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jinjin_jp
19th April 2006, 14:26
ISO output by NeroRecode 2.2.6.17 seems to have the problem.
Even though Single-Layer size, it divides the cell and adds layer-break like below.

original
[Cell 35] [V/C Id: 28/ 1] : time: 00:01:06.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:00.25] [Frames: 39625] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 36] [V/C Id: 29/ 1] : time: 00:00:34.12 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:35.07] [Frames: 40657] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 37] [V/C Id: 29/ 2] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:01.03 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:36.10] [Frames: 40690] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/ no/ no]
[Cell 38] [V/C Id: 30/ 1] : time: 00:00:59.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:36.00] [Frames: 42480] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 39] [V/C Id: 31/ 1] : time: 00:04:17.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:27:53.10] [Frames: 50200] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]

output(1): when checking "remove layer-break", or manually remove layer-break previously.
[Cell 35] [V/C Id: 28/ 1] : time: 00:01:06.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:00.25] [Frames: 39625] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 36] [V/C Id: 29/ 1] : time: 00:00:16.27 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:17.22] [Frames: 40132] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 37] [V/C Id: 29/ 2] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:17.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:35.07] [Frames: 40657] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 38] [V/C Id: 29/ 3] : time: 00:00:01.03 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:36.10] [Frames: 40690] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
[Cell 39] [V/C Id: 30/ 1] : time: 00:00:59.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:36.00] [Frames: 42480] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 40] [V/C Id: 31/ 1] : time: 00:04:17.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:27:53.10] [Frames: 50200] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]

output(2): when remaining original layer-break and not checking "remove layer-break".
[Cell 35] [V/C Id: 28/ 1] : time: 00:01:06.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:00.25] [Frames: 39625] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 36] [V/C Id: 29/ 1] : time: 00:00:16.27 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:17.22] [Frames: 40132] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 37] [V/C Id: 29/ 2] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:17.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:35.07] [Frames: 40657] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 38] [V/C Id: 29/ 3] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:01.03 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:36.10] [Frames: 40690] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/ no/ no]
[Cell 39] [V/C Id: 30/ 1] : time: 00:00:59.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:36.00] [Frames: 42480] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
[Cell 40] [V/C Id: 31/ 1] : time: 00:04:17.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:27:53.10] [Frames: 50200] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]

About LBA of layer-break,
log of NeroRecode is
#107 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1947
Layerbreak-point set at LBA: 1147583
This value agrees with above cell's layer-break.

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And LBA of files seems to have the problem.
1)some files are overlapping
2)Error is when ripping IFO and BUP of VTS which has layer-break.
3)creat gaps between files.(It's not the problem itself)
Below is log of DVDDecrypter ripping.

