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r0lZ
22nd April 2006, 09:46
PgcEdit v7.X discussion thread

Links to new versions within this thread:

PgcEdit 7.4 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=876798#post876798)
PgcEdit 7.3 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=845278#post845278)
PgcEdit 7.2 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=840727#post840727)
PgcEdit 7.1.1 and 7.1.2 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=835776#post835776)
PgcEdit 7.1 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=835732#post835732) (obsolete, due to a bug in Kill Playback!)


Links to old discussion threads:


PgcEdit 0.6.1 to 0.6.3 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=100890)
PgcEdit 0.6.0 and 0.6.1 beta (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96972)
Burning DL Media with PgcEdit (PgcEdit 0.6.0 beta) (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95250)
PgcEdit 0.5 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=90960)
PgcEdit 0.5.1 beta (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91521)
PgcEdit 0.5.0 beta (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89918)
PgcEdit 0.4 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85329)
PgcEdit 0.3 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79853)
PgcEdit 0.2 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78618)
PgcEdit 0.1 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77980)


PgcEdit v8.0 is now released. See the new PgcEdit v8 thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121146).

r0lZ
22nd April 2006, 09:48
PgcEdit v7.0 released!

As requested by many users (thanks, guys!) I have finally removed the useless leading "0." in the version number. The enormous gap between the latest official version 0.6.3.1 and this v7.0 doesn't mean that it's a particularly major upgrade, or that all bug are fixed.

Release notes:

