Tevion DVD 8000 DVD-Player with VGA und HDMI [Edited]

[spectra]

Does anybody have infos (chipset) for this player ? It's soon (April 27th) available at Aldi Germany > Productpage (http://www.aldi-sued.de/product_02/product_172.html).

Here is a short review in german at > golem.de (http://golem.de/0604/44821.html) , but not too detailed.

[SeeMoreDigital]

I will keep a look out for this player in the UK...

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4945/tevion6km.jpg

I need a std-def player with HDMI and Nero Digital certification....

Needless to say I will take it apart ;)


Cheers

[spectra]

found some more info in the german dvdboard.de forum (http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showthread.php?t=98270):

Seems to be a Zoran ZV 778 with upscaler. they ordered a previewing model, so there will be a review soon.

[SeeMoreDigital]

My initial thoughts were it would be a Zoran chip-set...

I was kinda hoping it would have been the new Vaddis 888 though. As it's rumoured to support 3-warp-point GMC ;)


Cheers

[spectra]

My initial thoughts were it would be a Zoran chip-set...

I was kinda hoping it would have been the new Vaddis 888 though. As it's rumoured to support 3-warp-point GMC ;)


Cheers

oh it finally seems to be a 888 !!
Check the forum, they phoned with the distributor and found out it is the Zoran Vaddis 888 (36888). No reviewsample so far sadly but they hope to get it this week.

[SeeMoreDigital]

That's far more interesting...

On paper the 888 chip-set looks to be very strong. Offering (among other things) the following: -DVD Multimedia Processor
Vaddis 888 is an advanced DVD multimedia processor with an integrated state-of-the-art 8 channel Class D modulator which enables a new generation of DVD players featuring universal audio (DVD-A and SACD2.0).

The Vaddis 8 processor enables HDTV connectivity via HDMI and analog component HD-video with six 14-bit 165Mhz video DACs.

It also offers SD-to-HD upconversion enabling HD content from standard DVD discs. The HD-JPEG feature enables display of high definition JPEG images.Not bad eh?


Cheers

[CruNcher]

Hey and look it's "XviD home" certified ;) buahahaha
oh i love those Asians :P

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hey and look it's "XviD home" certified ;) buahahaha
oh i love those Asians :PBlimey, what an achievement.... In that case I've definitely got to get one :D

[Soulhunter]

Heh, not even knew XviD has a certification program... ;D


Bye

[spectra]

any suggestion which files i should test if i buy it tomorrow ?

links are welcome !

[SeeMoreDigital]

any suggestion which files i should test if i buy it tomorrow ?

links are welcome !In that case, please try these 3-warp-point GMC samples (http://www.one.seemoredigital.net/MPEG-4_Player_Test_Files/3-Warp-Point_GMC_Samples_in_AVI.7z).



Please note: they have not been encoded to look good, they don't contain audio and they've been muxed into the MP4 container with 16:9 DAR signalling ;)


Cheers

[spectra]

In that case, please try these 3-warp-point GMC samples (http://www.one.seemoredigital.net/MPEG-4_Player_Test_Files/3-Warp-Point_GMC_Samples.7z).


so the xvid is playing fine, the nero file is playing but some pixel hang till next keyframe (at least i suppose it's got to do with the next keyframe :) )

Bad thing is that external mp4 subtitles like .srt are displayed nearly in the middle of the picture and not at the bottom, but it let's you choose which one to use with the file.

.ogm video files not recognised (i suppose the extension ogm is ignored).

For further questions please tell me what i should test. i burned the divxtest.com cd v2, so just tell me which file of this collection to test.

[SeeMoreDigital]

so the xvid is playing fine, the nero file is playing but some pixel hang till next keyframe (at least i suppose it's got to do with the next keyframe :) ) Jeez... that's amazing!

Thanks for testing the files... I wonder why the Nero sample did not work as well as the XviD sample?


Cheers

[spectra]

well i had some (well two so far) xvid-movie files that show the same behaviour. perhaps i should check the files in the "H. Compatibility : Supported video codecs (all files supplied)" section of: http://www.divxtest.com/form/divxtest2_add.php?lang=eng

there are also some interesting notes on upscaling quality and abilities in the other forum posted above. but sadly i do not have any hd-device now.

[spectra]

for those who are interested, some folks "modded" the player so that it can now play files from an external fat32 usb-hdd/stick/device.

http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showpost.php?p=867701&postcount=608
http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showpost.php?p=867747&postcount=618

no firmwareupdate required for this, but you will lose of warranty.

[SeeMoreDigital]

That is "sooooos" cool :D

Unfortunately you have to be a member of the dvdboard.de forum to view the pictures :(

By chance has anybody tried hacking the player so it can connect to a ethernet network - either directly or via an NSLU2 or similar device?


Cheers

[spectra]

That is "sooooos" cool :D

Unfortunately you have to be a member of the dvdboard.de forum to view the pictures :(


heard of bugmenot.com before ?