I 06:47:03 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 592 - 604) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:03 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB... (LBA: 608 - 146529) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:29 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 146544 - 146556) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:30 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 146560 - 146572) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:30 Copying VTS_01_0.VOB... (LBA: 146576 - 146986) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:30 Copying VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 146987 - 147283) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:30 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 147284 - 147296) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:31 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO... (LBA: 147296 - 147307) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:31 Copying VTS_02_0.VOB... (LBA: 147312 - 147437) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:31 Copying VTS_02_1.VOB... (LBA: 147438 - 147912) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:31 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP... (LBA: 147913 - 147924) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:32 Copying VTS_03_0.IFO... (LBA: 147936 - 147948) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:32 Copying VTS_03_0.VOB... (LBA: 147952 - 148077) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:32 Copying VTS_03_1.VOB... (LBA: 148078 - 151038) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:34 Copying VTS_03_0.BUP... (LBA: 151039 - 151051) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:34 Copying VTS_04_0.IFO... (LBA: 151056 - 151068) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:34 Copying VTS_04_0.VOB... (LBA: 151072 - 151197) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:34 Copying VTS_04_1.VOB... (LBA: 151198 - 159909) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:37 Copying VTS_04_0.BUP... (LBA: 159910 - 159922) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:37 Copying VTS_05_0.IFO... (LBA: 159936 - 159948) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:37 Copying VTS_05_0.VOB... (LBA: 159952 - 160077) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:38 Copying VTS_05_1.VOB... (LBA: 160078 - 161495) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:38 Copying VTS_05_0.BUP... (LBA: 161496 - 161508) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:39 Copying VTS_06_0.IFO... (LBA: 161520 - 161537) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:39 Copying VTS_06_0.VOB... (LBA: 161536 - 161649) - KEY: N/A
I 06:47:39 Copying VTS_06_1.VOB... (LBA: 161650 - 323370) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:09 Copying VTS_06_0.BUP... (LBA: 323371 - 323388) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:09 Copying VTS_07_0.IFO... (LBA: 323392 - 323412) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:09 Copying VTS_07_0.VOB... (LBA: 323424 - 341653) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:13 Copying VTS_07_1.VOB... (LBA: 341654 - 343604) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:14 Copying VTS_07_0.BUP... (LBA: 343605 - 343625) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:14 Copying VTS_08_0.IFO... (LBA: 343632 - 343644) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:14 Copying VTS_08_0.VOB... (LBA: 343648 - 343761) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:14 Copying VTS_08_1.VOB... (LBA: 343762 - 355209) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:17 Copying VTS_08_0.BUP... (LBA: 355210 - 355222) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:17 Copying VTS_09_0.IFO... (LBA: 355232 - 355249) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:17 Copying VTS_09_0.VOB... (LBA: 355248 - 355373) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:17 Copying VTS_09_1.VOB... (LBA: 355374 - 530839) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:39 Copying VTS_09_0.BUP... (LBA: 530840 - 530857) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:40 Copying VTS_10_0.IFO... (LBA: 530864 - 530879) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:40 Copying VTS_10_0.VOB... (LBA: 530880 - 530884) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:40 Copying VTS_10_1.VOB... (LBA: 530885 - 535915) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:41 Copying VTS_10_0.BUP... (LBA: 535916 - 535931) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:41 Copying VTS_11_0.IFO... (LBA: 535936 - 535947) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:42 Copying VTS_11_0.VOB... (LBA: 535952 - 535955) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:42 Copying VTS_11_1.VOB... (LBA: 535956 - 536184) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:42 Copying VTS_11_0.BUP... (LBA: 536185 - 536196) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:42 Copying VTS_12_0.IFO... (LBA: 536208 - 536219) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:43 Copying VTS_12_0.VOB... (LBA: 536224 - 536227) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:43 Copying VTS_12_1.VOB... (LBA: 536228 - 563340) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:47 Copying VTS_12_0.BUP... (LBA: 563341 - 563352) - KEY: N/A
I 06:48:47 Copying VTS_13_0.IFO... (LBA: 563360 - 563415) - KEY: N/A
W 06:48:47 On-the-fly IFO/BUP file patching failed!
W 06:48:47 File Name: VTS_13_0.IFO
W 06:48:47 Size: 114,688 bytes
W 06:48:48 Reason: PatchIFO failed.
I 06:48:54 Copying VTS_13_0.VOB... (LBA: 563424 - 665690) - KEY: N/A
I 06:49:07 Copying VTS_13_1.VOB... (LBA: 665691 - 1189977) - KEY: N/A
I 06:50:45 Copying VTS_13_2.VOB... (LBA: 1189966 - 1714252) - KEY: N/A
I 06:51:52 Copying VTS_13_3.VOB... (LBA: 1714253 - 2238539) - KEY: N/A
I 06:52:56 Copying VTS_13_4.VOB... (LBA: 2238540 - 2283715) - KEY: N/A
I 06:53:03 Copying VTS_13_0.BUP... (LBA: 2283716 - 2283771) - KEY: N/A
W 06:53:03 On-the-fly IFO/BUP file patching failed!
W 06:53:03 File Name: VTS_13_0.BUP
W 06:53:03 Size: 114,688 bytes
W 06:53:03 Reason: PatchIFO failed.
I 06:53:10 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:07

Is these a bug? or my wrong method?
Sorry if it is a known bug.

setarip_old
19th April 2006, 18:34
Hi!

1) What is the Title and Region of the DVD?

2) Are you ripping a commercial DVD and using DVD43 or AnyDVD at the same time with DVD Decrypter? - or is it an unprotected burned DVD?

jinjin_jp
19th April 2006, 22:34
1)LION LING 3, Region_1(Japan).

2)First, ripping File-Mode by DVDDecrypter 3.5.4.0.(protected DVD)
Next, compress and output ISO by NeroRecode 2.2.6.17.
Next, mount this ISO by DaemonTools.
Next, ripping File-Mode by DVDDecrypter 3.5.4.0.(unprotected DVD,but not burned)

By the way,
this problem is found and reported a week before at first in JAPAN, and several people tested and confirmed the same problem,too.
I don't usually use ISO-output but HardDisc-output,so I've never noticed, and I tested and confirmed the same problem,too.

Thanks.

setarip_old
19th April 2006, 23:20
Would you please be good enough to post the initial DVD Decrypter rip of the copy protected DVD?

