Menu Problems With DVD-9 Discs during Playback

[FDQ]

I have recently tried to back up some of my DVDs that extract and burn without incedent. However, when I try to play any of the backed up dual layered DVDs on any of my DVD players, the menus do odd things like;

highlighting options doesn't return after selecting an option through the menu. so, after selecting say, to view the extras, and choosing to return the main menu, the main menu MIGHT appear - but there is no highlighting to know what you would be selecting next to navigate the DVD.

gray appears with incomplete screens become displayed when trying to navigate through the menu.

This is a new development. I have been able to back up DL media before. And DVD5s work fine with full functionality. (Both shrunk from DVD9 and movies from a DVD5 format). The extracted DVDs play fine on my HD with VLC Media player - full functionality.

My DVD Burner is a Plextor 716A with the latest firmware (V 1.09)
I use DVD Decrypter to rip and Nero 7.xxx to burn. (AND have tried different burning speeds.)
I'm using Verbatim DVD+R DL discs
I have Toshiba, Phillips and Lite-On stand-alone DVD players.

I hope this is enough information for a response and it is clear. If not, please ask! Thanks in advance to anyone who can help - this is VERY frustrating!

FDQ

[laserfan]

Either you've gotten a bad batch of media, or your burner has gone south I would guess. Or maybe extended burning sessions are overheating the thing.

What does "Scandisc" (Nero's CDSpeed utility) say about your discs--I'll bet you find errors.

[setarip_old]

Hi!The extracted DVDs play fine on my HD with VLC Media player - full functionality.Do the burned DVDs play properly on your PC, using VLC?

[FDQ]

Good questions and ideas. I didn't get any errors with the Nero Test. Also, they were from different batches (forgot to mention that - sorry.)

And I can play the DVDs with VLC media player on my computer (I didn't think to check that.) I tried the discs on 4 different DVD players with the same problem.

Thanks for the help!

[FDQ]

If I wasn't clear, I'm still trying to figure out the problem.

[setarip_old]

I don't know if this will lead to anything conclusive but, what are the Titles and Region of the DVDs whose backups are problematic...

[FDQ]

All are region 1. The titles vary from Bond movies, Catch me If You Can, Dr. Katz (episodes), Mission Impossible 1 and 2, and others. Some that have worked are, Chasing Amy and the documentary The Corporation.

It seems odd to me that they would play fine on my computer but not in the DVD players.

[setarip_old]

1) I can see no common thread in the list you've provided

2)It seems odd to me that they would play fine on my computer but not in the DVD players.Not really. Many older standalone players have a hard time with many different types of burned media. And, perhaps more importantly, many standalone players have difficulty with burned DL media, especially if "bitsetting" hasn't been used.

You might also try keeping your burn speed for Verbatim DL DVD+R media at 2.4X

3) There's really no need to involve NERO in your burning of DL media. You could instead:

Rip with DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 in "ISO" mode, by selecting "Read .ISO" - and then burn using DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 by selecting "Write .ISO" (As a burning alternative, you could instead use "IMGBurn")...

[FDQ]

Thanks setarip_old. I'll try your ideas and see if they help. Thanks a lot for the input. I really appreciate it.

[setarip_old]

Thanks a lot for the input. I really appreciate it.As always, my pleasure ;>}I'll try your ideas and see if they help.Please post back here to let us know how it goes...

[FDQ]

I am now changing the booktype in DVD Decrypter to DVD Rom instead of burning as DVD+R DL (for ISO files). I never thought this might have been the problem since 3 of the 4 players I played the discs on were newer and I thought it was mostly older players that had the problem with these formats. SO far this had worked 100% of the time.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my help request. I learned some stuff and really appreciate it.

Thanks again people!

[setarip_old]

SO far this had worked 100% of the time.Glad to hear my suggestion worked for you ;>}

[ux-3]

I am facing a similar problem. Since I already burn using DVD-Rom as booktype, that can't be the problem.

From what I have read in other sub-forums, the problem could be Nero. For Sure, Nero places the Layer break at the wrong place when I proceeded as you outlined.
Rip with DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 in "ISO" mode, by selecting "Read .ISO" - and then burn using DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 by selecting "Write .ISO" (As a burning alternative, you could instead use "IMGBurn")...

Sounds like the way to go, I will have to try as well.

[setarip_old]

@ux-3

Hi!

What brand of DVD+R DL media are you using?

[ux-3]

I am using Ricoh 2.4 (and Verbatim). As far as I am concerned, I have the trouble solved (fingers crossed).

I can only advise FDQ to stop use Nero for double layer. I am pretty sure I understand the problem now.see this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=111897)

Never mind what you decide, CHECK THE LAYER BREAK in your standalone. Nero 6.6.1.4 didn't get it right. You might very well have a viewing/ gap problem at that position. And the menues may not work, because some initialisation is done on the second layer (in my case), which is not written according to ifo information. Perhaps, on your seemingly working disks, the menu is on layer zero all together.

I should add that this problem will not occur on a PC software player, since the files are completely written, just don't match ifo information.

[setarip_old]

@ux-3

I'd suggest you stick with Verbatim DL DVD+R which, according to MANY posts at this forum and others (as well as my own personal experience) presently appear to be the only consistently reliable DL burnable media.

What is the brand and model number of your burner?

[ux-3]

I was doing the faulty disk with a PX-716A, I attach a PIE error scan. I agree with you on Verbatim, but find nothing wrong with this particular burn. I doubt that Disk quality is the problem. The first disk done with VOBblanker was written on Verbatim - same problem!

[FDQ]

It's oddly comforting to know I'm not the only one that was having problems. (Sorry ux-3! But we're even using the exact same Plextor and Verbatim media.) I'm going to read that other thread you linked to more in-depth later. I evidently need to learn more about the layer breaks. I still haven't had problems since I started burning .ISO images with either DVD Devrypter or IMGburn. So no more Nero for probably ANY type dvds for me - for now. Next I'm back to playing with VOBblanker and the DL DVDs.

Thanks for posting the information and your issue.

[ux-3]

I've been using Nero for a long time - on DVD5 - without any trouble. It would be nice to have a software that can go the direct way from single files to DVD+R9, but I havent yet found a free one.