Media Player Classic wants Nero codecs?

[fazzaz31]

Tried to play this file once, it ran in Media Player Classic, then froze at 33 minutes; now it won't open at all and I get this message, which I can't make heads or tails of. Where can I get the appropriate codec, and then where do I stash it on my system?:

Also, why is this referring to Nero? As far as I can tell, Nero doesn't own any files on my system, as Media Player is the default player, unless there is a checkbox that I missed somehow? Could this have to do with the file being labeled as "video", instead of mpeg or whatever?

Log file:

Warning
Media Player Classic could not render some of the pins in the graph, you may not have the needed codecs or filters installed on the system.

The following pin(s) failed to find a connectable filter:

Nero Video Decoder::Video Out
Stream 0
Nero Video Decoder

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12 {32315659-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_VideoInfo2 {F72A76A0-EB0A-11D0-ACE4-0000C0CC16BA}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 294912
cbFormat: 112

VIDEOINFOHEADER:
rcSource: (0,0)-(512,384)
rcTarget: (0,0)-(0,0)
dwBitRate: 0
dwBitErrorRate: 0
AvgTimePerFrame: 333333
VIDEOINFOHEADER2:
dwInterlaceFlags: 0x00000000
dwCopyProtectFlags: 0x00000000
dwPictAspectRatioX: 512
dwPictAspectRatioY: 384
dwControlFlags: 0x00000000
dwReserved2: 0x00000000

BITMAPINFOHEADER:
biSize: 40
biWidth: 512
biHeight: 384
biPlanes: 1
biBitCount: 12
biCompression: YV12
biSizeImage: 294912
biXPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biClrUsed: 0
biClrImportant: 0

Media Type 1:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_RGB32 {E436EB7E-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}
formattype: FORMAT_VideoInfo2 {F72A76A0-EB0A-11D0-ACE4-0000C0CC16BA}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 786432
cbFormat: 112

VIDEOINFOHEADER:
rcSource: (0,0)-(512,384)
rcTarget: (0,0)-(0,0)
dwBitRate: 0
dwBitErrorRate: 0
AvgTimePerFrame: 333333
VIDEOINFOHEADER2:
dwInterlaceFlags: 0x00000000
dwCopyProtectFlags: 0x00000000
dwPictAspectRatioX: 512
dwPictAspectRatioY: 384
dwControlFlags: 0x00000000
dwReserved2: 0x00000000

BITMAPINFOHEADER:
biSize: 40
biWidth: 512
biHeight: 384
biPlanes: 1
biBitCount: 32
biCompression: 0
biSizeImage: 786432
biXPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biClrUsed: 0
biClrImportant: 0

Media Type 2:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_YUY2 {32595559-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_VideoInfo2 {F72A76A0-EB0A-11D0-ACE4-0000C0CC16BA}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 393216
cbFormat: 112

VIDEOINFOHEADER:
rcSource: (0,0)-(512,384)
rcTarget: (0,0)-(0,0)
dwBitRate: 0
dwBitErrorRate: 0
AvgTimePerFrame: 333333
VIDEOINFOHEADER2:
dwInterlaceFlags: 0x00000000
dwCopyProtectFlags: 0x00000000
dwPictAspectRatioX: 512
dwPictAspectRatioY: 384
dwControlFlags: 0x00000000
dwReserved2: 0x00000000

BITMAPINFOHEADER:
biSize: 40
biWidth: 512
biHeight: 384
biPlanes: 1
biBitCount: 16
biCompression: YUY2
biSizeImage: 393216
biXPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biClrUsed: 0
biClrImportant: 0

Media Type 3:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: TIME_FORMAT_NONE {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
formattype: FORMAT_VideoInfo2 {F72A76A0-EB0A-11D0-ACE4-0000C0CC16BA}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 16
cbFormat: 112

VIDEOINFOHEADER:
rcSource: (0,0)-(512,384)
rcTarget: (0,0)-(0,0)
dwBitRate: 0
dwBitErrorRate: 0
AvgTimePerFrame: 333333
VIDEOINFOHEADER2:
dwInterlaceFlags: 0x00000000
dwCopyProtectFlags: 0x00000000
dwPictAspectRatioX: 512
dwPictAspectRatioY: 384
dwControlFlags: 0x00000000
dwReserved2: 0x00000000

BITMAPINFOHEADER:
biSize: 40
biWidth: 512
biHeight: 384
biPlanes: 1
biBitCount: 0
biCompression: DXVA
biSizeImage: 16
biXPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biClrUsed: 0
biClrImportant: 0

[fazzaz31]

Ok, this is interesting: I saw the news on the Doom9 front page where a new version of VLC/win32 is available. So I downloaded it, and voila! she runs the file, no fuss, no muss.

Hmm.