A. Added a preview checkbox in the upper left corner of the main window. When ticked, selecting a PGC manually starts the preview automatically.
A. Menu Editor: New function "Edit -> Copy button position only" to copy the current button position. Paste it with "Paste Current Button".
A. Menu Editor: New functions "Button -> Increase / Decrease Button Number" to move the current button in the list of buttons.
A. New function Info -> Jumps from VMG to Current VTS to find out the global references to the current VTS. (This function doesn't show the references from the current VTS to itself.) Useful to verify if the last VTS is still referenced and to reroute the references before removing it.
A. Preview: In trace mode, it is now possible to blank the current cell from the preview window. In addition, when all cells of the current PGC are blanked, the user is prompted to kill the playback of the PGC.
A. Kill Playback: When killing the playback of a Title PGC, the user has now the option to blank all cells of the PGC, to easily strip the original cells later with FixVTS or VobBlanker. This function is similar to the option to remove the cells of a menu PGC and convert it to a dummy.
A. Added the menu Options -> Functions -> Kill PGC Playback -> Always remove or blank the PGC cells, to eliminate the dialog asking if the cells must be removed (for a Menu PGC) or blanked (for a Title PGC.)
A. PGC Editor: Added a function to delete all multi-angles cells, keeping only one angle. The Angle flags and First ILVU end value on the remaining cells are removed as well. It is then possible to strip the unused ILV cells from the VOB files with VobBlanker. It is necessary to remove all angles from the DVD or the domain that will be processed with VobBlanker, and to enable the "Fix Always VOB SYNCI/SRI Pointers in Titles" option!
The same function can be used to remove the ILV flags and First ILVU End value in interleaved (mono-angle) PGCs.
A. PGC Editor -> Remove Cells: Added an option to keep the program numbers in sync with the original cells. However, when this option is enabled, it is possible that several PGs are pointing to the same cell. A warning is issued in this case, since this situation might be illegal.
A. Added the menu Tools -> FixVTS, to launch FixVTS with the first VOB of the current domain already loaded. Useful to strip the blanked cells from the VOBs after a cells blanking from the preview.
A. Domain Streams Attributes: It is now possible to remove the audio and subpic streams selectively in this dialog. The streams assignments in the PGCs of the current domain are also deleted automatically. The subsequent streams are automatically shifted if necessary. The SetSTN commands are NOT modified! (Note that this dialogue is now read-only when it is called from the PGC Editor.)
A. Changed the maximum number of chanels to 8 in the Audio parameters of the Domain Streams Attributes dialog, to take the new formats into account.
E. Calls Cross Reference and Go To Calling Command: A Root menu (that is normally callable with the remote) is now considered as unreferenced if all titles of the same VTS are unreferenced, or if all titles have the PUO to prohibit calling this menu. For the Subpic, Audio, Angle and PTT menus, all non-dummy PGCs of the same titleset are checked, including the menus. For the Title Menu, all non-dummy PGCs of the whole DVD are checked.
E. Burn DVD: Support for the new /TESTMODE option of ImgBurn 1.2.0.0 (for DVD-R only!)
E. Burn DVD: Added a button in the burn setup dialog to use the faster version of mkisofs.exe, now provided with PgcEdit (under Windows only.)
E. Burn DVD: Added a check to ensure that mkisofs.exe is properly configured in the Burn Setup dialog. Some guys used ImgTool.exe instead!
E. Burn DVD: Added an option to save automatically the Graph Data file for DVDInfoPro. The file is saved with the same name as the source ISO file, but with the .IBG extension. Requires ImgBurn 1.3 or more.
E. Burn DVD: Added new burn speeds in the speed selector dropdown menu.
E. Burn DL DVD: When a suitable cell cannot be found for the layer break, PgcEdit displays now in which cell the layer break should be. You can therefore easily use VobBlanker to split that cell.
E. Remap Title Numbers: Now, this function searches for SPRM(4:Title Number in Volume) in the VM commands of the DVD. If SPRM 4 is used, a warning is displayed, as it is dangerous to remap the title numbers in this case.
E. Menu Viewer/Edit Command button: In expert mode, the "Modify the command for the 2 (or 3) groups?" prompt is not displayed anymore, except when the original commands are not identical in all groups.
E. Read DVD: Added a check for illegal entries in VMG_TT_SRPT table (Title assigned to a non existing PGC or 2 Titles assigned to the same PGC.) If the bad Title is the last one in the table, it is optionally removed, but the user must still fix the VM commands, if needed.
E. When loading a new DVD, the Fix number of streams in VMGM/VTSI_MAT tables function do not prompt the user any more to fix the Menu domains with one subpic stream defined but never used by the menu PGCs, because it's legal and frequent on commercial DVDs, and this warning confused some users. However, this check is still made when the Fix number of streams is called from the "DVD" menu, and when opening the Domain Streams Attributes GUI.
E. When loading the DVD, the End Byte pointers of the tables are now verified whenever possible to avoid stupid crashes with badly authored DVDs.
E. PGC Editor: When editing a menu PGC, only one audio and one subpic stream is now displayed, since more streams in the menu domain is illegal.
F. PGC Editor - Create New Cell: Disabling the option to create the backup of the VOB file did not work.
F. The "New 'Play All' PGC" function was broken. Also, there is now a check to warn the user if the number of programs in the new PGC is greater than 127 or the number of chapters greater than 99.
F. The target of some Jump_VTS_TT and Jump_VTS_PTT was not found by the find target routine. This caused some bugs in the Go to calling command, Calls cross references, Find jumps to nowhere, Jump to target and Highlight target functions.
F. Trace: When the Title Menu button is pressed during playback of a VTSM menu PGC, the Title menu is now called. Previously, a Resume to Title was made. The correct behaviour in this case is uncertain, because the specs are not clear on this subject, but this behaviour seems logical and many players (though not all!) are doing this. A resume is still issued when the Title menu is pressed during playback of a VMGM menu PGC.
F. Trace: Small bug fixed: when a cell command was reached, it was necessary to execute it twice, and the command was logged twice as well. However, the cell command was simulated only once.
F. Small bug in the Jump To PGC Upon DVD Insert function, introduced in 0.6.3 fixed: the resume cell of the CallSS command inserted in the beginning of the pre-commands of the resume title was wrong.
F. Fixed a bug in the Info -> Jumps from VMG to Current VTS function. The Prev/Next/GoUpPGCN links of the current VTS were wrongly displayed.
F. Burn DL DVD: When burning a DL DVD saved by DVD Remake v3.4 (without first resaving it with PgcEdit), the computation of the layer break position was wrong. To fix this problem, the DVD (including single-layer DVDs) are saved automatically when the burn function is started.
W. Added several workarounds for a (possible) bug in TitleWriter: TitleWriter assigns several Title numbers to the same PGC. Now, PgcEdit should support this strange (if not illegal) way to use the VMG_TT_SRPT table.
W. Under Windows XP, the Windows command TSKill.exe is now used instead of PSKill.exe (which caused false positive warnings of some picky anti-virus programs). However, PSKill is still used when TSKill is not found. (The kill executable is used only by the Burn DVD function to abort the creation of the ISO image when the user clicks on the Cancel button.)