BTW Am I correct in presuming you mean "Lion King 3"?

feedback
20th April 2006, 05:01
Is these a bug? or my wrong method?
Sorry if it is a known bug.
It is a bug that Nero is not aware of or they apparently don't care about. The NRG (their version of ISO) output did work properly several versions ago. However, like you my 2.2.6.17 version of Recode does not work properly in the NRG output (Has the Layer Break problem). BTW, if I use Recode, I output to a HD folder then use CloneDVD2 in "write to existing data " mode to create an ISO so I can then burn with ImgBurn.
Otherwise, if minimal transcoding is needed I use Shrink.
When I do need to reduce the size of my backup I then use my preferred app. "DVD Rebuilder Pro".

There is another thread on the Recode bug over at Digital Digest Located Here. (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=62864)

Regards,:)

jinjin_jp
20th April 2006, 05:02
BTW Am I correct in presuming you mean "Lion King 3"?
Sorry, I misspelled. "LIon King 3" is correct.

Would you please be good enough to post the initial DVD Decrypter rip of the copy protected DVD?
Do you mean "initial DVD" is protected?
=>Yes.
Or do you mean did I failed to rip?
=>I think I didn't failed. It's my usual method.
And this problem is confirmed by other people in JAPAN.

feedback
20th April 2006, 05:39
There are some other threads on the subject of the Recode Layer Break bug but I can't find them. But, as you indicated there are others in Japan that have this problem as well. So, it is not an isolated event.
Besides, I have had this problem as well as those in the link I posted, among many others.

The LB problem is following Recode so the problem must be with Recode.

Edit:We are talking about backups to single layer DVD-5 media...Not Dual Layer.
If you must use Recode then use the method I posted earlier about using CloneDVD2 to create an Iso which can then be burned with ImgBurn.
Folder2ISO is another app. to use to build the ISO.

setarip_old
20th April 2006, 09:17
Would you please be good enough to post the initial DVD Decrypter rip of the copy protected DVD?
Do you mean "initial DVD" is protected?
=>Yes.I know that the original DVD is copy protected. I'm asking you to be good enough to please post the DVD Decrypter log of your rip of the original, copy protected DVD...

jinjin_jp
20th April 2006, 14:48
@feedback
Thanks for the information. I understand.
Do you know from what version this problem started, or at least what version has no problem?

@setarip_old
I think it may be no need, below is rip of original corresponding to above first post.
There is no problem.