Still, my question stands: when Media Classic is asking for a codec that is identified as for another program (like Nero) just what is it asking for? All this codec stuff baffles me.

[setarip_old]

Still, my question stands: when Media Classic is asking for a codec that is identified as for another program (like Nero) just what is it asking for? All this codec stuff baffles me.Also, why is this referring to Nero? As far as I can tell, Nero doesn't own any files on my system, as Media Player is the default player, unless there is a checkbox that I missed somehow? Could this have to do with the file being labeled as "video", instead of mpeg or whatever?That might depend on the format of the video and what software you used to create it...

[fazzaz31]

Unfortunately, I made this file so long ago, I don't even have the original machine. Still, the new VLC install had no trouble running the file. This goes to my general questions: how do these filters/codecs/"pins"? get ownership of files?

I know this is a general question, but maybe you can point me to a reference that would help me out here.

I used to use Windows MovieMaker, but presently use DVDshrink (w/GordianKnot) to rip, as it does a fine job.

[setarip_old]

Maybe someone else will have a "magic bullet" answer for you, but I would first ask you, what is the format of the video? - And what video and audio codecs were used to create it?

[fazzaz31]

Well, I don't know, and that is why I posted the error log file. The properties tag says "video clip." Of course now it's owned by VLC, which plays it no problemo. What it was created with I have plumb forgot, but I was hoping someone would be able to look at that log file and tell me.

Are you telling me there is a way for me to "open up" the file and discover the format? It's a "video" file, or I would know more about what was going on with this file. Newbie, remember?

Still, if VLC plays the file with no complaints or freezups, maybe I should let sleeping dogs lie, but that still wouldn't help me if I don't know how to get the files format.

Everyother video file I have is a regular "VOB" deal.

[fazzaz31]

Well, while waiting for a reply, I Googled some and found this little item from here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directshow/htm/dvvideodecoderfilter.asp


Interlacing: Earlier versions of the decoder always deinterlace the video. As of DirectX 9.0, the DV Video Decoder can preserve the interlacing. This enables the interlaced video to be deinterlaced by the Video Mixing Renderer (VMR), for improved rendering quality. To use this feature, the downstream filter must support VIDEOINFOHEADER2 formats, indicated by that value Format_VideoInfo2 in the formattype member of the AM_MEDIA_TYPE structure. At full resolution output, the deinterlacing flags (dwInterlace) in the VIDEOINFOHEADER2 structure are set to AMINTERLACE_IsInterlaced | AMINTERLACE_DisplayModeBobOrWeave, indicating interlaced fields. At half resolution or lower, dwInterlace is set to zero, indicating progressive frames.

See Also

* DirectShow Filters
* Digital Video in DirectShow


So, I'm guessing that the format is either "Format_VideoInfo2", or "VIDEOINFOHEADER2"; the original video clip was made with DivX, Media Player Classic didn't have the appropriate filters/codec, but the fresh install of the VLC Player did, and when asked to play the clip, VLC did its job.

Sound about right?

[Avish]

So, I'm guessing that the format is either "Format_VideoInfo2", or "VIDEOINFOHEADER2"; the original video clip was made with DivX, Media Player Classic didn't have the appropriate filters/codec, but the fresh install of the VLC Player did, and when asked to play the clip, VLC did its job.Sound about right?Use GSpot or AVIcodec to identify audio/video formats.

Or while playing the vid in VLC, goto View->Stream & Media Info. It'll give u all the info about the file u r playing.

[fazzaz31]

Indeed, in the search, I found more than I bargained for.

Thanx.

[jel]

@ fazzaz31

hi and welcome to the forum!

congratulations in solving your problem :) you have displayed the tenacity and nous in researching your issue that we very much like to see here at doom9.

gold star for you!

and thankyou Avish for your valuable contribution to this thread!

gold star for you too :)

unfortunately i cannot say the same for setarip_old ...
i can see no merit in your posts what-so-ever.
after, once again, jumping in with zero helpful advice, you then re-iterate your first post AFTER fazzaz31 already answered that he created the file so long ago he has forgotten what programs were used.

i find this 'baiting' behaviour unacceptable and have already cautioned you about in the past.
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=811974&postcount=4

strike issued for rule 16.

j

[setarip_old]

@jelunfortunately i cannot say the same for setarip_old ...
i can see no merit in your posts what-so-ever.And the response from "fazzaz31" is why I posted no further to this thread. It appears that by following the suggestion of "Avish" as to HOW to obtain the information I asked about, "fazzaz31" resolved his problem (or, at least, that's your interpretation of the last post in this thread by "fazzaz31"). This would suggest that my questions/advice were not "zero helpful".
I am not challenging the "strike" you've indicated, butwhat is the format of the video? - And what video and audio codecs were used to create it?Please be good enough to explain how this is "baiting"?