Have fun!

Humpty Dumpty
22nd April 2006, 10:46
Wow!

Thank you, rOlZ!

CoNS
22nd April 2006, 11:26
Thanks a lot, r0lZ...

version 7.0 ... or 0.7 ?!? :D

EDIT: Ah, I saw the text on the PgcEdit homepage: "I am tired of this leading 0. in the version number. So, v0.6.3.1 is followed directly by v7.0!)" and in the post above! Normally you would move to v1.0 in this case, no? Thanks again for the new version, anyway!!

EDIT 2: I found a HUGE bug in the new version. It says "April 21, 2005" everywhere. :D

r0lZ
22nd April 2006, 12:26
Oops! Not sure it is needed to change that, but I will do it anyway. Thanks.

[EDIT: OK, the "huge bug" is fixed. I have uploaded a new version dated April 22, 2006. The version number is still 7.0.]

dirio49
22nd April 2006, 17:17
thanks at ton. r0lZ
:thanks: :thanks:

Adub
22nd April 2006, 20:18
YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH BABY!!!!!! Cool man! great program, I am actually beginning to comprehend DVDs in all there complexity.
Thanks dude! You kick ass, r0lZ!

r0lZ
22nd April 2006, 21:32
:) Thanks for your enthousiasm, Merlin7777 aka "Beginning to Understand"! BTW, have you tried the trace mode? It's useful to understand how the navigation works.

And thanks also to you, Humpty Dumpty, CoNS and dirio49! :thanks:

Adub
22nd April 2006, 22:25
You know, I haven't really tried the trace mode. I don't understand how it works. Hahahahah!!!!!

Seriously, I will look into it. I am sure there is a description or guide to it around here some where. When I turn it on, things blink and windows open. Yay!
Huh, I will try out the trace mode and follow that link about DVD Glossary terms on you website. Thanks for you work man! You rule!

blutach
23rd April 2006, 07:52
More brilliancy from you r0lZ. Many many many thanks!!!

Regards

Guddi
23rd April 2006, 08:53
Thanks for the great work! This prog is a true lifesaver...

r0lZ
23rd April 2006, 08:53
You know, I haven't really tried the trace mode. I don't understand how it works. Hahahahah!!!!!
Go to trace mode and click the Run button. That's all. Simple, no?
Oh, yes, there are some things to learn if you want to become a power user, but that's not requested by the PgcEdit license agreement! Hahahahah!!!!!

jsoto
23rd April 2006, 15:03
A new toy!. Thanks, r0lZ.

jsoto

laserfan
23rd April 2006, 15:41
r0lZ your changelog was so extensive (and intimidating) that I hesitated to try the new version. But it is very comfortable and worked perfectly with my usual workflow (I like to "Jump to PGC" and "Kill Playback" of stuff on my backups).

Anyway it continues to work great so :thanks:

AlienX69
23rd April 2006, 15:51
First, PgcEdit RULES !!!!! Donated yesterday, hope everyone else does the same to keep this GREAT tool supported !!!

Now the dumb Alien has a question ?
I saw the following in the 7.0 Ver History
==============================================
A. Preview: In trace mode, it is now possible to blank the current cell from the preview window. In addition, when all cells of the current PGC are blanked, the user is prompted to kill the playback of the PGC.
==============================================
I have always wanted to Blank single cells in a Title set without blanking ALL the cells and without having to run VOBB afterwards. Like in the case where the FBI cell resides in the same VTS as the Main movie (see attach)

The preview window still looks the same, looks like no change, my version is v2.3 (see attached). I deleted the PgcEdit \bin folder and let it recreate from the PgcEdit v7.0 EXE. Still the same .....

Please walk the dumb Alien through this as I would really like to learn how to blank single cells in a VTS.

THX
AX

r0lZ
23rd April 2006, 16:50
You have to do it in Trace mode. For technical reasons, I cannot add the blank cell feature in the preview when it is not running in trace mode.
Of course, you can also remove the cell, or blank it from the PGC Editor. (To blank it, use the VOB/Cell ID button, and select the "Create a new blank VOB cell" option.)
Of course, to remove the old, unreferenced cell from the VOB files, you have to process the domain with VobBlanker or FixVTS.

Thanks for your donation!