I 22:31:18 Extracting Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2710769)
I 22:31:18 Found IFO File: VIDEO_TS.IFO - (LBA: 330 - 342)
I 22:31:18 Found VOB File: VIDEO_TS.VOB - (LBA: 343 - 173890) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:06 Found BUP File: VIDEO_TS.BUP - (LBA: 173891 - 173903)
I 22:32:06 Found IFO File: VTS_01_0.IFO - (LBA: 173904 - 173912)
I 22:32:06 Found VOB File: VTS_01_0.VOB - (LBA: 173913 - 174518) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:06 Found VOB File: VTS_01_1.VOB - (LBA: 174519 - 174937) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:06 Found BUP File: VTS_01_0.BUP - (LBA: 174938 - 174946)
I 22:32:06 Found IFO File: VTS_02_0.IFO - (LBA: 174947 - 174954)
I 22:32:06 Found VOB File: VTS_02_0.VOB - (LBA: 174955 - 175141) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:06 Found VOB File: VTS_02_1.VOB - (LBA: 175142 - 175677) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:06 Found BUP File: VTS_02_0.BUP - (LBA: 175678 - 175685)
I 22:32:06 Found IFO File: VTS_03_0.IFO - (LBA: 175686 - 175694)
I 22:32:06 Found VOB File: VTS_03_0.VOB - (LBA: 175695 - 175881) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:06 Found VOB File: VTS_03_1.VOB - (LBA: 175882 - 179729) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:07 Found BUP File: VTS_03_0.BUP - (LBA: 179730 - 179738)
I 22:32:07 Found IFO File: VTS_04_0.IFO - (LBA: 179739 - 179747)
I 22:32:07 Found VOB File: VTS_04_0.VOB - (LBA: 179748 - 179934) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:07 Found VOB File: VTS_04_1.VOB - (LBA: 179935 - 190360) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:10 Found BUP File: VTS_04_0.BUP - (LBA: 190361 - 190369)
I 22:32:10 Found IFO File: VTS_05_0.IFO - (LBA: 190370 - 190378)
I 22:32:10 Found VOB File: VTS_05_0.VOB - (LBA: 190379 - 190565) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:10 Found VOB File: VTS_05_1.VOB - (LBA: 190566 - 192045) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:10 Found BUP File: VTS_05_0.BUP - (LBA: 192046 - 192054)
I 22:32:10 Found IFO File: VTS_06_0.IFO - (LBA: 192055 - 192068)
I 22:32:11 Found VOB File: VTS_06_0.VOB - (LBA: 192069 - 192255) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:11 Found VOB File: VTS_06_1.VOB - (LBA: 192256 - 379969) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:54 Found BUP File: VTS_06_0.BUP - (LBA: 379970 - 379983)
I 22:32:54 Found IFO File: VTS_07_0.IFO - (LBA: 379984 - 380000)
I 22:32:54 Found VOB File: VTS_07_0.VOB - (LBA: 380001 - 398325) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:58 Found VOB File: VTS_07_1.VOB - (LBA: 398326 - 400467) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:58 Found BUP File: VTS_07_0.BUP - (LBA: 400468 - 400484)
I 22:32:58 Found IFO File: VTS_08_0.IFO - (LBA: 400485 - 400493)
I 22:32:58 Found VOB File: VTS_08_0.VOB - (LBA: 400494 - 400680) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:32:58 Found VOB File: VTS_08_1.VOB - (LBA: 400681 - 413962) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:33:01 Found BUP File: VTS_08_0.BUP - (LBA: 413963 - 413971)
I 22:33:01 Found IFO File: VTS_09_0.IFO - (LBA: 413972 - 413985)
I 22:33:01 Found VOB File: VTS_09_0.VOB - (LBA: 413986 - 414172) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:33:01 Found VOB File: VTS_09_1.VOB - (LBA: 414173 - 622416) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:33:43 Found BUP File: VTS_09_0.BUP - (LBA: 622417 - 622430)
I 22:33:43 Found IFO File: VTS_10_0.IFO - (LBA: 622431 - 622442)
I 22:33:43 Found VOB File: VTS_10_0.VOB - (LBA: 622443 - 622447) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:33:43 Found VOB File: VTS_10_1.VOB - (LBA: 622448 - 628037) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:33:44 Found BUP File: VTS_10_0.BUP - (LBA: 628038 - 628049)
I 22:33:44 Found IFO File: VTS_11_0.IFO - (LBA: 628050 - 628057)
I 22:33:44 Found VOB File: VTS_11_0.VOB - (LBA: 628058 - 628061) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:33:44 Found VOB File: VTS_11_1.VOB - (LBA: 628062 - 628378) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:33:44 Found BUP File: VTS_11_0.BUP - (LBA: 628379 - 628386)
I 22:33:44 Found IFO File: VTS_12_0.IFO - (LBA: 628387 - 628394)
I 22:33:44 Found VOB File: VTS_12_0.VOB - (LBA: 628395 - 628398) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:33:44 Found VOB File: VTS_12_1.VOB - (LBA: 628399 - 662776) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:33:51 Found BUP File: VTS_12_0.BUP - (LBA: 662777 - 662784)
I 22:33:51 Found IFO File: VTS_13_0.IFO - (LBA: 662785 - 662836)
I 22:33:51 Found VOB File: VTS_13_0.VOB - (LBA: 662837 - 788176) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:34:13 Found VOB File: VTS_13_1.VOB - (LBA: 788177 - 1312436) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:35:38 Found VOB File: VTS_13_2.VOB - (LBA: 1312437 - 1836676) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:37:00 Found VOB File: VTS_13_3.VOB - (LBA: 1836677 - 2360772) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:38:38 Found VOB File: VTS_13_4.VOB - (LBA: 2360773 - 2710716) - KEY: ** ** ** ** **
I 22:40:04 Found BUP File: VTS_13_0.BUP - (LBA: 2710717 - 2710768)

feedback
20th April 2006, 16:17
Do you know from what version this problem started, or at least what version has no problem?

No, I don't know for certain what version is without the bug.

However, one might guess that it started with that first version of Recode that supported DL (Dual layer) disks.

Regards,:)

setarip_old
20th April 2006, 20:31
@jinjin_jp

I'd rather not guess at why you've chosen to edit the log to exclude the beginning information and replace the key information with asterisks, so I'll just wish you luck in resolving your dilemma ;>}

One could now speculate that your original source material is the cause of your problem...

jinjin_jp
20th April 2006, 22:44
@feedback, setatip_old
Thanks for very much. I satisfied to be able to confirmed it is also known bug in other country.