Need help narrowing down this problem

[subferno]

I am trying to back up a DVD but it keeps blowing up during the encoding stage.

When I look at the status log, it is extracting STILLS from VTS 2. After a few dozen STILLS have been extracted, it then throws up an error about "folder or file access error" something.

-My folder and files do not have any read/write restrictions on it.
-My harddrive has plenty of space.

-I have done this twice and fails at the same area.
-I played the DVD at that particular scene/photo and it seems fine.
-I used DVDRemake to remove everything except for VTS 2 and let DVDRB extract the STILLS again. Extraction seems to finish without problems. Except that the DVD is not big enough to go through the encoding stage to extract the STILLS (to simulate original scenario).

I would like some help with this. I am afraid to spend another 8+ hours to try it again only to see it fail.

Thanks

[SpazzHH]

It's rather difficult to help when we have no info. Not even the name and region of the DVD or how it was ripped even. But I'll about guarentee that if you do it without any preprocessing, it will breeze right through.

[subferno]

Sorry, forgot about that when I tried to remember what all I did to narrow down my problem.

-Ripped using AnyDVD
-DVDRB Free
-HC 2 pass
-the DVD is from a "private" collection so it doesnt have any region coding

I will give it a final try tomorrow without any preprocessing to see how it goes.

[SpazzHH]

Since the DVD is from a "private" collection are you sure it's 100% DVD compliant to begin with?

[subferno]

Since the DVD is from a "private" collection are you sure it's 100% DVD compliant to begin with?
Yes, I am sure it is compliant. Well, at least its sold at stores and isnt some home-made DVD.

[Voodoochild]

I would like some help with this. I am afraid to spend another 8+ hours to try it again only to see it fail.
Thanks

to spend another 8 hours, but the exact error would help
next time it happens , press "prtScn" print screen save the image and upload it here so people can see the exact error..

if you do that it'll be easier for people here to help

another question if you try to back up other dvd it happens exactly in the same place or different, also did you try other encoder.. ??

[subferno]

I plugged in my original DVD to have it re-encoded, and sure enough it works just fine.

I guess I am still new to DVDRB to realize that I shouldnt do any preprocessing before.

Thanks all.

[jdobbs]

Are you sure you're not running out of disc space?

[subferno]

Yes, I am sure. Its a 200 gig harddrive and I only used 50 so far.

[Rockas]

Well it would be nice if you give us the exact error message...
but here's another question... are you sure you ripped the DVD do your hard disk first? if you did... are you sure you selected the ripped folder as source on Rebuilder? (actually it's two questions, but whos counting anyway :D)

I'm asking you this 'cause by mistake you may be accessing your DVD directly... sometimes the DVD readers just overheat (caused by continuous access plus a bad PC box plus bad fan system, etc) and then you'll get reading errors.

[subferno]

Heres the exact step that I did when backing up my DVD:

[Preprocessing]
1) Started AnyDVD
2) Started CloneDVD and did a straight rip to the harddrive
3) Loaded the files into DVDRemake Pro and removed promo stuff and extras
4) Started DVDRB and started re-encoding

Of course, if I dont do any pre-processing then it will work just fine.

I will rip, pre-process, and re-encode the DVD again tomorrow to get the exact error message.

I have backed up about 2 other movies and not a single problem occurred even with pre-processing done. I am guessing that something is wrong with this particular DVD then.

[Voodoochild]

I guess I am still new to DVDRB to realize that I shouldnt do any preprocessing before.
Thanks all.

You can do preprocessing , I do it all the time. I turn menu to still images to save space for the main moovie, I remove extras if i need with vobblanker, Even cut end credits some time, also i'm editting in pcgedit to go directly to main moovie with the subs i want... dvd-rb has no problems what so ever, perfect outcome.

[jdobbs]

The point I make in my comments on this subject isn't that you can't preprocess... it's that I can't support bug reports on a preprocessed source. The reason is that the packages have become very powerful, and you can do just about anything -- and as a result, many of the things that might be done can render the output non-compliant or even turn it into garbage.

The bottom line is that if a source is preprocessed, I don't trust it, and I can't debug someone elses code (most of the time I don't have access to it). If let myself get wrapped up chasing phantoms down rabbit holes I'd never be doing anything else -- a review of problem reports in this forum will show you how often problems on preprocessed sources simply "go away" when the original rip is used.

[jptheripper]

preprocessing is one thing. DvdRemake i would not consider a preprocessor, it is a reauthor'er, and can easily break a disk if not used correctly.

try running dvdrb without remake and use dvdrb to blank the stuff (it can do it)

[subferno]

Sorry to disappoint you guys but I couldnt recreate my problem with my preprocessed DVD.

Today, I ripped the DVD again and used DVDRemake to edit out all the crap, just I did the first time. DVDRB encoded the DVD with no errors. My initial rip must have been bad or something and so DVDRB didnt like it.

[jdobbs]

Sometimes it happens that way. Programmers call it FM. The "M" is for magic... I'll let you guess what the "F" stands for...