By chance has anybody tried hacking the player so it can connect to a ethernet network - either directly or via an NSLU2 or similar device?

the vadis 888 specs say: "and enables Ethernet connectivity with the MaestroLink chip". i don't think this chip (whatever it does) is put on this board. well and i can't say anything about that NSLU2-device (but itsn't this thing working the other way round) ? you would need a usb-2-ethernet adapter (which would have to browse smb shares and display them as fat32-hdd to the player). is that avail. somewhere ?

[thegeby]

OK, I got a complete brain-freeze and decided to drive to Germany and pickup one of these babies (Cross the Belgo-German border direction Aachen, first exit, Aldi on the left). Quite impressed so far.

Nero Digital ASP works well, but only in standard profile. By patching the header, Cinema profile plays, but only in 2.0 AAC. 5.1 is not supported. ND subtitles are clear and under the picture frame on a 4:3 TV. I cannot confirm Whether other subtitles cover the picture as stated elsewhere.

Divx/Xvid work fine. I do not have any subtitled Xvid recordings, so can't pronounce on quality. Fairly easy navigation on screen. All MP4 needs an appreciable time to load but work well afterwards.

MP3 and AAC no problem. Rumour has it it also supports DVD audio, but who cares?

Normal DVDs play well, the built-in DD 5.1 decoder pumps to all six speakers.

VGA connection worked without a hitch, and really showed how crummy the computer LCD was compared to a CRT (not really a surprise for a Proview.)

In fact, I disconnected my Shuttle HTPC in favour of this, but I will keep it close at hand before I make up my mind..

[SeeMoreDigital]

Nice one....

My wife has family in that region of Germany. Good to know their Aldi store is up-to scratch :)


Cheers

[thegeby]

Nice one....

My wife has family in that region of Germany. Good to know their Aldi store is up-to scratch :)


Cheers

"their Aldi Store":eek: . You can't help stumbling over them once you are in (southern) Germany. I drove there with a list of 8 stores within a 5 km range. Aldi is definitely not high-end. It looks like a Chinatown discounter, but they have the goods:)

Thegeby

PS. Didn't you make a torture CD for testing capabilities. If I can download it, I could give it a try...

[SeeMoreDigital]

PS. Didn't you make a torture CD for testing capabilities. If I can download it, I could give it a try...Nope not me... I think you might be thinking of Bonds test disc.

Over the years I've generated various test files to test specific player features, such as: -
Aspect Ratio Signalling,
B-VOP's with packed bit-stream,
B-VOP's without packed bit-stream,
MPEG-4 video with MP3 audio in MP4,
3-warp-point GMC with mattes,
3-warp-point GMC without mattes, etc, etc

....But no test disc ;)

[thegeby]

You're right. My bad...

[spectra]

heise.de (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/72939) posts that this player is really one of the first certified XviD (!!) players:

[thegeby]

I decided to do the USB hack described on the German board and can confirm it works very well. I have attached an external hard drive, a memory stick and even my iPod and all files were available. On the iPod of course only the database, not the individual songs.

[spectra]

Firmware 2.0 is out with a lot of fixes

most notable is the correct placement of external subtitles and they have a dark background now. And the Audio-CD bug is fixed that caused the next track to be played 0,5sec at trackchange.

http://www.dv-rec.de/download/firmware/player/tevion/8000/tevion8000_v2.0.zip
http://www.dv-rec.de/download/firmware/player/index.shtml

[thegeby]

Firmware upgrade worked and fixed the annoying problem of a centrally placed external subtitle, Now movies on a cd are also autorun.

[flipside]

Hi for those of you that have tried the usb hack or can read the german boards has anyone got a external 2.5" HDD enclosure to work ?

[thegeby]

Well, a 3.5" worked, so I would guess you're OK:D

I did the power supply hack, as well, bridging the two contacts as shown in the "German pictures". It was possible to fit a connector from a USB bracket (after some judicious paring of the plastic) above the VGA connector in the back allowing for external access. I have not tried to connect both a USB stick and a VGA monitor simultaneously, but would imagine that is could be tight.

So far I have watched films from a Secure Digital card, a USB stick and from an external hard drive. It worked.

[flipside]

Hi thanks for the prompt reply, im not actually using one of these boxes i have a LG but it has the same chipset on board and a usb port on the front. Ive tried my mp3 (20gb fat32 Iriver H120) player that appears as a HDD in windows but it isnt recognised (though the ipod is but that cant be read) so im trying to find if its a implementaion issue down to LG or if theres some special set of encloure chipset/drive/formatting you need to get this to work, as there is with the Philips 5690 (different DVD chipset i know).

What enclosure do you use ?

[thegeby]

It is just a cheapo Q-tek USB-to-IDE. You could check if your USB port delivers voltage on the 5V contact. That was an issue on the Tevion.