AlienX69
23rd April 2006, 17:22
Well the dumb Alien still is lost ...I use trace 90% of the time ... "->>Next PB" for the first run through .... Kill or Blank as reqd, then I mark the movie with Ctrl+Shift+T to do a First Play .. Then I do a second run with "->>>Run", then "Jump to PGC upon DVD insert"

During all of the above Trace steps I still did not see in the preview window where I could blank a cell ? ? ? Am I suppose to see a NEW button on the Preview window ? Sorry for being so DUMB !!!!

EDIT: I use the ~ to Open/Start the Preview Window
EDIT2: I forgot to mention, yesterday when I DL the .zip version, it was ver 0.6.3 inside ?

PS: I do understand the second method you mentioned

AX

Again, I can't say thanks enough for this GREAT tool ... I would be lost without it !!!!!

r0lZ
23rd April 2006, 18:05
Well, if you are still using v0.6.3, you will not have the blank cell checkbox in the preview. Download v7 again, and retry.

Also, you must use the preview from the trace, not with the ~ key. Enable the automatic preview mode with the play checkbox to the right of the trace menus, and run the trace.
In trace mode, each cell is played one at a time. In the preview window, you can enable the "Blank this cell" checkbox to blank the current cell.

AlienX69
23rd April 2006, 18:33
I am using 7, what I meant in the previous post is I first DL'd the .zip, when I opened/installed ... it was still version 0.6.3, I then DL'd the .exe one and then I got ver 7.0 (yesterday) .....

But now that you clarified that I was checking the WRONG check box I now see the LIGHT !!!!!!!

THX ... rOlZ .... you RULE !!!!! Keep up the GREAT work !!!

Attached a .jpg for others to view if they need to know how to use this NEW feature (check box in the bottom right)

AX

EDIT: All this time I've been using ~ ..... Dumb Alien

tomlomeo
24th April 2006, 00:49
Dear r01Z....i just installed your new version of PgcEdit v 7.0..I've been following a guide on how to make a simple menu for, let's say 2 or 3 movies that were reauthored with Dvd Shrink..... can you recommend a simple guide to accomplish just this issue.....since i can to different chapters and subtitles with my remote control....thank you

r0lZ
24th April 2006, 08:16
I don't know if a guide exists for this specific purpose.

But try the DVDShrink plugin for PgcEdit. It has a function to enable the Title Menu button to skip to the next title. It's very easy.

Also, have a look at TitleWriter. It can add menus to a DVD reauthored by Shrink.

blutach
24th April 2006, 09:39
AX

You need to setup your trace preview. Tick the little box so the preview comes on at every cell played back. Also ensure under Setup --> Preview Options when the trace window is showing that "Close preview automaically at the end of the cell playback" is unchecked. This will ensure that the cell doesn't vanish on you and you have time to decide whetehr to mark it for blanking or not.

When you have finished, simply process the whole DVD in FixVTS (www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS) or VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm).

Regards

AlienX69
24th April 2006, 16:49
Hi Les,

Yes, I did do that per r0lZ instruction (see PGC_Window.jpg attachment in previous post, the one in the bottom right, yes ?) .... the only thing I notice is that when I do this (and please excuse as I'm not in front of my home screen, doing from memory) is that each cell wants to play, slightly annoying in the movie (as it wants to play each cell/chapter), what's the best way to skip though ?

Also, I can't right click on the PGC window to either "Kill PGC Playback(Ctrl+K)" or "Blank out all VTST in Titleset(Ctrl+Delete)". Not sure if I got the Hot Keys right but now that I write this I did not try the Hot Keys while the preview window was open ..... please excuse for any memory leaks above ... LOL !!!

AX

r0lZ
24th April 2006, 19:32
That's right. The problem is that the preview is a totally independent app, and I cannot have full control on it. The preview is normally launched in background, and therefore I cannot know what the user do with it, but in trace mode, it is launched synchronously, so I can test the user actions when it is closed.

I agree that playing all cells in sequence is somewhat boring, but it's currently the only way to synchronize the trace with the preview. Sorry for this limitation.

AlienX69
24th April 2006, 19:44
NP, I can work around it ..... PgcEdit stills ROCKs my WORLD !!!

Keep it running, and I will KEEP DONATING !!!!!

Have a GREAT DAY (Evening) ....

AX

foobaz
25th April 2006, 04:30
PgcEdit v7.0 released!

