Still using ffdshow-20051129?

[fxer80]

I have been using ffdshow-20051129, well, since it was released :) There are a couple hundred different builds by different people available for download, just curious if most people are sticking by this final build available at:

http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+ffdshow

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Definitely not! Have a look here:
http://bittekeinspam.googlepages.com/

Updates are available almost every dat at the moment...

[futurex]

curious as to why no more milan cutka builds?

[LoRd_MuldeR]

curious as to why no more milan cutka builds?

Well, he updates the sources on the SVN, so everybody can make his own builds. I think it's just to much work for Milan to make one "100% perfectly working" *official* build. If you don't like to build ffdshow yourself, there are a lot of builds provided by Celtic Druid, Videomixer9 and many others.

The only problem I see is that a lot of users might pick the outdated build form ffdshow homepage instead of getting an up-to-date one. Maybe Milan should remove his "daily" builds and link to some locations where new builds can be found...

[AVIL]

@LoRd_MuldeR

I'm a bit lost with all builds available. Today I have tried four version to found one that works on my system (last of videomixer9 i.e. don't install). Three refused to install (it can't register ax file). The other installs but, after installing it complaints about C++ runtime. So, Milan's builds (never had failed me in all system I've installed it) are a must for me.

[videomixer9]

damn people will never read the requirement of VC8 libs ... I'm amazed how blind some people are or how they don't want to read anything if it's not addressed to them personally. A must for some people is to read and install stuff that is required. Milan didn't use any of those things back then but seeing more MSVC 2005 solution files in the svn I guess he will require them with new builds too by himself too.

And those libs are a one time thing so I refuse to pack them into the installer cause some people refuse to learn how to use anything, besides the libs blowing up the downloads to stupidly large size.

[signatory]

I have been using ffdshow-20051129, well, since it was released :) There are a couple hundred different builds by different people available for download, just curious if most people are sticking by this final build available at:

http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+ffdshow

Yes I use that one too. I have tried other builds almost weekly, those that will work on my system. One way or the other they disappoint and I don't feel very confident about them when there's constantly bugs reported the day after a release. I also protest the fact that instruction and lib requirements is not mentioned in file names.

[videomixer9]

I'll remember to add a requirement for brain to my next builds. And maybe also also add again that SVN builds aren't to be considered stable.

Use whatever you want, but don't spread around stupidities please.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

damn people will never read the requirement of VC8 libs ... I'm amazed how blind some people are or how they don't want to read anything if it's not addressed to them personally. A must for some people is to read and install stuff that is required. Milan didn't use any of those things back then but seeing more MSVC 2005 solution files in the svn I guess he will require them with new builds too by himself too.

Maybe make a "full package" installer that has vcredist_x86.exe included?

[celtic_druid]

Not need. I did a MSVC8 build and included only MSVCR8.dll and the matching manifest. Added maybe 0.4 MB's to the installer.

ffdshow.ax.manifiest isn't required since MSVC8 embeds one. So replace one external manifest for another, making it just an extra dll.

[bill_baroud]

Three refused to install (it can't register ax file).
if you used ffdshow before installing a new one, you've to reboot to de-load the .ax file.
(if anybody know how to force windows to do that without rebooting...)

[videomixer9]

you don't need to reboot, e.g. if you used preview generation in explorer it will have the ax file loaded though, just kill explorer.exe and restart it. Also other apps may use it in background. Windows doesn't keep the .ax file loaded. However that probably wasn't the problem, as it will complain about the .ax file being used if that was the case and don't report the .ax file to be unable to register.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

a good way to find out which process is locking a specific DLL is listdlls from www.sysinternals.com :cool:

Command: listdlls -d ffdshow.ax

[slavickas]

best way to find out which process is locking a specific DLL is listdlls from www.sysinternals.com :cool:


Command: listdlls -d ffdshow.ax
nope http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ is the best ;)

[LoRd_MuldeR]

nope http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ is the best ;)

Let's think about rule #12, no discussion on what's the best :D

[Dethis]

Is there any speed increase when decoding AVC material between ffdshow-20051129 and recent compilations.

I am interested for sse2 (no HT) versions (P4 2.4)

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Is there any speed increase when decoding AVC material between ffdshow-20051129 and recent compilations.

New builds use up-to-date version of libavcodec, so there should be some improvements on AVC decoding. Futhermore I don't know why anybody should use an old and outdated build, when there are up-to-date and improved ones available...