Fix for CCE crashes

[gdenehy]

Hi,
I spent DAYS trying to get CCE to stop crashing.
In the end, I UNDERclocked my PC, and it is perfect (not much slower either)

I have a 2600 AMD, running at 166Mhz, and changed it to 133Mhz and it works fine.

Yay!

[Nick]

Really you should not need to do this. Your PC should be perfectly stable at the speed it is designed to run.

If you bought this PC, take it back to the shop. If you built it, I would look CPU and system temperatures - your mainboard will have most likely come with Windows utils on disc, otherwise check in BIOS on restart. If these temps are too high, review your cooling solutions. If it does not appear to be a thermal issue, check out the sticky in the PC Hardware forum for some memory testing software.

CCE and BeSweet will both run your processor flat out but, plain and simple, this should not make your PC fall over.

[jshumate]

I agree with you Nick, but from personal experience, CCE is not a well behaved application for AMD systems. I get weird problems all the time from my 2 AMD systems when running CCE, and yes, I do know about the "audio encoding bug" in CCE 2.50.

I have no choice - I absolutely have to run CCE in Realtime mode on my PCs or it will freeze my PCs every single time. I can't run DVDRebuilder or DoItFast4U at all because even if I get CCE into Realtime mode, it locks my PC up every time. I don't know what it is, but there is something about CCE where it behaves oddly under AMD CPUs. I'm betting you have an Intel CPU because Intel CPU owners are often highly skeptical when those of us with AMD systems talk about problems with CCE because they don't have those problems on Intel boxes. I love AMD, but it does get old that CCE misbehaves so much on those boxes. And by the way, my main encoding PC is NOT connected to any network at all and I don't do anything on the box while it is encoding and it still freezes.

[Nick]

Incidentally in my 10 years of PC ownership, I've never owned a machine with anything other than an AMD CPU, although I've built a few Intel rigs for buddies.

I started back in '96 with 5x86, upped to a K6-2 350Mhz in 1998 and then a Duron 700 in late 2000. I've subsequently had an Athlon XP 1600+ and currently a 2500+ O/C to 3200+.

From the Duron onwards I've successfully run CCE on these without hitch. On the Duron rig I had to turn off all my power management features but otherwise everything was fine. I've really never seen the big problem myself. Maybe I've just been really lucky, I don't know. I wonder if it has been my choice of chipsets that has served me well over the years, or perhaps even choice of drivers.

Whatever my secret, I've never suffered any problems :confused:

[ChickenMan]

Your problem has nothing to do with AMD processors. I'm like Nick and have had AMD's in my personal PC for over 10 years and have not had any problems with CCE. I have found the culprit to be Memory (not on my system but on friends, even on Intel systems) or poor chipset drivers. CCE demands absolute stable memory or it will fold everytime, remember it runs both CPU and memory at 100% for the hours it takes to encode. Spend the extra $'s as it works in the long run without the hastles. I currently have an AMD64 X2 4400 running 1x1gb Corsair Twinex CL2 memory sticks and all running in Dual memory mode on an ASUS A8N-SLI m/b (uses nForce4-sli chipset). Its as stable as a rock :)

[ux-3]

I too can confirm that AMD CPUs can run CCE 2.5 and 2.67 without any problems. Whenever there were problems in the past, they were memory related. Changing the memory (or it's bios settings) would resolve the problem. Memtest86 sometimes spots the problem too, you can also give prime95 a chance. But it has nothing directly to do with AMD cpus, I have been using 5 or 6 successfully in different boards