17:02
Hi-

If you (stupidly) "burned" or "embedded" the subs into the video, then you'll have to reencode, this time raising the subs, or adding a black border around the video. Just sounds like your average every day TV overscan to me. Much better would be to make the subs selectable. If you had done that in the first place, then you could have used DVDSubEdit to raise them. Depending on how big the movie is (don't know), you may not even have had to reencode it. If you use dual layer DVDs, for sure no reencoding would have been necessary.

Was I suppose to resize the video then encode so it stretches out properly?

It's 1.85:1 and the DVD is 16:9, so it should already fill the screen, unless you did something wrong. No resizing should be necessary.

Raging_Inferno
27th May 2006, 11:24
Nonono the video has been reencoded. I wanted hard subs because I only kept the japanese audio (cuz english dubbing sucks!) and i cannot understand japanese I made it hard subs. I did not want selectable subs because dvd selectable subs are ugly and I wanted a little more design on them, like what fansubbers do. So i reencoded to make it hard subs and to make it fit on a single layer dvd.

What it looks like is that the orginal video is 720x480 like it should be, but the tv only shows it at like 680x440 (of course I don't know the actual resolution its at) so it looks like the tv screen is chopping the movie.

manono
27th May 2006, 12:01
OK, I'll accept your reasoning for making them hard subs, although I don't agree with it.

Have you played the DVD in your computer? And is everything there? And are the subs fully visible? If so, then it's just the TV overscan that's causing the problem. Evidently your TV set has a large overscan. The DVD player may also be contributing to the problem. Some DVD players also crop the picture. When setting up the subs for encoding, you evidently didn't put them inside the safe area which would have kept the subs visible.

My Samsung widescreen has an "Aspect" setting which shows the whole picture with a little black bar around the entire picture. It shrinks it just a little bit. But if you don't have anything similar on your TV or DVD player remote, then there's nothing you can do but reencode, this time either raising the subs, or adding black around the picture to take into account the overscan.

...dvd selectable subs are ugly

The ones I make aren't ugly. Admittedly it's pretty hard to make them with all the colors and different placements like some fansubbers can do, but they don't have to be ugly.

mpucoder
27th May 2006, 17:00
It's probably just the AR flags in the ifo (IfoEdit sets them to 4:3 by default). Try changing them with IfoEdit to 16:9 and auto letterbox.

Raging_Inferno
27th May 2006, 20:14
Yes all of the subs are fully visiable on the computer and the video looks perfect on a computer. Its just when i get it to my widescreen tv is the problem :(

I never tried making my own selectable subs for a dvd so I never really played with the colours and fonts. Usaually fonts on the default dvd source are ugly to me. The soft subtitles were already all intact when I took them out from the mkv that shinsen-subs made so all of their colours and font they picked were still there and I liked their selection so I just kept it.

The AR flags are all ready swtiched to 16:9 with auto letterbox. What happends if I select auto letterbox with auto pan and scan or pan and scan by itself?