[flipside]

The port on the DVD player doesnt give enough power to run a HDD based setup though its fine for a flash device. Im just a bit confused why the ipod appears but my h210 deosnt the only difference i can see is that the ipod is shown as removeable storage in windows whilst the h120 is a HDD device ?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Sadly...

These players have not made it over to the UK yet - AFAIK :(

[flipside]

Hey SMD who are you responding to ? If its me yes they have you can get them as i did from currys and pixmania though i must admit i ahd to get the man at currys to search his warehouse for mine as they had been delivered that afternoon :) if its about teh tevion yes your right i havent sen them in either teh tevion or medion form .

[Fugdefino]

Just bought a Samsung HD860 (Vaddis 888) Tested some 3-warp-point GMC samples. Same problem I had with my old Xoro 4000 player though. Although it plays back ok to an extent, the picture tends to breaks up quite often.

[flipside]

Thanks , they played back fine on the LG (did you use the samples form SMD's site ?) , also i thought the 860 was teh 882 version of the chipset not sure what teh difference is though.

[Fugdefino]

did you use the samples form SMD's site?

Nope, link on first page seems to be dead. Couldn't find any 3 warp samples on his site either. Found a sample elsewhere though, which plays back but with noticable glitches in a couple of scenes.

[flipside]

cool can you post a link id like to give them a try , heres the post that links to some 3 point samples he gave me http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=841629#post841629

[Fugdefino]

There you go:

http://ez-files.net/download.php?file=4dfabc9f

[oddball]

This player is back up for sale in UK Aldi for £39.99 on the 7th of september.

Review in German here http://www.dv-rec.de/test/player2006/Tevion/8000/8000.html

[SeeMoreDigital]

Thanks for the heads up....

I'll be at a store near me next Thursday then ;)

[~bT~]

Definately heading to my local Aldi on the 7th! I have a Cyberhome 401 but it has issues sometimes playing certain files... Hope this proves a winner...

[NEOgeo]

does this play x264/avc ? (i wish)

does it display xvid that are hdtv resolutions .. mainly 720p ? also the same with transport sreams , will it play high res ts files ? mainly 720p but some 1080i .


i need to know this as my parents are buyign the 40" 1366x768 LCD from aldi next thursday when this is on offer, and i stock a whole lot of hdtv res content on my home pc but its way too far to just cable it thru to were the new lc tv is gonna be , and i seen this HDMI dvd player and my eyes lit up, if this can actually play high res ts and xvid, and not JUST upconvert lower ones, then this is a dream come tru for me !!

i dont like high res xvid too much tho, x264/avc just jumps up and down over xvid in quality , so mainly i wanna know if it could play these high res transport streams ?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi NEOgeo,

Sorry to disappoint you... The Tevion is fitted with an Zoran Vaddis 888 chip-set which is capable of decoding std-def MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 Part2 (SP/ASP) sources only.

It can however, up-scale std-def images to pseudo hi-def looking images.


Cheers

[NEOgeo]

thanks for the reply, looks like i have to think of another way of getting my hdtv content from my pc to the hdtv in the other room >:[ im actually thinking of just getting REALLY long hdmi cables :'[

[oddball]

Just got mine. Applied updated tweaked firmware and set to region free with remote hack. Plays most stuff. But not all. Unable to play anything with 3 warp point.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Just got mine. Applied updated tweaked firmware and set to region free with remote hack. Plays most stuff. But not all. Unable to play anything with 3 warp point.Could you PM me with more details regarding the afore mentioned please?


Cheers

[~bT~]

Out today!

http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/

Can anybody do a tutorial for the USB connected HD hack please?

[thegeby]

Out today!

http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/

Can anybody do a tutorial for the USB connected HD hack please?

Take lid off. Facing the front of the player The USB connection is on the right of the right PCB. It is marked.
solderwires form USB socket as in picture. The black wire on the left is just a bridge. I actually soldered the connectors together instead of using a wire. There is just enough space on top of the VGA connector to fit a USB socket. I got mine from a PC bracket.

http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tevion2eu1.jpg

The above link is identical to the attachment, which some seem to have difficulty with. I can't delete the attachment for some reason.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Take lid off. Facing the front of the player The USB connection is on the right of the right PCB. It is marked.
solderwires form USB socket as in picture. The black wire on the left is just a bridge. I actually soldered the connectors together instead of using a wire. There is just enough space on top of the VGA connector to fit a USB socket. I got mine from a PC bracket.Sadly, "Attachments Pending Approval" in this section of the forum can be quite erratic... Can you use an external image hoster please?

EDIT: Forgot to say... I got mine too. Surprisingly DVD-Audio disc's sound okay via the 6Ch analogue outputs...

Anybody know how to find out which firmware version is installed?


Cheers

[~bT~]

Just got mine 2 hours ago. Had to drive 23 miles to pick it up as my local sold out!

PS> the link isnt working for me above for the hack.