The enormous gap between the latest official version 0.6.3.1 and this v7.0 doesn't mean that it's a particularly major upgrade
Whoa! If this isn't a major upgrade, I'd love to see what you consider a major upgrade! Thanks so much for this wonderful gift. And your extreme humility. That is something so rare these days.

blutach
25th April 2006, 05:17
@AX

Can't see the attachment yet - it's still pending appro by mpucoder. Not to worry though.

I find when I am tracing the main title, that I uncheck the little preview box to make things go quicker. It's only on those pesky extras and warnings that I wanna see how things go. Hope that helps you speed things up a bit.

Regards

frank
25th April 2006, 20:46
I have created a hearing book title with DVD-lab.
Stills muxed with MPEG audio track.

Audio: MPEG-1, 48 kHz, 64 kbit/s, mono (1ch)
Video: PAL 720x576 stills

Then I loaded it into PgcEdit.
VTS Title works fine but I cannot change the stream attributes at all.
After pressing Current domain stream attributes all buttons of Audio 0 are greyed out! :confused:
There is a problem with mpeg audio when it is the only one track.

My workaround was IfoEdit.

r0lZ
25th April 2006, 21:50
You have to use Domain Streams Attributes from the main window, not from the PGC Editor. Now, in the PGC Editor, the DSA editor is read-only. I had to change that because it's incompatible with the new options to delete the streams.

President
26th April 2006, 07:14
WOW!!! Great thnx, r0lZ!!! PGC Edit forever!!! Excellent app. Many, many thank's!

frank
26th April 2006, 08:44
You have to use Domain Streams Attributes from the main window, not from the PGC Editor. :thanks:

blutach
26th April 2006, 12:54
Blame me, frank, for this. I am sorry. This was in response to a request to easily remove deleted streams in multi-PGC VTSs, where you had to go through the disabling process over and over again for each PGC before DSA would tell you they are no longer needed.

Regards

jm1647
29th April 2006, 02:06
@r0lZ - just to make sure - do you accept credit card donations thru PayPal. I'm new to using PayPAl and did (EDIT - not) see what type you accept.

Edit2 - I hit the wrong button and it went from by bank

r0lZ
29th April 2006, 02:19
Yes, credit cards are accepted by PayPal. It's even the preferred method! (But you have to live in a country supported by PayPal.)

Thanks in advance for your donation!

jm1647
29th April 2006, 02:35
Yes, credit cards are accepted by PayPal. It's even the preferred method! (But you have to live in a country supported by PayPal.)

Thanks in advance for your donation!

It's on it's way......THANKS again for the great program

setarip_old
30th April 2006, 05:55
@AlienX69

Check out these links:

http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=155&postid=859651

and

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=443646&tstart=0

hardkid
2nd May 2006, 19:31
I dunno why people do this: namely, split movies into two or more titles. But as a result, a have a single layer DVD which is a backup of a dual layer DVD which contained a movie split into two titles. I did not make a backup, so I have no idea how it happened that all layer breaks are still present on the resulting single layer DVD. I even think that there are even more layer breaks than needed. Please look at the attached pix. Pic one shows PgcEdit's first window, with all the titles.
When I open title one (see Pic 2), I see that there are two layer breaks - the first box and the last box are checked. Title 2 (plese see Pic 3) also has a layer break at the very beginning. When I watch this movie (single layer DVD) I see two pauses/freezes - about 2 seconds long each - it's those layer breaks at the end of title one and at the beginning of title 2. What do I do to make my movie play seamless? Is there a utility/function which corrects such problems automatically? If not, what should I do manually in PGCEdit?

bigotti5
2nd May 2006, 20:59
You cant see a layer break - only a NSM (non_seamless) flag.
This flag indicates how cells/vobs are logically linked together.
The first cell of a PGC is allways flagged as non_seamless.

You should do following

Open Pgcedit
Left pane doubleclick VTST1 TTN1
in Pgceditor in bottom line click "create new cell" - "pick an existing Vob/Cell ID" - in the slider Vob ID choose "2" and in slider Cell ID choose "1" - Create Cell
Repeat these steps till Vob/Cell ID 2/14
Remove the NSM flags (layerbreaks) manually by clicking it.
The Vob joint from VCID 1/12 to 2/1 is very likely not seamless muxed, so removing can cause your player to freeze stop or anything.
Test it on a DVD-RW, if your player has troubles just leave the NSM flag set.

All other NSM flags (except the first) can be removed.

Note: you will have to fit the commands in your menus too.

blutach
3rd May 2006, 10:06
In order for the chapter menu to work correctly, keep TTN2. But change the post command in TTN1 to exactly be same as TTN2's post commands (otherwise after playing the now complete movie (under bigotti5's excellent method), it'll play the 2nd half again!).

Regards

hardkid
4th May 2006, 09:59
Thank you bigotti5 and blutach! Your advices worked!

jm1647
5th May 2006, 04:50
r0lZ - I just used the trace/preview/blank pgc thing todayfor the first time. I usually use the blank all titles but my Good Night and Good Luck DVD I wanted to back up had some stuff that took up a bunch of MB that I wanted to get rid of and didn't want. All I can say is Wwwwwwoooooooowwwww and THANKS!!!

Sir Didymus
5th May 2006, 10:56
As it was discussed something about 1 year ago (it was about the title Spiderman...), the editing of menues containing multiple sets of buttons is unsupported by PgcEdit.

I fully agree this type of feature, enabling dynamic highlights in the selected buttons, is very rare, and the real benefits for the majority of users may not justify the high (I think...) implementation work which is required to give complete support for that. So forgive me for raising the topic again...

Anyway, r0lZ, maybe you could consider at least the possibility to safely export and import the whole menues into this type of scenario ?

Cheers,
SD

r0lZ
5th May 2006, 11:46
Well, the problem is that I have only one set of variables per cell. To implement dynamic menus, I should have one set of variables per button sets. And it's a pain to edit multiple sets manually, without some functions to repeat the same edit over all sets at once. These modifs would require a major rewrite of the button editor (and the viewer too.)

Also, why do you need an import/export functions for dynamic menus? If it's to recreate the buttons after a reencoding of the video, I'm affraid it will not work. I must export the button information indexed by the LBA of the nav pack. If the video is reencoded, the nav packs will not be at the same place any more, and the import function will fail.

Anyway, MenuEdit (by Dimad) is able to edit the dynamic menu buttons, but in group 1 only with the free version, and it has no import/export function.

Sir Didymus
5th May 2006, 12:35
I see!

Thanks for the precise and detailed answer!
I am always fully happy with PgcEdit.

OK, forget my post, and have a nice w/e...

Cheers,
SD

blutach
7th May 2006, 09:32
Anybody getting problems when blanking titlesets - PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) is inserting cell commands 121 and messing up the cell flags?

Regards

r0lZ
7th May 2006, 11:01
I remember I saw this problem once. Do you have a way to reproduce it?

AlienX69
7th May 2006, 13:39
@AX
I find when I am tracing the main title, that I uncheck the little preview box to make things go quicker. It's only on those pesky extras and warnings that I wanna see how things go. Hope that helps you speed things up a bit.
Regards

Yep, that's what I meant by NP above, what I have been doing is just leaving it UNchecked (old habits hard to break "`") until I get to a known problem area (from experience), I then check the box ON ....Trace .... Blank cell ... etc ..... I am gonna try to break that ole keyboard habit .... THX Les

@AlienX69
Check out these links:
http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=155&postid=859651
and
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=443646&tstart=0


Now we know where those .lay and .layout file come from ... THX setarip_les

AX

AlienX69
7th May 2006, 13:55
All I can say is Wwwwwwoooooooowwwww and THANKS!!!

!!!! AGREE !!!! .... it's in my TOP 5 list ..... (ps: thx for donating jm)

AX

blutach
8th May 2006, 08:40
I remember I saw this problem once. Do you have a way to reproduce it?Will email you with some IFOs. It is very reproduceable on multicelled PGCs, when you blank the VTS AND "kill playback when it's safe" is selected. A cell flag type of 103 occurs with cell command number of 121.

It does not happen if you select don't kill playback.

Tends to happen more on ARccOS DVDs.

Regards

blutach
8th May 2006, 08:51
Here's the sitch:

Structure:
Precommands
Cell plays
Cell command = Set gprm(9)= 1; Link Tail PGC
Post commands

Action taken
Blank all VTST titles

Result
Precommands
Post commands transferred to precommands but NOT the set gprm(9)=1

I guess the routine stops the cell from playing, but then there is a problem. The DVD expects gprm(9) to contain 1 and it doesn't. Navigation is incorrect from this point on.

Regards